ROGUEMAKER: A Science Fiction Podcast

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Emma, Rook, and the rest of the ROGUEMAKER cast and crew answer YOUR burning questions!Transcript here. This transcript was done by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen.Astronify: https://astronify.readthedocs.io/en/latest/What ROGUEMAKER character are you? https://uquiz.com/quiz/T3F1ii/which-roguemaker-character-are-you

Chasma’s vlog is interrupted.CONTENT WARNINGS: spiders, mention of fantasy racism.This bonus episode, “chasmjumper54_vlog214_unedited.MOV”, was written by Rook Mogavero, and directed by Emma Johanna Puranen and Rook Mogavero. The script was edited by Emma Johanna Puranen and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices of:Rook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraSam Yeow as No GoOur vibe checker was Bruce the cat.

Malachi enlists Pascal's help to fix Ship.CONTENT WARNINGS (for the live show): memory loss.CONTENT WARNINGS (for the Q&A): discussion of panic attacks.ROGUEMAKER Live Show and Q&A recorded in High Wycombe at the Audio Drama Hub Podfest, 20 November 2022.  This live show, "Back Up", was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and edited by Rook Mogavero, with Oran Talbot running sound. The theme song was written and performed by Emily Branam. In order of appearance, this live show starred Alasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal Almagest.A transcript of this episode can be found here.

What real planet is Tand based on? How do you sound design a vacuum? Just how advanced were the Tracers, exactly? Join Rook, Emma, Sam Laporte, and Bonnie as they discuss all this and more in ROGUEMAKER: Behind the Science!Transcript available here. The transcript was made by Emma Johanna Puranen, Bonnie Calderwood Aspinwall, and Rook Mogavero.

You've heard our actors at their best: now hear them when they flub!Plus, a bonus silly song.Link to transcript.Vote in the Audio Verse Awards here!Submit questions for our Q&A here!

VOTE FOR ROGUEMAKER IN THE AUDIO VERSE AWARDS!: https://audioverseawards.net/Season finale. Alyss is left with the roguemaker, her memories, and a decision. But is she really alone?CONTENT WARNINGS: Death, gun, injury, peril, emotional distress, manipulation, self-sacrifice, entrapment, existential fear, food.This episode, “The Only Way Out”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White, with sensitivity reading by Caroline Mincks. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam and Tatyana Archtander, with music consultation from Nooria Ahmed, using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipSam Yeow as No GoStephen Indrisano as TarsulAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaThis episode also featuredMarta da Silva as MamaDavid S. Dear as PapaBeus Lunaire as SandrineAdditional voices were by Tatyana Archtander, Ali Hylton, Emma Johanna Puranen, Scott Paladin, Oran Talbot, Kirsty Woolven, Tal Minear, Interiority, and Oscar “Tumbleweed Tom” Ramos, Jr.Our vibe checker was Bruce the cat.

Frank discussions are had in the wake of the revelations about the roguemaker. As everyone tries to get some sleep, Kuzha slips away…CONTENT WARNINGS: Death, gun, medical talk, peril, emotional distress, manipulation, entrapment, existential fear.This episode, “Final Call”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White, with additional translations by Laura Uronen. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipStephen Indrisano as TarsulAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskSam Yeow as No GoAdditional transmissions were lent by Elena Asencio, Clara Brasseur, Gemma, Jerry Harris, Katerina Klos, Giacomo Mantovan, Nikko, Camilo Penaloza, Lucas Puranen, Timo Puranen, and Lauren Tucker.Our vibe checker was Bruce the cat.

Join Trip and Pascal on an....average?...workday on Epsilon Eridani Station.CONTENT WARNINGS: Injury, foodThis bonus episode, “Atmospheric Escape”, was written and directed by Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices of:Bonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychLeslie Gideon as EvaOur vibe checker was Bruce the cat.

The Titan launches a daring rescue attempt. Tarsul tells all about their time on the Phalanx. And Alyss reveals her plan, which may be in jeopardy given the true nature of the gas giant…CONTENT WARNINGS: Serious injury, sounds of pain, discussion of death, discussion of murder, gun, medical talk, peril, emotional distress, manipulation, entrapment, existential fear, food.This episode, “Starforsaken”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonSam Yeow as No GoAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychStephen Indrisano as TarsulAdditional transmissions were lent by Elena Asencio, Gemma, Katerina Klos, Giacomo Mantovan, Austin Nakamura, Nikko, Camilo Penaloza, Jeanette Puranen, and Timo Puranen.Our vibe checker was Bruce the cat.

