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Scalable Law Podcast
Author: Caralee Fontenele
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Want to know how to scale your law firm without burnout? And have more profit in your pocket and time in your calendar?
Join Caralee Fontenele, a successful law firm owner and the leader of an incredible global community full of ambitious law firm owners, to discover the systems and strategies that work to scale your own legal business.
From offline and online marketing to team, scaling, mindset and more, you’ll learn the essential elements for building a massively profitable law firm and hugely happy life where you can do more of what you love. For more help scaling your law firm and creating more freedom, visit www.scalablelaw.com.
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Episode Summary
Building and scaling a law firm isn’t just about winning more clients or hiring more staff, it’s about creating consistent, predictable visibility in your market. And the easiest way to do that is through organic marketing.
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, Caralee dives into what organic marketing actually involves, why it’s the most underused growth lever in the legal industry, and how it can set your firm up for long-term success.
Most law firm owners overlook organic marketing because it doesn’t deliver overnight results, but it does deliver lasting ones. With the right strategies, you can build a powerful presence that generates leads 24/7, positions you as the go-to expert, and fuels your revenue growth without burning cash on ads.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
What organic marketing is and why it matters for law firms
The key organic channels that drive consistent client enquiries
Why organic strategies build long-term momentum that compounds
How to start implementing organic marketing with simple, weekly actions
How strong organic marketing boosts the ROI of your paid campaigns
My Key Takeaways for You
Organic marketing is the lowest-hanging fruit for law firms because it uses assets you already have such as your website, expertise, and relationships — rather than relying on a large ad budget.
Content created now can keep attracting clients for years, creating compounding returns over time.
It builds trust and positions you as an authority, which increases conversion rates and reduces the need for “hard selling.”
A strong organic presence makes any future paid ads perform better by improving brand awareness and trust.
Start small and stay consistent: optimise your website, update your Google Business Profile, post weekly, and nurture your email list.
Resources and Links
Scalable Law Website
Download the free Law Firm Freedom & Profit Audit
Listen to this related episode: Unlocking Law Firm Growth: Marketing, Hiring, and Scaling with Seth Price (EP 170)
Ready to Grow Your Firm Organically?
If this episode sparked ideas for your firm, start small, choose just one organic marketing action this week, whether it’s updating your website, posting on social media, or asking a happy client for a Google review. Tiny steps create big momentum when done consistently.
If you’re ready to build a stronger organic marketing engine for your law firm and attract consistent clients without relying on ads, join the Accelerator program and start creating your growth strategy from the ground up.
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Episode Summary
Building and scaling a law firm isn’t just about attracting clients and delivering legal work. It is also about having the right people in the right roles. In this episode, I talk about the EOS® principle of Right People, Right Seats and why it is such a powerful tool for law firm owners.
I’ll walk you through how to evaluate your team using three simple questions, the importance of clear reporting lines, and what happens when the firm owner is not in the right seat. If you have ever felt like your team structure is holding you back, this episode will help you see where the gaps are and how to fix them.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
What “Right People, Right Seats” means in a law firm
The three questions to ask about every role: Get it, Want it, Capacity
How accountability charts prevent bottlenecks
Why values matter more than skills when choosing the right person
When the owner is not the best person for a particular role
How we use this exercise inside the Accelerator program
My Key Takeaways for You
You don’t need to do everything at once. Growth is about doing the right things for the stage you’re in.
A $300k firm doesn’t need executive dashboards, and a $3M firm shouldn’t be operating off spreadsheets.
When you know where you are on the roadmap, you can make decisions with confidence, reduce overwhelm, and build a firm that gives you freedom as well as profit.
Resources and Links
Scalable Law Accelerator Program – Work with me to map your accountability chart and create a team that supports growth
Traction by Gino Wickman – the book that introduced the EOS® framework
Ready to Restructure Your Firm?
Inside Accelerator, I help law firm owners map out their teams so they can clearly see where the right people are in the right seats and where changes need to happen. This exercise alone can give you clarity and direction that takes away so much stress.
If you are ready to step into a stronger leadership role and build a team structure that works, join Accelerator here.
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Episode Summary
When I first started my firm, I had no roadmap. I worked hard, said yes to everything, and pushed forward with trial and error. Looking back, I wish I had a clear framework to show me where to focus and what systems to build at each stage.
That’s exactly why I created the Law Firm Roadmap. In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I’m sharing the five stages of growth that every law firm goes through, the challenges you’ll face at each stage, and the systems, people, and strategies you need to move forward with confidence.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
The five stages of law firm growth I’ve identified through my own experience and coaching hundreds of firm owners: Startup, Survival, Stability, Scale, and Success.
