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Glenn Loury invites guests from the worlds of academia, journalism and public affairs to share insights on economic, political and social issues.
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PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 A message from Glenn4:00 Why Clifton is planning a one-man show about Thomas Sowell9:42 The challenge of portraying Sowell onstage13:45 How Clifton is getting the show off the ground19:01 The lure of acting22:43 2020’s affect on the racial dynamics of the theater30:40 Clifton: Top-down DEI casting edicts are “central planning for art”40:25 The racial attitude that’s “destroying black artists,” according to Viola Davis47:27 Why Clifton changed his position about COVID pandemic measures1:04:29 The left’s valuation of vulnerability1:14:21 Why Clifton’s career fell apart after 20201:24:56 If progressives like the COVID vaccines, why don’t they give Trump any credit?1:29:05 The problem of the black independent thinkerRecorded April 13, 2024Links & ReadingClifton’s Substack, State of the ArtsThomas Sowell’s 1983 appearance on William F. Buckley’s Firing LineThomas Sowell’s memoir, A Personal OdysseyCheryl West’s play, Before It Hits HomeSuzan-Lori Parks’s 365 Plays/365 DaysDonald Bogle’s book, Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies, and Bucks: An Interpretive History of Blacks in American FilmsDonald Bogle’s book, Primetime Blues: African Americans on Network TelevisionThe Great Barrington DeclarationAndrew Lobaczewski’s book, Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of Totalitarianism This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Michael’s new role at the University of Austin5:41 Michael’s “civilization” trilogy9:40 The rise of pro-censorship opinion among Democrats17:05 Do new communication technologies require revising our ideas about free speech?21:53 The Censorship-Industrial Complex28:10 The anti-censorship benefits of the Streisand Effect35:37 The government’s role in censorship at Facebook42:04 What you can’t say about war45:19 The dehumanizing effects of Black Lives Matters protests55:25 Forming an anti-nihilist coalition1:00:36 Embracing American liberal democracyRecorded March 21, 2024Links and ReadingsMichael’s Substack, PublicUniversity of AustinMichael’s book, Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us AllMichael’s book, San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin CitiesAndrew Lobaczewski’s book, Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of TotalitarianismMartin Gurri’s book, The Revolt of the Public and the Crisis of Authority in the New MillenniumThe WPATH FilesJohn McWhorter’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black AmericaErnest Becker’s book, The Denial of DeathGlenn’s City Journal essay, “The Case for Black Patriotism”John Burn-Murdoch’s Financial Times piece, “America is undergoing a racial realignment”Abigail Schrier’s book, Bad Therapy: Why the Kids Aren’t Growing UpJonathan Haidt’s book, The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental IllnessRob Henderson’s book, Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social ClassGlenn’s conversation with Rob Henderson This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
A Message from Glenn

A Message from Glenn

2024-04-1105:29

A message from Glenn concerning his surgery, his recovery, and what you can expect from The Glenn Show over the next month. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Why Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison wanted to come on TGS4:42 Keith’s defense of the George Floyd trials’ verdicts9:54 John: We weren’t wrong to ask the questions we asked, even if our answers came up short at first13:00: Keith: Liz Collin doesn’t seem to believe that police misconduct actually exists16:40 How Keith accounts for racial disparities in criminal behavior21:36 The emotional dimension of prosecution27:15 Keith’s argument for integration and against charter schools35:19 The redlining debate40:00 The burning of Minneapolis’s 3rd Precinct44:45 Keith: “‘Defund the police’ is dumb”46:38 What’s causing low police morale?50:25 Keith’s argument for a two-state solution and re-electing Biden55:41 Keith: Glenn and John play an important role in political discourse todayRecorded March 30, 2024Links and ReadingsKeith Ellison’s book, Break the Wheel: Ending the Cycle of Police ViolenceGlenn and John’s first conversation about The Fall of MinneapolisGlenn and John talk to Fall of Minneapolis filmmakers Liz Collin and JC ChaixGlenn and John talk George Floyd after Radley Balko’s first post on the documentaryRadley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part One”Radley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part Two”Radley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part Three”Radley Balko’s response to Coleman HughesAlpha NewsRucker Johnson’s working paper, “Long-Run Impacts of School Desegregation & School Quality on Adult Attainments”John’s NYT piece, “What’s Missing from the Conversation about Systemic Racism”Equal Justice Initiative website This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
March 2024 Q&A

