Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins

What if everything you thought you knew about the Bible's structure was making it harder to understand God's story? Pastor, author, and Bible engagement architect Randy Frazee joins host Robert on Refining Rhetoric to discuss why so many Christians—even those in Bible-believing churches—can't articulate the basic narrative of Scripture. The problem isn't a lack of commitment; it's how the Bible is organized. In this episode, you'll discover: ·       Why chronological Bible reading changes everything (and how The Story makes it accessible) ·       What really happens after you die—and why most Christians have it backwards ·       The surprising biblical truth: heaven isn't the final destination (hint: read Revelation 21-22) ·       Why the Garden of Eden matters for understanding eternity on the new earth ·       How Paul wrote the ultimate treatise on joy... from prison ·       The neuroscience that validates ancient biblical wisdom about depression and anxiety ·       Why gratitude is the #1 weapon against worry (backed by both Philippians and brain science) ·       The loneliness epidemic destroying Americans—and how proximity creates real community ·       Practical ways homeschoolers can combat isolation and build deeper connections Randy brings decades of pastoral wisdom, research-backed insights, and a refreshing perspective on biblical literacy. From explaining why Psalm 51 should be read right after 2 Samuel 11 (David's confession after his fall with Bathsheba) to unpacking why we'll still struggle at golf in the new kingdom (yes, really), this conversation bridges ancient truth and modern science.   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026  Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!

What if the virtue we've been taught to prize above all others—empathy—has become a weapon that's destroying our families, churches, and society? In this thought-provoking episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins sits down with Dr. Joe Rigney, author of the controversial new book "The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and Its Counterfeits." Dr. Rigney, who serves as Fellow of Theology at New St. Andrews College and is a pastor at Christ's Church, makes a bold argument that will challenge everything you think you know about compassion. Using the powerful analogy of someone drowning in quicksand, Dr. Rigney distinguishes between biblical compassion—which reaches out to help while remaining anchored to truth—and what he calls "untethered empathy," which jumps into the pit with both feet, creating two drowning victims instead of one. This counterfeit virtue, he argues, has been weaponized across cultural battlegrounds from immigration and abortion to the transgender movement, demanding that we validate feelings regardless of truth or moral consequences. The conversation explores how this emotional manipulation has infiltrated churches, schools, and homes through Social Emotional Learning curricula, creating what Dr. Rigney calls "the institutionalization of the pity party." From the redefinition of marriage to the mutilation of confused children in the name of "gender-affirming care," he traces how untethered empathy leads through a predictable progression: pity to anger to cruelty—all while flying the banner of compassion.   Resources: https://x.com/joe_rigney   https://canonpress.com/products/the-sin-of-empathy   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.

In the aftermath of tragedy, the internet becomes a breeding ground for speculation, conspiracy theories, and misinformation—but how do we navigate these waters wisely? Cold case detective J. Warner Wallace returns to Refining Rhetoric to discuss the recent shooting of Charlie Kirk, offering crucial insights on distinguishing between what we can know from public information versus unfounded theories that spread online. Wallace explains why detectives withhold information during investigations, how to evaluate claims about shooting feasibility and evidence, and why complexity isn't usually the answer in criminal cases. The conversation moves beyond the specifics to address deeper questions about identity, martyrdom, and how our worldview shapes our response to violence. Wallace emphasizes that Charlie's identity was rooted in Christ first, with his political views flowing from that foundation. The episode concludes with practical advice for parents on helping children process tragedy and ground their identity in something transcendent rather than political or cultural groups. Wallace also discusses his new graphic novel "Case Files: Murder and Meaning" co-written with his son Jimmy, which explores themes of identity and human value through a criminal investigation narrative.   Resources: https://coldcasechristianity.com/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast!   Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!