A team searches the rogue for fuel for the Titan…but finds more activity than expected on this dead world.CONTENT WARNINGS: Peril, emotional distress, manipulation, entrapment, existential fear, discussion of death.This episode, “Only Dark Listening To Dark”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusStephen Indrisano as TarsulEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonSam Yeow as No GoBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraThis episode also featuredPaul Hikari as Amancio CarpenterJupiter Simpson as HieronymousAdditional transmissions were lent by Anonymous Backer, Elena Asencio, Rebekah B, Clara Brasseur, Olivia Cottle, Hana Davisson, Haden Ezekiel Felix, Gemma, Sean Gettys, Evan Greene, Jerry Harris, James Hart, Katerina Klos, Rebecca Krause, Rhys Lawton, Jacob Malin, Giacomo Mantovan, Austin Nakamura, Nikko, Alexsis Page, Camilo Penaloza, Lucas Puranen, Nathaniel Ziv Stern, and Lauren Tucker.Our vibe checker was Bruce the cat.This episode's title comes from the poem "Moonset" by Carl Sandburg.

It's Malachi's first day at Plutonic!CONTENT WARNINGS: Food mention.This bonus episode, “Names Down on the Papers”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices of:Alasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipStephen Indrisano as TarsulAdditional voices were lent by Griffin Berlstein and Katerina Klos.Our vibe checker was Bruce the cat.This episode's title is a quote from Moby Dick by Herman Melville.

The survivors learn the truth about their new surroundings. Snacks are eaten, songs are sung, ruins are explored, and one passenger's mask finally slips off.CONTENT WARNINGS: Gun, chemical weapon (gas), police, violence, peril, sounds of coughing, emotional distress, manipulation, entrapment, existential fear, food.This episode, “Shattered Visage”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaSam Yeow as No GoBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipStephen Indrisano as TarsulOur vibe checker was Bruce the cat.Today's episode title is from the poem "Ozymandias" by Percy Bysshe Shelley.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

After their harrowing experience in the pods, the survivors of Plutonic 999 finally reunite on Jawn’s ship – but tensions boil over as they prepare to take off to return home.CONTENT WARNINGS: Emotional distress, violence, peril, entrapment, existential fear, alcohol, manipulation, food, discussion of injury.This episode, “Lost and Found”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Additional script contributions were provided by Daria Syskine. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofStephen Indrisano as TarsulEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonSam Yeow as No GoLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskAdditional voices were lent by Jeanette Puranen and Emma Johanna Puranen.Our vibe checker was Bruce the Cat.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

The pods finally get in contact with each other, but a power trip from the Captain makes the chances of rescue seem slim…until a new voice cuts through the noise.CONTENT WARNINGS: Emotional distress, peril, entrapment, existential fear, alcohol, manipulation.This episode, “Uplink/Downlink”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects are from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganNhea Durousseau as Alyss ObelusLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskSam Yeow as No GoAlasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraStephen Indrisano as TarsulRook Mogavero as Chasma Jump CannonSam LaPorte as Jawn BatalhaOur vibe checker was Bruce the Cat.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

Separated from one another, the survivors of Plutonic Flight 999 face the greatest communication glitch of all: bombardment by relentless advertisements.  Kuzha and Trip discuss their journeys. No tries to calm an anxious Pascal.CONTENT WARNINGS: Distress, peril, entrapment, existential fear, alcohol, drug mention.This episode, “More Popular Than Populous”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen and William R. Coughlan. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. Postproduction services for Row 12 and Sirius Revel Six commercial segments licensed through Storyblocks.com and provided by Tohubohu Productions, LLC. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestSam Yeow as No GoAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh́́ OllumAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipThis episode also featured Artemis Eales as Row 12 CommercialJulia Lynn Barnes as Gnonw Children’s Book NarratorIshani Kanetkar as Darcy FleetChristopher Wilson as Ampt KruAdditional voices were lent by William R. Coughlan, Anna Coughlan, and Joshua Matuszeski.Our vibe checker was Bruce the Cat.This episode's title is a reference to the poem "But Outer Space" by Robert Frost.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

Adrift in the escape pods, Alyss records a final message. Malachi gets in contact with a mysterious stowaway.CONTENT WARNINGS: Distress, on-screen panic attack, peril, entrapment, existential fear, cult mention, death mention, murder mention, gun mention.This episode, “Odd-Size Baggage”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White, with sensitivity reading by Caroline Mincks. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen and William R. Coughlan. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. A transcript of this episode can be found here.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofNhea Durousseau as Alyss Obelus Emma Johanna Puranen as ShipAlasdair Stuart as Malachi Tessera Rook Mogavero as Pod TenThis episode also featured Calder McClure as Tracer Documentary NarratorOliver Herbort as Kuth MudwoNooria Ahmed as Dr SangJupiter Simpson as HieronymousJames Takahashi as Textbook NarratorAnna Christensen as Textbook AdAdditional voices were lent by William R. Coughlan and Anna Coughlan.Our vibe checker was Bruce the Cat.Sound effects from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. Postproduction services for the Dr Sang Will See You Now commercial segment licensed through Storyblocks.com and provided by Tohubohu Productions, LLC. Gravitational microlensing music created with Astronify, Copyright (c) 2020, Clara Brasseur, Scott Fleming, Jennifer Kotler, Kate Meredith under license here, using data from 'A Terrestrial-mass Rogue Planet Candidate Detected in the Shortest-timescale Microlensing Event' by Mróz et al, 2020.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

