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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Author: Armand Farrokh & Nick Cegelski

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The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual.


30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including:


  • Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline

  • Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain

  • Process: How to get big contracts over the line

  • Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams.


Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach). 


Whether you're seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show…


Get ready, you're going to President's Club.

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Learn more: https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course -- ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Structure Your Call in 3 Parts: Great discovery calls have three distinct chapters—(1) the first five minutes to establish credibility and set your PPO agenda (Purpose, Plan, Outcome), (2) the next 20 minutes to uncover meaningful problems while building trust, and (3) the last five minutes to run your Five Minute Drill and determine if it’s worth setting a next step. Use Discovery Trees to Guide Questions: Map out your prospect’s problems in four layers—situation, operational pain, executive problem, and business impact. Use simple transitions like “so what?” to climb down the tree, and reverse it when execs start with big priorities. Don’t just ask questions—build a roadmap first. Balance Give and Take: If you only ask questions, you’re interrogating. Use playbacks, pile-ons, praise, and parallel stories to add value throughout the call and build trust. Use vertical questions to go deeper on one topic instead of jumping all over the place. Run a Tight Five Minute Drill: In the last five minutes, validate if they want to solve the problem, when they want to solve it, and how they buy. Suggest the timeline and buying process based on what you’ve seen work—not what they think they should do. If they’re serious, schedule the next step while you’re still on the call.
Full video HERE' The fastest way to reach the executive who can green-light your deal: write the email they’ll actually read. Nate Nasralla breaks down two real examples of emails you can draft for your champion to forward directly to their boss. Instead of selling to your champion, write the message so they can sell through them. Open with a priority the executive already cares about so the email immediately feels relevant. Use insights from discovery to highlight the tension or bottleneck slowing the team down. Then close with an executive-level ask—getting their take on a decision, tradeoff, or pilot. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 💰 Exec Selling Course: https://bit.ly/4lCtJh7 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Buy Brief & Brilliant here Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Most sellers obsess over asking the perfect discovery question. In this episode, Gal Aga breaks down why great discovery has nothing to do with memorized questions and everything to do with understanding the problem, finding the root cause, and guiding the buying process. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Focus on the problem, root cause, and impact you need to uncover, not memorizing discovery questions. Only prep the first 5–10 minutes with a POV and agenda, then let the conversation flow. Bring a point of view from research so buyers feel understood and the discussion starts deeper. Treat discovery as something you continue throughout the deal, especially with new stakeholders. GAL’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: CEO & Co-Founder of Aligned 21 years in B2B sales, including AE, Sales Director, VP Sales and CRO roles Built 5 sales orgs from scratch: These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course 💼 Selling to the C-Suite Course 📧 Cold Email Course ☎️ Cold Call Course 🔮 Discovery Course 🛠️ Free Toolkits Get More Tactics: How To Win More Deals Using The Give/Gets Equilibrium Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Full video HERE A seasoned CRO grabs the phone, goes undercover as “Bob Smith,” and makes live cold calls trying to book five connects as fast as possible. No script reading. No brand flex. Just real dials, real objections, and real pressure. You’ll hear the exact opener that gets people talking, the provocative question that instantly hooks sales leaders, and the “Green Turkey” move that turns any answer into momentum. There’s a meeting booked by backing off instead of pushing, referrals created on the fly, and a few brutal rejections along the way. If you want to know what cold calling actually sounds like in the wild and what it really takes to generate pipeline on the phone, this episode delivers. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course 💼 Selling to the C-Suite Course 📧 Cold Email Course ☎️ Cold Call Course 🔮 Discovery Course 🛠️ Free Toolkits Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
