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The Live Drop
Author: Mark Valley
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The Live Drop is a HUMINT experiment — long-form conversations with intelligence professionals, diplomats, historians, authors, and analysts from around the world who think seriously about information collection, espionage, geopolitics, and national security. Hosted by former Army officer and actor Mark Valley.
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Michael Sellers spent a decade as a CIA case officer, with postings in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia. He landed in Cold War Moscow in 1984 under diplomatic cover where uhe worked on the Tolkachev operation - subject of the new film Billion Dollar spy starting Russell Crowe coming out soon. Sellers was first recruited into the CIA after studying film at NYU. In Moscow he also ran a KGB counterintelligence officer, Sergey Vorontsov, who handed him a sample of the KGB’s chemical surveillance tracking powder — “spy dust” — at a park meeting in April 1985. Sellers served twenty-one months as an extremely street-active officer before being arrested and expelled in March 1986 during a covert meeting with Vorontsov. He has since become a writer and filmmaker and, since 2023, a criminal defense and civil rights investigator. He publishes the Substack Deeper Look, a prolific evidence-based read on intelligence, current events, and the stories behind the headlines. michaeldsellers.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
LD077: In June 1949, the CIA and MI6 secretly agreed to overthrow Albania's communist dictator Enver Hoxha. The operation — codenamed BGFiend — would use exiled Albanian dissidents, paramilitary infiltration, propaganda broadcasts from a yacht in the Adriatic, and a network of émigré communities in Rome, Athens, and West Germany. It ran for four years. It failed almost completely. Historian Stephen Long spent seven years in the CIA's declassified archive working through 6,700 pages of operational files — files that also contained British intelligence reports MI6 never intended anyone to see. What he found upends the standard explanation. BGFiend wasn't killed by Kim Philby. It was penetrated from the start by Italian naval intelligence, which had fully mapped the operation's émigré networks before the first agent crossed the border. The Albanian security service — the Sigurimi — was young but learning fast, supported by a ruthless political leadership and an informant network that reached down to the village level. Agents were dropped by parachute with minimal training, often miles from their target locations. They hid by day, moved at night, and were hunted by pursuit brigades, civilian militia, border guards, and regular police simultaneously. When Apple team radio operator Prenzi was captured, he did everything he could to signal that the operation was blown — including transmitting with his left hand after breaking his right arm escaping from prison. The CIA didn't want to believe it. Nine more men went in. Long argues BGFiend wasn't reckless — it was the West's painful apprenticeship in covert action, a template for everything that followed, from Poland to Ukraine to the Bay of Pigs. The lessons were eventually learned. Just not in time to save the men already in the field. Stephen Long is author of A Rich Harvest of Bitter Fruit: CIA and MI6 Covert Action in Communist Albania at the Dawn of the Cold War (Icon Books, 2026) https://www.iconbooks.comFurther ReadingRory Cormac, How to Stage a Coup: And Ten Other Lessons from the World of Secret Statecraft (Atlantic Books, 2022)https://www.atlantic-books.co.ukRichard J. Aldrich, GCHQ: The Uncensored Story of Britain's Most Secret Intelligence Agency (Harper Press, 2010)https://www.harpercollins.co.ukRichard H. Immerman, The Hidden Hand: A Brief History of the CIA (Wiley-Blackwell, 2014)https://www.wiley.comTim Weiner, Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA (Doubleday, 2007)https://www.penguinrandomhouse.comDavid Smiley, Albanian Assignment (Chatto & Windus, 1984)https://www.worldcat.org/title/albanian-assignmentOn the Sigurimi and AlbaniaBlendi Fevziu, Enver Hoxha: The Iron Fist of Albania (I.B. Tauris, 2016)https://www.bloomsbury.comAlbanian Authority for Access to Information on Ex-Sigurimi Fileshttps://www.aidssh.gov.al Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jack Beaumont, a former DGSE (French external intelligence) operative, focusing on Beaumont's experiences, his writing process, and the themes of his espionage novels. Beaumont explains that his writing began as a therapeutic exercise to cope with PTSD from his intelligence work, initially not intended for publication. He emphasizes the importance of memory and meticulous detail in his novels, a habit developed from years of writing exhaustive mission reports for the DGSE, which required both objective intelligence and subjective, sensory-rich accounts. This attention to detail, including smells and sounds, shapes the immersive quality of his books.Beaumont discusses the psychological toll of intelligence work, particularly the challenge of maintaining multiple identities and the difficulty