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RealDealChat brings you unfiltered conversations with elite real estate investors who share their journey to success. Each episode delivers practical wisdom from industry leaders who openly discuss:
• Proven strategies that are generating results in today's market
• Honest reflections on mistakes and missteps they've encountered along the way
• Actionable takeaways you can implement immediately to elevate your real estate portfolio

Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, our no-fluff interviews provide the real-world insights you need to navigate the complexities of real estate investing and accelerate your path to financial freedom.

Join us as we decode the secrets of successful real estate investors and help you transform their hard-earned lessons into your competitive advantage.
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Nathan Schiess explains why personal branding isn’t optional for real estate investors—and why waiting until you need capital is already too late.In this episode of RealDealChat, Nathan Schiess—real estate investor turned personal branding consultant—breaks down why documenting your journey matters more than perfecting your pitch.Nathan shares his own story of building and liquidating a real estate portfolio without documenting any of it—and how that hard lesson shaped his work helping investors, agents, syndicators, and capital raisers build trust before they need it. We unpack the difference between personal brands and company brands, why repetition is necessary (not annoying), how to think about ICP and USP, and why most investors should hire this out instead of trying to DIY content.We also dive into AI, batching content, why “giving away the secret sauce” actually increases credibility, and how a strong personal brand follows you from one venture to the next—unlike a business brand that stays behind.If you ever plan to raise capital, partner on deals, or stand out in a crowded market, this episode is required listening.🔗 Connect with Nathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-schiess/If this episode helped you rethink personal branding, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwittera...
Natalie Cloutier shares how she built a multimillion-dollar rental portfolio by focusing on small new builds, sweat equity, and long-term thinking.In this episode of RealDealChat, Natalie Cloutier—co-founder of The New Build Couple and author of a new book on small-scale development—breaks down how she and her husband built a $13M+ rental portfolio by starting with their own home and scaling into duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes, and sixplexes.We explore how new-build rentals can work even without large upfront capital, the power of sweat equity, and why credit unions and construction-to-permanent loans are often overlooked advantages. Natalie shares hard-earned lessons on zoning battles, infill development, dealing with neighborhood pushback, and why staying small (six units or less) often produces better cash flow with less risk.This conversation goes beyond tactics—it’s about resilience, patience, and why real estate success usually takes a decade, not a year.🌐 Learn more + Natalie’s book: 👉 https://thenewbuildcouple.comIf this episode helped you rethink new construction and long-term investing, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comKeywords: new build rentals, Natalie Cloutier, small multifamily investing, build to rent strategy, sweat equity real estate, construction loans, house hacking, infill development, zoning for real estate investors, BRRRR strategy, real estate portfolio scaling, real estate mindset, RealDealChat podcastRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebook
Cost segregation expert Erik Oliver explains why this strategy now works for small rentals—and how 100% bonus depreciation changes the game.In this episode of RealDealChat, Erik Oliver breaks down cost segregation in plain English and explains why it’s no longer just for massive commercial properties.We cover how accelerated depreciation works, why bonus depreciation puts cost segregation “on steroids,” and how investors can unlock massive tax savings—even on single-family rentals. Erik also walks through common misconceptions, why most CPAs don’t offer cost segregation, how depreciation recapture really works, and when this strategy doesn’t make sense.You’ll also hear how technology and AI are reducing study costs, what the process looks like step-by-step, and how investors can use cost segregation strategically to grow faster—without crossing IRS lines.If you own real estate and pay taxes, this episode could change how you think about depreciation forever.🌐 Learn more about Erik & his team: 👉 https://mavencostseg.com/ericIf this episode helped clarify cost segregation, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comKeywords: cost segregation, bonus depreciation, Erik Oliver, real estate tax strategy, accelerated depreciation, real estate investing taxes, depreciation recapture explained, passive income tax planning, real estate CPA topics, tax strategies for investors, cost segregation study, RealDealChat podcastRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebook
Jason Hull explains why bad property managers destroy returns—and why smart investors start with the manager, not the property.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jason Hull, founder of DoorGrow and host of The DoorGrow Show, breaks down one of the most overlooked truths in real estate investing: property management—not the property—is the key to true passive income.We unpack why so many investors struggle with micromanagement, misaligned incentives, and emotional decision-making—and how most property managers end up trapped in what Jason calls the “cycle of suck.” Jason explains how elite investors flip the script by finding a great property manager first, paying them well, and letting them protect the asset.This conversation also dives into off-market deal flow through property managers, why DIY management stalls growth, how bad properties create bad tenants, and what technology and AI will (and won’t) replace in property management.If you want real passive income—not a second job—this episode is required listening.🌐 Learn more about DoorGrow: 👉 https://doorgrow.com🎙️ Jason’s Podcast: The DoorGrow ShowCall to Action: If this episode saved you from hiring the wrong property manager, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comKeywords: property management, Jason Hull, DoorGrow, passive income real estate, real estate investing mistakes, hiring a property manager, off market real estate deals, rental property investing, property management systems, investor mindset, real estate operations, real estate automation, RealDealChat podcastRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon Music
Franchise expert Adam Goldman explains how the right franchise can complement real estate investing, create deal flow, and unlock scalable systems.In this episode of RealDealChat, Adam Goldman—former franchise owner turned franchise consultant—breaks down how franchising can work alongside real estate investing to create additional income, systems, and leverage.Adam shares his journey from owning an office-cleaning franchise to placing hundreds of franchisees across dozens of industries. We discuss why SOPs and brand systems are often undervalued, how franchises can support real estate investors with capital and deal flow, and which business models are best suited for semi-absentee ownership.We also explore real estate-adjacent franchises, service businesses that generate investor leads, and why understanding your personal strengths—and weaknesses—is critical when choosing a franchise.🌐 Learn more & connect with Adam: 👉 https://franchisecoach.netCall to Action: If this episode expanded how you think about business and investing, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comKeywords: franchise investing, Adam Goldman, franchise consultant, franchising for real estate investors, business systems and SOPs, semi absentee businesses, service based franchises, real estate adjacent businesses, entrepreneurship podcast, scalable business models, passive income strategies, RealDealChat podcastRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterspan...
One answered phone call launched Brian Truman into multifamily real estate—and built a career powered by relationships, not transactions.In this episode of RealDealChat, Brian Truman shares the unlikely origin story that launched his multifamily career just weeks after getting his real estate license—starting with a Saturday night phone call, a last-minute 1031 exchange, and a connection that changed everything.Brian breaks down why commercial real estate is a relationship business, how a small group of repeat clients can create massive leverage, and what he’s seeing right now in multifamily markets—from emerging tertiary cities to distressed assets, seller carrybacks, and creative financing.We also dig into imposter syndrome, building a trusted network fast, spotting real opportunities in uncertain markets, and why answering your phone still matters more than any tech stack.📞 Connect with Brian directly:Call or text: 615-260-2121Call to Action:If this episode helped you rethink networking and deal flow, share it with one investor friend—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comKeywords: multifamily real estate, commercial real estate broker, Brian Truman, multifamily investing, relationship based sales, 1031 exchange investing, emerging real estate markets, seller financing multifamily, creative real estate finance, commercial real estate networking, investor relationships, real estate deal flow, RealDealChat podcastRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwittera...
After losing everything in the 2008 crash, Allen Lomax rebuilt his life by rethinking wealth, taxes, and trust—and created The Great Tax Escape.In this episode of RealDealChat, Allen Lomax shares a deeply personal story of loss, reinvention, and clarity after the 2008 financial crash wiped out everything he had built.We explore why high-income professionals often feel trapped despite success, how taxes quietly erode wealth, and why working harder inside a broken system rarely leads to freedom. Allen breaks down his six-phase framework for becoming a capital allocator—covering trusted networks, due diligence, infrastructure, tax strategy, and disciplined oversight.This is a powerful conversation about trust over control, systems over hustle, and why wealth is ultimately about freedom, choice, and purpose—not just numbers.🌐 Learn More:👉 https://thegreattaxescape.org🎙️ Allen’s Podcast: Dreams to ImpactCall to Action:If this episode made you rethink wealth and taxes, share it with one investor or professional who needs to hear it—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comTimestamps:00:00 – When success still doesn’t feel like freedom01:40 – Losing everything in the 2008 crash04:30 – Fear, shame, and starting over05:45 – The lesson from a horse named Doc07:30 – Why wealth responds to trust, not control10:30 – Becoming a capital allocator12:00 – The six-phase system explained16:30 – Taxes as the invisible wealth killer18:45 – It’s never too late to rebuild22:00 – Building trust through track records26:00 – Technology, CRMs, and AI in investing29:30 – Wealth, meaning, and purpose31:30 – Rapid fire: leverage, mindset, books33:30 – Slowing down as the ultimate time savertax strategy for investors, Allen Lomax, capital allocator, high income professionals, real estate tax planning, alternative investing, passive investing mindset, escaping the IRS, wealth systems, real estate syndication education, financial freedom podcast, RealDealChat podcast, investor mindset, tax efficient investingRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWspan...
