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Makeup Artist and Founder of Saint Jack Beth Wilson talks to the most inspirational artists from the world of beauty about their careers so far. From climbing the ranks of makeup counters to becoming celebrity artists, we talk about the highs and lows of running your own business, battling your inner saboteur and exactly what it takes to shine Behind the Brush.
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Today we're celebrating the first birthday of Behind the Brush as Beth looks back on some of her favourite moments of the podcast so far. Featuring snippets from defining episodes, listen to  Australia's finest makeup artists as they discuss what it is like being a makeup artist in 2022. PLUS you'll hear exclusive behind the scenes stories of how Beth got this show off the ground, including embarrassing technical failures AND overcoming her own self-limiting beliefs that the world did not need another new podcast. With an abundance of gratitude and good vibes, thank you to all the listeners of this show that make the hard work we put into the podcast so very worth it. Cheers to the first year! Episode resources:Listen to Jack Cail’s EpisodeListen to Hilary Holmes’ EpisodeListen to Penny Antuar (pt. 2) EpisodeListen to Alex Perrin’s EpisodeFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (using code BRUSH15 for 15% off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Elona Commerell

Elona Commerell

2022-10-3101:08:45

Elona Commerell is one of Perth's finest makeup artists. In this episode of Behind the Brush, Elona shares how she started her career behind the counter in retail, before going full-time freelance, discovering her love for educating and opening her own studio, MUSE. Listen as Elona and Beth talk about juggling the pressures of working for yourself, why your career trajectory does *not* have to be linear and what YOU can learn from a piece of marble (yes, you read that right)! Episode resources:Follow Elona on InstagramElona’s studio MUSEFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (using code BRUSH15 for 15% off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Fernando Hervas

Fernando Hervas

2022-10-0901:13:00

On today’s episode of Behind the Brush, Beth is joined by legendary Gold Coast-based artist, Fernando Hervas. Having worked as a makeup artist for over twelve years, Fernando has done everything from bridal to shoots, created an amazing product line with Silk Oil of Morocco and worked with celebrities including Abbie Chatfield, The Veronicas and DJ Tigerlily. Listen as Fernando shares with Beth how he built his high profile clientele, lost & rebuilt his entire Instagram presence and why working in retail might be your best way to crack into this amazing industry. Episode resources:Follow Fernando on InstagramFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (using code BRUSH15 for 15% off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Mia Connor

Mia Connor

2022-08-2901:10:55

On this highly requested episode of Behind the Brush, Beth is joined by one of Australia’s most well-known makeup artists, Mia Connor. Having worked in the beauty industry for almost twenty years, Mia has been named Makeup Artist of the Year by the Australian Beauty Industry Awards and is a world-class educator, traveling the world with her in-depth masterclasses. Listen as Beth and Mia talk about overcoming your fears to build the career of your dreams and why building your personal brand on social media is just as important as building your business. Episode resources:Follow Mia on InstagramFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (using code BRUSH15 for 15% off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Alex Perrin

Alex Perrin

2022-08-1001:11:26

On this episode of Behind the Brush, Beth is joined by one of Sydney’s most in-demand makeup artists, Alex Perrin. With over ten years’ experience, Alex has done everything from editorial to ecommerce, has hosted her own masterclasses and is sought after for her iconic bridal artistry that has seen her travel not just all over Australia, but all over the world. Listen as Beth and Alex speak candidly about the joys of being a bridal artist, how to stay grounded during your ‘hustle era’ and why you should NEVER forget why you started. Episode resources:Follow Alex on InstagramFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (using code BRUSH15 for 15% off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Dani Cousens

Dani Cousens

2022-07-2701:00:45

Dani Cousens is one of Melbourne's most sought after bridal and event makeup artists, and she is known for her signature soft glam looks. She's a New Zealand native, but has settled in Melbourne, where she is renowned for her signature soft glam style. For the first time ever, Beth asked the Behind the Brush community to submit their questions about being a bridal makeup artist, and in this episode Dani spills all tea. Prepare to learn all you need to know about building a business in the bridal industry and be inspired for the upcoming season. Find out more about Dani:Dani’s InstagramDani’s WebsiteMakeup By Dani AcademyEpisode resources:Follow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off) 
Remember that spicy Instagram story Beth posted on Saint Jack? The one with the beauty brand that wanted the world in exchange for ... well ... nothing? Buckle up, because this episode spills that tea and then some. On this episode, learn why Beth rejected an offer to work with a top tier brand AND her top tips on how to excel as a creator in today's content economy.  Episode resources:Follow Saint Jack on InstagramFollow Beth on Instagram Shop Saint Jack  (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Danh Doan