March 2024 Q&A

2024-04-0310:39

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John answer questions submitted by Substack subscribers in their March 2024 Q&A session. Topics covered: race in America after Trayvon Martin, the Hughes-Balko debate, statistics vs. real life, denunciations of antisemitism, privileged African Americans and oppression, the origin story of Glenn and John, and John's alleged case of TDS.
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The charges Amy faces at Penn4:08 Glenn: I’ve said some of things that have gotten Amy in trouble myself10:04 Amy: “You might as well erase the veritas from [Penn’s] mission statement”18:18 What’s really at issue in the Amy Wax indictment24:06 Amy’s race realist rebuttal to DEI34:43 Isn’t there room for some efforts toward proportional representation?43:46 When IQ differences matter and when they don’tRecorded March 20, 2024Links and ReadingsAmy’s 2021 TGS appearanceAmy’s 2022 TGS appearanceThe leaked Penn Hearing Board recommendationsGlenn’s 2021 conversation with Charles MurrayCharles Murray’s book, Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in AmericaAmy’s review of Facing Reality in the Claremont Review This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The word about Ron DeSantis on the streets of Key West3:32 John’s awards show allergy6:41 The realness of American Fiction14:50 Rustin’s narrow historical vision21:56 The SATs are on their way back23:23 Afraid to flagrantly split infinitives and end sentences with prepositions? That’s something you should get over.26:29 What do we mean by “colorblindness” today?38:30 John: Maybe we have to be a little cold-hearted about colorblindness41:56 What does rigid colorblindness blind us to?46:40 What would Stanley Crouch do?51:08 Debating the presidential debatesRecorded March 16, 2024Links and ReadingsAmerican Fiction trailerPercival Everett’s novel, ErasureRustin trailerBayard Rustin’s 1965 Commentary essay, “From Protest to Politics: The Future of the Civil Rights Movement”John’s NYT piece, “No, the SAT Isn’t Racist”John’s NYT piece, “The ‘Rule’ against Ending Sentences with Prepositions Has Always Been Silly”Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind AmericaStanley Crouch’s book, Notes of a Hanging Judge: Essays and Reviews, 1979-1989Stanley Crouch’s book, The All-American Skin Game, or The Decoy of Race: The Long and Short of It, 1990-1994 This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Matthew’s theological perspective on criminal justice 5:28 Loving the criminal offender 8:10 25 years for an ounce-and-a-half of marijuana? 14:59 Christianity and the legal use of force 20:39 Matthew: I cannot enter the public square without considering my faith 24:48 Determining justice in a fallen world 29:35 What’s wrong with criminal justice today? 31:48 The problem of prosecutorial immunity 38:43 Matthew’s take on George Floyd 43:16 Has the criminal justice system truly reformed itself on race matters?50:00 The denial of bail and the denial of justice 56:37 Matthew: We don’t have quick, accurate, reliable verdicts 1:02:41 Why Matthew opposes the death penalty “as currently practiced in the United States” 1:08:21 How ordinary Americans can helpRecorded February 28, 2024Links and ReadingsMatthew’s book, Reforming Criminal Justice: A Christian ProposalRichard John Neuhaus’s book, The Naked Public Square: Religion and Democracy in AmericaPhilip Gorski, American Covenant: A History of Civil Religion from the Puritans to the PresentNational Register of ExonerationsSt. Irenaeus’s Against HeresiesKellen Funk and Sandra Mayson’s Harvard Law Review article, “Bail at the Founding” This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 What makes an “elite”?4:37 Rob’s very rough early childhood7:39 Rob’s experience with foster care and adoption12:35 Why Rob joined the Air Force17:23 The uses of military discipline22:15 A 25-year-old military vet freshman at Yale24:55 Luxury beliefs and cultural capital29:56 Who bears the cost of defunding the police?35:43 Two-parent households for me but not for thee40:59 Revealed preferences and implicit understanding46:57 Interclass resentment as a political weapon52:45 How Rob became both the “token liberal” and the “token conservative”58:02 Rob: Poverty doesn’t necessarily generate social dysfunctionRecorded February 19, 2024Links and ReadingsRob’s memoir, Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social ClassRob’s SubstackRob’s Boston Globe op-ed, “The SAT is pathway to more college diversity, not less”Rob’s WSJ piece, “‘Luxury Beliefs’ That Only the Privileged Can Afford”Robert Putnam’s book, Our Kids: The American Dream in CrisisCharles Murray’s book, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010Thorstein Veblen’s book, The Theory of the Leisure ClassPierre Bourdieu’s book, Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgment of TasteMichael Knox Beran’s book, Wasps: The Splendors and Miseries of an American AristocracyRob’s NYT op-ed, “Why Being a Foster Child Made Me a Conservative" This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 John: Keith Ellison disrespected me6:45 Did Derek Chauvin get a fair trial?16:22 Are Glenn and John headed for a confrontation with Ellison?23:30 