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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Author: Armand Farrokh & Nick Cegelski

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The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual.


30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including:


  • Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline

  • Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain

  • Process: How to get big contracts over the line

  • Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams.


Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach). 


Whether you're seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show…


Get ready, you're going to President's Club.

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Software Demo Secrets That Instantly Close Deals – Struggling to move deals forward after group demos? In this video, sales expert Nick Cegelski reveals a proven software demo process that keeps prospects engaged and drives real buying conversations. Discover what elite sellers do before and after a demo to build trust, personalize the experience, and win over every key stakeholder. You’ll learn why cold demos fail, how to warm up the room with pre-calls, and how post-demo follow-up can unlock true multithreading. Whether you're in SaaS sales, B2B tech, or enterprise deals, these software demo tips will help you close faster and more consistently. Perfect for AEs, SDRs, and anyone leading complex sales cycles. Stop winging your demos. Start winning them. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Call attendees before the demo – Don’t walk into a cold room. Reach out 1:1 to every person on the invite list to get their agenda and run mini discovery. Build personal connections – Use those pre-demo calls to create rapport and uncover hot-button issues you’d never get in a big group setting. Get immediate post-demo feedback – Call your champion and key stakeholders right after the demo to capture real reactions and uncover next steps while it’s fresh. Follow up individually, not just with a group recap – Send a tailored 1:1 follow-up email to each stakeholder to spark deeper conversations, create new champions, and drive true multithreading. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
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Huge Announcement 👉 Our next course is here: The Sales Management Operating System 🎟️ https://www.30mpc.com/episodes/the-sales-management-operating-system Free Launch Event: Mark will walk you through his entire system, for free. You’ll walk away with more tactical leadership training in that hour than most paid courses deliver. Pre-Order Discount: If you sign up for the event, you’ll get early access and the lowest price this course will ever be. Exclusive Playbook: Everyone who shows up live gets access to the Sales Management Advanced Implementation Playbook, the exact internal systems Mark used to scale Outreach from $0 → $250M. This playbook has never been shared publicly. Live attendees only. 🎟️ https://www.30mpc.com/episodes/the-sales-management-operating-system What you need to know: Most new managers lead off gut — finger-in-the-air forecasting, feast-or-famine teams, and hiring that’s a coin flip. This course fixes that. You’ll learn the exact systems Mark Kosoglow used to scale Outreach from $0 → $250M ARR and coach 8 managers into VPs: →The Operating System to build a bulletproof sales process → The Operating Rhythm to get every rep performing like your #1 → The Talent System to hire and ramp reps who actually hit quota If you don’t have a system, leadership feels like firefighting. If you do, it becomes your biggest multiplier for revenue and career growth. Learn More: https://www.30mpc.com/course/leadership-course
Learn how to expose weaknesses in your competitor’s solution, position your product as the smarter choice, and win more meetings on cold calls. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Expose the competitor’s gap: Highlight the pain points your prospect might not have noticed in their current solution to create urgency. Leverage social proof: Use customer stories where others switched from a competitor to validate your claims without sounding pushy. Reframe the ask: Instead of forcing a hard sell, invite prospects to simply “take a look” at what’s out there—low pressure, high impact. Balance empathy with confidence: Acknowledge that they might not switch today, but confidently plant the seed that your solution solves a problem their current vendor doesn’t. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: 18 Cold Call Objections Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Stevie Case breaks down how she’s building one of the most advanced outbound sales machines in SaaS—balancing AI-driven efficiency with human-first selling to achieve conversion rates that beat inbound. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Reverse-engineer ICP using AI and enrichment to find signals and stack-rank leads Keep outreach human-first by using AI for prep but letting reps drive conversations Build feedback loops with AI scoring while managers set coaching standards Continuously refine by feeding win/loss data back into the prospecting engine More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC STEVE’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: CRO @ Vanta Vice President of Sales @ Twilio Vice President of Sales and Growth @ Layer RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Jason Bay’s Cold Email ChatGPT Prompts Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Time kills all deals—but it doesn’t have to. In this episode, you’ll learn 7 tactical plays you can use right now to compress your sales cycle, keep momentum high, and close deals faster without being pushy. