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The global politics podcast at the end of the End of History. Politics is back but it’s stranger than ever: join us as we chart a course beyond the age of ’bunga bunga’. Interviews, long-form discussions, docu-series.
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On Trump & radical right ideology.
Jean-François Drolet, a leading researcher into the 'World of the Right', talks to Alex and Lee about Donald Trump's coveting of Greenland, and puts the move into its ideological context.
What is the paleoconservative worldview, how is it different from the neoconservative one, and which is more influential in the Trump regime?
How does paleoconservatism translate into actual foreign policy? What's in Trump's new National Security Strategy?
Are we back to a 19th century-style 'spheres of influence' arrangement?
Does the radical right's foreign policy lead back to a populist kind of isolationism – or to a 'civilisational nationalism'?
Will Trump solidify the transatlantic alliance, or generate a rift?
Links:
/461/ Welcome to the World of the Right ft. Michael C. Williams
World of the Right: Radical Conservatism and World Order (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2024).
International Relations and the Geopolitics of the European New Right, European Journal of International Relations, JF Drolet
From Critique to Reaction: The New Right, Critical Theory and International Relations, Journal of International Political Theory, JF Drolet & Michael C. Williams
Trump’s 2025 National Security Strategy: Goodbye, Liberal International Order; Hello, Radical Right, Lee Jones, American Affairs (forthcoming
On ICE, Minneapolis – and your questions & comments.
Contributing editor Ryan Zickgraf is back from Minnesota and tells us what is happening on the ground. We also discuss:
If this was Trump picking a fight, why Minnesota?
Do the slayings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti mark a step-change in who can be killed in the US with relative impunity?
What are the implications for the 2nd Amendment and will this divide MAGA World?
Does a hard border necessarily entail a hard, militarised society too? Is the interiorisation of the border inevitable?
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We then discuss listener questions on:
What is important that Bungacast cover?
The benefits of citizenship
Capitalists paying themselves for labour
The post-doomer personality
Readings:
South Minneapolis has had enough, Ryan Zickgraf, UnHerd
Enforcement Regime, Michael Macher, Phenomenal World
Minneapolis Is a Second Amendment Wake-Up Call, Tyler Austin Harper, The Atlantic
ICE unloads, Ken Klippenstein, Substack
On the social turn in psychoanalysis.
Psychoanalysts Christie and Ricky talk to Alex and George about their article in issue #5 of Damage, on ill-fated attempts at solving social problems through therapy.
What is the 'social turn' and is it another case of immediacy?
Why are the social problems to be dealt with treated as both urgent and impossible to resolve?
Is this a case of hyperpolitics? Is psychoanalysis actually white supremacy?
Do the professions need defending? Do they need to accept their limitations?
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Links:
The Regression in Psychoanalysis’s “Social Turn”, Christie Offenbacher & Ricky Levitt
/210/ Reading Club: Psychoanalysis & Spirit of Capitalism
On Southeast Asia's scam compounds.
Mark Bo, organised-crime researcher and co-author of Scam, talks to Alex and Lee about his book, his experiences and why this fusion of gangsterism and speculation has taken root in the contemporary economy.
What is the scale of the scam industry?
How do scams like pig butchering, fish butchering, or law-enforcement impersonation work?
How does organised crime structure itself on corporate lines? How does this fit with modern slavery?
Do illicit zones signal the coming of a kind of "compound capitalism"? Is scamming a symptom of the death of the developmental state?
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Links:
Scam: Inside Southeast Asia’s Cybercrime Compounds, Ivan Franceschini, Ling Li, and Mark Bo, Verso
On the making of independent India – and its lessons.
Assistant professor of politics at The New School, Sandipto Dasgupta, talks to contributing editor Alex Gourevitch about this new book, Legalizing the Revolution: India and the Constitution of the Postcolony.
Why was the postcolonial movement insufficiently anti-colonial?
What is the difference between the legal and political meaning of popular sovereignty – and why does it matter?
What was the hidden, repressive element to the Indian Constitution?
Did post-colonial leaders create something novel, even heroic? Or did they fail even on their own terms?
Where do the democratic and counter-revolutionary aspects of the Indian revolution express themselves?