Shane’s account of civil decay in Minneapolis29:24 Shane: The radicals are in charge35:30 What’s causing the anti-police sentiment in Minneapolis40:40 Violent crime in the George Floyd Square “autonomous zone”49:39 Shane: Even liberals need to vote Republican in local Minneapolis elections54:36 The Fani Willis issue in GeorgiaRecorded February 24, 2024Links and ReadingsKeith Ellison’s book, Breaking the Wheel: Ending the Cycle of Police ViolenceGlenn and John’s episode, “The Fall of Minneapolis Reconsidered”Radley Balko’s response to Glenn, John, and Coleman HughesRajiv Sethi and Brendan O’Flaherty book, Shadows of Doubt: Stereotypes, Crimes, and the Pursuit of JusticeShane’s websiteShane’s Alpha News piece on the community meeting about the new Minneapolis Third Precinct locationCrime Watch Minneapolis’s X pageColeman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Why Corey weighed in on the Claudine Gay controversy3:50 Corey: DEI doesn’t offer anything to those on the fringes of society10:16 Black opposition to Chicago’s “sanctuary city” status18:29 Why Corey supports the police21:47 Support for New Beginnings from outside Chicago23:25 The Rooftop Pastor25:00 Corey’s embrace of conservatism29:56 Project HOOD33:04 Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson’s closure of test schools37:02 Class differences within the black communityRecorded January 31, 2024Links and ReadingsNew Beginnings ChurchProject HOODCorey’s Tablet piece, “America Works. DEI Doesn’t.”Inc covers the Elon Musk-Mark Cuban DEI exchange This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 How an elementary school project turned Shermichael on to politics7:16 Black and Republican at Morehouse in the Obama era9:05 Why Shermichael is a conservative12:48 The two sides of black “progress”17:24 Shermichael: Identity matters, even for conservatives21:54 How Shermichael got booted from the Trump administration28:26 Shermichael’s relatively positive assessment of Trump’s presidency32:29 Was Trump’s post-election behavior good for conservatism?37:43 The counterintuitive Evangelical support for Trump40:41 Shermichael’s mentors at Morehouse50:17 Encountering Thomas Sowell and Glenn56:19 What Ben Carson is up to these days58:51 The major intellectual influences on GlennRecorded January 4, 2024Links and ReadingsShermichael’s Ebony piece, “Young, Gifted (Conservative, Republican) and Black” (scroll down)Shermichael’s the Hill piece, “A Republican asks: Aren’t we morally obliged to stand up to Trump,” that got him firedRev. Dr. Robert Michael Franklin on MorehouseHit StrategiesAmerican Cornerstone InstituteThe Shermichael Singleton Show on Apple Podcasts This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 What’s wrong with Rhapsody in Blue?7:26 Radley Balko’s response to The Fall of Minneapolis, Coleman Hughes, Glenn, and John17:26 Were Liz Collin and JC Chaix dishonest in their documentary about Derek Chauvin?19:55 Were Glenn and John too credulous about The Fall of Minneapolis?25:41 Hughes’s new book, The End of Race Politics28:26 The problem with colorblindness36:30 The interrelatedness of “black culture” and “American culture”43:52 John: No one’s going to be excited about a Biden-Harris ticket this time around52:59 Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir PutinRecorded February 11, 2024Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “No, ‘Rhapsody in Blue’ Is Not ‘The Worst’”Glenn and John’s conversation about The Fall of MinneapolisGlenn and John’s conversation with Liz Collin and JC ChaixLiz Collin and JC Chaix’s documentary, The Fall of MinneapolisRadley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd”Coleman Hughes’s Free Press piece, “What Really Happened to George Floyd”Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind AmericaThe trailer for RustinGlenn’s 2003 NYT oped, “Affirmative Action—and Reaction; Admissions (and Denials) of Responsibility”A clip from Coleman Hughes’s most recent appearance on Real Time with Bill MaherRoss Douthat’s NYT piece, “The Question Is Not If Biden Should Step Aside. It’s How.”Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The conversations that aren’t happening on college campuses4:16 Staying informed about Israel-Palestine9:22 Glenn: Don’t subject me to a loyalty test12:14 Rajiv: High-minded principles alone won’t solve the self-censorship problem18:11 “The Naked Emperor Equilibrium”21:52 The game theoretical aspect of Glenn’s memoir25:35 An homage to Thomas Schelling27:31 Rajiv’s work on police use-of-force, then and now30:36 The predictive value of political betting markets42:44 Robert Solow’s intellectual family tree46:16 The lopsided distribution of elite economists49:08 Rajiv: Big econ departments should take more chances on candidates51:52 The mind-boggling geographical variation in police killings56:09 Why Rajiv doesn’t take pride in other Indian-Americans’ successRecorded January 26, 2024Links and ReadingsNoam Dworman’s TGS appearanceNoam Dworman’s podcast, Live from the TableNorman Finkelstein and Eli Lake on Live from the TableBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine CrisisRashid Khalidi on Live from the TableBenny Morris on Live from the TableTara Henley’s Lean OutIlan Pappé’s book, The