In this sales leadership masterclass, Marcus Chan breaks down a week-by-week ramp plan, real-play coaching system, and time management framework that turns new hires into consistent revenue producers fast. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Tee reps up instead of taking over calls: Guide them toward the next talk track rather than jumping in and owning the conversation. Create a parking lot for leadership ideas: Capture thoughts in a 1:1 doc instead of sending reactive Slack messages that distract the team. Make role play part of the culture — not just onboarding: Demonstrate first, give one clear improvement at a time, and practice right after real calls. Show reps what a President’s Club week looks like: Build a clear calendar blueprint so they know how to structure their time to win. MARCUS’ PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Sales Leader @ Multiple Orgs (3–110 reps) - Hit President’s Club 9/10 years, drove $190M new business, ran $195M P&L. Corporate Sales Professional @ 2 Fortune 500 Companies - Promoted 12x in 8 years, #1 in every role. Author & Thought Leader - WSJ Best-Selling Author, featured in Forbes, Yahoo! Finance, Salesforce. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course 💼 Selling to the C-Suite Course 📧 Cold Email Course ☎️ Cold Call Course 🔮 Discovery Course 🛠️ Free Toolkits Get More Tactics: How ELITE Sales People Structure Their Day Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Full Video HERE We did the one thing you’re never supposed to do: We tried to blast our entire contact list of 224,000 people. But instead of sending generic spam, we built a workflow in Clay to automate the deep research usually reserved for one-off emails. The goal? To find sales leaders whose *own reps* were already watching our content, and use that data to send 6,000+ hyper-personalized messages at scale. In this video, we break down the exact 5-step workflow we used to filter our list, the "Trojan Horse" data strategy we used to personalize every single message, and the honest results of the campaign (including the big mistake that cost us thousands of opens). ====== GET THE RESOURCES FROM THIS VIDEO - Steal the Clay Prospecting Table we used: https://app.clay.com/shared-workbook/share_0t9swvgU7tkm8MGhuKZ - The Exact ChatGPT Email Prompt: https://www.30mpc.com/blog/chatgpt-prompt-b2b-courses ====== THE TECH STACK - Data Enrichment: Clay - CRM Source: HubSpot - Email Writing: Anthropic (Claude) via Clay - Sequencing: Clay Sequencer - Data Sources: LinkedIn, Newsletter Lists ====== ABOUT THIS EXPERIMENT Most people think you have to choose between "mass blast" and "manual personalization." We wanted to prove you can do both. We took a list of 224,000 followers, threw them into a Clay table to enrich the data, and filtered for Sales VPs with 10+ reps. We then cross-referenced that with our CRM to see which specific reps on their teams were consuming 30MPC content. The result? An AI-written email that looked 100% human-written, referencing specific employees by name. Watch to see: 1. How we filtered 224,000 leads down to the top 1% highest intent buyers. 2. The specific AI prompt that references rep names and consumed content. 3. Why running this campaign in December was a massive failure.
Giulio Segantini is back and this time it’s pure objection-handling firepower. If you sell anything over the phone, this is a tactical breakdown of how to handle “send me an email,” “we’re already working with someone,” “too expensive,” “not interested,” and every other cold call objection without sounding scripted or desperate. Built around Giulio’s 'ACE Framework' (Accept → Consent → Explore), this is a masterclass in real-world objection handling for SDRs, AEs, and sales leaders. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Close Complex Enterprise Deals by Selling the Problem, Not the Product Jen Allen-Knuth breaks down how to win executive deals by anchoring every conversation to a strategic objective and building urgency around cost of inaction. Prospect into the C-suite with a 4-step structure: objective → problem hypothesis → status quo → insight (not a pitch). Run discovery around objectives, obstacles, current approach, and negative consequences—then close with “Is this worth solving?” and “Is this worth solving now?” Multithread by aligning on a one-page problem statement, ghostwriting the buying group invite, surfacing deal friction early, and facilitating consensus in the room. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Over the last 12 to 16 weeks, we’ve been sitting down with the one and only Jen Allen-Knuth (2–3 hours per week, plus an entire week of shooting) to build her course: Selling to the C-Suite. This is everything you could possibly need to close a 6–7 figure deal at power. Backed by Gong data of and 1M+ executive-level sales cycles. https://www.30mpc.com/course/multithreading-exec-selling-course-selling-to-the-c-suite FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start by aligning on the problem in the big team meeting and sell your champion on why it’s important. At the beginning of the big team meeting present in this order, the problem > the cost of inaction > alternatives which include you. In the big team meeting, call out those people who are not voicing their perspectives and create a safe space to air out problems. Even if there is consensus, push for one more person to get involved in the deal cycle before making a solution recommendation. GET MORE TACTICS Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc
Nick Cegelski breaks down why most cold call pitches fail—and how to fix them. Nick explains why generic value propositions packed with buzzwords like optimize, streamline, and AI-powered sound nice but mean nothing to buyers. Instead, he introduces the problem proposition framework: leading with a vivid, emotionally charged problem your buyer actually feels, then briefly showing how you solve it. Through real-world pitch rewrites (including Ramp and Laurel), Nick shows how to ditch marketing jargon, speak in “dumb human language,” and build cold call openings that spark curiosity instead of instant objections. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Problem proposition resources: 1. https://tactics.30mpc.com/openers 2. https://www.30mpc.com/newsletter/how-to-build-the-perfect-cold-call-pitch Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
AI isn’t replacing sales reps—it’s turning them into force multipliers. Prabhav Jain, CEO of 11x, breaks down how modern sales teams use AI-driven personalization, signal-based outreach, and smarter sequences to book more meetings while spending less time on manual prospecting. Download the Guide: The Ultimate Three Part Outbound System to accelerate your path to President’s Club 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Use themed personalization to earn opens: Personal hooks like alma mater, sports, or career milestones grab attention when you cleanly segue into a real business problem. Vary your email structure to avoid fatigue: Rotate formats across sequences short emails, value drops, breakups, and social proof instead of repeating personalization → pitch → CTA. Train AI like a junior SDR, not a magic button: Calibrate ICP, tone, and examples upfront so AI improves fast and scales what actually converts. One thing to do today: run one new play: Pick a single outreach play from this episode and test it immediately—don’t overhaul your stack, just execute and learn. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Jason Bay’s Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Armand Farrokh and Jen Allen‑Knuth walk through a realistic, unscripted discovery conversation with a senior university security leader. Jen demonstrates a 7-step executive discovery framework, from establishing credibility and anchoring to strategic objectives, to reframing the status quo and closing for next steps, while Armand plays a skeptical, budget-constrained prospect. The video pauses after each step to break down why each question is asked, how to control executive conversations, and how to advance big deals without pitching too early. Ideal for sellers who want to run confident, insight-driven discovery with senior decision-makers. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
How top sellers use customer proof to reduce risk, accelerate deals, and close with confidence featuring Krysten Conner’s real world framework for social proof, references, and late stage deal momentum. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Screenshots beat polished proof: Raw texts, DMs, and unpolished customer messages feel real and instantly lower buyer risk. Use them in prospecting and late stage deals instead of overproduced case studies. Stop defaulting to reference calls: Reference calls are the highest effort option. First try screenshots, forwarded customer emails, tailored demos, or CSM intros to answer the real risk behind the ask. Prep references to tell the truth: The best reference includes a hiccup and how it was fixed. Perfect stories feel fake. Credible stories close deals. One thing to do right now: Spend 30 minutes pinging past customers you built relationships with. No ask. Just a check in. Build your reference list before you urgently need it. KRYSTEN’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Doing 14X what anyone had done in her territory Being #1 in new logo acquisition on her team Achieving a 47.6% win rate Todd Caponi’s Negotiation Masterclass here These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Full YouTube Episode Here Jen Allen-Knuth puts five real cold emails head-to-head to see which ones actually earn executive attention and which get instantly deleted. Watch as she breaks down subject lines, openers, tone, and CTA mistakes, crowns a single winning email, then rewrites it live using her Problem Prompter framework to show how sellers can stop pitching and start booking meetings with C-suite buyers. Over the last 12 to 16 weeks, we’ve been sitting down with the one and only Jen Allen-Knuth (2–3 hours per week, plus an entire week of shooting) to build her course: Selling to the C-Suite. This is everything you could possibly need to close a 6–7 figure deal at power. Backed by Gong data of and 1M+ executive-level sales cycles. https://www.30mpc.com/course/multithreading-exec-selling-course-selling-to-the-c-suite Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Learn more: https://www.30mpc.com/newsletter/multi-threading-and-executive-selling-course-selling-to-the-c-suite
⁠Watch Todd’s Free Negotiation Masterclass⁠ ⁠Buy 'Four Levers Negotiating' Here⁠ Todd Caponi is a multi time CRO, award winning author, and one of the leading voices on transparency in sales. And these are the three negotiation moments that changed how he sells forever. From a used car purchase that went completely sideways, to a seven figure software deal saved at the last second, to a heated pricing argument with an angry marketer, Todd Caponi shares real stories that prove why honesty beats tactics in negotiation. No gimmicks. No fake leverage. Just clear, human conversations that build trust, reduce discounting, and turn negotiations into collaboration instead of combat. These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
