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This is Connecting the Dots: Senior Living Successwith Matt Reiners, Girl Dad, Husband, 2x Tech Co-Founder, and Senior Living Enthusiast where we dive right into what drives the senior living industry. Matt interviews thought leaders from all parts of the industry as we cover everything from resident & staff satisfaction to innovative technology, community culture, to finance & operations. If you're in the senior living industry, it's safe to say this podcast will have something for you.
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Toly Molitvenik grew up watching his parents run a small care home and swore he’d never do it. Then he spent 15 years operating senior living communities, starting as one of his own caregivers. In this episode we talk about what that work teaches you that no outsider can learn, the medication error that hit the same family two months in a row, and the Google Lens moment that became MedHalo. We also get into why the hardest part of building tech for senior living is making it simple.KEY TAKEAWAYSIf a tool gets in the way of care, it won’t get used. Resident needs always win.A 100-bed community can move about 40,000 medication doses a month. Even a tiny error rate adds up fast.Med techs carry far more than the med pass: documentation, reorders, inventory, multiple pharmacies, and often floor coverage.Selling into senior living means solving for the med tech, the administrator, the regional VP, and the home office at the same time.The pain you’ve accepted for years is usually your best opportunity to innovate.NOTABLE QUOTES“People’s needs will always override using the tool.” - Toly Molitvenik“I’m not a typical tech founder. I don’t wear a hoodie.” - Toly Molitvenik“Welcome pain. Welcome the trigger of pain to say that is actually an opportunity for innovation.” - Toly Molitvenik“It is so complex to build something that for the user is simple.” - Toly MolitvenikMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEMedHalo: https://www.medhalo.comMedHalo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/medhaloMedHalo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/medhaloinc/Toly Molitvenik on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tolymolitvenik/ABOUT THE GUESTToly Molitvenik is the founder and CEO of MedHalo and a senior living operator with about 15 years of experience running residential communities. He came to the U.S. at six years old, grew up around the small care home his parents ran, and was sure he’d never go into the business. After studying business and starting a company in school, he changed his mind, opened his own community, and started as one of its caregivers. That grew into more communities, management contracts, and acquisitions, and his communities became a testing ground for senior living innovation companies. After a series of medication errors convinced him that more checklists weren’t the answer, he founded MedHalo, a physical AI platform that uses computer vision to verify medications at the point of care and give operators real-time visibility into inventory and workflow.If this one hit home, follow Connecting the Dots and share it with the operator, administrator, or med tech who’s been living with a problem everyone’s accepted. Then go find yours.
Most senior living marketing reports still lead with clicks, impressions, and cost per lead. Marissa Burkhardt and Cliff Karklin of Fountain Digital think that's the wrong scoreboard. In this episode we get into why fewer, better leads often produce more tours, what AI search is doing to your organic traffic, and what a real operator-agency partnership looks like when the numbers aren't all green arrows.KEY TAKEAWAYSLead volume can drop while quality leads and tours go up. Track the conversion ratios, not just the top of the funnel.The cheapest cost per lead is rarely the best use of your next dollar.AI search is shrinking organic traffic for some communities, but the visitors who do click are further down the funnel.Generic AI-written content doesn't get cited. Content only your community could write does.If marketing data and CRM data aren't integrated, you can't prove what's working. Start there.TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction01:32 Welcome, Marissa and Cliff02:56 Marissa's story: stumbling into senior living and falling for it04:13 Cliff's story: 20 years in data and how disconnected senior living felt05:54 Turning digital marketing into occupancy, not clicks08:43 Hitting a brick wall in the CRM, and why gut feelings hurt11:41 Can operators have lead quantity and quality?15:18 Where the tension shows up: budgets, conversion ratios, sales teams18:20 Frightening a sales team or two20:39 What AI search is doing to the data24:39 SEO fundamentals, amped up: quality, credibility, local authority26:55 Why cheap AI-generated content doesn't get picked up28:19 Moving beyond leads: defining a quality lead metric29:26 Attribution, and connecting dollars to tours34:27 What a productive operator-agency partnership