After a near-fatal accident put him in a coma, Nick Prefontaine rebuilt his life by learning to trust his inner voice—and that mindset shaped everything that followed.In this powerful episode of RealDealChat, Nick Prefontaine shares the life-altering story that began with a snowboarding accident, a coma, and doctors saying he might never walk, talk, or eat again.Nick breaks down the STEP System—Support, Trust, Energy, and Persistence—and how it guided his recovery, his entry into real estate, and eventually his purpose-driven work as a speaker and mentor. We explore trusting your inner voice, breaking free from fear-based advice, meditation as a performance tool, and how momentum—not motivation—creates lasting change.This episode goes far beyond real estate tactics. It’s about building conviction, clarity, and confidence when the path forward isn’t obvious.🎓 Free Creative Real Estate Masterclass: 👉 smartrealestatecoach.com/mastersclass📘 Free STEP System Download: 👉 nickprefontaine.com/STEPCall to Action: If this episode resonated, share it with one investor or entrepreneur who needs it—and learn more at https://realdealcrew.comRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitter
Mortgage note investing is often pitched as “passive income,” but that’s not the full story.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Jamie Bateman of Labrador Lending to explain how mortgage note investing actually works, why it’s different from owning rental properties, and what investors should realistically expect before getting started.Jamie shares his journey from W-2 employee to rental owner to full-time note investor, including:The difference between performing and non-performing notesWhy banks sell mortgage debt at a discountHow investors “become the bank”The risks most gurus gloss overWhy focus and patience matter more than speedThis episode is ideal for real estate investors exploring alternatives to rentals, or anyone curious about note investing without the hype.RealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to a...
Thomas Collins explains house hacking, multifamily investing, and how to make your assets pay for your lifestyle—starting with your first property.Full DescriptionIn this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Thomas Collins, founder of Shift Rich Academy, to break down one of the most powerful entry points into real estate investing: house hacking.Thomas shares how a single conversation at his day job sparked a mindset shift that led him from renting at $1,400/month to owning a duplex where his tenants paid nearly the entire mortgage. He explains why multifamily properties (especially duplexes, triplexes, and fourplexes) are the smartest first move for new investors—and how FHA loans make it possible with just 3.5% down.The conversation goes deep into:House hacking vs flips (and why HGTV gets it wrong)Establishing your buy box when you plan to live in the propertyUsing short-term rentals to dramatically increase cash flowCostly mistakes with tenants, licenses, and partnershipsWhy systems, virtual assistants, and AI prevent real estate from becoming another jobHow confidence explodes after the first dealWhy waiting for “perfect” kills momentumThis episode is packed with real-world lessons, beginner clarity, and systems thinking for anyone sitting on the sidelines.👉 Join Thomas’ free community: Skool.com → Shift Rich Academy 👉 Build systems & scale smarter: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Make your assets pay for your lifestyle 01:00 – The conversation that changed everything 03:00 – First duplex: living for $130/month 04:45 – Why house hacking beats flips for beginners 06:05 – FHA loans & buying up to four units 07:10 – Establishing your buy box when you’ll live there 08:40 – Long-term vs short-term rental hybrid strategy 10:30 – Parents, college kids & house hacking 11:45 – Managing tenants vs hiring property managers 13:45 – Renting to friends (and breaking the rules) 15:00 – COVID lesson: licenses, paperwork & bad tenants 17:45 – Why communities shorten the learning curve 20:15 – Most expensive mistake: bad partnerships 23:00 – Biggest win: Airbnb pivot = 3X income 25:30 – The confidence shift after the first deal 26:50 – Systems, VAs & avoiding another job 29:30 – AI, calculators & filtering deals faster 31:15 – Shift Rich Academy explained 34:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools#HouseHacking #RealEstateInvesting #PassiveIncome #ThomasCollins #RealDealChat #MultifamilyInvesting #FHAloan #RentalProperties #FinancialFreedom #InvestorMindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management...