Ethnic Cleansing of PalestineGlenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related PhenomenaGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinNorman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomGlenn’s conversation with John MearsheimerJohn Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign PolicyUniversity of Chicago’s 1967 Kalven Committee ReportUniversity of Chicago’s 2014 “Chicago Principles” on freedom of expressionElizabeth Noelle-Neumann’s book, The Spiral of Silence: Public Opinion—Our Second SkinTimothy Kuran’s book, Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference FalsificationThomas Schelling’s book, The Strategy of ConflictRajiv and Brendan O’Flahery’s book, Shadows of Doubt: Stereotypes, Crime, and Pursuit of JusticeGunnar Myrdal’s book, An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern DemocracyRajiv’s Substack, Imperfect InformationRajiv’s Substack post, “Economic Growth and the Growth of Economics: Reflections on Robert Solow”Ralph Ellison’s essay 1970 essay, “What America Would Be Like without Blacks” This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Why Noam gave Glenn a bag of books about Israel5:25 Why Glenn felt burned after The Bell Curve8:49 Loyalty among friends during the Gaza War13:15 The blowback from Brown’s ceasefire letter17:18 Talking about Israel across the ideological spectrum19:42 Glenn: Loyalty tests are unreasonable23:16 Trying to understand the human costs of war26:26 Glenn: There is no decent alternative to a two-state solution33:32 “Apartheid,” “genocide,” and other potentially unhelpful terms39:29 Noam: Thank God for President Biden44:13 Why Noam is worried about American attitudes toward Israel49:08 Will the Gaza War end up strengthening Hamas?56:08 The tone-deafness of some supporters of IsraelRecorded January 31, 2023Links and ReadingsNoam’s podcast, Live from the TableThe Glenn Show Live at the Comedy CellarGlenn and John Live at the Comedy CellarCharles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American LifeGlenn’s conversation with Charles MurrayThe Brown University faculty’s ceasefire letterGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinGlenn’s conversation with John MearsheimerGlenn’s most recent conversation with Robert WrightBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine ConflictAaron Maté’s appearance on Noam’s podcast This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 John: Claudine Gay needed to resign, but her plagiarism wasn’t a mortal sin 6:50 Has DEI taken a hit after the Gay controversy? 13:50 When “DEI” really means “racial preferences” 22:12 The case of Neri Oxman 23:52 John: Bill Ackman looks “absurd” 26:47 Three cheers for John’s dinosaurs 28:22 Is Glenn really a “black conservative”? 31:11 The three dimensions of black conservatism 37:50 Black elites and immigration 42:35 Ibram X. Kendi undeterred 44:48 Roland Fryer is still standing 46:48 Is Amy Wax getting railroaded by Penn?Recorded January 27, 2024Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “We Need a New Word for ‘Plagiarism’”Elon Musk’s DEI airline post on XNeri Oxman’s CVAdolph Reed’s essay, “‘What Are the Drums Saying, Booker?’: The Curious Role of the Black Public Intellectual” (originally published in the Village Voice, April 11, 1995)Wilfred Reilly’s comparative IQ post on XRecording of Amy Wax’s FIRE webinarGlenn’s December 2021 episode with Amy WaxGlenn’s August 2022 episode with Amy WaxCharles Murray’s book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Race, Gender, and ClassGlenn’s conversation with Charles Murray This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
Preorder Glenn's memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The many, many books of David Kaiser3:01 David: Claudine Gay is a symptom, not a cause, of what’s wrong at Harvard6:09 Western Civilization and elitism at Harvard10:03 Meritorious elitism and luxury elitism12:35 Intellectuals in the wild14:28 How James Bryant Conant built the modern Harvard …17:33 … and how it was broken18:52 Glenn’s previous conversation with Omer Bartov24:12 Why David thinks the Gaza War falls short of genocide but maybe not ethnic cleansing25:51 What Claudine Gay could (and maybe should) have said at her congressional hearing27:51 Why David thinks originalists will have a problem rejecting attempts to remove Trump from electoral ballots32:38 David: Mitch McConnell should have impeached Trump when he had the chance36:07 David’s new book, States of the Union41:03 Have state of the union addresses always been as boring as they are now?44:55 Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, and their legacies57:37 Why Obama didn’t propose a New New Deal after the 2008 financial crisis1:01:01 Biden’s silenceRecorded January 10, 2024Links and ReadingsDavid’s book, Economic Diplomacy and the Origin of the Second World War: Germany, Britain, France, and Eastern Europe, 1930-1939David’s book, Politics and War: European Conflict from Philip II to HitlerDavid’s book, American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of the Vietnam WarDavid’s book, The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. KennedyDavid’s book, Baseball Greatness: Top Players and Teams According to Wins Above Average, 1901-2017David’s book, NFL 1965: The Most Exciting SeasonDavid’s book, A Life in HistoryDavid’s book, States of the Union: A History of the United States through Presidential Addresses, 1789-2023Glenn’s previous conversation with DavidFareed Zakaria on elite universitiesGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovDavid’s blog, History UnfoldingDavid’s blog post about the Fourteenth AmendmentHoward Zinn’s book, A People’s History of the United StatesJohn F. Kennedy’s June 11, 1963 address on segregation This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