Danh Doan

2022-05-1258:13

Nine years ago, at just 13 years of age, Danh Doan started a makeup Instagram. Today, Danh is 23 and one of the most sought-after bridal and special event makeup artists in Canberra. In this episode, Danh tells Beth about how he built such a successful career at an extraordinarily young age, defying his parents’ dream for him to have a conventional job and creating the career of his dreams. A great listen for artists of any age and at any stage of their beauty journey.Follow Danh Follow Danh on Instagram Follow Danh on TikTok Follow Beth / Saint Jack:Follow Beth on Instagram Follow Beth on TikTokFollow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Saint Jack on TikTok Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Sabrina Walsh

Sabrina Walsh

2022-04-2001:06:26

Sabrina Walsh is the picture of a modern makeup artist. Hailing from beautiful Brisbane, Sabrina has been a working makeup artist since 2015 and over the last few years has also carved herself a powerful, parallel career in content creation. In this episode of Behind the Brush, Sabrina tells Beth how she embraces the chaos of managing her career as an artist & creator, her tips for growing on TikTok and how to drown out the haters. Follow Sabrina:Sabrina's InstagramSabrina's TikTokFollow Beth / Saint Jack: Follow Saint Jack on Instagram Follow Beth on Instagram Follow Saint Jack on TikTokShop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
In this episode of Behind the Brush, Beth spills on the tea on her inner critic destroying her confidence and how another creative brought her back from the brink. A short episode with a sweet reminder that we are all prone to feeling that we simply aren't 'good enough'. Follow Saint Jack on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/]Follow Beth on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/]Shop Saint Jack [https://saintjack.com.au/] (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off) If you enjoyed this episode then please :Follow, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts Follow and rate on Spotify
Adelle Petropoulos

Adelle Petropoulos

2022-03-2358:301

If you want to know what a working makeup artist looks like in 2022, simply take a look at Adelle Petropoulos. At just 27 years old, Adelle is an in-demand Melbourne bridal & events artist, and has recently taken on the role of Education Specialist at beauty-tech giant FOREO in the Oceania market.In this episode, you'll hear how Adelle quickly evolved from makeup student to makeup teacher, how she avoids comparing herself to her peers and why working in retail might be the best artistry experience you can get. A fun episode that shines a light on the ABUNDANCE of opportunities at the fingertips of any makeup artist willing to work for them.Special note: to celebrate this episode, Saint Jack has partnered with FOREO to put together an epic giveaway! To peep the prizes and enter, simply head to Saint Jack's Instagram account. Note: this giveaway is open to Australian residents only. Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Adelle on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/a_p_artistry/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
Penny Antuar: Part Two

Penny Antuar: Part Two

2022-03-0851:22

With more than eighteen years experience, Penny Antuar is one of the most in-demand editorial and fashion makeup artists in Australia. A leading voice in the beauty industry internationally, Penny is a regular at New York Fashion Week and has worked for brands including Prada, Tiffany & Co and Shona Joy.In Part Two of this interview, Penny talks to Beth about how she started working with Fenty Beauty before the brand even existed, as well as her experiences with racial injustice on set. A truly important episode for anyone who considers themselves a makeup artist to hear.Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Penny on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/pennyantuar/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
Penny Antuar: Part One

Penny Antuar: Part One

2022-02-2347:40

With more than eighteen years experience, Penny Antuar is one of the most in-demand editorial and fashion makeup artists in Australia. A leading voice in the beauty industry internationally, Penny is a regular at New York Fashion Week and has worked for brands including Prada, Tiffany & Co and Shona Joy. In Part One of this interview, Penny talks to Beth about how she got her start as a freelance makeup artist, mastering the lost art of networking and how a simple email launched her career into the trajectory of an artist's dreams. Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Penny on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/pennyantuar/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
Are you happy enough with your content that you'd let people pay for it? In this episode,  Beth takes the mic solo to discuss the latest feature that Instagram has recently started testing in the States - subscriptions. With this feature, creators will be able to set a monthly price of their choice, unlock a "subscribe" button on their profile and offer exclusive benefits to their subscribers. So, what does this mean for you as a user and, more importantly, what does this mean for you as a creator? Are you ready for the evolution of the 'gram?! Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
Lou Griffin