Eddie Speed explains why note investing is outperforming rentals, how investors become the bank, and why seller financing is the next shift.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Eddie Speed, founder of NoteSchool, to break down why note investing and seller financing are rapidly outperforming traditional rental properties in today’s market.Eddie explains why rising expenses, compressed cap rates, and stagnant rents are breaking the rental model—and how investors are pivoting by becoming the bank instead. He shares how landlords, realtors, and investors can transition from owning rentals that barely cash flow to holding performing notes generating double-digit returns with far fewer headaches.The conversation dives deep into:Why rentals are producing 4% while notes can produce 9–12%How seller financing creates instant liquidityTurning landlords into “mini mortgage banks”Why rate cuts don’t fix rental mathHow stress-testing strategies prevents catastrophic lossesBlockchain, automation, and the future of mortgage notesWhy mentorship compresses decades of learning into monthsIf you’re a real estate investor questioning your current strategy—or searching for safer, more scalable cash flow—this episode is a must-watch.👉 Learn more about Eddie’s training: https://noteschool.com/realdeal👉 Build investor systems & automation: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Why rentals are breaking down01:00 – Notes vs rentals: the math investors ignore02:45 – Becoming the bank (simple explanation)04:30 – Why investors must change strategies06:15 – From rental portfolios to note portfolios08:15 – Creating instant liquidity with seller financing10:00 – Is this a shiny object—or a real shift?11:45 – Why rate cuts won’t fix rental cash flow13:30 – The real estate quadrants reexamined15:30 – Appreciation vs cash today18:30 – Stress-testing strategies before investing21:00 – Mentorship & compressing time23:30 – Avoiding another “job” in real estate25:45 – First mortgage example explained27:30 – Why seller financing is exploding now30:00 – Technology, automation & blockchain33:00 – Conveyor-belt systems for scaling notes35:30 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools#NoteInvesting #SellerFinancing #EddieSpeed #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #PassiveIncome #CashFlowStrategy #BecomeTheBank #InvestorMindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW
Mitchell Osmond explains why high-performing men feel powerful at work but disconnected at home—and how to rebuild marriage, health, and purpose.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Mitchell Osmond, founder of Dad Nation and host of the Dad Nation Podcast, for a powerful conversation on marriage, masculinity, leadership, and emotional connection.Mitchell works exclusively with high-performing, career-driven men who feel successful professionally—but disconnected, confused, or powerless at home. He breaks down why men are more medicated, divorced, and emotionally lost than ever before, and how cultural confusion around masculinity is quietly destroying marriages.This episode dives into:Why men default to “fixing” instead of listeningThe wiring differences between men and women (and why it matters)Why 70–90% of divorces are initiated by womenHow emotional disconnection—not money or cheating—ends marriagesThe “Powerful at Work, Powerless at Home” identity crisisParkinson’s Law and a simple productivity system that restores focusHow clarity, community, and legacy thinking transform menWhy generational wealth is about behavior, not moneyIf you’re an entrepreneur, investor, or business owner trying to win at work without losing your family, this episode will hit hard—in the best way.👉 Learn more about Mitchell’s work: https://dadnationco.com👉 Build systems & clarity for your business: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Powerful at work, powerless at home01:30 – Why men are more unhappy than ever03:00 – What Mitchell actually does (home, health, happiness)04:30 – A “good day” for a high-performing husband06:30 – Fitness, mindset & self-leadership07:55 – Parkinson’s Law & instant productivity gains10:00 – Why phones destroy focus & flow state12:45 – Feeling powerful at work but lost at home14:30 – Masculinity confusion & cultural pressure17:00 – The divorce data no one talks about18:45 – Emotional disconnection kills marriages20:15 – Why men fix problems (and why it backfires)24:00 – “Do you want me to fix or listen?”27:00 – Two wake-up calls that changed everything30:00 – Generational wealth ≠ money33:00 – Men’s core needs vs women’s core needs36:00 – Silent erosion vs explosive failure40:30 – Finding your compass after rock bottom42:30 – Clarity, community & the Iron Five45:00 – High Performance Husband program46:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools#Marriage #MensMentalHealth #HighPerformanceMen #MitchellOsmond #RealDealChat #EntrepreneurLife #Masculinity #LeadershipAtHome #Fatherhood #MindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business...
