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For The Kudos is a running podcast by Australian elite distance runners Brett Robinson and Joel Tobin-White. Expect professional athlete training insights, race predictions and recaps, and a star studded guest list - all done with plenty of humility, banter, and piss taking that will keep you riveted and coming back each week for more.
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What a week for The Fall Guys, as Brett emerges victorious under the bright lights of Box Hill - but will it be enough to win the Cam Myers Award? There’s plenty of running news to get through - Gout Gout, Keely, Osaka Marathon, and more. Plus, we find out who blocked Brett on Instagram this week, and we learn the population of Norway.
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It’s not quite Hamish and Andy but the next best thing of Fraser and Andy this week as Riley is away sick. There’s Winter Olympics chat, Andy does some sponsor work and training while Fraser gets a second opinion and takes up residence in the sauna. Fraser also shamelessly copies another of his favourite radio segments to finish the show.
An absolute mammoth episode for you all here. Two fantastic races from our OG and 2025 FTK hosts.
TRAINING WEEKS
Brett kicks things off taking the listeners through his week of training from Monday to Sunday last week. Technically his race recap should be in next week's episode but they're always more interesting hot off the press and Brett selflessly doesn't want to take the spotlight away from Joel's pacing recap next week. As for Jack he extends his training week slightly to give some context behind coach Nic's plan to ensure he didn't miss too much training with his race-week flight to Barcelona. Jack gives us a play-by-play of his Australian record run.
THE BIG Q
Thanks to FTK "Friend Of The Show" Nick Watson for posing a question on what choices a runner should make when their performances have stagnated for a couple of years. Brett, Jack & Joel discuss when's the right time to make a coach change, swap race distance goals or even more training location.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Brett & Jack give Kudos to each other this week (definitely well deserved) while Joel sends his to Maciek (Magic Moments) for his stellar filming skills at the Box Hill Burn 5000m.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Brett has three submissions in his arsenal this week (this will likely result in him arriving empty handed next episode) while Jack isn't sure about the bloke that's been breaking Marathon "records" in Jeans. Joel closes out the episode with a shout out to the TikTok edits of Shrek competing on the track.
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Welcome to the big leagues, boys.
For those new to TFG, each episode begins with a "cold open"... meaning we hit record as soon as we jump on the call!
So please stick with us through the first few minutes of awkwardness and planning until we get warmed up and the show officially starts. Think of it like the first k on your recovery jog.
Jack Rayner give the boys plenty to talk about after his NR in the Half Marathon on Sunday, The Australian domestic season is underway with the Perth Track Classic and it's race week for Brett.
After Brett's been rabbiting on about the "cold opening's" for far too long, Joel decides he'll try his hand at one.
TRAINING WEEKS
Brett lays down another big week of training which sees a shock return to Victoria's much loved racing course - Caulfield. Joel battles sickness but manages one weekend run as he confidently assumes he'll still manage the 9:00min 3000m at the Pulse 5000m on 25/2.
THE BIG Q
Joel's athlete Sam Friend asks his coach a question on when exactly to tackle a HM race in a M block. This leads to a lengthy conversation from Brett and Joel, speaking as both athletes and coaches on when and how to place a 21.1km distance race as you're peaking for a full distance competition.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Brett kicks off this segment by shouting out his Japanese training partners who are back in Melbourne training with MTC. Jude sends his kudos to fellow Queenslander Liam Boudin on his recent Marugame HM result. Joel closes out the segment with someonerunning related, in Jimmy Gressier.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Joel isn't sure about a typical Sydney-sider runfluencer run club. Brett takes down fellow FTK co-hosts Grego & Joel while Jude turns detective to shed light on Jimmy Whelan's recent signing with Salomon. This leads to an agreement between the hosts on the certain social media rules (restrictions) that Jimmy must follow if he is to feature on the FTK main show.
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Brett & Joel record over zoom this week as Brett doesn't want to risk catching whatever Joel has.
TRAINING WEEKS
Joel kicks the segment off with his big Sunday run that featured 500m at 2:55/k pace (stress-fracture incoming?). Brett starts the serious running with another three solid weeks, culminating in his first laps + hills workout at Wattle in over 12 months.
