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The Standards Show
Author: Matthew Chiles & Cindy Parokkil
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The world’s leading podcast on standards and standardization.
The Standards Show brings you the stories behind the standards, through the people who create, use and benefit from them.
Hosted by Matthew Chiles and Cindy Parokkil, the show explores how standards touch almost every aspect of daily life - from safe AI to better healthcare, from safer products to fairer workplaces - even brewing the perfect cup of tea.
Expect everything from bite-sized guides to deep-dive conversations, along with regular series, such as Standards in 10 Minutes and the monthly Standards Desk of News. The show features industry experts, thought leaders, and standards-makers from around the world.
Sometimes serious, sometimes light-hearted, but always informative, educational, and engaging, The Standards Show is for everyone - whether you work with standards, teach them, study or research them, or are simply curious to learn more.
Discover the impact of standards, one episode at a time.
About the hosts:
- Matthew Chiles is a stakeholder relations specialist with extensive experience communicating policy ideas and programmes.
- Cindy Parokkil is an economist and international development practitioner with deep expertise in global policy.
[The Standards Show was formerly the BSI Education Podcast]
The Standards Show brings you the stories behind the standards, through the people who create, use and benefit from them.
Hosted by Matthew Chiles and Cindy Parokkil, the show explores how standards touch almost every aspect of daily life - from safe AI to better healthcare, from safer products to fairer workplaces - even brewing the perfect cup of tea.
Expect everything from bite-sized guides to deep-dive conversations, along with regular series, such as Standards in 10 Minutes and the monthly Standards Desk of News. The show features industry experts, thought leaders, and standards-makers from around the world.
Sometimes serious, sometimes light-hearted, but always informative, educational, and engaging, The Standards Show is for everyone - whether you work with standards, teach them, study or research them, or are simply curious to learn more.
Discover the impact of standards, one episode at a time.
About the hosts:
- Matthew Chiles is a stakeholder relations specialist with extensive experience communicating policy ideas and programmes.
- Cindy Parokkil is an economist and international development practitioner with deep expertise in global policy.
[The Standards Show was formerly the BSI Education Podcast]
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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for February 2026:BSI celebrates 125 years of raising standards25 years of global standards cooperationNew toy safety standardProtecting workers from climate risks using ISO/PAS 4500710 Emmys and counting for multimedia standardsHave your say on food waste managementSeries | Standards Desk of NewsGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Standards affect all of us every day, everywhere. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance.And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable.In this episode, Matthew speaks with Harry Pangli, a Chartered Architectural Technologist and Architect with over 20 years’ experience across UK domestic, residential, commercial, and industrial projects. Since 2018, Harry has specialised in construction disputes and now works at Expert Architect Limited as a forensic architect and expert witness.Harry represents the Chartered Institute of Architectural Technologists on various BSI committees, and chairs BSI committee B/209 on general design and construction standards, helping shape standards across the built environment.Harry shares his motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the impact standards-making has had on his career, and his advice to anyone considering getting involved in standards.Series | Why I am a standards-makerFind out more about the issues raised in this episode BS 8759 – Design of balconies and terracesB/209 - General design and construction standardsGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
In this episode of the series, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to PD ISO/PAS 45007 – Occupational health and safety management - risks arising from climate change and climate change action - guidance for organizations.Discover the 10 things you need to know.Series | Standards in 10 MinutesFind out more about the issues raised in this episodePD ISO/PAS 45007Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for December 2025 and January 2026:Seoul Statement sets course for trustworthy AI standardsStandards as a tool for growth in World Development Report 2025U.S. launches standards strategy to support innovation and tradeETSI launches Research and Innovation AwardsBSI gains UKAS accreditation to certify AI management systemsHave your say on the circular economySeries | Standards Desk of NewsGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Standards affect all of us every day, everywhere. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance.And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable.In this episode, Matthew speaks with Richard Leathers, Global Quality Lead at Campden BRI, with more than 40 years’ experience in food safety. Richard is an active standards-maker through AW/90, the BSI committee for food industry quality standards, contributing to key standards including ISO 22000 (food safety management systems) and ISO 22002 (prerequisite programmes).Richard describes his motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the impact standards-making has had on his career, and his advice to anyone considering getting involved in standards.Series | Why I am a standards-makerFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeISO 22000 – food safety management systemsISO 22002 – food safety series – The Magnificent SevenGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Personal protective equipment, or PPE, has faced challenges in fitting a diverse workforce – research shows that 36% of women in the UK and 45% of women globally are supplied PPE that doesn’t fit properly.Poorly fitting PPE isn’t just uncomfortable – in sectors like construction, healthcare, and policing, it can create serious safety risks, reduce job satisfaction, and even drive skilled workers from industries already experiencing labour shortages.BS 30417, the new standard for inclusive PPE, provides practical guidance to ensure all employees are properly protected, regardless of gender, ethnicity, body shape, age, or disability.In this episode, we hear from key voices at the Westminster launch of BS 30417, including MPs, industry leaders, and the standards-makers themselves, discussing how the standard enhances safety, inclusivity, and workforce well-being. Guests also share insights on its development, practical applications, and how organizations are preparing to implement it.Find out more about the issues raised in this episodeBS 30417 | Provision of inclusive PPEStandards in 10 Minutes | BS 30417Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Suicide affects every part of society, with around 6,000 deaths in the UK each year and one in four adults having contemplated it, leaving hundreds impacted by each loss. BS 30480 addresses this by providing the UK’s first workplace standard on suicide prevention, offering practical guidance to help organizations recognize risk, respond safely, and create supportive, stigma-free environments.In this episode, Matthew speaks to Jamie Compton Rea, Chief Operating Officer at the National Centre for Suicide Prevention Education and Training (NCSPET) and standards-maker involved in the development of BS 30480. They discuss why BS 30480 is a landmark standard, Jamie’s role in its development, and the steps organizations should take in their first 100 days of putting the standard into practice.Since it’s The Standards Show, Jamie also reflects on his own standards journey – what motivated him to get involved, and what continues to inspire his involvement today.Find out more about the issues raised in this episodeBS 30480 | Suicide and the workplaceGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for November 2025:New standard for organizational action on suicide awarenessJapan hospital achieves first ISO 7101 certificationBSI achieves global first in AI management certificationCEN and CENELEC Standards + Innovation Award Winners 2025Standards take centre stage at COP 30Celebrating World Quality Week Series | Standards Desk of News BSI Education HubGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Global food safety relies on clear, practical standards. The ISO 22002 series - aka “The Magnificent Seven” – helps organizations manage contamination, fraud, and hygiene risks, ensuring consistent quality across food, feed, and packaging sectors.In this episode, Matthew speaks to Richard Leathers, Amanda McCarthy, and Angela Cunningham, three of the standards-makers behind the series. They discuss how the seven standards, including updates and new parts for retail, wholesale, and the universal supply-chain foundation, help organizations put ISO 22000 Prerequisite Programmes (PRPs) into practice efficiently and consistently.Since it’s The Standards Show, Richard, Amanda, and Angela also reflect on their own standards journeys - what motivated them to get involved, and what continues to inspire their involvement today.Find out more about the issues raised in this episode.ISO 22002 seriesISO 22000 – food safety management systems BSI Standards Committee AW/90 – Quality systems for the food industryGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for October 2025:ISO and ARSO sign historic Kigali Agreement Circular economy experts win top ISO awardETSI launches TC on quantum technologiesPacific Islands Standards Committee endorsed as regional standards bodyISO 22002 series updated to strengthen global food safetyHave your say on EU Standardization Regulation 1025Series | Standards Desk of News BSI Education Hub Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
In this episode of the series, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to BS 30417 - provision of inclusive PPE.Discover the 10 things you need to know.Series | Standards in 10 MinutesFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeBS 30417 - provision of inclusive PPEGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