Giuseppe Grammatico explains franchising, AI automation, and how real estate investors use franchises to build predictable cash flow and scale smarter.Full DescriptionIn this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Giuseppe Grammatico, franchise consultant and founder of GG The Franchise Guide, to break down how franchising intersects with real estate investing, cash flow, and AI-powered operations.Giuseppe shares his journey from Wall Street to entrepreneurship, why franchising is often misunderstood, and how “business-in-a-box” models help investors shortcut years of trial and error. He explains how real estate investors can leverage franchises for recession-resistant income, vendor consolidation, and even hybrid landlord-style models like salon suites and property services.The conversation dives deep into franchise due diligence, why lines out the door don’t equal profitability, how to avoid shiny object syndrome, and what investors must look for inside Item 19 disclosures. Giuseppe also explains how AI is transforming franchising—from AI call agents handling 1,000 calls at once to backend automation that reduces staff costs without sacrificing human relationships.If you’re a real estate investor looking to diversify income, stabilize cash flow, or integrate AI into operations, this episode delivers real-world clarity.👉 Learn more & book a free call: https://ggthefranchiseguide.com 👉 Build investor systems & AI automation: https://realdealcrew.comCall to Action: Learn more at https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Concise Timestamps (High-Retention Chapters)00:00 – AI is here (and investors can’t ignore it) 01:15 – From Wall Street to franchising 03:15 – Why franchising isn’t just restaurants 05:00 – Business-in-a-box vs reinventing the wheel 07:00 – Recession-resistant franchise models 09:15 – The biggest mistake new owners make 11:20 – Hiring late & trying to do everything 13:00 – Shiny object syndrome explained 14:45 – Why “busy” doesn’t mean profitable 16:55 – How franchising fits real estate portfolios 19:00 – Hybrid real estate plays (salon suites, services) 21:00 – Property managers, vendors & deal flow 23:30 – Developers using franchises in mixed-use 25:45 – Market saturation & real due diligence 30:10 – How AI is disrupting franchising 34:05 – Using AI without losing human connection 35:45 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools#Franchising #RealEstateInvesting #GiuseppeGrammatico #RealDealChat #CashFlow #AIForBusiness #Entrepreneurship #BusinessSystems #InvestorStrategy #PassiveIncomeRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsitespan...
Jose Berlanga explains how he created his own real estate market, why focus beats growth, and the costly mistakes developers make chasing trends.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Jose Berlanga, a veteran real estate developer and entrepreneur, to break down how he created demand where none existed—and why focus, patience, and clarity matter more than chasing hot markets.Jose shares how he started developing inner-city Houston neighborhoods when they were considered “unbuildable,” why fear actually guided his best decisions, and how saturating a small area with consistent product helped him establish pricing power and brand recognition long before the market caught up.The conversation dives deep into developer psychology, long real estate cycles, why chasing higher price points almost derailed his business, and the hard-earned leadership lessons he learned building (and rebuilding) teams. Jose also delivers one of the clearest frameworks you’ve heard on hiring, focus, and avoiding shiny object syndrome as an entrepreneur.This is a masterclass in long-term thinking for developers, investors, and business owners.👉 Learn more about Jose: https://joseberlanga.com👉 Build systems, operations & AI leverage: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Creating a real estate market from nothing01:30 – Why inner-city Houston was “unbuildable”03:30 – Fear as a competitive advantage05:30 – Why he saturated one small area on purpose08:30 – Making your own land more expensive10:00 – Focus vs shiny object syndrome12:30 – Why chasing higher price points backfires15:30 – Long real estate cycles investors ignore17:30 – The biggest hiring mistake founders make20:00 – Hiring too fast vs waiting too long22:30 – Why saving people can destroy companies25:00 – Clarity of roles beats “shadowing”27:00 – Building teams around weaknesses29:00 – Learning the industry before scaling31:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, advice, books & tools#RealEstateDevelopment #JoseBerlanga #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #DeveloperMindset #Entrepreneurship #BusinessFocus #RealEstateStrategy #LeadershipLessons #LongTermThinkingRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTube
David Morgan explains gold, silver, real estate, and why the dollar is losing trust—plus how investors protect wealth when the monetary system breaks.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with David Morgan, founder of The Morgan Report and one of the most respected analysts in precious metals, to unpack what’s really happening inside the global monetary system.David shares how his fascination with money started as a child noticing the difference between silver coins and debased currency, and how that curiosity led to more than four decades analyzing markets, banking systems, and hard assets.The conversation dives deep into why gold and silver function as trust-based assets, how real estate behaves differently in inflationary vs high-rate environments, and why rising debt, stablecoins, and global de-dollarization matter to everyday investors. David also explains where crypto fits (and doesn’t), how to actually buy precious metals safely, common myths investors believe, and why unrealistic expectations hurt long-term returns.You’ll also hear the story behind his documentary Silver Sunrise, lessons from building a long-running research business, and why critical thinking—not fear—is the most valuable investment skill today.👉 Learn more & book a call: TheMorganReport.com/realdeal👉 Build investor systems & automation: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – A silver coin that changed everything01:00 – Discovering fractional reserve banking02:35 – Finding your calling early03:30 – Why real estate is the ultimate hard asset05:10 – Gold vs real estate: performance & liquidity06:25 – Why the Fed failed its core mission07:45 – Debt, trust & the dollar’s decline09:10 – Stablecoins, crypto & hidden buyers of U.S. debt11:40 – Can crypto return to a gold standard?14:05 – When gold wins and real estate struggles15:45 – How David built The Morgan Report18:30 – Why the metals business is harder today20:45 – How to actually buy gold & silver23:40 – Myths about silver prices & manipulation26:55 – The Silver Sunrise documentary29:20 – Philosophy, money & human behavior31:25 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools#GoldInvesting #SilverInvesting #HardAssets #DavidMorgan #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #InflationHedge #WealthProtection #MonetarySystem #InvestorMindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTube
David C. Barnett breaks down buying small businesses vs real estate, the risks investors overlook, and how to build resilient, cash-flowing companies.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with David C. Barnett, author of The Business Fortress and one of the most respected voices in small business acquisition, to unpack the real differences between buying businesses and investing in real estate.David shares his journey from business brokerage to banking to building a global advisory firm helping buyers and sellers avoid catastrophic mistakes. He explains why business brokerage is fundamentally broken, how leverage cuts both ways in small businesses, and why “absentee ownership” is one of the most dangerous myths investors believe.You’ll learn why operational leverage can destroy profits overnight, how liquidity (not growth) determines survival, why balance sheets matter more than P&Ls, and how long-term content creation (YouTube, books, email) quietly outperforms flashy marketing tactics.This episode is a must-watch for real estate investors considering business acquisitions—and for entrepreneurs who want to build a business fortress that survives downturns and exits cleanly.👉 Learn more & grab the book: DavidCBarnett.com 👉 Build systems & scale smarter: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Why business school doesn’t teach entrepreneurship 01:00 – Why business brokerage is broken 02:45 – The cash-flow trap brokers don’t tell you about 04:30 – Why this book had to be rewritten 06:00 – Balance sheet vs P&L thinking 08:00 – Liquidity problems & sleepless nights 10:00 – Why growth can make businesses fragile 12:00 – Why he left brokerage for banking 14:00 – Helping buyers without brokers 15:30 – Business leverage vs real estate leverage 17:00 – Operational leverage explained (simple math) 19:00 – Why absentee ownership is a myth 21:00 – The “regional manager” reality 22:45 – Single dad, time freedom & entrepreneurship 24:30 – YouTube before it was cool 26:00 – Why vanity metrics don’t matter 27:30 – Content for buyers, not creators 29:00 – Marketing systems that compound 31:00 – Why investors start the wrong businesses 33:00 – Talent, management & hidden complexity 35:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving system#BusinessAcquisition #SmallBusinessBuying #DavidCBarnett #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #Entrepreneurship #BuyingABusiness #InvestorMindset #BusinessSystems #CashFlowRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple Podcastsa...
