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On the SwimSwam Podcast dive deeper into the sport you love with insider conversations about swimming. Hosted by Coleman Hodges and Gold Medal Mel Stewart, SwimSwam welcomes both the biggest names in swimming that you already know, and rising stars that you need to get to know, as we break down the past, present, and future of aquatic sports.
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There’s a certain quiet confidence that comes from longevity. You don’t need to thump your chest when the résumé does the talking. This GMM podcast brings together Thad Schultz, one of the most experienced coaches in swimming, and Erkhes Enkhtur, a rising international talent rewriting Mongolian swimming history books from the lanes of SPIRE Academy.
Recently, at the Katie Ledecky Invite, a swim meet hosted by Nation's Capital Swim Club and named for their most notable alumna, history was made. Katie Ledecky herself participated in the last night of competition, swimming in the 1,650 freestyle. The 14x Olympic medalist wowed her hometown crowd as she threw down a monstrous 14:59.62, breaking her own American and US Open records in the event and making her the first woman in history to dip under the 15-minute barrier. This swim not only rippled across the entire current swimming landscape, but it will undoubtedly inspire swimmers for years to come. SwimSwam spoke with two young girls, Milly Birch and Emma Stein, who were at the venue during this once-in-a-lifetime experience. Milly, 14, swam in the lane next to Katie during the 1,650 while Emma, 11, was on deck watching with her friends. Listen to how Katie Ledecky is not only breaking down barriers for herself, but showing many more that they can do the same.
Kyle Sockwell has long branded himself as the “CEO of Fun,” but anyone who has worked with him behind the scenes knows that label only tells half the story. Sockwell, now the COO of the newly announced College Swimming League (CSL), has built a reputation in aquatic sports for something that’s surprisingly rare in this industry: clarity. Behind the scenes, he’s direct about what he knows and what he doesn’t. Clear about what’s possible and what isn’t. And refreshingly uninterested in spin or “gotcha” communication. That matters when the topic is a massive structural shifts in college swimming. The CSL announcement dropped December 9th and immediately became one of the most discussed developments in our sport. The league named former International Swimming League (ISL) Toronto Titans GM Rob Kent as CEO, with Sockwell operating alongside him as COO. In this GMM podcast, we briefly cover Kyle's start and evolution in sports media, and then we dig into the details surrounding CSL
Head Coach Matt Bowe is in his 3rd year at Michigan, and the results are starting to show. Recently, at the CSCAA Dual Meet Tournament, the UM women placed 2nd and the men were 3rd (out of 4 teams), both breaking school records. Both teams not only won very close matchups that came down to the last relay (women vs Tennessee and men vs Virginia), but the women also handed the Virginia women a rare loss in the 200 medley relay. Bowe came on the SwimSwam podcast to discuss how he has been building culture since arriving in Ann Arbor and what navigating the NCAA landscape has looked like in a post-House settlement world.
SwimSwam's Editor-in-Chief, Braden Keith, sat down with the new CEO of USA Swimming, Kevin Ring, for a candid conversation. Keith asked Ring 10 hard questions about the state of USA Swimming and what he will do to address those issues. Ring answered honestly and with some breaking news peppered in. This includes raising APA rates (athlete salaries) for the first time in over a decade and holding an SCM meet to help select rosters for SCM World Championships.
Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we are previewing the US Open, Short Course European Championships, and the Minnesota Invite.
As a Freshman at Texas, Nate Germonprez was training freestyle and backstroke, focusing on IM but also swimming on the 800 free relay. Flash forward year and a half later, and Germonprez is the #4 performer in history in the 100 breast, only .2 off the NCAA and US Open records. Listen to the junior at Texas as he explains what has changed about his training since the arrival of Bob Bowman and how he has capitalized on his breaststroke ability.
Will Modglin made a statement last weekend at the Texas Hall of Fame Invite. In his first swim, the 50 back leading off the 200 medley relay, he swam 20.00, the fastest 50y back in history. He went onto swim a 43.26 in the 100 back, breaking the American record and coming within .06 of his teammate, Hubi Kos's, NCAA record. Modglin also swam a 50.91 100 Breast, one of four loghorns who broke the 51-second barrier in the event. The funny thing about that: Modglin doesn't train breaststroke. At all. The WUG's gold medalist from this summer gets into this and more in today's episode.
Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss Rylee Erisman reclassifying to 2026 and going to Cal, Audrey Derivaux to Texas, and recap the first week of Mid-Season Meet pandamonium.
Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we preview the major Mid-Season Meets coming up this week in the NCAA.