Why every stage has its own challenges — and how knowing your stage helps you focus on the right priorities.
The five pillars of growth I guide my clients through: attracting clients, numbers & pricing, systems & processes, team & people, and legal service delivery.
How I navigated these stages myself, including the systems that saved me time, the hires that transformed my firm, and the shifts in mindset that kept me moving forward.
Why trying to “jump ahead” is one of the biggest mistakes firm owners make — and how to avoid it.
My Key Takeaways for You
You don’t need to do everything at once. Growth is about doing the right things for the stage you’re in.
A $300k firm doesn’t need executive dashboards, and a $3M firm shouldn’t be operating off spreadsheets.
When you know where you are on the roadmap, you can make decisions with confidence, reduce overwhelm, and build a firm that gives you freedom as well as profit.
Resources and Links
Want to see how the Law Firm Roadmap applies to your practice? Join me inside the Scalable Law Accelerator Program where we help law firm owners reduce their hours, systemise their firms, and grow profitably.
I’d love to see you at Law Biz Con 2026 on the Gold Coast for two days of strategies, speakers, and connections that will change the way you run your firm.
Growing a Firm is Easier When We Do it Together
Share this episode with a colleague who could use some clarity on their roadmap, and don’t forget to follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to keep scaling alongside us.
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Episode Summary
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I’m joined by my good friend and past Accelerator member, Kristen Porter. Kristen is the founder of Oh No Legal, a law firm that grew nationally during the COVID years, and more recently, she launched Zenovate Marketing, a digital marketing agency built specifically to help law firm owners grow.
Kristen shares her journey of starting her firm out of necessity, why she chose to niche down into the real estate industry, and how that decision not only made her practice easier to run but also made her marketing more powerful. We also talk about the frustrations law firm owners face when outsourcing marketing, and why she created Zenovate to be a trusted solution that understands the legal profession.
If you want to hear how niching, list building, and smart digital strategies can change the game for your firm, you’ll love this conversation.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why Kristen decided to start her own law firm and how it grew quickly through digital marketing
How list building, webinars, and lead magnets transformed her pipeline without relying on referrals
Why niching made her law practice easier to run and more profitable
How different client personalities within one niche call for different service models
What led Kristen to launch Zenovate Marketing and why law firms need marketing support that actually understands the profession
The importance of deep brand positioning and copywriting for law firm growth and freedom
Quotes from the Episode
“Our law firm growth is totally dependent on our digital marketing. For a long time, we didn’t even use paid ads, we built everything through organic list building and partnerships.”
“Nicheing makes everything easier. Your practice becomes smoother, your marketing clearer, and other professionals see you as the expert.”
“Copy is what converts. Your logo and design make you look professional, but the words you use are what actually bring in the right clients.”
Links and Resources
Learn more about Kristen’s marketing agency: Zenovate Marketing
Connect with me at Scalable Law for programs and resources on law firm growth and law firm freedom
Explore the Scalable Business Lounge for support, training, and a community of law firm owners
Share the Value
If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a fellow law firm owner who would find it valuable. And don’t forget to hit follow on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you never miss an episode.
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Episode Summary
Bringing a new team member into your law firm should make life easier — not harder. Yet for many law firm owners, onboarding turns into an exhausting cycle of explaining, fixing, and micromanaging. The real problem? You’re running your business from your head, not from systems.
In this episode, I’m breaking down why skipping documented processes in onboarding is one of the biggest mistakes law firm owners make, how it creates bottlenecks, frustrates your team, and keeps you stuck working harder than you should.
I’ll also walk you through the exact steps to fix it so you can create a clear, confident, and repeatable onboarding experience — one that empowers your team and frees up your time.
Key Segments
The onboarding trap most law firm owners fall into
Why “just follow me and watch” is not a strategy
The hidden cost of keeping processes in your head
My 3-step system to onboard without the chaos
How systemised onboarding improves culture and profitability
Links & Resources from This Episode
Free Resource: Law Firm Freedom & Profit Audit — identify where your bottlenecks and inefficiencies are hiding.
Read: How to Build SOPs That Actually Work — step-by-step guide to documenting processes in your law firm.
Connect with Me on LinkedIn: Caralee Fontenele — join the conversation about scaling law firms with less stress.
Scalable Law Website: Coaching, resources, and systems for law firm owners.
My Takeaway
The truth is, your law firm doesn’t grow by adding more hours to your week — it grows when you build systems that work without you.