Everyone's talking about AI replacing jobs, but here's what they're missing: the real danger isn't AI taking over—it's our children never learning to think for themselves. Classical education might just be the key to thriving in an AI-dominated world. In this thought-provoking episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins dives deep into artificial intelligence and its implications for families, education, and society. With the Trump administration pushing AI as a solution to national debt and economic challenges, Robert examines both the promises and perils of this technological revolution. From data privacy concerns and the staggering energy demands of AI infrastructure to its potential impact on childhood development and learning, Robert offers a balanced perspective on navigating this new landscape. He shares practical insights on when and how to use AI tools effectively while emphasizing why the struggle of learning remains irreplaceable. This episode is essential listening for parents wondering how AI will affect their children's education and future opportunities, offering both warnings and wisdom for the road ahead. Key Topics Covered:               The Trump administration's AI strategy and national security implications               Data privacy, intellectual property, and energy infrastructure challenges               AI in education: personalized learning vs. relationship-based teaching               Why experts benefit from AI while novices suffer               Practical guidelines for using AI tools safely and effectively               The irreplaceable value of struggle and the learning journey               How classical education prepares students for an AI-integrated world   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.

Charlie Kirk was the kind of person who remembered your name even after meeting you just once at a crowded event. Robert joins Dr. Owen Anderson, professor at Arizona State University and faculty advisor for the Turning Point USA chapter, for a heartfelt discussion following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Dr. Anderson shares personal memories of Charlie as "America's Socrates" - a genuine, friendly debater who engaged with students across the political spectrum on college campuses. The conversation explores the radicalization happening at universities, the concerning normalization of ideologies like DEI and transgenderism, and how parents can better prepare their children for the intellectual challenges they'll face in higher education. Dr. Anderson discusses his own legal battles with mandatory DEI training at ASU and provides insight into the hostile environment facing conservative voices on campus. The episode concludes with reflections on Charlie's legacy as a Christian martyr and how his example should inspire more believers to engage courageously in cultural debates.   Resources: Dr. Anderson’s Substack: https://drowenanderson.substack.com/

When Kim Davis spent six days behind bars for refusing to sign same-sex marriage certificates, most people thought the story was over. They were wrong. Nine years later, Davis faces $360,000 in personal damages—and her case is now headed to the Supreme Court with the potential to overturn same-sex marriage entirely. Constitutional attorney Matthew Staver, who will argue before the justices, reveals how a small-town Kentucky clerk's conscience has become the vehicle for what could be the most significant religious liberty victory since the founding. But here's the twist: Even Chief Justice John Roberts saw this coming. In an unprecedented move, he read his Obergefell dissent from the bench—something he's never done before or since—warning that "five lawyers" were imposing their will without constitutional basis. Now, with a transformed Supreme Court and religious freedom wins piling up, Staver explains why 2026 could be the year everything changes. From the legal strategy that's already defeated "terrible decisions" to why Christians can't repeat the post-Roe mistakes, this episode reveals the inside story of the case that has constitutional conservatives hopeful.   Resources: https://lc.org/mat-staver https://lc.org/Kim   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast!   Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!

What if you discovered you have more religious freedom right now than at any point in your lifetime—but nobody told you? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert sits down with Kelly Shackelford, President and CEO of First Liberty Institute, to discuss the remarkable string of religious freedom victories at the Supreme Court that most Americans don't even know happened. Shackelford, a constitutional scholar who has argued and won multiple cases before the Supreme Court, breaks down four major religious liberty wins achieved in just 13 months, including the landmark Coach Kennedy case that overturned 50 years of anti-religious precedent. Key topics covered: How the Supreme Court restored religious freedom protections in the workplace and schools What these victories mean for Christians, business owners, and educators Practical guidance on exercising religious rights at work and in public spaces The truth about what pastors can and cannot say from the pulpit regarding politics Why millions of Christian voters staying home could change election outcomes Resources available at FirstLiberty.org for understanding your religious freedom rights Shackelford emphasizes that Americans now have more religious freedom than they've had in their lifetime, but many don't realize the extent of their restored rights. This episode provides essential insights for anyone wanting to understand and exercise their constitutional religious liberties. Resources: https://firstliberty.org/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Leanring Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.

Before government schools, America had 95% literacy. Now it's 35%. What if everything you've been told about "fixing" education is actually designed to make it worse? Robert teams up with award-winning journalist and CEO of Liberty Sentinel, Alex Newman, to announce their explosive new book "Woke and Weaponized" - a deep dive into how Karl Marx's ideas infiltrated American education and what parents can do about it. From Robert Owen's occult origins to the post-WWI turning point that handed our children to the state, this episode reveals the shocking history behind today's educational crisis and offers hope for families seeking true educational freedom.   Resources: https://libertysentinel.org/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: CC Plus Concurrent Enrollment: The Concurrent Enrollment Program is a flexible opportunity to earn college credit from an accredited Christian university while honoring homeschool families and program parameters contained in the Challenge Guide. Your student can remain in community while earning college credit for the work they are already doing which means community and mentoring stay in place while practicing the skills of learning through college!  Register now or learn more by going to classicalconversationsplus.com/concurrent-enrollment-program.