looks like38:16 Transparent reporting and the end of spin40:47 The first thing to fix if you can't connect marketing to move-ins44:05 Their LeadingAge session: Marketing Data for CEOs46:13 ClosingNOTABLE QUOTES"The lowest cost per lead is not necessarily going to be the best get for you." - Marissa Burkhardt"As a data guy, gut feelings can be painful." - Cliff Karklin"If you're never talking about something that didn't work, it usually means you're not talking about opportunities to improve." - Cliff KarklinMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEFountain Digital: https://www.fountaindigital.comMarissa Burkhardt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marissaburkhardt/Cliff Karklin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffkarklin/LeadingAge Annual Meeting, Oct. 25-28, 2026, Philadelphia: https://annualmeeting.leadingage.org/"Marketing Data for CEOs" session with Springpoint Senior LivingABOUT THE GUESTSMarissa Burkhardt is Chief Strategy Officer at Fountain Digital, where she leads strategy and operations. She has spent more than a decade in senior living marketing and has led digital strategy for hundreds of clients, from senior living providers to Fortune 100 financial services companies. She has worked across the full digital funnel, from SEO and web to paid media and content, and focuses on tying marketing to tours, deposits, and move-ins.Cliff Karklin is VP, Performance & Analytics at Fountain Digital. Over 20 years on the agency side, he started in SEO, moved through client service, and found his calling building and growing data teams. After years in e-commerce, he came to senior living to close the gap between marketing activity and what actually happens in the CRM, with integrated attribution as the foundation.Enjoyed this one? Follow Connecting the Dots, share it with your sales and marketing team, and if you're in Philly for LeadingAge, go catch Marissa and Cliff's session. There may be t-shirts.
Budget season is here, and I can’t think of a better guest for it. Steven Crittenden went from Army paratrooper to senior living CFO to co-founding ICON Financial Services, which now supports close to 150 communities. We get into why budgets fall apart before they’re even built, how to lock down your data so everyone runs the same numbers, and why the rent roll might be the most underrated report in your building. I don’t think I’ve learned more in a 30-minute episode.Key TakeawaysSet up your systems first. If you don’t know what you need, you’ll get sold on features.Start with the bookends: revenue, NOI, total expenses, and payroll. Then ask whether the margin supports the mission.Know your effective rate increase, not just your intended one.Lock down unit types, capacity, and job titles. Don’t lump AL and memory care caregivers together.Use budget season to audit everything, then spend the year maintaining it.Timestamps02:00 Welcome02:45 Steven’s path: Army paratrooper, CBRE accountant, then a baptism by fire at Pegasus, Sodalis, and Proveer08:53 Acuity and staffing: do we actually know what’s happening in the building?10:33 Caregivers working from memory, and how budget-season favors turned into ICON12:28 Why budgeting matters, garbage in, garbage out, and starting with the bookends16:04 Start with the truth: capacity, product types, and intended vs. effective rate increases18:38 Data integrity: two occupancy numbers, “you shall not pass” on unit types, job titles, and AL vs. memory care staffing25:06 Outside budget season: auditing the rent roll28:56 From reactive to proactive: vendor contracts, escalators, and AI31:20 Looking ahead: theory vs. reality, and knowing when to get help33:11 Where to find Steven and ICON34:42 ClosingNotable Quotes“If you don’t know who you are and what you want, you get sold by features.”“You got food, you got care, and the rest don’t matter.” (a saying from Stephen Vick)“With no mission, there’s no margin. With no margin, there sure as heck ain’t no mission.”“Be relentless when it comes to your data integrity.”Resources:ICON Financial Services: https://icon-fs.comSteven on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-crittenden/ICON on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/icon-fsEmail Steven: [email protected] StevenSteven Crittenden is the Co-Founder and CEO of ICON Financial Services, an outsourced finance and accounting team built exclusively for senior living. He spent eight years in the Army as a paratrooper and air traffic controller, then earned his degree in finance and started out as an accountant at CBRE. He entered senior living as director of FP&A at Pegasus Senior Living. He then served as CFO at Sodalis Senior Living, where he helped grow the company from roughly $12 million to over $100 million. He later joined Proveer Senior Living, where he focused on raising debt and equity. Three years ago he co-founded ICON with Michael Kropp. The firm now manages financials for nearly 150 facilities. It offers free budgeting for incoming clients and free underwriting for operators taking on new buildings.