THE BIG Q
"Friend Of The Show" Frankie poses a question primarily to elite runners, which leads to a lengthy conversation on the harsh self-evaluations runners make on their race performances.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Brett swaps the running shoes for cycling cleats this week to talk all things carbo-loading. Joel swaps carbs for crustaceans as he promotes oyster-loading to the listeners.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Brett has plenty of questions for a particularly talented FTK listener while Joel highlights an absolutely cooked reel of a woman channeling Kanye West (just you wait until you see this). Joel closes out the episode throwing in a bonus video for the listeners.
PULSE 5000M:
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Like it or not but the Fall Guys are sticking to their cold open and clicking record as soon as the zoom call starts. Who knows what listeners are going to get in those first few minutes.
Cam Myers!!!! What can't he do! A super Impressive 7.27 3000m at the New Balance Indoor games in Boston while easily dominating a quality field. Linden Hall and Sarah Billings both open up their season well while Jess Hull with a very rare sub par performance.
Boston and Tokyo Marathon fields are out and its marathon season again for the Australians!
If Cam Myers wins AOTW the award will be renamed in his honour.
Brett and Joel decide to switch up the energy for their second week back on the airwaves - this time relaxing into "sleuth" mode on Brett's 100m long couch.
TRAINING WEEKS
Brett officially puts his niggle behind him as he pushes the envelope in his Tuesday workout, cruises through a threshold on gravel and backs it up with a solid hit out at Wattle Park. Joel has plenty of questions for Brett surrounding his current fitness level and the benefits of switching to three weekly workouts. Keeping with the trend of "three" - Joel banks 3x runs for the week while surviving a fall in his new favourite sport.
Interview with Ashley Campbell - The Running Footwear Expert Product Line Manager at Nike.
Last week Joel sat down with Ashley, calling in from Nike HQ to chat all things footwear - specifically the fresh Nike Vomero range which includes the Plus & Premium models, as well as a deep-dive on the Nike Structure Plus. This one is for all the shoe heads!
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Brett sends his segment towards the direction of an underground talent - Cam Myers (his first award on the FTK network?) while Joel congratulates an old friend of his and FTK's.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
After an early stumble Brett finds his feet and goes after the runners that cut the course in the recent Valencia 10k (or was it the HM?). Joel closes out the episode with a recap of a recreational road race overseas that saw a podium-promise "yeeted" into a nearby field.
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Brett and Joel sincerely apologise (no we don't) for the dB-meter-breaking laughs that are audible throughout this episode (recorded earlier today). They're obviously very excited to be back in the studio after a 12 month hiatus.
TRAINING WEEK
Brett takes the listeners through his training week while shedding light on a recent glute-scare (previously only known to "FTK Friends of the Show) that (thankfully) is all but fully healed. Joel asks him why he chose not to head up the mountain to Falls Creek to join his training partners which leads to a long conversation on training smart and peaking at the right time of the year. To contradict training smart - Joel updates the listeners on where he's at and announces a high-pressure pacing gig for the end of Feb.
BIG Q
With the Pulse 5000m next month Brett & Joel answer a question that was asked at Tuesday evening's PTC workout regarding goal-time-strategy for the 12.5 laps of the track.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Trying out a new personality in 2026, Joel decides to take the piss for the first GSK (don't sue us GlaxoSmithKline) of the year. Brett holds up the integrity of the segment by highlighting the upcoming Pulse 5000m.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Joel kicks off the segment with a reel from a bloke completing a 5000m Strava run on the top of his fridge while Brett gets absolutely punk'd by his co-host in repeating a submission from last week.
PULSE 5000M:
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It's fantastic to be back on the airwaves - see you all next week :)
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The Fall Guys return for their first episode of 2026 feeling refreshed and putting 2025 behind them. Brett is embracing being a track runner once again, Ryan has temporarily relocated south for some cooler conditions and Riley is still deciding what running path to take in 2026.
Lots of fast times over the weekend from Houston and Valencia but most importantly Australia are the World Champs at World XC!