How do symbolic substitutes for genuine popular participation play themselves out in Modi's India?
Links:
Legalizing the Revolution: India and the Constitution of the Postcolony, Sandipto Dasgupta, Cambridge UP
/198/ Universal India ft. Achin Vanaik
/417/ Has India passed peak Modi? ft. Achin Vanaik
On the collective subject at the end of the End of History.
Panagiotis Sotiris, Historical Materialism editorial board member and assistant professor at the University of the Aegean, talks to Alex and Lee about class and the "national-popular".
Is the way to recover popular sovereignty to "return" to the nation?
Is there a contradiction between this and declaring oneself to be "in favour of open frontiers for migrants and refugees"?
What is the meaning of citizenship in this case?
What's the difference between Gramsci's conceptions of people-nation and nation-rhetoric?
Does the radical right's "civilisational nationalism" offer the left an opportunity to reclaim a popular notion of nationhood?
Links:
Rethinking the “We” of Emancipation, Panagiotis Sotiris, Communis
/471/ Reforming the Deformed ft. Nathan Sperber & George Hoare
On US derangement on screen.
The OG Bunga boys get togther for the annual end-of-year film episode. We discuss Ari Aster's Eddington, as well as a bit of Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another and Yorgos Lanthimos' Bugonia: the three films that together marked 2025, and which deal with paranoia, conspiracy, disinformation and unmoored political activity.
Is this hyperpolitics on screen?
Do these films serve any critical purpose?
Is Eddington a faithful depiction of the society of immediacy or is it guilty of immediacy itself?
Are we all fkin r*****ed?
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Links:
/520/ Conspiracy Culture & Paranoid Styles ft. Catherine Liu
Hell in Ari Aster, Tara Heffernan & Felix McNamara, Corporate Total Art
/458/ The Society of Pure Vibe ft. Anna Kornbluh (on 'immediacy')
America’s Unraveling on Screen, Monica Marks, New Lines Magazine
On homoploutia and national market liberalism.
Branko Milanovic, Research Professor at City University of New York, talks to Phil and Alex about his most recent book, The Great Global Transformation: National Market Liberalism in a Multipolar World.
What unites the political trajectories of Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump?
How is global inequality, growth and political conflict evolving in the aftermath of globalisation?
How are hierarchies of global income shifting as the world rebalances towards East Asia?
What kind of political theories can we use to model the emergence of this new multipolar world – Adam Smith, Lenin, Luxembourg or John Rawls?
And what is Homoploutia?
Links:
The Great Global Transformation: National Market Liberalism in a Multipolar World, Branko Milanovic
Global Inequality 3.0 and More, Branko's substack
An Economist’s Case for Open Borders, Branko Milanovic, Dissent Magazine
The ‘homoploutic’ elephant, with Branko Milanović, FT
On overmedicalisation and the crisis of authority.
Amber Trotter, practicing psychologist and an editor at Damage magazine, and George Hoare tell Alex about their co-written article in the print issue of Damage on "the pre-political".
What is driving the explosion in mental health diagnoses? Why are people seeking diagnosis?
How is it the product of the subjective and the purely scientific?
Does capitalism make us ill? Is blaming 'capitalism' abstractly part of the problem?
What is the crisis of authority? Whose authority?
Can we solve pre-political problems with politics? And political problems with pre-political approaches?
Damage, Issue 5: The Pre-Political
On post-woke strategies.
Ryan Z is back on, talking to Alex and George about the US Democrats' attempt to respond to Trump/MAGA.
In association with Damage magazine.
Can the Democrats escape the shadow of woke?
Is Big Woke dying? Everywhere?
Who are the groups and think-tanks pushing for a reorientation, and what are they proposing?
Will the Dems adapt to Trump’s challenge or pretend nothing is happening?
We then take listener questions and comments on transport infrastructure, left-wing gatekeeping, and the crisis in education everywhere, high and low.
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Links:
Can the Democrats Escape the Shadow of Woke?, Ryan Zickgraf, Damage
Inside the Democratic identity crisis, Ryan Zickgraf, UnHerd
On legitimacy and chronic crisis.