Document your core processes. Set crystal-clear expectations. Train, then trust. That’s how you stop being the bottleneck and start leading a team that can thrive on their own.
If this episode hit home for you
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Episode Summary:
Let’s be real. Running a law firm can feel like an emotional rollercoaster. Some mornings, I walked into the office feeling confident and strong. Other days? Total imposter syndrome. In this episode, I open up about the inner battles I faced as a law firm owner and how mindset—not marketing, not systems—was the biggest thing holding me back.
I talk about the strongholds we carry as business owners. The beliefs that sound logical but keep us small. “If I don’t do it, it won’t get done right.” “I’ll never find good staff.” “I’m just not good at marketing.” Sound familiar?
This episode is about breaking those beliefs and taking back control so you can scale without sacrificing your sanity.
Key Segments:
The real reason I didn’t feel confident, even after 15 years in practice
When working harder stopped working
The most common mental strongholds I see in law firm owners
The Thought Audit: a simple but powerful mindset tool
Why action—not affirmation—is what rewires your thinking
A client story that proves your beliefs can shift everything
If your business is moving in the direction of your strongest thoughts… where is it going?
My Biggest Takeaway:
Your business will never outgrow your mindset. When I finally challenged the stories I was telling myself—and started acting like the leader I wanted to become—that’s when everything changed. It wasn’t easy. But it was worth it.
Links & Resources:
Free Scalable Law Firm Growth Roadmap
Book a Discovery Call with Me
More Episodes of the Scalable Law Podcast
Your Next Step:
I want to challenge you to do a Thought Audit today.
Ask yourself: What belief is keeping me small? Then take one action that proves it wrong. Just one. And if you’re brave enough, share it on Instagram and tag me @caraleefontenele—I’d love to cheer you on.
Because when you shift your thinking, everything in your business starts to shift with it.
Loved this episode?
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Episode Summary
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I share one of the biggest challenges law firm owners face: how to let go without losing control. If you’ve ever felt like your firm can’t run without you—approving every bill, answering endless team questions, and constantly putting out fires—this episode is for you.
I dive into why holding on too tightly will keep you stuck and how you can start creating a business that runs smoothly without you micromanaging every single detail. From building the right team to implementing systems and processes, I show you the practical steps that transformed my law firm and have helped many others do the same.
Key Segments
Why Letting Go Feels Impossible – The emotional and practical reasons law firm owners resist delegating.
The Hidden Cost of Control – How holding on to everything yourself turns you into the bottleneck.
The Power of Teams and Systems – Why having the right people in the right seats and well-documented SOPs is the real key to scaling.
Creating a Law Firm That Runs Without You – How I went from chaos to clarity in my own firm and how you can do the same.
Your Next Step – Why this is a gradual process, but one that will give you freedom, profit, and peace of mind.
My Takeaway
Letting go doesn’t mean losing control—it means gaining a sustainable business. When you put the right team and systems in place, you no longer have to be the engine of your firm. You can step back, focus on leading instead of firefighting, and finally have the freedom you wanted when you started your practice.
Call to Action
If you’re ready to stop being the bottleneck in your law firm and want to build a business that runs without you, join me inside Scalable Law. We’ll help you implement the systems and processes you need so you can create a firm that is profitable, sustainable, and doesn’t rely on you for every decision.
Apply here to take the first step toward a law firm that gives you more freedom, more profit, and less chaos.
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In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I dive into a game-changing topic that comes up time and time again with the firm owners I coach: When is the right time to hire a practice manager in a law firm, and what kind of impact can they have on your growth and operations?
If you’re constantly fielding team questions, managing leave requests, approving every invoice, or buried in admin instead of focusing on strategy, it may be time to level up your law firm management. Hiring a skilled practice or operations manager could be one of the most pivotal decisions you make to scale effectively and reclaim your time as the business owner.
Episode Summary
In this episode, I share exactly when I believe it’s the right time to hire a practice manager in a law firm—typically when your revenue is in the $500K to $1M range. I break down the key responsibilities they can take off your plate, how this hire supports stronger law firm management, and how bringing in the right person allowed me to step back from the day-to-day of running my own firm.
You’ll learn how to spot the signs that you're overdue for this game-changing hire—and what to look for in a practice manager who can help your firm grow without you becoming the bottleneck.
Key Segments
When to Hire a Practice Manager in Your Law Firm
Thinking about hiring a practice manager? If you're hitting growth ceilings or drowning in daily operations, it might be time.
Signs It’s Time to Hire:
You're no longer the best person to handle day-to-day law firm management.
