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More Train, Less Pain; Engineering the Adaptable Athlete

Author: Dr. Michelle Boland & Dr. Tim Richardt

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The More Train, Less Pain podcast is hosted by Dr. Michelle Boland and Dr. Tim Richardt and is specifically designed around engineering the adaptable athlete. The podcast will bring you the most knowledgeable guests in the fields of strength and conditioning and physical therapy, as well as episodes consisting of topic “deep-dives”. Our aim is to elevate YOUR understanding as a movement professional, to give you the knowledge, and the tools to deliver an even better service to your people, whoever they may be.
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On today’s episode Michelle sits down with Darcie Murphy - an elite running and pro ultramarathon coach to discuss the mental components of endurance racing and how to prepare for the low points. In this episode we discuss racing vs finishing, athletes being coachable, the importance of having a spectrum of experiences and exposure to situations, fully committing to a race, mental tactics for facing discomfort, how to prepare for the highs and lows in endurance racing, honoring an athlete’s personality, and mental coaching when the physical isn't the limitation. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… 2025 Boston Health & Performance Summit November 2nd:  https://www.reframeperformance.com/2025-bhps  Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim:  ascendrehabandperformance.com or @ascend_rehab_and_performance
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim kick off Season 6 with an in-depth look at injury prevention for runners. In this episode they discuss tendon length with loading, common running injuries, excessive specificity, management strategies, an inverse relationship between running volume and movement quality, the ability to tolerate workload, specific rehab exercises, cross-training to offset tendencies, and much more. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… 2025 Boston Health & Performance Summit November 2nd:  https://www.reframeperformance.com/2025-bhps  Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim:  ascendrehabandperformance.com or @ascend_rehab_and_performance
Tim’s joined by Danny “DAC” Cardona, powerlifting and mindset coach extraordinaire for a far-ranging discussion concerning what other movement disciplines can learn from powerlifting, powerlifting programming concepts, the role of accessory lifts in a strength program, teaching/learning movement and correcting “form”, the dark side of athletic identity and much, much more. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim sit down to discuss their top three themes and lessons from Season 5. In this episode they discuss certainty, the artistic analysis of running mechanics, running not having much to do with conditioning, the fallacy that more range of motion is better, “explore then exploit”, the skill of cueing, the value of the principle “structure dictates function”, and much more. Tim and Michelle will return in September 2025 for Season 6! Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim sit down to discuss specific exercises and cues that they use for runners. In this episode, expect to learn how the ‘hardware’ determines what is possible for the ‘software’ of running, why runners need to bounce instead of push, cues to improve running stride, why more ab training may be detrimental to running, and much more. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle sits down with…herself and takes you through a summer program for a D1 Football athlete. In this episode, she discusses how to find a balance between preparing an athlete for a D1 Football S&C program, testing expectations, and pre-season while maintaining your own training principles. Michelle reviews injury history, program modifications, athlete goals, and outlines her exact phase one training program for an athlete entering into a D1 Football program.  Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle sits down with one of our most popular guests of the podcast, Dr. Mike Camporini, DPT to talk about weight room training strategies for golfers. In this episode, Mike breaks down the three major phases of the golf swing from the feet to the hips and how trainers can use the information to cue and modify exercises. Michelle and Mike also discuss the spectrum of sport vs. individual specific exercise selection, medicine ball throws, working from the ground up, gut movement, practical training strategies for the recreational golfer, and much more. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode I help Tim out with a book review - Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor. In this episode expect to learn how nasal breathing can impact sleep, low and high intensity exercise, what practical strategies you can implement with yourself and your clientele to get an advantage, how mouth taping and nose strips can help, what gum to chew, and Tim’s overall thoughts about the book and his self-experimentation. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
In this episode, we count down Dr. Tim’s top 5 recommendations for optimizing post-operative recovery. From the efficacy (?) of icing and maintaining the right mindset to challenging outdated time-based protocols, we break down what truly helps speed healing. We also explore the tactical use of assistive devices (and what this has to do with Atomic Habits) and strategies for maintaining fitness during recovery. Whether you're recovering from surgery or supporting someone who is, these tips will help you navigate the journey with confidence. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