Entering his 3rd season with the California Golden Bears, Noah Yanchulis has already experienced many highs of coaching a college team. He's been a part of a conference champion team, chased an NCAA team title, and been a part of a Team USA coaching staff. We spoke with Yanchulis today about his time with the bears and how he's developed his system for coaching the 400 IM/distance groups, which now has up to 24 athletes on any given day, with the massive addition of 20 freshmen (men and women) this fall. This past summer, after Cal put 5 athletes on the world championship roster, Yanchulis was named an assistant coach on Team USA. He discusses the lessons learned coaching overseas in Thailand and Singapore as he helped guide the Red, White, and Blue through sickness during the championships.
Ryan Coughenour has had a full journey leading into his senior year of high school. His grandfather was an Oklahoma state champion in the 1940s and went on to swim at Kansas State University (when they had a swim program) as well as compete at the US Olympic Trials in the 1950s. He has supported Ryan through his swimming career and encouraged him to pursue it in college. During the pandemic, when Ryan was in middle school and just starting to swim seriously, he started buying sneakers online and re-selling them for profit. Well, not for profit at first. But eventually, he learned how to make a profit and ended up making quite an income. Coughenour even convinced his coach to let him out in the middle of practice one day in order to secure a pair of valuable shoes, which he ended up re-selling for a profit of $1,100. Bow in his senior year, Ryan has committed to swim at Florida State. He's coming off a summer that saw him rapidly improve in LCM, going best times nearly every time he dove in the pool and capping his season at Summer JRs. Learning to be a leader on his high school and club team, the breaststroke specialist has a lot to look forward to.
Today we have swimming superstar Summer McIntosh. She talked a little over an hour and nothing was off-limits. Before we hit record, she said, “Go for it. I’m ready to discuss anything.” We caught up during her three-week altitude block at the U.S. Olympic Training Center, where she’s working under new coach, Bob Bowman. And, of course, she recently announced her global partnership with Arena. (see link below). This podcast is loaded. Summer provides insight and backstory across a lot of topics. She certainly breaks through the noise of the internet, allowing us  us peek into the mind of the most dominant female swimmer on the planet in her run-up to LA2028.
We sit down with Texas A&M Director of Swimming and Diving Blaire Anderson, a coaching talent to watch in the coming years as she develops the Aggies in the new era. In just her first year running the combined Aggie program, Anderson has already left a mark, guiding the men’s team to a 5th-place finish at the 2026 SEC Championships and 12th at NCAA Championships, while the women’s squad placed 8th at SECs and 25th at the NCAA Championships.
Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss phenomenal age group swimming from China's Yu Zidi and USA's Luka Mijatovic and the new Pro Swim Series format.
We’re diving into the deep end of storytelling with Ben Brostoff, author of Trials: A Novel of Olympic Swimming Dreams and Redemption. It’s a swimming novel for swimmers written by one. Trials follows three swimmers — Hunter Banks, Connor Mahoney, and Miles Green — whose lives are intertwined by one defining moment: the 2004 Olympic Trials, where all three break the world record in the 400 IM. What follows is a two-decade journey through triumph and heartbreak, doping scandals, supersuits, world records, marriage, loss, and the relentless chase of a dream that refuses to die.
This GMM podcast with Caeleb Dressel is wild. Ninety minutes of raw honesty, humor, and pure fun. Dressel details how he departed the University of Florida pro group on great terms. He and coach Anthony Nesty are clearly very close. Dressel explains his new training team, headed by Steve Jungbluth at Sporting Jax Aquatic Club, with heavy strength support from Sean Kao at Aquatic Sports Performance.
On Friday, the #1 ranked recruit in the High School class of 2027, Luka MIjatovic, announced his commitment to the University of Texas. In this podcast, we discuss his decision to go train with Bob Bowman, his experience at World Championships, and training for mid-distance freestyle.
Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the final World Cup stop in Toronto plus look at the college swimming action from over the weekend.
Today on the GMM Podcast, we have Matt Hurst, head coach of Mercersburg Academy, one of the most storied high school programs in swimming. Mercersburg isn’t just another prep powerhouse. This Pennsylvania boarding school has produced 32 Olympians, who’ve earned 11 Olympic medals, including five golds, representing the United States and 12 other nations. Beyond the Games, Mercersburg swimmers have collected hundreds of High School All-American honors, captured nine National High School team titles, and won more than 20 Eastern Interscholastic Swimming and Diving Championships. But this conversation isn’t just about the past. It’s about the choices coaches make, the culture they build, and how swimming itself is evolving. Before taking over at Mercersburg, Hurst was the Associate Head Coach at Penn State. With that type of position, you might assume Matt’s next step would be a Division I head coaching job. Instead, he took a sharp turn choosing Mercersburg, and choosing to build a legacy in prep swimming rather than chase the collegiate grind. We talk about that decision, what motivated it, and how Mercersburg’s unique campus environment shapes athletes differently. Hurst digs into the academic-athletic balance of a prep school model, where swimmers don’t just train to win races but to understand the “why” behind excellence.
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