What if the biggest threat to Christian values in America isn't hostile politicians—but Christians who refuse to vote? Bunni Pounds drops a bombshell statistic that will shake you: Christians are registering and voting at exactly the same rates as the general population. That means roughly half of Bible-believing Americans are voluntarily sitting out the very process that determines who governs their communities. While faithful Christians stay home on election day, secular activists are showing up in droves to elect school board members who push gender ideology, city council members who restrict religious freedom, and county officials who shut down churches. We're literally handing over our nation to people whose worldview is diametrically opposed to Scripture—and then wondering why our culture is falling apart. Bunni's journey from homeschool mom to political consultant to mobilizing nearly a million Christians reveals the stunning power of engaged believers and the devastating consequences of Christian apathy.   Resources: https://www.bunnipounds.com/   https://christiansengaged.org/   https://www.americareadsthebible.com/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by Grand Canyon University and Classical Conversations Plus Undergraduate Program: Is your homeschooler ready for what’s next? At Grand Canyon University, we’re Christ-centered and academically focused, just like your family. GCU supports homeschool students with Classical Conversations scholarships, personalized guidance at every step and a welcoming student community. See for yourself with our homeschool campus visit programs — where faith, freedom and community meet. Grow spiritually. Grow academically. Find your purpose at GCU.  Learn more at gcu.edu/homeschool.   Classical Conversations Plus Undergraduate Program Your Purpose Made Approachable… Whether that is a degree, a discipline, or a deeper understanding of interests, CC Plus Undergrad can help. Our unique relationship with Southeastern University provides multiple opportunities and options for enrolling as a degree-seeking student at Southeastern University, which allows for a continued pursuit of lifelong learning, making passion and purpose approachable whether you are a CC graduate or CC parent.   To learn more about the CC Plus Undergrad Program or to begin your journey of pursuing your next season of learning, go to www.classicalconversationsplus.com/undergraduate-program

Think homeschoolers are antisocial? Think again. In this special in-studio episode, Robert sits down with his sister-in-law Emma Bortins, a Classical Conversations graduate who went from small-town homeschooling to thriving in the heart of New York City at The King's College. Emma breaks down the myths about homeschool socialization while sharing how her classical education prepared her not just for college, but for real-world success as a publicist, nonprofit consultant, and now new mom. From networking her way into competitive jobs to working with Classical Conversations founder Leigh Bortins, Emma proves that homeschoolers don't just survive in the professional world—they excel. Discover how the tools of learning (grammar, dialectic, and rhetoric) translate into workplace success, why authenticity beats aggression in public relations, and what the classical education movement is getting right (and wrong) in the media landscape. Plus, get insider tips on landing your first job out of college and why your network truly is your net worth.   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise and Gutenberg College: Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag, and join us on board!   Over the past 2000 years, the West has developed a successful educational model that guides students toward mature independent thought. Gutenberg College, a Christian, Great Books, undergraduate college in the pacific northwest embraces this time-tested approach. At Gutenberg students are encouraged to boldly pursue truth within a biblical framework. They do so with peers and faculty-mentors in lively small group discussions. To find out more, go to gutenberg.edu.

What if the biggest threat to Christian education isn't coming from the left—but from Christians themselves? In this eye-opening episode of Refining Rhetoric, attorney and author Kevin R. Novak drops a bombshell that will make you rethink everything about school choice, vouchers, and education reform. While most Christians celebrate getting "their tax dollars back" through ESA programs, Novak argues they're actually participating in socialism and expanding the very system they claim to oppose. Drawing from biblical principles of jurisdiction and constitutional law, Novak makes the case that civil government has zero authority over education—period. He reveals how school choice programs are driving up costs, why property taxes for schools are unconstitutional, and how the "Christian establishment" is gatekeeping a true education revival. From dispensationalists to pietists, Novak names the theological movements that got us here and explains why the solution isn't reforming public schools—it's abolishing them entirely.   Resources: https://deconstructingthecoliseum.com/   https://kevinrnovak.com/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort The Classical Learning Cohort offers online classes for parents to become more confident and competent Classical teachers. Through small-group lessons with trained Mentors, participants practice implementing classical skills, giving and receiving assessments, while experiencing transformative growth as a classical Christian educator. Want to learn more? Attend a free, online, Experience the CLC event at classicalconversations.com/cohort.