You’re overwhelmed, juggling people, clients, admin, and operations.
You're ready to scale, but need leadership support to do it sustainably.
What a Practice Manager Actually Does
A great practice manager in a law firm isn't just admin support—they’re your operational engine:
Team Management: Handles HR, recruitment, performance reviews, and team check-ins.
Client Experience: Improves intake processes, addresses complaints, and maintains service standards.
Systems Oversight: Manages software, streamlines workflows, and ensures compliance.
Operations & Admin: Takes care of invoicing, reporting, supplier management, and more.
Leadership Support: Acts as your second-in-command, solving issues before they hit your desk.
The Real Impact for Law Firm Owners
Bringing in a practice manager creates space for growth and clarity:
More time for strategy, vision, and high-value work
Freedom from operational distractions and stress
A scalable team structure with stronger accountability
Better culture, performance, and profit
Who to Hire
When hiring for this critical law firm management role, look for:
Strong leadership and operations experience
A proactive, solutions-first mindset
Confidence to manage up—not just follow instructions
Law firm experience is a bonus, but not mandatory
Hiring a practice manager could be the most important step you take to scale your firm without burning out. Think of them as the engine that powers your growth while you lead from the front.
Takeaway
Hiring a practice manager in my law firm was one of the most pivotal decisions I’ve made. It completely transformed how I operated, freeing up my time, clearing mental clutter, and allowing me to shift from being stuck in the day-to-day to focusing on real law firm management and growth.
If you’re buried in admin, constantly putting out fires, and craving more freedom and sustainable progress, this is the strategic hire that can move you from overwhelmed to in control.
Links and Resources
Book a Strategy Call with me.
Learn more about our programs at Scalable Law.
Connect with me on LinkedIn.
If you’re ready to map out your next strategic hire and build a law firm that doesn’t revolve solely around you, reach out to us. Inside our programs, we guide you through hiring the right practice manager and structuring your firm for scalable success.
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In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I explore one of the most powerful tools for law firm management and long-term growth: Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs).
If you’re looking for a sustainable way to grow your practice, reduce overwhelm, and delegate with confidence, this episode is for you. Most law firms rely heavily on their practice management software—but without the right law firm SOPs, your systems are incomplete. SOPs are what create consistency, improve onboarding, and ultimately allow you to scale your law firm without it depending solely on you.
Key Segments
Understanding What Law Firm SOPs Actually Are
SOPs are step-by-step documented processes that outline how tasks are completed in your law firm. While software like LEAP or Smokeball helps manage day-to-day operations, it’s your SOPs that provide the structure and direction your team needs to use those tools effectively.
The Cost of Operating Without SOPs
Without documented SOPs, your firm relies too heavily on individual memory and inconsistent training. This leads to inconsistent service delivery, bottlenecks, and team burnout. SOPs are essential to reduce risk, improve performance, and ensure business continuity when key team members are absent or move on.
The Areas in Your Firm That Need SOPs
SOPs shouldn’t just exist for legal work—they’re critical across all departments. From opening and closing files, billing and trust accounting, to handling client intake, social media, HR onboarding, and document processing, every part of your practice needs structure to scale sustainably.
Why SOPs Are Essential to Scaling a Law Firm
SOPs allow you to create consistency, reduce duplication, and delegate tasks without confusion. They support faster onboarding, improve team accountability, and give you the freedom to step back from the day-to-day without quality slipping. When it comes to how to scale a law firm, SOPs provide the operational backbone that allows growth without chaos.
How We Help Law Firm Owners Build SOPs
Inside the Scalable Law Accelerator, we work closely with law firm owners to create SOPs that support high-performing teams and smooth internal operations. We provide templates, training, and support to roll out SOPs across every area of the business—helping you move from reactive to strategic.
Your Next Step to Systemise and Scale
If your law firm is still relying on informal processes or ad-hoc communication, start by documenting just one core task this week. Whether it’s onboarding a new client or preparing a brief, take the first step in building a firm that runs on systems, not people.
My Takeaway
Building a scalable law firm doesn’t start with flashy software or hiring more people—it starts with clarity. And clarity comes from systems. What I’ve seen time and time again is that law firms that invest in creating and implementing law firm SOPs grow faster, experience less chaos, and give their owners more freedom.
If your firm still relies on memory, verbal instructions, or "how we've always done it", you're holding back your potential. Documented systems don’t restrict you—they liberate you.
SOPs are what allow you to lead, not just manage.
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Episode Summary
The start of a new financial year is the perfect time to pause, reflect, and ask a powerful question:Where is my law firm leaking time, money, or energy – and what can I do about it?