Preorder Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative wherever you buy your books.If you missed Wednesday’s City Journal and Manhattan Institute-hosted livestream, I’ve got you covered. Today I’m releasing the recording of that livestream as a special bonus episode. This event marked the publication of my City Journal essay “Clarence Thomas and Me,” and I had a stellar line-up alongside me to discuss the essay and the work of Clarence Thomas: Ilya Shapiro of the Manhattan Institute, Robert George of Princeton, and Randall Kennedy of Harvard Law School. 0:00 Introductions2:58 Why Glenn wrote “Clarence Thomas and Me”5:27 Randall: “Justice Thomas trades on his blackness”10:58 Glenn: Clarence Thomas has not “betrayed black people”12:30 Thomas’s engagement with natural law jurisprudence19:29 How would Thomas have come down on Brown v. Board of Education?20:55 The loyalty trap24:20 Randall: Thomas’s originalism may also commit him to sanctioning segregation28:24 Robbie: There are originalist interpretations that support Brown v. Board of Education34:07 Thomas’s race cases36:03 Glenn: Thomas can act as both a principled jurist and as an advocate for the rights of African Americans40:56 Randall: In 100 years, people will regard Shelby County v. Holder as one of the worst decisions in the Court’s history44:36 Maintaining integrity under pressure51:22 What are the differences between Thomas’s, Scalia’s, and Alito’s originalisms?55:30 Will Thomas have broader popularity in the future?1:01:10 Is racial solidarity inconsistent with judicial impartiality?1:03:30 Closing remarksRecorded January 17, 2024Links and ReadingsGlenn’s City Journal essay, “Clarence Thomas and Me”Glenn’s book, One by One from the Inside Out : Essays and Reviews on Race and Responsibility in AmericaMichael McConnell’s article, “The Originalist Case for Brown v. Board of Education”Randy Barnett and Evan Bernick’s book, The Original Meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment: Its Letter and SpiritLon Fuller’s book, The Morality of LawThe documentary on Clarence Thomas, Created Equal This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
0:00 Preorder Glenn’s forthcoming memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative2:17 Why Glenn wrote a memoir (and why you should order it now)8:59 A ringing endorsement from John10:00 What does Martin Luther King Jr. Day mean in 2024?15:28 Preserving King’s belief in “the content of our character”16:20 What would King have thought of Claudine Gay?20:20 King’s radicalism25:54 John: Being against DEI does not make you a racist28:10 The Tabia Lee affair at D’Anza Community College29:58 How Claudine Gay should have reacted to the plagiarism scandal32:47 Glenn: “The DEI movement is hoist on its own petard”35:57 How DEI’s dominance has improved John’s home media set-up41:41 John’s upcoming cabaret showLinks and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “Claudine Gay Was Not Driven Out Because She Is Black”Glenn’s conversation with Tabia Lee“All’s Fair in Love and War” from Gold Diggers of 1937 This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
0:00 The long road leading to the Gaza War9:14 Don’t Palestinians have some responsibility for the current state of affairs?9:48 The precedent of the 1973 Yom Kippur War11:26 Omer: Israel only negotiates under pressure13:31 Netanyahu and the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin15:27 The US’s military support for Israel16:32 The origins of Hamas20:20 Omer: Netanyahu’s coalition is “a mirror image of Hamas”24:45 The threat to democracy in Israel26:27 Omer: Netanyahu is driving the country to the right in order to avoid a corruption trial30:07 How “Jewish supremacists” have gained control of Israel’s government34:01 Why Omer’s Zionism does not commit him to defending Israel’s actions36:46 The risk of genocide in Gaza40:05 The IDF’s procedure in the Gaza invasion43:09 What will happen to the Gazan refugees?45:00 The international community’s role in finding a resolution to the Gaza War48:17 Is the IDF “the most moral army in the world”?54:39 The revenge motive57:07 Omer: The campaign in Gaza is a fiasco59:38 A US-led plan for “the day after”1:04:37 Is peace in Israel a pollyannaish pipe dream?Recorded January 2, 2023Links and ReadingsBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel-Palestine ConflictOmer’s New Statesman piece, “Both Netanyahu and Hamas see this crisis as an opportunity”Hamas’s 1988 charterOmer’s NYT op-ed, “What I Believe as a Historian of Genocide” This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe
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Jane Smith