We break down the exact cold call script that’s helped book meetings on 1 out of every 3 connects then prove it by making live cold calls on camera. Armand Farrokh and Nick Cegelski walk through the full cold call framework they’ve used as operators, leaders, and authors of *Cold Calling Sucks (And That’s Why It Works) from opener, to pitch, to objection handling with real examples and zero theory fluff. You’ll learn how to use the “Heard the name tossed around” opener to break the telemarketer stigma, why context-first openers outperform permission begging, how to pitch by leading with the problem (not the product), and how to handle objections using the 'Mr. Miyagi method' without sounding pushy or desperate. Then they pick up the phone and make live cold calls showing exactly how the script holds up in real conversations, where reps usually get stuck, and how tone, confidence, and EQ matter more than saying the “perfect” words. Resources: Save $75 off the #1 Cold Calling Course with code SAVE75: https://www.30mpc.com/course/cold-calls-to-presidents-club Buy now link for the Cold Calling Course: https://shop.30mpc.com/30mpc-cold-calls-to-presidents-club-course?coupon=save75 Objection scripts: https://www.30mpc.com/blog/18-cold-call-objections-and-how-to-handle-them Opener scripts: https://www.30mpc.com/blog/2-cold-call-openers-4-full-pitch-examples Get More Tactics: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Alex Kane brings elite demo mastery to this episode, teaching sellers how to turn every walkthrough into a high-impact, story-driven buying experience that stands out from every other vendor in the cycle. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Lead With the Approach: Frame the top problems and outcomes before showing anything. Present → Future → Past: Ask how they do it now, show the future state, then compare it back. Run a Reverse Demo: Make them demo their current workflow to expose real pain. Use a Big Team Demo Deck: Align early on what they want to see and why it matters. ALEX'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB: 9× Presidents Club Winner @ Multiple Companies 200%+ To Quarterly Quota 25× and 500%+ 5× @ Multiple Companies 6× Pitch Olympics Champion @ 3 Companies Founding Enterprise AE @ Giga These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Get More Tactics Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
Welcome to the most chaotic cold call competition you’ve ever seen. Two elite sales teams go head-to-head in a live 3v3 battle to see who can book the most meetings. Watch as the top sales minds from 30 Minutes to President's Club (and a special celeb dialer) bring their best cold call tactics to life. From permission-based openers to clever objection handling, you’ll witness what makes a cold call *land* versus *crash*. ✅ Expires this Friday, get $60 off the #1 Cold Calling Course with code "3v3": https://shop.30mpc.com/30mpc-cold-calls-to-presidents-club-course/?coupon=3v3 🎯 Start a TitanX pilot and we'll match your credits up to 5,000: https://titanx.io/?fpr=30mpc Cold calling sucks: https://www.30mpc.com/course/cold-calls-to-presidents-club
Christine Nolan, four-time President’s Club enterprise sales leader at Asana, shares tactical frameworks for multithreading complex enterprise deals by mapping real power, navigating internal politics, and turning champions into organization-wide access. A practical playbook for winning, expanding, and controlling high-stakes, multi-stakeholder sales cycles. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Build a real power map with your champion using a whiteboard or live org chart, not LinkedIn assumptions. Identify political influence and personal motivations, not just titles, to tailor your approach to each stakeholder. Leverage your full network to break into key accounts by systematically uncovering warm paths to executives. Action item: Review the last quarter of meetings, connect with every contact on LinkedIn, and seed your personal CRM with context you can reuse later. CHRISTINE’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: President’s Club Winner (4x) @ Multiple Enterprise Sales Teams Closed $100M+ Strategic Enterprise Deal @ Asana Head of Strategic Accounts (Top 100 Customers, 7–8 Figure Deals) @ Asana Built & Scaled Global Enterprise Sales Orgs (2nd Line Leader) @ HackerOne Built & Scaled Global Enterprise Sales Orgs (2nd Line Leader) @ Starburst THESE COURSES WILL GET YOU TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: 👥 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 GET MORE TACTICS: Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube
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SatWiz

some golden nuggets lie here...

Jul 31st
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SatWiz

Amazing insights & structured Q's, you will also love the show!

Jul 28th
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Ronnie Walker

Great podcast

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