In this episode of The Scalable Law Podcast, I walk you through the exact process I’ve used in my own firm – and now teach inside my Accelerator program – to help law firm owners like you identify inefficiencies, reduce overwhelm, and create more profit without relying solely on you.
If you're wearing too many hats, constantly in reactive mode, or wondering why your profits don’t reflect how hard you’re working, this episode will help you get clear on what’s holding you back – and where to focus your energy next.
Key Segments
Why now is the ideal time to diagnose bottlenecks in your practice
The 3 critical levers in every firm: Time, Team, and Tech
How trying to fix everything at once causes burnout (and what to do instead)
The power of 90-day planning to drive momentum and profit
Time-saving strategies I use in my firm – including delegation frameworks, batching, and CEO days
How to build a high-performing legal team with KPIs, systems, and leadership
The role of smart, integrated legal tech in scaling your practice
Tools and systems that free up your team, reduce admin, and improve client service
Takeaway
“Going deeper in your business before you go wider is what truly unlocks sustainable, scalable growth – and gives you the freedom you started your firm for in the first place.”
Here are a few questions I encourage you to ask yourself as you listen:
Am I the bottleneck in my firm – and what’s it costing me?
Which area is my biggest constraint right now: Time, Team, or Tech?
What’s one focused change I can make over the next 90 days that will move the needle?
Want Help Putting This Into Practice?
If you're ready to create a law firm that doesn't rely on you, the Accelerator Program is open for enrollment right now. Over 12 months, we’ll work together to:
Streamline your time
Build your systems
Empower your team
And implement the tech you need to scale
You’ll come out the other side with a business that gives you freedom, profit, and control, not just more to do.
If you’re still the one holding everything together, it’s time to change that.
Save your seat now.
Links & Resources
Book a Strategy Call with Me.
Download the FREE Law Firm Freedom Audit – Takes 10 minutes and reveals your biggest growth opportunities.
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Episode Summary
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I’m sharing how you can strategically grow your law firm by building a strong network of referral partners through LinkedIn. Whether you run a B2B or B2C firm, this approach works—and it’s easier than you might think.
I'll walk you through how to optimise your LinkedIn profile, find the right professionals to connect with, start authentic conversations, and turn online relationships into real-world referrals. This is one of the simplest and most effective ways to scale your practice sustainably.
Key Segments
1. Why Referral Marketing Still Wins
I break down why referrals convert better than ads or organic content—and why being intentional about your referral strategy is a game-changer.
2. Optimising Your LinkedIn Profile
You’ll learn how to update your profile so that it clearly speaks to who you help and the problems you solve, making it more appealing to potential referral partners.
3. Finding and Connecting with Ideal Referrers
I'll show you how to use LinkedIn’s search features to find professionals who share your ideal client and exactly what to say when reaching out.
4. Turning Connections into Real Conversations
I’ll explain how to move your LinkedIn relationships offline through casual Zoom chats or coffee catch-ups to build trust without being salesy.
5. Creating Content That Keeps You Top-of-Mind
From simple posts to newsletters, I walk you through how to stay visible and relevant so your network actually remembers what you do—and sends referrals your way.
6. Goal Setting for Real Results
I'll share my 100-20-4 monthly outreach framework that, when done consistently, can give you 48 high-quality referral relationships in a year.
Takeaway
LinkedIn is a goldmine for law firm growth—but only if you’re intentional.You don’t need a huge ad budget or to spend hours online. Just one hour a week can change everything. Build connections, post helpful content, nurture relationships, and your referrals will grow naturally.
Links & Resources
Book a Strategy Call with Me.
Create Your LinkedIn Banner with Canva.
Connect with Me on LinkedIn.
Download the FREE Law Firm Freedom Audit – Takes 10 minutes and reveals your biggest growth opportunities.
Imagine what your law firm could look like a year from now—with the right support and systems in place.
If this strategy speaks to you and you want to take it further, let’s chat!
Book a free strategy call with me and I’ll show you how Scalable Law can help you build a firm that not only grows—but gives you more time, freedom, and profit. Book Now You don’t have to do this alone. Let’s scale your law firm together.
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Episode Summary:
Running a law firm shouldn’t mean sacrificing your time, your profit, or your peace of mind. In this solo episode, I break down the Law Firm Freedom Audit—a proven diagnostic tool designed to help law firm owners identify exactly where their practice is leaking time, profit, or control.
Whether you’re deep in the trenches or already on your growth path, this episode will help you uncover hidden inefficiencies and give you a clear roadmap toward building a scalable, sustainable firm.