Evan Friedkin is back on the show four years after his first episode. This time we're going after something every operator does every day: acting on assumptions nobody has ever checked.Evan walks through the assumptions he sees fall apart almost weekly, from "we don't get residents from across the river" to comp sets built on billboards and gut feel. We get into:how combining your own data with market data shows who's really winning your leadswhy most teams only revisit assumptions after a leadership changethe two words that should set off an alarm bell in every strategy meetingKey Takeaways:Your comp set might be wrong. One operator found that only 2 of the 5 competitors taking most of its leads were actually on its list."We don't get residents from that side of the river" is testable. Check whether your competitors do.To see who you're really losing to, pair your first-party data (CRM, EHR, financials) with third-party market data.Don't wait for a new executive to question the defaults. Revisit key assumptions on a regular cadence.When you hear "I feel like," you're hearing an assumption.Notable Quotes:"If you're saying 'I feel like X,' that means you're making an assumption." - Evan Friedkin"Why do we need to wait for a major event like a leadership change to revisit some of these assumptions?" - Evan Friedkin"If it's easy to test, we should." - Evan FriedkinMentioned in This Episode:Occulytics: https://www.occulytics.comEvan Friedkin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanfriedkin/Raising Tech, powered by Parasol Alliance: https://raisingtech.buzzsprout.com/1992084About Evan FriedkinEvan Friedkin is Head of Growth at Occulytics, a data analytics and AI platform built for senior living. He oversees sales, marketing, and customer success. Evan entered the industry in April 2019 as employee number six at Roobrik. He spent six years there building the sales team and helping operators have better conversations with prospects. After Aline acquired Roobrik, he served as Vice President of Sales and got a broader view into dining and operations. In 2026, he stepped back to find the tech company he believed would go the distance, and he landed at Occulytics.
Everybody in senior living is talking about the growth wave. Far fewer people are talking about how it actually gets paid for.Rachel Lynch leads the long term care division at First American Equipment Finance, a bank-owned equipment lessor and subsidiary of RBC. She spends her days inside capital budgets — which means she sees where the money is really going before most of the industry does.In this conversation, Rachel breaks down the three buckets absorbing senior living capital right now, why days cash on hand has suddenly become the metric boards keep circling, and how bond financing and equipment financing complement each other instead of competing. Plus the analogy that reframes the whole thing: would you finance your groceries into your mortgage?If you've ever watched a capital budget quietly disappear into "stuff" — the IT refresh, the furniture, the generator on a rainy day — this one's for you.Resources Mentioned:First American Equipment Finance (a subsidiary of RBC)Rachel Lynch on LinkedInLeadingAge events and conferences Guest Bio:Rachel Lynch leads the long term care division at First American Equipment Finance, a bank-owned equipment lessor and subsidiary of RBC that provides CapEx financing to organizations nationally. Like a lot of people in this field, Rachel will tell you senior living found her rather than the other way around. First American's healthcare team has served hospitals, health systems, and long-term care organizations for more than 25 years, and by 2023 there was a growing consensus internally that senior living had become a niche deserving its own dedicated focus. In the spring of 2024, Rachel said yes to building that practice alongside her colleague Brooke Prieston — and hasn't looked back since.Based in Western New York, Rachel spends much of the year on the road at industry conferences and LeadingAge events, working with nonprofit and for-profit organizations alike. Her favorite part of the job is the conversation before the financing: where is an organization's cash position today, where does it need to be in a few years, and which tools in the capital stack will actually get them there. Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn.
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