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The Thinking Voice podcast by Dr Jenevora Williams, Robert Sussuma and Stephen King is all about exploring the human voice through open conversation. The format of the podcast is split in to two types of episode; INTERVIEWS and CONVERSATIONS.The Interviews released will follow a standard interview format, with one host interviewing a special guest. The topic of conversation begins with how the guest journeyed into the world of Vocal Health, and often explores a more philosophical and idealistic avenue.The Conversations are played out in real time, and are unplanned musings between Dr Jenevora Williams, Stephen King and Robert Sussuma. These include phenomenological, existential, anatomic, pedagogic and experiential principles. Serious philosophy with some light-hearted interplay.The subject for these conversations is an unplanned topic, one of several that have been pre-set into a randomiser. In listening in, you will be steered down all kinds of cobbled conversational streets between the three hosts, unpicking relevant research or anecdotal concepts and “practice-based evidence”.
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In this episode of The Thinking Voice Podcast, hosts Robert Sussuma, Stephen King, and Dr. Jenevora Williams dive into the world of voice pedagogy and explore the concept of running courses in groups. The trio starts by discussing Berne’s Group Theory, which is a theoretical framework for understanding human relationships and communication patterns in groups. They delve into the benefits of group learning, including the creation of a supportive community and the opportunity to learn from othe...
In this episode, we dive into the world of vocal pedagogy and explore the latest advancements and our thoughts around timeless techniques. In this episode, our three experts in the field – Robert Sussuma, Dr. Jenevora Williams, and Stephen King engage in a lively discussion on the topic of ‘The Current Advances vs. Age Old Shiz.’ Are we trapped in trying to reinvent the wheel in vocal training, or are there still new and innovative things to be discovered? Join us as we explore this tho...
Knowing or Not Knowing?

Knowing or Not Knowing?

2023-02-2201:00:08

3 years or 3 sessions?

3 years or 3 sessions?

2023-02-1555:08

3 Years or 3 sessions? This topic sees our hosts explore what value we might give from short to long term work with a client. Stephen takes us through the Person Centred core conditions and a theory he has been thinking about in regards to voice issues. Jenevora argues in favour of the boundaries with an agreed time limit, Robert is in for the long haul with wanting to start a slow learning movement.
We’re back! Robert, Stephen and Jenevora got a little sidetracked in the opening episode to season 3… so much so that they forgot to do the thing that they were there to do! Still, a rather entertaining episode around relationships emerged from our three vocal philosophers addressing all sorts of facets to 1-2-1 sessions, group work and rehearsals/performance.
The Sam Slattery Interview

The Sam Slattery Interview

2022-04-0601:15:05

George Webster is a 21-year-old TV presenter, actor and dancer from Leeds. In September 2021 it was announced that he would become the first CBeebies presenter with Down’s Syndrome. Our very own Martha celebrates World Down's Syndrome day with George, discussing how he is helping to give a voice to people with Down's Syndrome.
How possible is it to actually change?
In this interview, Stephen King interviews Dr Brian Broom, immunologist and psychotherapist about his work seeing patients not as parcels to be passed around, but whole people to be seen. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-41239-5_14
If everything is connected and we are each a biopsychosocial unity, does it always have to be about voice, to be about voice?
Chris Cullen, mindfulness teacher and psychotherapist, talks to Jenevora about the power of mindfulness for performers, for students in schools and MPs in parliament.
When does teaching become facilitating? How much are we imparting information and how much are we enabling the student to discover things for themselves? Why would facilitation be a more effective way to learn? All these questions, questions and more questions - will Stephen, Robert and Jenevora ever find an answer?
Jenevora and Robert are joined by Anita Morrison to talk about Feldenkrais training, lessons, philosophy, and practice. It’s not easy to describe a feeling and somatic learning experience in words, a bit like describing the taste of a mango. They did a wonderful job nonetheless. Please come and join Robert, Anita and Jenevora on November the 8th and/or 9th in London to explore your own feelings about the Feldenkrais experience: https://vocalhealth.co.uk/conversation-robert-sussuma/
The Failure Conversation

The Failure Conversation

2025-09-0501:05:45

What about when things go wrong? This conversation happened several months ago but has only finished being edited. Jenevora, Robert and Stephen talk about the difficulty that we come across when things don't go well. Stephen tells a story about shower drains, Robert talks about disagreeableness leading to change and Jenevora shares insights from the studio. This episode is full of laughter and fun and will take you on a philosophical journey to failure...
The Robert Price Interview

The Robert Price Interview

2025-03-2801:06:06

In this episode, Stephen interviews the legendary voice teacher Robert Price. Stephen and Robert talk about Robert's time in the circus as a metal clown, dropping out of law school and travelling the world teaching vocal massage. They also discuss the future of relational vocal massage and establish it -perhaps- as a method of Body Psychotherapy. Celebrating the launch of their co-authored book, The Handbook of Vocal Massage: A Relational Approach, this is a whirlwind episode best...
Join our hosts as they take us through their thoughts on breaking free. As you’ll hear, the conversation develops into whether we break free from, or break free in to new habits, behaviours and spaces. This episode is a precursor to the breaking free conference listed below. Booking through the vocalhealth.co.uk website. Breaking Free One-Day Vocal Health Education Conference 9th March, 2025 Friends House, 173-177 Euston Rd., London NW1 2BJ Breath Support: Breaking Free From One-Size-Fits-...
In our latest episode of The Thinking Voice Podcast Stephen King interviews Carles Expósito Rovira. Carles is a performing arts physiotherapist specialising in the artistic voice. When one brilliant vocal manual therapist (Stephen King) interviews another you know you are going to be in for a magical conversation! Stephen and Carles discuss his ongoing Phd research into the tongue and the all-important role of proprioception in training voice users to make meaningful change. Carles is a...
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