Jack, Joel & Tess jump online together for one last episode before we see another change up (return?) in 2026 programming (any guesses?)
The episode begins with a long recap of what the crew got up to over their breaks before semi-regular programming begins.
Note: This episode was recorded late last week as a "Goodbye" episode so if you're looking for a World XC Results summary then you won't find it here (let's be real - the main FTK show is not where you find deep dives on World Athletics results).
Jack, Joel and Tess thank you all sincerely for the immense support throughout 2025 - our FTK Patreon community especially.
Let's bring on 2026 <3
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It’s a huge week on the show this week as all 3 of the boys clock some miles. There’s plenty of chat about World XC before we get into training weeks, and a few side quests along the way (tennis, Lorne, and more). We finish with some exciting news about the future of the show
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Happy New Year to all our listeners, 2 Fast 2 Furious is back for 2026! The boys are in great spirits to start the year off, and they kick off the show with some chat about goal setting and how they plan out the year. We then get into some training weeks with some typical behaviour from Fraser, while Andy builds his return to running. The show ends with some chat about the rest of January.
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TRAINING WEEKS
Jack takes us through his training week in the lead up to his 3rd place at the Zatopek:10 Australian 10,000m Championships. Tess lays down a solid week while Joel stays true to his brand in hurting his toes kicking a foam football.
BIG Q
"Friend Of The Show" Alex Smith asks the team for their Christmas present recommendations for runners.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Tess sends her kudos to a running show while Jack boasts about his impressive Nalgene water-bottle collection. Joel shouts out the new Halfy from Better Beer.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess & Jack join forces to question why on earth Stewy McSweyn was rinsing his hands with water he'd just expelled from his mouth at Zatopek. Joel closes out the episode with an Instagram reel of a bloke trying his hardest to belt out the lyrics to Bomfunk Mc's hit "Freestyler".
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TRAINING WEEKS
Joel has a good start to the week before trailing off in the back half as he is struck down with Tess' famous lack of motivation. Tess cracks 80k for the week with a strong PTC workout. Jack lays down a strong week of training which closes out with him pacing Matilda to a massive PB.
BIG Q
Tess leads a conversation on chasing weight-loss as a runner and why it can become problematic. The crew also chat through the differences between being an elite athlete and a recreational runner are when it comes to "getting lighter".
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Jack sends his kudos to Matilda for the PB while Tess big ups an alcohol free weekend. Joel closes out the segment highlighting the 44 Flats United (see their Instagram here) initiative after the tragic passing of friend Max Ryan.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess isn't sure about her missing out on a Melbourne Marathon entry while Jack isn't sure about the 2XU Wellness Run coming up slightly short. Joel shines the spotlight towards his mate Dave McNeil for going off the front at the recent World XC Trials at Stromlo.
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This week the team are back together, recording from the very noisy Abbotsford studio!
TRAINING WEEKS
Tess goes through her training week which consisted of a Sydney based workout (if we're calling it that) and her first threshold in a few weeks. Joel continues his progression with jogging and meets Riley up in the Dandenong Ranges to shoot the new Icebreaker range. Jack lays down a solid week of training in true Jack Rayner fashion.
BIG Q
The team cater to another anonymous caller - this time asking for them to announce how they see Valencia Marathon unfolding with regards to the Australian athletes.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Tess boosts up a recent podcast episode (not from FTK) while Jack sheds light on a "very interesting" documentary sent to him by his good friend Harry. Joel breaks up the intellectual sandwich by giving his kudos to a roasted foodstuff.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Jack isn't sure about all the "victims" of the fresh faced running results mafia page. Tess isn't sure about a certain runner "free-balling" which leads to a conversation on said topic. Joel closes out the segment and the episode by bringing up a recent video Brett filmed privately and will now (due to pressure from Jack and Tess) be shared as a reel on the FTK page.
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You'll enjoy plenty of typical FTK antics before the team take you through their training weeks.
