The Make Music Income Podcast

A lot is going on in Sync Licensing right now.BMI now has Cue Sheets. Why is this a big deal?The Production Music Conference is coming…should you go?Special thanks to https://www.youtube.com/@chriswilliamstunes1 for reminding me about this!Find out more at BMI.comCheck out the PMC at:https://pmamusic.com/pmc-2026/WORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, One-on-One Zooms, and Monday Morning Email Updates. (For all experience levels.)START HERE:https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ONE ON ONE COACHING:https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/Get FREE stuff at:https://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here:https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube.Click here:https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here:https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC:Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.comTIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Why It's Been a While3:05 - Sync Partners5:32 - BMI Now Has Cue Sheets18:55 - Cue Sheets vs TuneSat26:08 - The Production Music Conference

In this video I talk about an oft-ignored way to make music income that is likely available to you in your own town: The local church. Churches need music directors, players, singers, sound people, and they often pay for all of this positions.Plus we talk about BMI/PRO Income and the new personal projects we both have going on.#churchmusic #musicroyalties #churchworshipWORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com0:00 - Eric & Shane Intro4:12 - Music Life Relationships6:16 - Eric's New Music Income13:10 - Church Music Income?17:00 - Faith Based Music in Sync, Sales20:39 - Church Music Jobs in Europe22:07 - Traditional vs. Modern Church25:50 - Why a Church Music Job?32:44 - Paying Pros vs Volunteers38:11 - The Importance of Good Music in Church42:10 - Our BMI/PRO Income44:44 - Being a Well Rounded Musician51:00 - Our Recent Personal Projects56:40 - Licensing Music for Release

Hey it’s our 5th Anniversary on Make Music Income and we’re celebrating with some announcements and a special video that goes all the way back to our first one 5 years ago this month!If you are looking to make music AND make income from the music you make, well we are going to talk about ALL the ways. So buckle up for this LIVE podcast.#musiclicensing #musicincome #musicroyalties #musicteaching #churchmusic #passiveincome #musicartistsWORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, One-on-One Zooms, and Monday Morning Email Updates. (For all experience levels.)START HERE: https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ONE ON ONE COACHING:https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/Get FREE stuff at:https://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO:Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here:https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY:Get paid when your music is used on YouTube.Click here:https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5:Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here:https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC:Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.comTIMESTAMPS0:00 - 5 Years on YouTube!4:20 - Only 2 Ways to Make Music Income8:22 - Active Income (Now!)10:08 - Active Income - Music Producer18:12 - Active Income - Live Gigs and Sales22:00 - Active Income - Music Marketing24:50 - Music Teaching27:40 - Church Music Work30:00 - Passive Income - Sync Licensing38:45 - Passive Income - Stock Music/NE Licensing44:44 - Passive Income - Streaming46:26 - Passive Income - Royalties48:31 - Passive Income - Gaming Music/Beats49:40 - Active/Passive - Do Many of These51:45 - The Truth of Music Income52:46 - Q&A

If you have watched this channel, especially my live videos you know the name “Wolfgang Wohrle.” Wolfgang is a German composer who recently had his largest quarterly PRO quarter with BMI directly and only from sync licensing.But Wolfgang didn’t go viral. He didn’t have a hit song. He spent years writing production music, starting in stock music libraries, got discovered by a BMG library, and now almost exactly 5 years later, his PRO royalties exceeded $50,000 in a single quarter.#musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyaltiesWORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR FREE COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.comTIMESTAMPS0:00 - The Road to $50k Per Quarter8:46 - Wolfgang's Sync Story13:36 - From Stock to Sync23:50 - How Long to 4 Figures?26:00 - How Long to 5 Figures?37:30 - What Does This Mean For YOU?42:20 - What's the Secret Sauce to Sync Success?

In this video I join with Dave Kropf of @52Cues to talk about how we see the Future of Sync Licensing.#musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyaltiesLearn More About 52 Cues:https://www.52cues.com/WORK WITH ERIC:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://payhip.com/b/iJpkeGet FREE stuff athttps://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here:https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here:https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here:https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com0:00 - Welcome to the Future (and Dave)3:02 - Disclaimer5:58 - The Future of Sync for Beginners19:56 - The Future of Sync for Income27:19 - The Future of Sync 5 Years In37:41 - The Future of Sync & A.I.50:40 - Eric's Rant to Composers About A.I.54:28 - Sync and A.I Do Not Mix in 2026!1:01:03 - Changes to Libraries in the Future?1:08:03 - The Future of Dave in Sync1:10:32 - The Future of Eric in Sync1:14:56 - Stop Sync, Keep Making Income?1:18:41 - Should You Switch Sync Libraries?1:20:43 - The Future of Jazz in Sync?