Benjamin Studebaker talks to Alex and Lee about his book, Legitimacy in Liberal Democracy – and why the absence of the threat of revolution makes the crisis drag on.
What's wrong with 20th century accounts of legitimacy crises? What's changed?
Why is contemporary politics so stuck? Is it inescapable?
How does the breakdown of consensus make the emergence of a social majority so difficult?
Is there no common programme we can agree on, focused on bread-and-butter issues?
Do we need to stare despair in the face? Is catastrophe the only way out?
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Links:
Legitimacy in Liberal Democracy, Benjamin Studebaker, Edinburgh UP
UNLOCKED: /361/ A Nightmare on the Brains of the Living ft. Benjamin Studebaker
Debilitated democracy: When the legs get ripped off, Dirk Jörke and Benjamin Studebaker, European Journal of Social Theory
On the crisis in literacy.
Poet, podcaster and teacher, C. Derick Varn – who has taught in Mexico, Korea, Egypt and the US, at various levels – joins Alex and George to interrogate the coming "post-literate society".
What do we mean when we say 'post-literate'?
This seems a global problem – so is it a problem of the education system?
Is it as simple as blaming smartphones?
How else has education become degraded? How have progressives and conservatives combined to do this?
Are we becoming on oral culture again? What are the consequences?
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Links:
Are we becoming a post-literate society?, Sarah O'Connor, FT
Have humans passed peak brain power?, John Burn-Murdoch, FT
Visible Learning (synthesis of meta analyses), John Hattie
Why Knowledge Matters, ED Hirsch, Harvard
Seven Myths about Education, Daisy Christodoulou
Insensitivity Readers!, Nina Power
In this special episode, we present talks given by contributing editor Catherine Liu and co-host George Hoare on the paranoid style at a recent conference at UC Irvine, co-hosted by the Palm Springs School for Social Research.
00:01:23 – Catherine Liu: Opening Remarks, on Richard Hofstatder’s classic essay “The Paranoid Style in American Politics”
00:12:18 – George Hoare: The Paranoid Style in British Politics
00:36:06 – Catherine Liu: "Zombies Clowns and Gangsters"
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On the middle classes and cultural compression.
For the concluding episode of the 2024/25 Reading Club, we discuss C. Wright Mills' White Collar, plus some additional short texts on what mass culture is like today.
credit: Ryan Zickgraf, based on The Wilson Quarterly/Russell Lynes 1949
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Does Mills' account of the “economic psychology” of the White Collar worker still ring true today?
What about their "political psychology"?
What is the state of White Collar trade unionism today?
Is there no possibility of the middle class leading a political movement?
Do the distinctions of high- middle- and low-brow still make sense today, in our era of levelling-down and slop?
Should we defend democracy in the economy and elitism in culture?
Readings:
White Collar: The American Middle Classes, C. Wright Mills, 1951 (esp final two chapters)
Highbrow, Middlebrow, Lowbrow, Russell Lynes, Wilson Quarterly, 1976 reprint of 1949 article (pdf attached)
Post-Mass Culture, Dylan Riley, Sidecar
Unionizing the “Cultural Apparatus”, Nelson Lichtenstein, Jacobin
On technology, transhumanism, and progress.
James Hughes (Exec Director, Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies) and Eli Sennesh (postdoc, Vanderbilt) present a futurist approach to Alex and contributing editor Leigh Phillips.
What is wrong with the acronym TESCREAL?
Why is it wrong to worry about future transhumanism when we need to grapple with the technologies of now?
What are the limits of bourgeois futurism? What is an alternative futurism?
Has AI changed everything? Will it?
Are we actually living in an age of rapid technological advance?
Links:
Conspiracy Theories, Left Futurism, and the Attack on TESCREAL, James Hughes & Eli Sennesh
/306/ AI Capitalism: Inhuman Power
/335/ AI & the End of the End of History
/446/ The Techno-Fantasy of Perfect Freedom ft. Amber Trotter
/488/ Homo-Techno, Homo-Solo ...Post-Homo? ft. Alex Gendler
The Obama-to-Yarvin Pipeline, Geoff Schullenberger, Compact Substack
On free speech, the tech right, and politicisation.