Brent Kesler explains infinite banking, how he paid off nearly $1M in debt, and why the wealthy recycle money using the Money Multiplier method.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss welcomes back Brent Kesler, founder of The Money Multiplier, to break down one of the most misunderstood wealth strategies in real estate and investing: infinite banking.Brent shares how he and his wife eliminated $984,711 of third-party debt in just 39 months—without changing cash flow, working harder, or taking on more risk. He explains how specially designed whole life policies allow investors to recycle and recapture money they’re already spending, turning expenses into long-term wealth.The conversation covers the origins of the infinite banking concept (Nelson Nash), why many advisors misunderstand it, how real estate investors use it to fund deals repeatedly, and why mindset traps like Arrival Syndrome and Parkinson’s Law keep people broke.If you want a proven system the wealthy have used for over 250 years—and a way to fund real estate without losing control of your money—this episode delivers clarity and conviction.👉 Learn more: TheMoneyMultiplier.com👉 Build better systems with AI & automation: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – $984K in debt & the decision that changed everything01:15 – What is infinite banking (simple explanation)03:00 – Why the wealthy recycle money04:40 – Nelson Nash & the origin of the strategy06:15 – Why most advisors don’t understand this07:50 – Adding ONE step to your finances09:30 – Using infinite banking for real estate deals11:00 – Car example: getting the car and the money12:45 – Real investor case study (Phoenix example)15:00 – Paying off $1M in debt in 39 months17:00 – Why people don’t believe it at first18:45 – Whole life vs “life insurance” myths20:15 – Tax-free growth & keeping control23:45 – Arrival Syndrome: why people tune out26:30 – Parkinson’s Law & lifestyle inflation29:45 – Why raises don’t create wealth31:50 – Mindset, systems & mentors33:40 – Biggest time saver: recorded systems36:00 – Final advice for investors#InfiniteBanking #MoneyMultiplier #BrentKesler #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #WealthBuilding #PassiveIncome #PrivateMoney #CashFlow #FinancialFreedom #InvestorMindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple Podcasts
Martine Richardson explains how to buy rental properties with no money down, use private lenders, negotiate smarter, and build cash flow for freedom.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Martine Richardson, real estate investor, lender strategist, and coach, to break down how everyday investors can buy rental properties with no money down—even in today’s market.Martine shares her journey from getting fired at Fannie Mae and having her car repossessed to building long-term freedom through rental real estate. She explains how wholesaling led her to rentals, why private lenders are the key to scaling, and how strong relationships consistently outperform cold marketing.This episode is packed with real negotiation tactics, including how Martine walks into every house with five offers, why framing offers as questions works, and how putting contracts in writing (with deadlines) gets sellers to call back.You’ll also learn how she screens tenants to avoid headaches, why free property management tools beat paid software early on, how to overcome limiting beliefs that stall deals, and how her students are closing cash-flowing rentals with zero of their own money.If you want rentals, cash flow, and freedom — this is a must-listen.👉 Learn more about Martine: lender.martinerichardson.com 👉 Build systems & scale smarter: https://realdealcrew.com ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 – Fired, repossessed & forced to rethink everything01:30 – From Fannie Mae to real estate investing03:00 – Why wholesaling led to rentals04:30 – The rental “light bulb” moment06:15 – Buying rentals with no money down07:50 – Private lenders: the real key to scale09:30 – Why relationship-based deal flow wins11:00 – Five-offer negotiation strategy13:00 – Turning low offers into conversations15:00 – Why written contracts trigger callbacks16:45 – Free property management tools that work18:45 – Scaling pain: “contractor babysitting”20:15 – How to screen tenants the smart way22:00 – Landlord verification (95% accuracy)23:45 – Limiting beliefs that kill deals25:30 – Confidence, fear & execution27:45 – Coaching, lender communities & deal flow30:00 – Student case study: $0 in, $600/month cash flow33:40 – Rapid Fire: lies, advice, books & tools#RealEstateInvesting #RentalProperties #NoMoneyDown #MartineRichardson #RealDealChat #PassiveIncome #PrivateMoney #CreativeFinance #BuyAndHold #CashFlowRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeli...