Key Segment: Understanding My Freedom & Profit Score
When I took the Law Firm Freedom Audit, I realised the number I got wasn’t just a score—it was a mirror. It reflected how sustainable, profitable, and scalable my law firm really was. Here’s what I learned about what each score range means:
110–140: The Scalable Zone
I’ve built something solid. The systems are working, the team is in sync, and best of all—my business doesn’t depend solely on me anymore. There’s freedom here, and it feels good.
Next move: Now’s the time to scale with intention. The foundation is set—it’s time to go bigger, smarter.
85–109: A Solid Start, But Still a Bit Scrappy
Things are moving in the right direction, but I can feel where the cracks are. A bit of stress creeps in, and profits don’t quite match the effort I’m putting in. It’s frustrating, but fixable.
Next move: I need to step back, identify what’s slowing me down—whether it’s clunky systems, role confusion, or missed opportunities—and start tightening things up.
60–84: I’m the Operator, and It’s Wearing Me Down
Let’s be honest—if I take a break, everything pauses. I’m juggling too much, and it’s exhausting. The business works, but only because I’m pushing hard behind the scenes.
Next move: This is my sign to stop doing it all myself. I need to delegate, build systems, and make the shift from being the operator to becoming the owner.
Below 60: This Is My Wake-Up Call
If I’m here, I already know things aren’t working. I’m doing everything and burning out fast. Profits are thin, and there’s no structure holding things together. Growth? It feels out of reach right now.
Next move: I need to pause. Reassess. And rebuild—with purpose. This isn’t failure—it’s a signal that something needs to change, for me and for the future of my firm.
Takeaways:
Why staying in “operator mode” is holding your firm back from real growth
How to score your firm’s performance across 5 critical areas:
Leadership & Time Management
Systems & Processes
Team & Delegation
Financial Control & Profit
Personal Wellbeing & Lifestyle
What your Freedom & Profit Score means—and what to do next
The link between system gaps and burnout (and how to fix both)
How to take action immediately to shift from survival to strategy
Resources & Links Mentioned:
Download the FREE Law Firm Freedom Audit – Takes 10 minutes and reveals your biggest growth opportunities.
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If you’re ready to lead like a CEO—not a case manager—and want a firm that runs without depending on you for every decision, this episode is your starting point.
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Episode Summary:
In this solo episode of The Scalable Law Podcast, I’m getting real with you about what happens after you cross the million-dollar revenue mark in your firm.
Here’s the truth: scaling to seven figures doesn’t guarantee freedom — in fact, it often brings new layers of complexity, overwhelm, and even burnout. As a law firm owner who’s been through it all and helped countless others navigate this transition, I’m here to pull back the curtain on the five hard truths that most people don’t talk about.
We’ll unpack everything from poor team structure and lack of data visibility, to the trap of being stuck in the business rather than leading on the business. If you’ve been feeling stretched too thin, unsure of your role, or like your firm is running you — not the other way around — this episode is going to hit home.
More importantly, I’ll show you the practical steps you can take to move from exhaustion to empowerment.
Takeaways:
Freedom doesn’t come from revenue — it comes from structure, leadership, and letting go.
Your team can’t perform without clarity: defined roles, KPIs, and accountability are essential.
Scaling without knowing your numbers is gambling with your business.
No space = no strategy — if you want to lead, you need to carve out time to think.
You must evolve your role from technician to CEO to avoid burnout and resentment.
Scaling smart means building systems that allow your business to grow without you doing it all.
Everything I share is drawn from real-life experience and the work I do inside the Accelerator program, helping seven-figure law firms become streamlined, profitable, and owner-independent.Apply for the Accelerator Program.
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As a law firm owner, you’ve probably thought about changing your practice management system—or maybe you’re knee-deep in the struggle of using outdated tools that don’t work together. In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of one of the biggest operational shifts we’ve made at Collective Family Law: our migration from LEAP to Clio.
I walk you through the why, the how, and all the messy bits in between—including unexpected roadblocks, the true cost of migration, and the game-changing improvements we experienced once the dust settled. I also share insights on how this transition helped us attract better law talent by streamlining workflows and improving staff and client experiences.
If you’re a law firm owner considering a system change, this episode is your roadmap. I also share tips on how to leverage AI, modern integrations, and a strategic transition plan to scale your law firm smarter—not harder.