TRAINING WEEKS
Tess has a strong start to the week leading the PTC session at Princes Park before dropping the ball due to low motivation which leads to a conversation around her future coaching choice. Jack lays down a strong week - just short of 120km and Joel continues his return to run program, while making a promise that he will share his road to fitness with his Strava followers.
BIG Q
The Big Q is answered by Brett & Joel this week - thanks to Priscilla Barrington, the guys discuss what it really means for running now that entry into most major races is through a ballot system.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Joel spreads his kudos across three of his favourite Melbourne based record stores in Alley Tunes, HUB 301 and Skydiver while Tess gives another running tip (she's just giving kudos to herself lately). Jack sends his Kudos to Serena's Tuna Chilli Oil Pasta.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess goes after Eliud's "drip" while Jack uses this segment to go after Tess and her "Give Some Kudos" last week. Joel wraps up the episode discussed a true "worlds collide" piece of footage from NY Marathon.
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You'll enjoy plenty of typical FTK antics before the team take you through their training weeks.
TRAINING WEEKS
Tess has a strong start to the week leading the PTC session at Princes Park before dropping the ball due to low motivation which leads to a conversation around her future coaching choice. Jack lays down a strong week - just short of 120km and Joel continues his return to run program, while making a promise that he will share his road to fitness with his Strava followers.
BIG Q
The Big Q is answered by Brett & Joel this week - thanks to Priscilla Barrington, the guys discuss what it really means for running now that entry into most major races is through a ballot system.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Joel spreads his kudos across three of his favourite Melbourne based record stores in Alley Tunes, HUB 301 and Skydiver while Tess gives another running tip (she's just giving kudos to herself lately). Jack sends his Kudos to Serena's Tuna Chilli Oil Pasta.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess goes after Eliud's "drip" while Jack uses this segment to go after Tess and her "Give Some Kudos" last week. Joel wraps up the episode discussed a true "worlds collide" piece of footage from NY Marathon.
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Apologies for the delay in posting this episode guys - for the first time in three years of podcasting the online audio files were corrupted so it took a big effort to pull this together. If Jack's voice sounds strange in the back half of the episode you can choose to either blame the audio or his hay fever.
TRAINING WEEKS
Tess goes first with her training week which leads to a good discussion on not overreaching in threshold's. Jack returns to training with a very impressive Tuesday workout but swiftly humbled come the Friday workout. Joel's return to run program is well underway as he battles with a severely high HR.
BIG Q
The team answer what they believe to be their number one recovery tool to ensure they can back up day-to-day with their training.
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Joel keeps the music theme going by giving his kudos to an impressive show from the Gallagher brothers. Tess swaps kudos for a recommendation to all dog owners out there, while Jack boasts about his latest two-wheeled purchase.
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess isn't sure about the GOAT's long-sleeve choice in New York while Jack isn't sure about the recent "Treadmill World Championships". Joel decides to swap out his Instagram segment by updating the listeners on Jimmy Whelan's patreon-status (if you're a patreon and check the comments section this will be old news).
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The team record online this week due to scheduling difficulties to bring you a very typical FTK episode. Some deep chats, a bunch of very shallow chats...oh and some running too.
TRAINING WEEKS
Tess sees improvement week to week in her workouts on her road back to race fitness. Jack enjoys the last week of his relaxed scheduled before knuckling back down next week...oh and finally Joel goes for a run.
BIG Q
The team answer what their death row meal would be!
GIVE SOME KUDOS
Joel sends his kudos to two bands he saw during the week - Acopia and These New South Whales (funnily enough the lead signers Kate and Jamie have been dating for many moons). This leads to a story later on in TWHSOITWTWATSA on Nick (Tess's partner) discovering FTK for the first time via the The These New South Whales podcast. Jack is giving his kudos to downtime and relaxing post major races. Tess introduces a new way of thinking with the "five minute method".
TWHSOITWTWATSA
Tess isn't sure about an orchestra playing for a group of runners traversing through a museum in Amsterdam. Jack follows up on the news of a recent doping violation as said athlete blamed her housemate for swallowing a mystery pill. Sam Maurer (who sends FTK 70000 videos per week) finally gets his video brought up on the episode.
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