of returning to normal family life after missions. He describes how operatives often develop a 'dark side' to manipulate and recruit sources, sometimes leading to moral injury and high rates of divorce and suicide among operatives. He notes that PTSD in intelligence work is not just about trauma from danger, but also from ethical dilemmas and the manipulation or destruction of innocent lives for the sake of national security.The conversation explores the differences between the DGSE and agencies like the CIA and MI6. Beaumont highlights the French focus on human intelligence (HUMINT), rooted in the legacy of the French Resistance, as opposed to the American emphasis on technical intelligence (SIGINT, COMINT) due to larger budgets and resources. He explains the 'MICE' framework (Money, Ideology, Coercion, Ego) for recruiting sources, and the ethical complexities involved, especially when coercion or blackmail is used as a last resort. France's DGSI data sharing and reliance on Palantir software is a continuing point of debate over information sovereignty. Beaumont also touches on the use of AI in writing and intelligence. He expresses skepticism about AI's ability to replicate the nuance and authenticity of human memory and creativity, noting that AI-generated translations and narratives often lack the depth and accuracy required for his work. He uses AI only sparingly, mainly for translation assistance, and finds it inadequate for creative writing.Throughout the interview, Beaumont shares anecdotes about real-life inspirations for his characters, the challenges of translation, and the camaraderie and personal stories of his colleagues. He reflects on the enduring appeal of the Templar Knights among operatives, symbolizing a code of honor and sacrifice. The discussion provides a rare, candid insight into the realities of modern espionage, the personal costs of intelligence work, and the evolving threats and ethical questions facing those in the field today.The Frenchman, Jack BeaumontDark Arena, Jack BeaumontBelmondo's Le Professionelmarkvalley.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this interview, I had the pleasure of speaking with a Cold War expert--Shawnna Morris--about her fascinating book on the Cambridge Five spy ring. We talked about how her book has been received both in the UK and the US, and she shared some insights into the cultural attitudes around this famous espionage group. Shauna guided me through the recruitment storyline, explaining how Philby, McLean, Burgess, Blunt, and Cairncross became Soviet spies, and the social dynamics that let them operate undetected for so long. We explored the complicated personalities of each member—especially Philby’s evolution from idealist to, uhm, sociopath, and the betrayals that marked their personal lives. We also discussed how the legacy of the Cambridge Five continues to influence not just intelligence services, but also the way the story is told in books, films, and archives over time. Shauna reflected on the moral ambiguity at the heart of their actions and how new information continues to shift the narrative. Finally, she shared her excitement about her next project: a book focusing on extraordinary women in Cold War history. Websites:https://coldwarhistoryblog.com/https://coldwarbookreviews.wordpress.com/https://shawnnamorris.com/Here are her socials:https://www.facebook.com/CambridgeSpyRing/https://www.facebook.com/coldwarhistoryblog/https://www.facebook.com/ShawnnaMorrisAuthor/https://www.instagram.com/thecambridgespyring/https://www.instagram.com/coldwarhistoryblog/https://www.instagram.com/shawnnamorrisauthor/https://x.com/CambridgeSpiesThe book is available at Pen and Sword https://www.penandswordbooks.com/9781036108687/the-cambridge-spy-ring/and all major online retailers like Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc.References:Films about the Cambridge Five across the decades...Philby, Burgess, and MacLean (1977)Blunt (1983) An Englishman Abroad (1987)A Spy Among Friends (2022) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This episode of The Live Drop, I talk with James Stejskal — a former U.S. Army Special Forces operator from Detachment “A” in Cold War Berlin who later worked in intelligence before turning to history and fiction. He’s the author of Special Forces Berlin and the Snake Eater Chronicles, and his latest books — The Ratcatcher and The Berlin Spy Guide — bring that same mix of lived experience and deep research. We dig into The Ratcatcher, a Berlin spy novel that fuses counterintelligence, crime, and military thriller — following the murder of a CI officer and the hunt for a U.S. traitor--the premise of which comes from a real case buried deep in the Stasi files. James talks about class and culture inside Cold War espionage — Ivy League analysts versus scrappy gumshoe operators — and what it really took to recruit sources behind the Wall. We also get into his research adventures in the archives, Berlin’s Cold War landmarks including a McDonalds, and how today’s Russia mirrors old Soviet tactics through imperial nostalgia and opportunism abroad.James StejskalBerlin Spy GuideRatcatcher of Berlin Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.