What if everything the "experts" told us about globalization, economics, and the future was wrong? Dr. Steve Turley, the "Patriot Professor" and author of over 20 books, joins Robert Bortins to discuss his latest work "America Awakened: The Collapse of Globalism and the Return to Faith, Family, and Freedom." They explore why globalism is collapsing after decades of dominance, how civilizational populism is rising worldwide, and what the new post-secular civilization will look like. The conversation covers the spiritual revival happening globally, the importance of classical education in preserving traditional values, the role of AI and technology in returning us to more human-centered approaches, and how the "people versus the permanent political class" realignment is reshaping politics. Dr. Turley explains why he's optimistic about America's future and how MAGA represents a uniquely American expression of the global return to faith, family, and freedom.   Resources: https://www.youtube.com/@DrSteveTurleyTV   https://turleytalks.com/   America Awakened: The Collapse of Globalism and the Return to Faith, Family, and Freedom https://www.amazon.com/America-Awakened-Collapse-Globalism-Freedom/dp/B0FFCWKH2R   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: Have you heard? National Memory Master and National Commencement are moving to the Classical Conversations family cruise in 2026. This cruise isn’t just to celebrate CC graduates and memory masters, it’s for all CC families! You can connect with CC leaders and families at all stages of their journey and turn education into a memorable family adventure as you explore the Bahamas aboard Royal Caribbean's Freedom of the Seas. Check out our landing page at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026.

Is your Christian teen prepared for the intellectual assault waiting at university? Dr. Owen Anderson, Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Arizona State University, pulls back the curtain on what's really happening on college campuses. With 70% of Christian students walking away from their faith in university, Dr. Anderson—a rare conservative Christian voice inside the secular academic machine—reveals the specific challenges your children will face and how to prepare them for battle. You'll discover: ·       The philosophical foundations every Christian student needs before stepping foot on campus ·       How natural law and natural theology provide unshakeable answers to professors' attacks on faith ·       Why the Book of Job is actually the first philosophy textbook—and what it teaches about the problem of evil ·       The biggest misconceptions Christians have about the Book of Revelation (and why it's actually about victory, not defeat) ·       Practical strategies for documenting and reporting anti-Christian bias in the classroom ·       How to find mentors and build support systems that will help your student thrive, not just survive Universities aren't just liberal—they're actively working to destroy your child's faith. But Dr. Anderson proves it's possible to not only survive but thrive in hostile academic environments when you're properly prepared.   Resources: https://drowenanderson.substack.com/   https://drowenanderson.com/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: In a world filled with confusion, clarity begins with God’s Word. At Boyce College, truth isn’t just something we study, it’s the foundation of everything we do. Located in Louisville, Kentucky, Boyce College equips students to know the truth and live it with maximum faithfulness. Learn more and schedule your visit at BoyceCollege.com/Classical-Conversations

What happens when artificial intelligence can write better essays than your students—and they don't even know the difference? In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Bill Davis from Covenant College explores the ethical implications of AI in education and beyond. From the classroom challenges of detecting AI-generated work to the broader questions of human expertise versus machine efficiency, this conversation digs deep into how tools like ChatGPT and Claude are reshaping learning, medicine, and human interaction. Dr. Davis shares practical insights on teaching students to recognize the difference between human creativity and statistically-generated text, while examining the critical question: How do we maintain human agency and wisdom in an increasingly AI-driven world? Whether you're an educator, parent, or simply curious about AI's role in society, this episode offers essential perspectives on navigating the promises and perils of artificial intelligence.   Resources: https://covenant.edu/   Departing In Peace: Biblical Decision-Making at the End of Life by Dr. Bill Davis on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Departing-Peace-Biblical-Decision-Making-Life/dp/1629952591   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by:   Many Americans across the country that feel stuck with their financial institution simply because the idea of switching feels too overwhelming. The team at America’s Christian Credit Union helps make the process easy. Whether it’s looking for better business banking or seeking a financial partner that shares your values, ACCU is here to serve you. If you’re ready to align your banking with your beliefs, it’s time to make the switch to ACCU.   Visit www.AmericasChristianCU.com/CC to learn more and get started today.   America’s Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the NCUA.   We’re partnering with Dad Tired to give away two free tickets to their upcoming retreat—a weekend designed to equip, refresh, and connect Christian fathers who are serious about living out their calling. Whether you’re a longtime listener or just discovering our show, this is your chance to invest in your walk with Christ, your leadership at home, and your brotherhood with other men doing the same. Here’s how to enter: head to the Refining Rhetoric Instagram (or follow this link: https://www.instagram.com/p/DLptZ2DO7Z7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), look for the pinned post about the Dad Tired Retreat giveaway and follow the instructions in the caption. 