Plutonic Flight 999 is well underway from Epsilon Eridani to Sirius Spa & Station Resort…until the alarm starts sounding.CONTENT WARNINGS: Distress, peril, turbulence, transportation accident, entrapment, isolation, claustrophobia, existential fear.This episode, “Manifest”, was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. The script was edited by Rook Mogavero and Shaoni C. White. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen. The Haro’s theme was composed by Georgia White. Our cover art is by Tatyana Archtander. Music was composed by Emily Branam using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects from freesound.org under CC 0, CC BY 3.0, and CC BY 4.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. A transcript of this episode can be found here or on our website, www.roguemaker.space.In order of appearance, this episode featured the voices ofEmma Johanna Puranen as Ship Alasdair Stuart as Malachi Tessera Omar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey Madigan Alexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh́́ Ollum Liz Morey as Kuzha Tvask Sam Yeow as No Go Bonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal Almagest Axandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychStephen Indrisano as Tarsul.This episode also featured Xoe Porterfield as Ring On It Commercial Isabell Donaldson as Launch Director Nhea Durousseau as Passenger with Headphones JP Sindel as the Newscaster Ben “Books” Schwartz as the Haro’s Commercial.Additional voices were lent by Alice Kyra, Borkvox, Reuben Ashcroft, Fey Harmon, Mel Nichols, Tais Grimberg, Pandora Beatrix, Erin Carney, Sonja Dahl, Daniel Santoy, and Cam Clark.Our vibe checker was Bruce the Cat.Buy us a coffee at http://ko-fi.com/roguemaker 

Well, it's April 1st, so why not put out a surprise "If ROGUEMAKER were a comedy..." trailer? Enjoy!ROGUEMAKER: A Science Fiction Podcast premieres May 4th, 2022.Monkeys Spinning Monkeys Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0A transcript of this trailer can be found here.This trailer features the voices of Emma Johanna Puranen as NarratorStephen Indrisano as The CaptainAlasdair Stuart as The Flight AttendantEmma Johanna Puranen as The AISam Yeow as The BotanistLiz Morey as The WandererBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as The AstronomerAxandre Oge as The SpacerAlexandra Rose DeAngelis and Omar Camps-Kamrin as The BandmatesNhea Durousseau as The OutlawRook Mogavero as The Stowaway

Ten passengers on a commercial spaceflight are stranded in escape pods in deep space. With nothing but a glitchy radio for company, can they figure out who sabotaged their flight, and how to get home? Or will they find more than they bargained for? ROGUEMAKER: A Science Fiction Podcast is premiering on May 4th, 2022.ROGUEMAKER: Official Trailer was written by Emma Johanna Puranen and directed by Rook Mogavero and Emma Johanna Puranen. Sound editing was by Emma Johanna Puranen and William R. Coughlan. Original music was composed by Emily Branam and Georgia White. Music was composed using copyright cleared content (or free content) within Emily's licensed and registered version of FL Studio 20. Sound effects from freesound.org under CC 0 and CC BY 3.0 licenses. For a list of freesound.org sound effects used in this episode, see here. Postproduction services for Row 12, Dr Sang Will See You Now, and Sirius Revel Six commercial segments licensed through Storyblocks.com and provided by Tohubohu Productions, LLC. Our cover art was by Tatyana Archtander. A transcript of this trailer can be found here. For more info, check out our website.This trailer featured the voices of: Alasdair Stuart as Malachi TesseraAlexandra Rose DeAngelis as Woh OllumAxandre Oge as Valencio “Trip” TriptychBonnie Calderwood Aspinwall as Pascal AlmagestEmma Johanna Puranen as ShipLiz Morey as Kuzha TvaskNhea Durousseau as OutlawOmar Camps-Kamrin as Lowkey MadiganRook Mogavero as StowawaySam Yeow as No GoStephen Indrisano as TarsulThis episode also featured the voices of: Artemis Eales, Ben “Books” Schwartz, Calder McClure, Christopher Wilson, Ishani Kanetkar, Jerry Harris, JP Sindel, Oliver Herbort, Olivia Cottle, Rebecca Krause, Sam Laporte, Sean Gettys, and William R. Coughlan.