Deconstructing Mamas

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Grace and Space (Looking Back, Looking Forward) - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz

2025-12-0235:59

After eight seasons, countless conversations, and a whole lot of laughter, tears, unraveling, and becoming, we are releasing our final episode of the Deconstructing Mamas podcast. This one is different. Instead of one long conversation, we’re weaving together short, meaningful snippets from every season — tiny heartbeats that capture the essence of what this journey has been for us and for so many of you. Between each season, we share small reflections about what we’ve learned and who we’re b...

Love as Resistance - Dr. Glenn Siepert

2025-11-2556:33

In this powerful and honest conversation, Esther and Liz sit down with returning guest and friend Dr. Glenn Siepert — author, artist, and creator of The What If Project. Together, they explore: ✨ What it feels like when faith unravels… again Glenn shares the disorienting (and strangely hopeful) experience of realizing that the beliefs that once felt solid no longer hold up — and how returning to the “still small voice” inside changed everything. ✨ The difference between the loud voice of outr...

Reimagining Community - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz

2025-11-1848:36

In this third-to-last episode of Deconstructing Mamas, we talk about one of the biggest questions we’ve been asked over the past four years: What does community look like now, after everything we’ve lost? For so many of us, the communities we left behind were built around sameness — shared beliefs, shared behaviors, shared expectations. Belonging depended on staying inside the lines, and when we stepped outside them, everything changed. In this honest conversation, we explore: what we wer...

Sacred Rage - Ben Cremer

2025-11-0401:12:19

We sat down with Rev. Benjamin Cremer, writer, pastor, and creator of Into the Gray, to talk about what it looks like to hold sacred anger with open hands. This conversation stretched from “What if I’m wrong?” to “How do we keep from passing our pain along?” We talked about retributive vs. restorative justice, how lament can heal our nervous systems, and why gentleness might just be the most radical form of resistance. Ben reminded us that curiosity is a spiritual practice, lament is a sacred...

Learning to Trust What we Feel - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz

2025-10-2801:04:30

In this vulnerable and deeply human conversation, Esther and Lizz open up about the long, complicated process of learning to trust their emotions — after being raised in systems that taught them not to. They talk about what it means to rebuild emotional safety after high-control religion, where feelings were often dismissed as sinful, deceptive, or dangerous. Together, they explore how learning to honor their emotions has transformed their faith, relationships, and parenting. This episode is ...

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