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Always anchor next steps immediately after a meeting—sooner than they expect—to keep deals moving. Work multiple steps in parallel instead of waiting on a slow, linear process. Build trust early by calling demo attendees ahead of time for mini-discovery and alignment. Use creative momentum-builders (mini-demos, exec-to-exec notes, timeline tests) to remove dead time and accelerate decisions. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Nick Cegelski and Armand Farrokh tackle the biggest sales career questions—from landing your first SDR role to earning promotions, breaking into SaaS, and accelerating your path to President’s Club. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Stand out in interviews by skipping “spray and pray” applications—network with reps, cold email leaders, and show you can sell your way into the process. Know when to stay or move on by evaluating the “four pillars”: learning, earning, growing, and connection. If only two are strong, it’s time to leave. Avoid career-stalling habits like job-hopping for small pay bumps or choosing companies with poor growth. Prioritize strong leadership and investor backing. Accelerate your career trajectory by shadowing top performers, over-indexing on work ethic early, and self-educating on both sales skills and your target industry. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: The Ultimate Cold Callign Framework Minimum Viable Discovery Framework Smart Money Venture Capital How to Cut Your Sales Cycle in Half Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Stop losing calls at “not interested.” In this video, you’ll learn a simple, agree-first pattern break that lowers resistance, keeps prospects talking, and earns permission to continue—without sounding pushy. We’ll also show you how to tune the delivery so it lands across regions and seniority levels, plus a quick practice plan so this flows on live calls. What you’ll learn: The agree-first pattern break that flips “no” into “go on” Two follow-up nudges that lower defenses (playful and serious variants) How to tune your delivery for different regions/roles (e.g., Germany vs. US; execs vs. ICs) Why people reject salespeople but respond to humans—and how to signal that fast A quick practice routine to make this feel natural on live calls Watch our full interview with The Weirdest Sales Trainer: https://youtu.be/FDjZ6JHWzoE RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “YOUTUBE” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Learn 3 proven cold call tactics to get past any gatekeeper and reach decision-makers without lying, pitching, or wasting time. These step-by-step strategies will help you control the conversation, boost your connect rate, and book more meetings. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Adopt the “owner” mindset: Approach gatekeepers with confidence and authority—don’t over-explain, pitch, or try to befriend them. Your demeanor should signal that you belong. Use the Triple Bypass Method: Start with the Slide By (simple ask to be connected), then provide Context (reason for calling without pitching), and finally lean on Social Proof (reference similar clients or prior outreach). End with questions to stay in control: Always finish responses with a question like, “Would you let him know it’s Nick?” so you guide the conversation instead of letting the gatekeeper take charge. Know when to pivot: If blocked repeatedly, don’t force it—try mobile numbers, off-hours calls, or different channels (email, LinkedIn, direct mail, referrals) to reach your prospect directly. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Save a copy of these steps to bypass any gatekeeper here: https://www.30mpc.com/newsletter/3-steps-to-bypass-any-gatekeeper-on-a-cold-call Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Leadership in sales isn’t just about hitting quota — it’s about building standards, setting culture, and developing people. In this episode, the hosts share 8 hard-earned sales leadership lessons that shaped how they hire, coach, and manage winning sales teams. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS If it’s not a “hell yes,” it’s a no — never settle for average hires. Proof of performance over theory — test real execution, not hypotheticals. Follow the 2–2 rule — flip two reps, hire two culture-setters, cut two misfits. Let reps fire themselves — set clear standards early so underperformers opt out. More reps ≠ more revenue — don’t over-hire if your lead pool doesn’t grow. Protect focus time — stop expecting instant Slack replies; create deep work blocks. Use the 20/80 rule in training — 20% teach, 80% reinforce until it sticks. Give grace on first mistakes — support reps when they slip, then enforce standards. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: My 4-Step Account Executive Interview Process: https://www.30mpc.com/newsletter/my-4-step-account-executive-interview-process-2 My Ultimate 4-Week Sales Onboarding Program: https://www.30mpc.com/newsletter/my-ultimate-4-week-sales-onboarding-program Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Armand covers the 3 steps to handling any objection using the Mr. Miyagi Method. Here’s the magic framework: Agree with the objection to remove the pressure of the sale. Incentivize conversation to get them sharing more about the objection. Sell the test drive. What will they get out of meeting with you (or in this case, allowing the name drop) even if they don’t buy? RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “YOUTUBE” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Too many sellers give discounts before securing commitments, leaving deals vulnerable and dragging negotiations on for weeks. In this episode of 30 Minutes to President’s Club, we show you how to execute negotiations in three simple steps: confirm you’re the vendor of choice, lock down your customer’s timeline, and only then and only then, execute the give-get. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Confirm Vendor of Choice: Before negotiating, make sure your prospect would choose you over competitors if pricing were equal. Lock Down the Timeline: Secure a firm commitment on when the deal will close before offering any concessions. Flip the Give-Get Paradigm: Always get something in return (budget clarity, contract terms, faster close) before giving discounts or changes. Force Trade-Offs: Every concession has a cost—package pricing, terms, and conditions together so your customer makes real choices instead of endless asks. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: How to finish a negotiation in One Cut (PT 2) How to Win the Negotiation Before it Starts (Pt 1) Cold calling course Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Sales pros spend too much time on admin instead of selling. In this episode, Yoni Tserruya, CEO of Lusha, reveals six high-impact ways to automate your sales process so you can spend more time building trust with customers and less time stuck in busywork. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Automate List Building: Use AI to analyze your last 20+ closed deals and generate highly targeted prospect lists with parameters you might never have considered. Leverage Buying Signals: Track events like new hires, funding rounds, product launches, or office openings to prioritize outreach to in-market accounts. Streamline Call Prep: Deploy AI agents to compile company news, decision-maker profiles, and account usage data hours before each meeting. Personalize Icebreakers: Have AI scan LinkedIn posts, press releases, and work history to craft relevant, personalized openers for calls and emails. Automate Recap Emails: Upload call transcripts to AI for clean, concise summaries that highlight pains, solutions, and next steps and automatically update your CRM. AI-Powered Coaching: Train a custom AI on top-performing sales calls to score conversations, give targeted feedback, and onboard new reps faster. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Recap Email Template Free Toolkit: Build high-impact lists and target the right prospects at the right time Cold calling course Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
70% of replies happen after email #1. Here’s a simple, repeatable multi-channel sequence (email + phone + social) that drives double-digit contact rates without spamming. Jason Bay's KISS (Keep It Simple Sequencing) framework covers 6 calls, 6 emails, and 3 social touches over 3 weeks. Grab the templates and full structure behind a great sequence along with the best ways to follow up after your first email: https://www.30mpc.com/blog/jason-bays-outbound-sequence-template RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Learn the simple but powerful voicemail script that directs prospects straight to your email — boosting reply rates without chasing callbacks. This counterintuitive tactic adds a guaranteed touchpoint to your outreach sequence. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Make the voicemail about the email, don’t ask for a call back, direct them to look for your email instead State your name, company, and subject line so it’s easy for them to spot your email in their inbox. Keep it under 20 seconds to avoid sounding like a sales pitch. Pair with a strong, relevant email so once they open it, you maximize your chance of getting a reply. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Should you leave voicemails when cold calling? Cold calling course Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Sales leadership expert Marcus Chan reveals the exact systems and rhythms that turn average reps into Presidents Club winners. From personal success blueprints to “Real Play Fridays,” you’ll learn how to build trust, reduce turnover, and create a culture of consistent high performance. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Winning Wednesdays — Lock in a one-hour training every Wednesday, led by you, a top rep, or a manager (not just enablement). Real Play Fridays — Two hours of live, intense practice scenarios with real buyer personas (e.g., your CFO if you sell to CFOs). Monthly War Rooms — Four hours focused on moving stalled deals forward or closing them out, with live calls and strategy in the room. Action Item — Find your company’s buyer persona, buy them lunch, and role play how they’d buy your product to sharpen your team’s approach. MARCUS’ PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Sales Leader @ Multiple Orgs (3–110 reps) - Hit President’s Club 9/10 years, drove $190M new business, ran $195M P&L. Corporate Sales Professional @ 2 Fortune 500 Companies - Promoted 12x in 8 years, #1 in every role. Author & Thought Leader - WSJ Best-Selling Author, featured in Forbes, Yahoo! Finance, Salesforce. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: How To Bulid A Winning Sales Team With Commitment To Practice (Lead Episode) How to Run 1-on-1s and Practice Roleplays in Sales (Newsletter) Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Discover the exact time-blocking strategy top sales reps use to crush quota, maximize prospecting hours, and keep pipeline full, without burning out. This episode walks you through proven calendar management principles, the green/yellow/red hours system, and the four-step framework that guarantees consistent prospecting and closing success. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Front-Load Your Most Difficult Sales Activities: Complete your hardest, most energy-draining tasks, like cold calling, first thing in your “green hours” (8–12) to ensure you hit your daily prospecting goals before distractions hit. Use Parkinson’s Law to Time-Block for Efficiency: Assign strict, realistic time blocks for each task to prevent work from expanding and eating into prime selling hours. Stack Similar Sales Activities to Maintain Momentum: Group calls, research, emails, and admin into dedicated blocks to avoid costly context-switching and keep your energy focused. Follow the Green/Yellow/Red Hour System: Green hours (prospecting), yellow hours (customer calls), and red hours (admin) keep your day optimized for revenue-generating activities and prevent pipeline starvation. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: How to time block in sales Cold calling course Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 — In this episode of 30 Minutes to President’s Club, Giulio Segantini breaks down his eclectic approach to cold calling and the unique openers that grab a prospect’s attention in seconds. Learn how to craft first lines that make your calls impossible to ignore and set you up for sales success. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Opener: Lead with a hyper-specific, permission-based cold call opener to grab attention. Pitch: Frame your pitch around the prospect’s problems in their own words before offering your solution. Objections: Agree first, ask for permission to challenge, and guide the prospect to change their own mind. Audit your talk tracks and inject your authentic personality, it’s harder to say no to a human than a salesperson. GIULIO’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Collected over 10,000 cold call rejections One of the most watched cold callers in the globe The Weirdest cold caller in the planet More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Cold calling course Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
Steal the minimum viable cold call script that top reps use: a tailored-permission opener that earns 30 seconds, a problem proposition (not a product pitch), and the Mr. Miyagi objection method that keeps defenses low and advances the call. You’ll learn to sell the test drive (the meeting), and leave every call calls with next steps on the books. You’ll learn The 3-part cold calling framework: Opener → Pitch → Objections The Tailored Permission Opener to earn yourself an extra 30 seconds on the phone The Problem Proposition: how to lead with their biggest problem to get your prospect leaning in Mr. Miyagi Method to handle any objection RESOURCES DISCUSSED: 52 Minutes of Proven Cold Calling Tips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtKZ7fP1HZM Join our weekly newsletter - https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal - https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “YOUTUBE” - https://www.30mpc.com/courses
📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 — Unlock the cold call script that top reps use to book 1 meeting for every 3 connects. In this episode of 30 Minutes to President’s Club, Armand Farrokh reveals the exact 3-part approach that makes cold calls feel warm and leads to more meetings without sounding like a telemarketer. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Use the “Heard the Name Tossed Around” opener to bypass resistance and make cold calls feel like warm intros. Lead with a Problem Proposition focus on the problem your prospect cares about, not your product features. Apply the “Mr. Miyagi” objection method by agreeing first, asking trap questions, and guiding prospects to realize gaps themselves. Sell the Test Drive, not the product—invite prospects to try or explore, not sit through a heavy demo. More of a visual learner? Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see the frameworks and talk tracks from each episode in action: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Cold Calling Course 18 Cold Call Objections and How to Handle Them Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Steven Breyerton, SVP of Sales at ZoomInfo, reveals how he took his team from transactional closes to enterprise-level deals by rethinking win rates, redefining SDR comp plans, and operationalizing deeper discovery. This episode is a tactical roadmap for sales leaders ready to level up their pipeline and close bigger, higher-quality deals. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Track win rates by time cohort (T0, T1, etc.) to diagnose deal velocity, rep behavior, and coaching opportunities across segments. Incentivize quality over quantity in SDR comp plans by weighting toward qualified meetings and multi-threading efforts instead of raw meeting volume. Adopt frameworks like MEDDPICC (ICE-first) to strengthen discovery and identify pain, champions, and economic buyers early in the sales cycle. Segment daily metrics by segment type (SMB vs. enterprise) to ensure appropriate pacing, forecasting accuracy, and ASP growth strategies. STEVEN’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: SVP of Sales @ ZoomInfo Vice President of Sales @ DiscoverOrg RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Metrics Playbook Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
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SatWiz

some golden nuggets lie here...

Jul 31st
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SatWiz

Amazing insights & structured Q's, you will also love the show!

Jul 28th
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Ronnie Walker

Great podcast

Oct 17th
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