this probably could've been a decent conversation but I'm not going to listen to some tool talk about how idf is big and bad and that justifies rape, slaughter, and kidnapping. kidnapping of babies no less. it's a stupid position to take and I feel like I lost brain cells just listening to a bit of what that moron said.

Feb 4th
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little red book

Maybe Hamas wants to kill all the Jews like they say they want to? Maybe Jewish students barricaded in a library with a baying mob outside have a right to be afraid? Or Jewish students walking across Harvard Yard being physically intimidated have a right to be concerned? "From the river to the sea" is a call for genocide and you can't just hand wave that away. And it was chanted on college campuses before Israel even responded. Free speech doesn't cover incitement to violence.

Nov 24th
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Nick Rosato

thank you for that conversation.

Dec 14th
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William Butler

great discussion

Dec 12th
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jonathan

this guy knows statistics, but he doesn't understand. He argues for incapacitation, yet his proposed policies would keep people in prison well past their risk of committing crimes.

Oct 29th
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jonathan

that was...awkward, lol.

Jul 13th
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c s

Never before have I encountered someone so confident and patronizing --- who is simultaneously unable to craft an argument with any semblance of coherence. It is one of the most frustrating discussions I've ever listened to or been a participant in. She would have been magical in the Monty Python skit where John Cleese walks into an office looking for an argument. Her style is combativeness masquerading as intelligent, reasoned discourse.

Apr 30th
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Punkfake

She’s naive and her brain has been filled with post modern nonsense that cannot stand up to any scrutiny. Several times she come right up against her own self contradictory views and is incapable of recognizing them as such.

Apr 22nd
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Jay Sanzo

This was one of the most interesting, stimulating and thought provoking podcasts I've heard in a very long time.

Dec 26th
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Kiat Huang

If I was pushed, these fine gentleman "meeting little green men from a UFO in Central Park" would be more earth-shattering a story than a (possibly despicable) human suing a bunch of other people.

Nov 27th
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ID17714573

Thank you for this

Jun 14th
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Ash Yonge

the elect

Mar 22nd
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The Heretic

loving the improved sound quality

Jan 25th
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Noah Blaff

40 minutes in

Nov 10th
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Sean Cody

Impeccably honest analysis of black lives matter. Essential listening.

Jun 8th
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Gary Haase

"Penny ante bullshit" is a fantastic figure of speech.

Nov 14th
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The Heretic

I wish he would let her speak without the constant interruptions.

Aug 26th
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L.S. Mitchell

Awesome conversation.

Jul 11th
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Thomas Bayer

Wow, half way thru this and it's amazing. Thanks for sharing your life Glenn! Also, the faith that the Bible asks of us in Hebrews 11:1 is based on reason and evidence. Unfortunately most religious teachers don't know hoe to empart that. Maybe because THEY don't have it?

Jul 7th
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L.S. Mitchell

Around minute 12:54 Fortner briefly explains a problem with Michelle Alexander's book The New Jim Crow.

Jun 25th
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