What if the key to saving America isn't found in Washington D.C., but in the hands that rock the cradle? Join host Robert as he sits down with Kimberly Fletcher, founder of Moms for America, who transformed from a patriotic mom into a patriot after 9/11 when her Air Force husband narrowly escaped the Pentagon attack. With over 20 years of grassroots activism experience, Kimberly shares how God called her to start a national organization despite feeling completely unqualified—and how that humility became her greatest strength. Discover why Kimberly believes America's identity crisis can only be solved by empowering mothers, how the left wins through storytelling while conservatives fight with statistics, and why building relationships with legislators through birthday cards and thank-you notes is more effective than angry phone calls. From the power of the America 250 celebration to mobilize patriotism, to practical strategies for getting involved in the political process, this episode reveals how ordinary moms are becoming the extraordinary force reshaping American culture. Whether you're a seasoned activist or just waking up to the need for involvement, Kimberly's journey from homeschool mom to national leader will inspire you to step into your calling and discover the immeasurable influence you have simply by being who you are.   Resources: https://momsforamerica.us/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: Have you heard? National Memory Master and National Commencement are moving to the Classical Conversations family cruise in 2026. This cruise isn’t just to celebrate CC graduates and memory masters, it’s for all CC families! You can connect with CC leaders and families at all stages of their journey and turn education into a memorable family adventure as you explore the Bahamas aboard Royal Caribbean's Freedom of the Seas. Check out our landing page at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026.     We’re partnering with Dad Tired to give away two free tickets to their upcoming retreat—a weekend designed to equip, refresh, and connect Christian fathers who are serious about living out their calling. Whether you’re a longtime listener or just discovering our show, this is your chance to invest in your walk with Christ, your leadership at home, and your brotherhood with other men doing the same. Here’s how to enter: head to the Refining Rhetoric Instagram (or follow this link: https://www.instagram.com/p/DLptZ2DO7Z7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), look for the pinned post about the Dad Tired Retreat giveaway and follow the instructions in the caption. 

What if the secret to raising spiritually mature kids isn't found in the latest parenting book, but in letting Scripture do the heavy lifting? Robert interviews Josh Niemi, founder of Expository Parenting Ministries, about his unique approach to Christian parenting that mirrors expository preaching—teaching children the Bible verse by verse in systematic discipleship. Josh shares how to start with storybook Bibles for younger children before transitioning to verse-by-verse study, the importance of partnering with expositional churches, and how this method builds solid theological foundations without common evangelical misconceptions. He offers practical insights from teaching his own three children through the entire Old Testament and discusses children's surprising capacity for understanding deep theology. The conversation also covers his book "Greater Than Aaron," exploring how Christ fulfills the Old Testament priesthood.   Resources: https://www.expositoryparenting.org/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort The Classical Learning Cohort offers online classes for parents to become more confident and competent Classical teachers. Through small-group lessons with trained Mentors, participants practice implementing classical skills, giving and receiving assessments, while experiencing transformative growth as a classical Christian educator. Want to learn more? Attend a free, online, Experience the CLC event at classicalconversations.com/cohort.