Paul do Campo explains why real estate investors lose deals in follow-up, how value-based messaging works, and why human connection beats automation alone.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Paul do Campo, founder of REI Omni Drip, to break down one of the most overlooked profit centers in real estate investing: follow-up.Paul explains why most investors overspend on lead generation while leaving massive money trapped inside their CRM. He shares how value-based follow-up, storytelling, and multichannel communication (email, SMS, and direct mail) dramatically increase seller responses—without sounding salesy or spammy.The conversation dives deep into:Why “Are you still interested in selling?” no longer worksHow stories outperform sales scriptsWhy email open rates are down—and what to do insteadHow multichannel follow-up revives cold and unresponsive leadsWhy AI tools are becoming commoditized—and how to stay humanThe real reason investors stop following up (hint: emotions)This episode is a masterclass in follow-up psychology, systems, and long-term deal conversion for wholesalers, flippers, and real estate investors.👉 Learn more about Paul’s system: REIOmniDrip.com👉 Want help implementing follow-up, AI, and automation? Visit https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Why sellers avoid the open market01:00 – Why follow-up is the real opportunity02:00 – Lead gen vs follow-up (where deals are lost)03:30 – Why “hot, warm, cold” sequences don’t work05:00 – Value-based follow-up vs sales pressure06:30 – Using stories to drive seller responses08:00 – Email open rates are down—now what?09:30 – Why multichannel follow-up wins11:00 – How many touches sellers really need13:00 – Aggressive early follow-up (done right)15:00 – Emotions sabotaging investor follow-up17:00 – CRM gold most investors ignore19:00 – SMS myths, compliance & reputation21:30 – AI follow-up is becoming commoditized23:00 – Why human connection will win long-term25:30 – Rapid Fire: work ethic, books & tools#RealEstateInvesting #LeadFollowUp #WholesalingRealEstate #PaulDoCampo #RealDealChat #REIOmniDrip #RealEstateMarketing #InvestorSystems #AIForRealEstate #SellerLeads #AutomationRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube Musica...
Jack McColl shares how entrepreneurs can access $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit, build capital the right way, and scale without giving up equity.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Jack McColl, entrepreneur and founder of Credit Stacking, to break down how investors and business owners can get $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit—even with no business credit history.Jack shares how he discovered business credit seven years into entrepreneurship, why personal credit unlocks huge business limits, and how he used $500K in approvals to build multiple successful companies. He explains exactly how to structure applications, build banking relationships, avoid common mistakes, and leverage 0% cards safely for real estate, e-com, or any cash-flowing venture.Jack also discusses partnership lessons, how to avoid giving up equity too early, how to use business lines of credit to extend your 0% period, and how automations + virtual assistants helped him scale.This is one of the most actionable credit episodes you’ve ever published.What You’ll LearnHow Jack got $500K in business credit approvalsWhy personal credit matters more than business creditHow to build banking relationships with the right institutionsHow to avoid equity partnerships by using creditRisks + rewards of leveraging business credit the right wayHow 0% cards actually work (12–18 months)How to extend 0% periods using a business line of creditHow to structure your first applicationsThe biggest credit mistakes people makeHow to use VAs and automations to scale your business📍 Get Jack’s training → go.creditstacking.com/podcast💡 Want AI-powered systems for your REI business? → RealDealCrew.comTIMESTAMPS00:00 – How Jack discovered business credit01:17 – From 19-year-old entrepreneur to 8 ventures02:26 – Why most entrepreneurs don’t know about business credit03:29 – How he got $500K in approvals04:38 – Myths about debt & leveraging 0% credit05:47 – Why personal credit matters more than business credit07:26 – How to get $50K–$250K in 0% credit limits08:50 – Why big banks beat local banks for 0% funding10:02 – Early partnership failure & buying out partners12:08 – The 4 ways to fund a business13:26 – Why 0% cards beat loans & equity14:32 – Extreme sports, mindset & pushing limits16:15 – Why timelines create execution & reduce procrastination18:11 – The 4 ingredients to freedom: product, money, systems, people19:42 – Automations, VAs & eliminating repetitive tasks21:30 – Extending 0% periods using business lines of credit23:12 – Advanced strategies to rotate credit & reset the 0% clock25:20 – Why you must prepare capital before you need it27:00 – How parents can help kids build credit29:20 – Rapid Fire: lies, lessons, books & tools#BusinessCredit #CreditStacking #JackMcColl #EntrepreneurFunding #RealDealChat #0PercentCredit #AccessToCapital #RealEstateFunding #ScalingBusiness #VirtualAssistants #AutomationRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation....
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TH3N0RTHSID3

"Predictibly Irrational" authors were proven to having fabricated the results of their studies.

May 14th
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Massab9

Yeep, you guysbare talking about me for sure.. 3 years since reading Richdad Poordad and still in analysis paralesis.

Feb 13th
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Massab9

Awe maan, I loved this episode.. I love it is probably more accurate. Having a young family of 4 and going through the hardships of the beginning stages, this episode hit home run! Nice job!

Jan 2nd
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Massab9

Yes, I'll have to Re-listen for more than 6-7 times on this😅👌🏽💪🏽

Dec 13th
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Massab9

Eeehm.. Have I gone mad? Is me or does anyone else also hear the crickets at 07:31 til 07:35? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Oct 17th
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