Geoff Shullenberger, managing editor at Compact, joins Alex and George to talk about Peter Thiel, René Girard, victimhood and the antichrist.
Does it make sense to talk of "right-wing cancel culture"? Is it different from the left's?
Is countercultural trolling in tension with "defending Western civilisation"?
What does René Girard argue about mimesis and scapegoating? Why have his theories become popular?
Is right-populism still politicising? How does it relate to libertarian anti-politics and hard-right militarisation?
How has Silicon Valley libertarianism adapted to the new state-capitalist disposition?
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Links:
René Girard and the Rise of Victim Power, Geoff Shullenberger, Compact
The Real Stakes, and Real Story, of Peter Thiel’s Antichrist Obsession, Laura Bullard, Wired
The Faith of Nick Land, Geoff Shullenberger, Compact
On places of ritual.
Architect Pier Paolo Tamburelli talks to Alex about his project to catalogue modern wonders – structures that are very big, that pretend to be ancient, and are mostly ugly.
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How has architecture lost its ritual dimension?
Why are these "modern wonders" kitsch? And why are they found the world over, from Munich to Malaysia, South Dakota to Dakar?
Do 'wonders' speak to a world where places remain distinct, and where conflicts and history seem to have returned?
Are disillusioned and cynical postmodern subjects searching for wonder?
Can architecture rebuild society?
Links:
Wonders of the Modern World, Arch+, issue 259
Wonders of the Modern World: Notes for a Research Programme, Pier Paolo Tamburelli, Arch+ (pdf attached in patreon)
What's wrong with the primitive hut?, Pier Paolo Tamburelli, San Rocco (pdf attached in patreon)
On 20 years since the 2005 riots.
Fred Lyra, philosopher and musicologist based in Paris, joins Alex to talk about France through 4 moments: 1995 – the last moment of classic class struggle; 2005 – riots in the banlieues; 2015 – Islamist terror; 2025 – government collapse.
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How were the riots normalised? And what was the state's response?
Why did the riots prompt debates about "models of integration"?
Why is there an "excess" of state in the banlieues, and an absence of state in left-behind smaller cities?
How did France go from the Nuits Debouts protests to the Gillet Jaunes – and how did they differ?
What about Bloquons Tout protests and the repeated fall of governments today?
Links:
The Peripherisation of France, Fred Lyra, A Terra É Redonda
Two, Three, or More Fractures in French Society?, Fred Lyra, A Terra É Redonda
Bonapartist Solutions, Dylan Riley, Sidecar
Nuits Debout: Up All Night, Fred Lyra, Lavra Palavra
On the weakness of state and capital – and their fusion.
Ilias Alami joins Alex and Lee to talk about his essential co-authored book, The Spectre of State Capitalism.
Why is state capitalism not just a China story, but is global?
What does the rise of state capitalism tell us about the health of contemporary capitalism?
How did globalisation and stagnation combine to give birth to it?
Is this an extension of neoliberalism or something new and different?
Does this represent a 're-politicisation' of the economy – and does it open up more hopeful political futures?
Links:
The Spectre of State Capitalism, Ilias Alami & Adam D Dixon, Oxford UP [OPEN ACCESS]
On living with modernity.
Richard J Williams talks to Alex and George about his new book, The Expressway World and how cities have adapted to the infrastructural legacies of the mid-20th century. We talk about New York, London, São Paulo, Madrid, Glasgow and Seoul.
Why do people hate expressways – and who actually loves them?
What are Big Man cities? How do expressways bring together populism, authoritarianism, and capital?
Why is the antidote to 20th century car-centricity always gentrified and sanitised public space?
What are the class struggles that emerge over the expressway world?
Is there a basic lie behind many "ecological" infrastructure projects?
Links:
The Expressway World, Richard J Williams, Polity
Intersections, Owen Hatherley, Sidecar
/113/ Globoville ft. Richard Williams
























I love Catherine because she always replies to my dumb comments on twitter
My takeaway from this is that John McAfee is off his fucking rocker. Holy shit, that maniacal laughter.