Takeaways:
Why we decided to leave LEAP and move to Clio—and how we knew it was time
The unexpected challenges we faced, including a $14,000 data release fee from LEAP
How we planned our transition over 12 months to minimise disruption and stress
Why an internal audit is a critical first step before changing practice management software
The tools we integrated with Clio (including Clio Grow, Calendly, Smarter Drafter, and VXT)
How this transition helped us improve workflows, efficiency, and the client experience
Why Clio’s integrations made our law firm more attractive to top legal talent
What I would do differently if I had to do it all over again
My advice for other law firm owners: build your runway, get a migration partner, and prepare your team
Resources & Tools
Clio – Practice management system we transitioned to
LEAP – Our former system and the challenges we encountered during the exit
Clio Grow – CRM and intake automation that improved our onboarding process
Smarter Drafter – Document automation tool for family law and consent orders
VXT – Cloud phone system that integrates with Clio for time capture and transcription
Calendly – Integrated scheduling software used for client bookings
Femke – Our Operations Manager, who led the technical and team rollout
I’ll be inviting Femke on the podcast soon to give you her perspective from the operations side of the transition—stay tuned!Subscribe to The Scalable Law Podcast for weekly insights on growing a profitable, systemised practice — with less stress and more freedom.
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In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast,I’m pulling back the curtain on a major decision at Collective Family Law Group—the migration from LEAP to Clio as the firm’s core practice management system. After 16 years with LEAP, the transition wasn’t taken lightly. I’m sharing why the switch was made, what challenges were faced, and what improvements have already been seen with Clio.
If you're a law firm owner in Australia considering a change in your legal practice management system, this behind-the-scenes insight will give you the real story—costs, roadblocks, and all.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- Why LEAP no longer aligned with the firm's direction
- The specific features of Clio that appealed to a growing family law firm
- How Clio's integrations (Xero, Calendly, VXT, Outlook) create a seamless workflow
- What went into planning and executing a smooth migration
- The real costs of data migration (including unexpected fees from LEAP)
- How Clio’s flexibility and reporting tools support better decision-making
- Tips for other firms considering a switch in practice management systems
💡Key Takeaways:
- Planning is everything – A 9-month lead time and 60-day dual run helped make the migration smooth.
- The right tech can transform your firm – From cloud access to client portals, Clio offers flexibility LEAP couldn’t.
- Customisation is king – Clio’s workflows and pipelines were tailored to fit how the team actually works.
- You’re not locked in – Clio’s month-to-month licensing makes it easier to scale up or down as your team changes.
Perfect For:
- Australian law firm owners exploring new practice management software
- Family law practices looking to modernise their tech stack
- Legal operations managers seeking better reporting and client communication tools
Want to Learn More?
Email me at caralee@scalablelaw.com for a special Clio trial offer or to ask questions about your own system migration.
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In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain and sharing why the Scalable Law Podcast has been quiet for the past five months. From surprise staff resignations to jumping back into legal files myself, 2025 started off with more chaos than calm. I had to step into my law firm, Collective Family Law, in a much bigger way than planned—which reminded me exactly why I built a scalable business in the first place.
Between rebuilding the team, preparing for LawBizCon, and onboarding new Accelerator members, it’s been a huge start to the year. But I’m back now, and ready to refocus on the podcast, continue supporting law firm owners, and share what’s next for Scalable Law.
In This Episode, I Cover:
- Why I had to jump back into fee-earning work in early 2025- The challenges of retaining legal talent in the current climate- How I successfully rebuilt my team at Collective Family Law- What it really takes to run LawBizCon—and what made this year so rewarding- What’s ahead: our upcoming Bali Content Retreat and new Accelerator intake
Programs I Mention:
Scalable Business Lounge: For law firm owners generating $10K–$60K/month, focused on cash flow, marketing, and client acquisition.
Accelerator Program: For firms generating $70K+/month and ready to systemise, scale their teams, and step into the CEO seat. Doors reopen in July.
Coming Soon:
In the next episode, I’ll dive into how to retain amazing legal talent in 2025—spoiler alert: posting job ads doesn’t work. I’ll share what I actually do.
Resources:
👉 Watch the free masterclass on how to attract more clients without relying on referrals at Scalable Law.👉 Want to join the Bali Retreat or learn more about the Accelerator Program? Email caralee@scalablelaw.com
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Seth Price is BACK for his second appearance on the Scalable Law Podcast, and this time, we’re diving even deeper into one of the most critical drivers of law firm growth: client intake. Seth founded Blue Shark Digital—a leading digital marketing agency for law firms—and owns a large, multi-state practice with over 100 employees.
If you missed his first guest appearance, “Unlocking Law Firm Growth: Marketing, Hiring, and Scaling with Seth Price (EP 170)”, you can listen to it here.