What can distance runners learn from sprinters? Speed expert Derek Hansen joins us to break it down. We dive into his 10x10 protocol for hamstring recovery, the power of “up” vs. “push” in sprinting, and the balance between individualized mechanics and a universal technical model. Plus, why all runners—yes, even distance runners—need to sprint. Don’t miss this one! Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim explore narratives in the fitness industry that can both help facilitate change or create limitations. In this episode we discuss how your clients create stories around an identity, how you can help change those stories, how to supply your clients with evidence for confidence, why ‘should’ statements aren’t useful, obsessions with diagnoses, and practical strategies for helping your clients author their own stories. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle RUNS through topics related to strength training for endurance athletes with Pro Coach Sarah Scozzaro. Sarah specializes in ultrarunning while both coaching athletes and competing in several 100 mile,100k and 50 mile events herself. On today’s episode, expect to learn why strength training is rising in the ultrarunning world, how to get runners started in the weight room, why all runners need to be good hing-ers, and why coaches should take some of the thinking out of strength training for athletes. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim sit down to hash out past business mistakes, lessons, and advice for other fitness pros and physical therapists. We love diving down biomechanical rabbit holes and talking about exercise selection for hours, but if you aren’t creating a successful business your days may be numbered. In today's episode, expect to learn why you should schedule follow-ups, why you should assess marketing strategies, why a recurring offer is a good idea, why you should stop being threatened by other professionals, how to think long term, and why the overall patient experience matters.  Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle sits down with Adam Loiacono, owner of Loiacono Performance Therapy in Scottsdale, AZ. Adam has over 15 years of experience providing rehabilitation and performance training to professional & youth athletes. His career includes reaching the NBA Finals with the Phoenix Suns and the MLS Cup with the New England Revolution. On today’s episode, expect to learn why you should create a story about yourself, tips for growing a business, what life in the NBA is like, why general adaptations make athletes successful, and how to scale specificity. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Back almost 3 years after his first appearance on More Train, Less Pain, Lance Goyke rejoins Tim to talk simplifying velocity based-training, designing workouts for busy people, leaving the (full time) fitness industry, and *most importantly* best pop punk albums of the 2000s. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
On today’s episode Michelle gets PEAK FAST with Ryan Patrick, owner of Peak Fitness & Sports Training in Erlanger, Kentucky. On today’s episode, expect to learn how Ryan realized that max strength wasn’t translating into speed, why you shouldn’t rush progress with youth athletes, how to avoid drill surfing by having a decision making framework, how to use bodyweight movements for assessment, and strategies for speed development using sleds. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle steals David Grey as a guest on the podcast from Tim’s lineup and talks about his curiosity, decision making, and how he prescribes his knowledge. On today’s episode expect to learn how David helps his clients interpret their problems, the best strategies for learning, why simplicity is driven from complexity, the best questions to ask clients, the difference between variety and variability, and why accuracy is more important than range of movement. Sit down, kick up your feet, and get out your notebook for this one. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle and Tim discuss their top three most hated coaching cues. Coaching cues are meant to anchor an exercise, provide a focal point, and represent intent. Cues aren’t meant to be applied to all, so Michelle and Tim dial in on when and why to use specific cues. In this episode expect to learn why “squeezing your glutes” is ineffective for cueing the deadlift, why you should be mindful about over-tucking your hips and over-reaching, why shin angles matter, cueing mistakes Michelle & Tim have made, and why word choice is key to positive outcomes. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle sits down with…herself and takes you through her 100 mile ultramarathon goal. In this episode, she discusses why she is pursuing this goal, her nine-month macro programming plan, her pre-race schedule, training considerations and variables, and why comparing yourself to an elite athlete is a bad training strategy. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
Michelle and Tim have talked about this a fair amount on recent podcasts but if you’re someone, like them, who tends to go pretty deep down biomechanical rabbit holes there’s a tendency to “lose sight” of what we love about fitness and rehab in the first place. When Tim starts to feel that existential dread creeping up, there’s three names in our field that are a surefire panacea for rekindling his stoke to train and get people moving and feeling better; David Grey, Joel Smith, and, today’s guest, Angus Bradley. Angus (the King of General Physical Preparedness) is an Australian podcaster, educator, and physical preparation coach. He co-hosts the Hypeperformance, all one word, podcast which has made its way into Tim’s listening rotation over the past year or so. Angus has a wide-spanning knowledge base from both in and outside of the strength and conditioning field, with a focus on inter-disciplinary over-arching principles. He works with a diverse crowd from strongman to surfing and runs regular mentorships for strength coaches and personal trainers. In this conversation Tim and Angus dive into the tension between biomechanical perfectionism a la FMS/PRI/UHPC and the BPS model, utilizing strategies for either end of that continuum to best help the client in front of you, Angus’s unique take on GPP and what he feels is plaguing the gen pop fitness industry in general, guiding clients for non-chalant about exercise to stark-raving fitness lunatics, cornering people at parties to talk about the gait cycle, and much, much more. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends… Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/ Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
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