Lou Griffin

2022-01-2659:05

In the first episode of 2022, Beth is joined by Lou Griffin - Melbourne Makeup Artist & founder of cult brand Lou Lou Lips. After being in the industry for almost a decade, Lou is specialises in fashion photo shoots, with brands like JAGGAD, Russell Athletic and Kat the Label regularly knocking on her door.  Beth and Lou talk candidly about mental health, the challenges of owning your own business and practicing patience on your journey to being a full-time freelancer. Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Lou on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/louisejeanmakeup/Shop Lou Lou Lips (use code BRUSH20 for $$ off)https://louloulips.com/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
21 Lessons from 2021

21 Lessons from 2021

2021-12-2838:48

In the final episode of the year, Beth takes the mic solo for the first time ever & counts down her top lessons from 2021. Weaving in unforgettable advice from some past guests, this episode is serving pearls of wisdom for running your own business, being the best artist you can be and cultivating the life of your dreams.  Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/ 
Tanielle Jai

Tanielle Jai

2021-12-1401:13:36

A woman who needs no introduction, Tanielle Jai is one of the the most sought after makeup artists in Australia. Hailing from beautiful Brisbane, Tanielle has been in the industry for over fifteen years and has made a name for herself with her flawless work - ranging from shoots, editorial and bridal.  Tanielle talks to Beth about building her career from the ground up, what it was like to build an Instagram following of over 300,000 followers and her latest projects - her new brush line and 'The Tutorial'. An essential chat for any makeup artist, at any stage of their career. Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Tanielle on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/taniellejaimua/Shop the Tanielle Jai Brushes & Tutorialhttps://taniellejai.com/Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off)https://saintjack.com.au/ 
The Ballerina Bride MUA is an ICON of  colourful and intricate makeup looks. Hailing from sunny Brisbane, Laura grew her Instagram account from just 3,000 to 30,000 followers in a year - all by embracing the kind of makeup SHE loved, rather than trying to be someone she isn't. In this episode, Beth talks to Laura about her long & windy road to becoming an artist, what it felt like to be featured on James Charles' YouTube channel & the art of making space to be creative. 
Hilary Holmes

Hilary Holmes

2021-11-1601:05:55

Hilary Holmes is a powerhouse of the Australian beauty industry. After getting her start on the counters of Smashbox and MAC, Hilary quickly became one of Melbourne's most sought-after freelance makeup artists. Today, she is known for so much more than her artistry, as she works tirelessly to empower her clients & community to truly #backyourbeauty. In this episode we talk about everything from growing a team to launching a product line, and how to value yourself not just as a makeup artist - but a woman. An essential listen not just for artists but anyone who has been touched by makeup, I know you'll want to listen chat again & again. Follow Saint Jack on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Hilary on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/hilaryholmesmakeup/Shop the Holme Beauty primerhttps://holmebeauty.com/ Shop Saint Jack (use code BRUSH15 for $$ off) https://saintjack.com.au/ 
Jack Cail

Jack Cail

2021-11-0257:32

What can't Jack Cail do? From launching his own sell-out product line to being named by Elle Magazine as one of Melbourne's Finest Makeup Artists, Jack has certainly made his mark in the Australian beauty industry.   On this very first episode of Behind the Brush, Jack shares his experience climbing the ranks of retail from a young age, the art of saying 'no' and creating the career of your dreams.   Follow Saint Jack on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bysaintjack/Follow Beth on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/bethwilson_mua/Follow Jack on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jackcail/Check out 'Faces by Jack' athttps://jackcailmakeup.com/products/faces-by-jack-1 This week's episode is sponsored by Saint Jack:  use code BRUSH15 at https://saintjack.com.au/ for 15% off your next order 🤍
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