What if your teenager knows all the "right" Christian answers but can't defend a single one? Join Robert Bortins as he sits down with Steve Noble, former Christian talk radio host turned educator, who's taught over 1,400 high school homeschoolers since 2011. After 17 years on the airwaves, Steve made the bold decision to leave radio behind and focus entirely on equipping the next generation through his classes in civics, U.S. history, world history, and Christian ethics. Discover why civic ignorance is rampant even among conservative Christian kids, how to balance truth and grace in our polarized culture, and why teaching students how to think biblically is more crucial than ever. Steve shares hard-won wisdom about moving from cultural warrior to grace-filled educator, plus practical insights for parents wanting to raise kids who can defend their faith with both conviction and love.   Resources: https://www.nobleuschool.com/   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: Have you heard? National Memory Master and National Commencement are moving to the Classical Conversations family cruise in 2026. This cruise isn’t just to celebrate CC graduates and memory masters, it’s for all CC families! You can connect with CC leaders and families at all stages of their journey and turn education into a memorable family adventure as you explore the Bahamas aboard Royal Caribbean's Freedom of the Seas. Check out our landing page at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026.

Could competitive debate actually strengthen your child's faith while building their confidence? Most parents never imagine their quiet kid becoming a national-level debater, but that's exactly what happened in this family. In this inspiring mother-son interview, Alyssa and Thaddeus share their remarkable journey through Stoa (Speech & Debate) and Classical Conversations. Discover how Thaddeus transformed into a persuasive communicator now thriving on Patrick Henry College's varsity mock trial team. Learn how Stoa's Christian approach to speech and debate not only builds communication skills but strengthens biblical worldview, creates lifelong friendships, and prepares students to "speak boldly and change the world for Christ." Whether you're a homeschooling parent wondering if your child could handle public speaking or curious about integrating rigorous academics with character development, this episode reveals the powerful combination of Classical Conversations and competitive speech and debate.   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by Stoa Christian Homeschool Speech and Debate League https://www.stoausa.org/

Why has Pride Month become less about tolerance and more about forced celebration—and what can faithful churches do about it? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Dr. Rosaria Butterfield—former lesbian activist turned pastor's wife—explains how LGBTQ ideology became a cultural idol and why the evangelical church's "winsome" approach has failed. She offers biblical guidance for churches and parents on how to faithfully respond during Pride Month by boldly proclaiming gospel truth rather than negotiating with idols. Key Discussion Points: -              How the gay rights movement evolved from privatization to mandatory celebration -              Why LGBTQ ideology functions as an idol demanding worship and child sacrifice -              The evangelical church's failed strategy of compromise over truth -              Practical advice for parents of prodigals struggling with sexual sin -              What churches should do during Pride Month instead of staying silent -              Why Gen Z is hungry for bold truth over therapeutic excuses Resources: https://rosariabutterfield.com/ "The Lust of the Flesh: Thinking Biblically About Sexual Orientation" by Jared Moore "The Enemy Within" by Chris Lundgaard John Owen's works on indwelling sin "From Transgender to Transformed" by Laura Perry Smalts Decision Point (decisionpoint.org)   This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by Copper Lodge Library 2025 New Releases  Explore the exciting new 2025 additions to the Classical Conversations Bookstore! From engaging philosophy studies with Reasoning Together to timeless classics in the Copper Lodge Library and innovative math resources like the four new domains of The Math Map and two unique math flashcard sets, these tools are designed to support classical, Christian education at every level. Visit classicalconversations.com/whatsnew/ to see all the new releases and take advantage of savings of up to $30 off in April.

What if the same skills that solve decades-old murders could prove the reliability of the Gospels? Cold case detective J. Warner Wallace was a committed atheist who thought Christianity was fiction—until he applied his investigative training to the New Testament. What he discovered changed everything. J. Warner Wallace, a featured cold case detective from NBC Dateline and author of the bestselling "Cold Case Christianity," shares his remarkable journey from committed atheist to Christian apologist. Wallace explains why evidential faith is like wearing a bulletproof vest in a gunfight—especially crucial for raising kids in today's increasingly hostile culture. Key Themes: •    How detective skills reveal biblical truth through forensic statement analysis •    Why our culture shifted from positive to negative toward Christianity •    The difference between "belief that" and "belief in" •    Why parental passion about faith is more contagious than any program This conversation will challenge how you think about faith, evidence, and raising the next generation of believers in an increasingly skeptical world. Resources: https://coldcasechristianity.com/ https://www.casemakersacademy.com/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by The Math Map: Monomials The Math Map Monomials helps families practice introductory algebraic computation together using classical skills that prepare students for the mathematical conversation of the ages. Visit https://classicalconversations.com/the-math-map/ today to transform your family's math experience!