BSI Reports and Whitepapers provide expert insights, guidance, and analysis on various topics related to standards, compliance, and best practices. They are designed to inform and educate organizations, industries, and policymakers about emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities in areas where standards play a critical role.This episode is an audio-abridged version of the BSI Report - The Tipping Point: Building Trust in the circular economy. Developed with Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership, the report explores how trust can accelerate the move toward a circular economy. Based on global research, it shows that while most people support circularity, concerns about quality, safety, and greenwashing still hold many back. The report highlights five ways to build trust: proof of performance, transparency, independent checks, shared standards, and secure data - key steps to make circular practices credible, mainstream, and profitable.Series | AudiobooksFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeBuilding trust in the circular economyGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for August and September 2025:Have your say on ISO 9001ISO 21001 sets new benchmark for education qualityBSI secures new funding for Commonwealth Standards NetworkStandards contribute €1B annually to Austria’s economyWinner of the IEC Lord Kelvin Award 2025New standard to address critical gaps in PPE fitSeries | Standards Desk of News BSI Education Hub Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Quantum technology uses physics to achieve what today’s tech can’t - like unhackable communications and computers beyond supercomputers. It could reshape daily life with safer banking, better medicines, smarter climate tracking and faster supply chains.Recognizing this, the UN named 2025 the International Year of Quantum Science and Technology, marking its shift from labs to real-world impact. To ensure global success, standards bodies like BSI, IEC, and ISO are working to make systems secure, trusted, and interoperable.In this episode, Matthew speaks to IBM’s Tony Holland and BSI’s Gavin Jones about quantum technology standards. Together, they take us on a journey in three parts: starting with the big picture of what quantum is and why global standards matter; moving to the UK’s role and the importance of mirror committees; and finally looking ahead to the UK’s strategy, the progress so far, and what’s coming next.And because it’s The Standards Show, Tony and Gavin also reflect on their own standards journeys - what motivated them to get involved, and what continues to inspire their involvement today.Find out more about the issues raised in this episodeISO/IEC JTC3 – Quantum technologiesICT/4 – Quantum technologiesISO/IEC 4879 – Quantum computing – vocabulary Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
Standards shape almost everything around us - but how do we learn about them, and why do they matter? In this special episode, Matthew and BSI colleague Emma Glass provide a guide to the BSI Education Hub.The Hub is designed to advance and support standards education and research. More than a resource library, it’s a space where academics, researchers, students, and others can connect, share ideas, and explore how standards influence society and the economy.Matthew and Emma explain who the Hub is for, how it works, and how it can inspire learning, collaboration, and innovation in standards education and research.Find out more about the issues raised in this episode.BSI Education HubGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
BSI Reports and Whitepapers provide expert insights, guidance, and analysis on various topics related to standards, compliance, and best practices. They are designed to inform and educate organizations, industries, and policymakers about emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities in areas where standards play a critical role.This episode is an audio-abridged version of the BSI Report - Supporting a safe and secure digital world for adolescents. Published in May 2025, the report reveals that nearly half (47%) of young people aged 16 to 21 would prefer to grow up without the internet - a stark reflection of concerns about its impact on their wellbeing. Drawing on a survey of 1,293 UK adolescents, it shows that time spent online has increased since COVID-19, with many spending hours each day on social media and gaming. Despite this, 42% admit to hiding their online activity from parents, and risky behaviours, such as creating fake profiles are common. The findings highlight the urgent need for stronger privacy and safety measures by tech companies and policymakers to protect young users’ mental health and online safety.Series | AudiobooksFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeBSI Digital TrustCPINISO COPOLCOGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
In this episode of the series, and to celebrate 200 episodes of the podcast, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to standards.Discover the 10 things you need to know.Series | Standards in 10 MinutesFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeBSI Education HubGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news.The Standards Desk of News for July 2025:Indian hospitals benefit from ISO 7101African nations unite to harmonize standardsNominations open for CEN and CENELEC’s Standards + Innovation AwardsBSI Innovation Management Summit 2025 BRICS summit advances standardization for sustainabilityHave your say on Net Zero transition planningSeries | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
In this episode of the series, Matthew provides a 10-minute guide to ISO 37003 - Fraud control management systems.Discover the 10 things you need to know.Series | Standards in 10 MinutesFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeISO 37003 – Fraud management systemsISO 37001 – Anti-bribery management systemsGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show
In this episode of the series, Matthew provides a 10-minute guide to ISO 37001 - Anti-bribery management systems.Discover the 10 things you need to know.Series | Standards in 10 MinutesFind out more about the issues raised in this episodeISO 37001 – Anti-bribery management systemsISO 37003 – Fraud management systemsGet involved with standardsGet in touch with The Standards Showeducation@bsigroup.comsend a voice messageFind and follow on social mediaX @StandardsShowInstagram @thestandardsshowLinkedIn | The Standards Show