In today’s episode, Seth shares advanced strategies for optimising your client intake process, hiring the right intake team, and converting more leads into paying clients—all while saving time and improving efficiency.
What You’ll Learn:
Why intake is a critical revenue driver (not just an admin task)
How to avoid costly intake mistakes that lose clients
Tools and strategies to streamline your intake process
The importance of quick follow-ups and proper screening
Client intake can make or break your law firm’s success. As Seth explains in this episode, creating a streamlined, intentional intake process is not just about saving time—it’s about boosting conversions, increasing client satisfaction, and setting your firm up for sustainable growth.
Whether you’re a solo practitioner or a growing firm, there’s no one-size-fits-all approach. The key is experimenting with systems and teams that fit your business while keeping client experience front and centre.
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As we step into 2025, law firm owners everywhere are gearing up for the year ahead—hopefully, with a marketing strategy ready to fuel your growth and success, we’ve got an incredible episode lined up! This week, I’m joined by Seth Price, a true entrepreneur in the legal industry, founder of Price Benowitz LLP (a multi-state law firm with over 100 employees), and CEO of BluShark Digital, a leading legal marketing agency.
Seth shares his entrepreneurial journey, starting from a basement law office with two lawyers to building a powerhouse law firm and scaling a successful marketing agency along the way. His story is full of valuable insights on law firm growth, hiring, team management, and how to make your phone ring through effective digital marketing.
Whether you’re just starting out or running an established law firm, this episode is packed with actionable tips on:
Scaling Smart
Hiring & Retention
Marketing That Works
SEO & Local Search Mastery
Avoiding Common Pitfalls
Stay tuned for Part 2 of this conversation where we’ll dive deep into Intake Systems That Convert: How to Handle Client Calls Like a Pro—you won’t want to miss it!
Seth will be joining us LIVE on the Gold Coast at Law Biz Con 2025! He’ll be sharing even more legal marketing and business growth strategies that can transform your law firm. Don’t miss the chance to learn from one of the top marketing and law firm scaling experts in the industry! Secure your spot today!
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As the year winds down, many law firm owners make critical mistakes that can slow down their momentum for the year ahead. In this episode, I will share the three biggest mistakes law firm owners make during the holiday season—and, more importantly, how to avoid them.
If you're guilty of:
Calling off the marketing hunt before Christmas.
Failing to show value and build brand authority during the holiday period.
Not preloading your firm for January and the year ahead...
Then this episode is for you! We’ll get into practical strategies to keep your momentum alive, preload your law firm for a profitable January, and ensure you start 2025 on a high note.
Plus, discover how to:
Develop a marketing plan to stay ahead of your competitors while they slow down.
Automate your strategy to enjoy your holidays and keep your firm visible.
Create a vision for 2025 and implement systems that will set your law firm up for success.
Get ready to transform your law firm in 2025! 🚀 Join me on December 4th for the FREE Preload Your Law Firm for 2025 Webinar, where I'll share actionable strategies to set your firm up for success.
Applications are now open for the January 2025 for the Law Firm Accelerator Program, designed to help firm owners streamline operations, boost profit, and reclaim their time. Plus, don’t miss the opportunity to create professional content for your firm at our Bali Content Retreat—3 days of productivity, connection, and relaxation in paradise. ! Click here to learn more.
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In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, Caralee sits down with Kirsty Rayner of Rayners Lawyers in Port Macquarie. Kirsty shares her incredible journey from starting her law firm as a side hustle while raising her first baby to building a successful, tech-forward practice in a stunning regional location.
Kirsty opens up about:
The challenges and opportunities of running a law firm in a regional town.
How she overcame the fear of hiring and took the leap with her first VA and onshore staff.
Her approach to creating a niche practice in wills and estates and how it’s helped her grow sustainably.
Why brand authority, local partnerships, and leveraging tech have been key to her success.
How she’s built a business that complements her lifestyle and family priorities.
Kirsty also discusses the innovative tech solutions she’s implemented, including an online estate planning platform, and her plans for the future, including stepping back from the tools to work on her business, not just in it.
If you’re a law firm owner in a regional area—or if you’re looking to scale while building a lifestyle-first practice—this episode is packed with inspiration and actionable tips.
Ready to take your law firm to the next level in 2025? Applications for the Scalable Law Accelerator Program are now open! Click HERE to apply.
Join me for a FREE live webinar on 4th December at 12 PM AEST, where I’ll reveal the 3 biggest mistakes law firms make during this time of year—and, most importantly, how to avoid them. Register now!
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