The Safety Meeting

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, Dr. Seth Hickerson, founder of My Steady Mind, discusses the critical link between psychological safety, mental fitness, and workplace safety. Dr. Hickerson shares his expertise from high-risk industries, explaining how environments characterized by volatility, uncertainty, change, and ambiguity (VUCA) need both physical safety measures, and proactive mental health strategies. He explains how distraction, stress, and burnout can lead to safety incidents, and why organizations must move beyond reactive solutions to integrate mental fitness training into their jobsite culture.(00:00) Welcome Dr. Seth Hickerson(00:58) Defining psychological safety and its impact on workplace performance(02:07) The VUCA environment: what it means and why it matters(05:47) How mental health challenges contribute to workplace incidents(07:40) The difference between proactive training and reactive treatment(10:00) Why leadership buy-in is essential for culture change(11:04) Making mental health training engaging: “hide the medicine in the cheese”(13:10) Supporting employees facing mental health challenges(16:12) Using assessments to identify soft skills gaps in organizations(19:10) Creating a shared language for stress management(22:22) The four steps of emotional intelligence(27:55) Final thoughts and practical takeaways for listenersThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting’s Safety Lab, we explore why overall workplace safety  metrics are improving but Serious Injury and Fatality (SIF) rates remain flat or are increasing. We discuss the traditional Hendrick Safety Triangle and introduce a SIF prevention model which focuses on identifying and addressing high-risk precursors. Additionally, we talk proactive strategies that are being employed by safety professionals: How leveraging data smartly and earning leadership support helps create a proactive safety culture. Through real-world examples and a structured Plan-Do-Check-Act (PDCA) approach, we provide a framework for improving SIF prevention.(00:35) Understanding Safety Statistics Trends(01:55) The Hendrick Safety Triangle(02:57) New SIF Prevention Model(04:31) Defining Serious Injury and SIF Potential(06:27) Identifying Precursors and Indicators(08:41) Practical Steps for Safety Managers(14:54) Tools and Technologies for SIF Prevention(16:52) Measuring Success and Overcoming Barriers(18:48) Implementing PDCA for SIF Prevention(20:34) Conclusion and Final ThoughtsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we’re joined by Monica Patel, Senior Product Manager at KPA, to talk about the business case for safety technology. We discuss leveraging technology to tackle safety and compliance challenges, ways to make a strong business case for safety tech to the C-Suite, and look at metrics for calculating return on investment (ROI). We uncover the hidden costs of workplace injuries and common roadblocks in technology implementation, and unpack strategies for demonstrating business value while stressing the importance of investing in employee well-being.(00:00) Welcome to the Safety Meeting(01:20) The Business Case for Safety Technology(02:51) Calculating ROI for Safety Tech(04:07) Hidden Costs and Benefits of Safety Tech(05:59) Effective Safety Technologies(07:19) Overcoming Implementation Challenges(08:33) Handling Pushback and Building Buy-In(12:20) Future Trends in Safety Technology(14:29) Final ThoughtsPlease see the episode of the The Safety Lab, we talked about today.Thanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

On this episode of The Safety Meeting’s Safety Lab, we look at a recently published study by the  Workers Compensation Research Institute, “The Impact of Excessive Heat on the Frequency of Work-related Injuries.” We unpack the study to see how increasing temperatures might be creating risks in the workplace that are often overlooked.(00:14) The Impact of Excessive Heat on Workplace Safety(01:04) Direct and Indirect Injuries(03:48) Temperature and Injury Rates(05:56) Regional Differences in Heat-Related Injuries(07:45) Industry-Specific Heat Impacts(10:29) Mitigating Heat Risks in the WorkplaceThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting’s Safety Lab, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, Zach Pucillo, KPA’s EHS Regulatory Compliance Manager, joins us for a mid-year regulatory update. He covers the impact of the newly formed Department of Government Efficiency, state vs. federal regulatory dynamics, OSHA's proposed heat safety rule, and the regulatory implications of the Loper Bright case. He also explains the evolving landscape of emerging technologies in safety, data-driven programs, and how companies are adapting amidst regulatory uncertainty.(00:00) Welcome to the Safety Meeting(00:58) Impact of the New Department of Government Efficiency(06:36) Federal and State Regulatory Dynamics(12:34) Heat Safety Regulations and State-Level Activity(17:55) Impact of the Loper Bright Ruling(21:03) Impact of EPA Permit Changes(22:26) Technological Innovations in Safety(27:23) Adapting to Regulatory Shifts in Key Industries(32:30) The Role of Safety Professionals Amidst Deregulation(36:41) Final ThoughtsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we talk emerging technology with Mulango Akpo-Esambe, Creative Services Manager at KPA, and Jill Schaefer, KPA’s  Director of Content Management. We discuss the evolving impact of Augmented Reality and Artificial Intelligence technologies on safety training, specifically how AR can create interactive safety experiences and how AI can help personalize training. Mulango and Jill share practical examples of how new tech can complement and supplement proven hands-on methods. We also discuss possible concerns about adopting AI tech, but also share excitement about how these innovations can help safety professionals keep their workplaces and workers safer.(00:00) Welcome to The Safety Meeting(00:15) Meet Mulango Akpo-Esambe and Jill Schaefer(01:13) Innovations in Training: AI and AR(02:39) Augmented Reality in Safety Training(07:57) AI's Role in Future Training Programs(15:55) Measuring Training Effectiveness(22:56) Cost-Effective Safety Training Solutions(25:07) Embracing the Future of Safety Training(25:40) Final ThoughtsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, KPA’s  Senior Vice President of Hazardous Industries Deren Boyd unpacks digital transformation in safety management. We talk practical strategies for integrating leadership, technology, and operations to foster a strong safety culture. Deren encourages safety leaders to engage frontline workers, simplify processes in the transition from paper to digital systems, and measure success through active participation. He emphasizes the importance of leadership visibility, how digital tools can bolster both efficiency and safety gains, and speaks to how trust and communication are key to achieving meaningful safety at the worksite.(01:22) The Role of Leadership in Safety Culture(04:42) Empowering Frontline Workers(11:56) Daily Reinforcement of Safety Culture(18:49) Overcoming Barriers to Safety Culture Transition(22:04) Measuring Success in Safety Culture Initiatives(28:36) Integrating Safety Software into Workflows(34:25) Evolving Relationships During Digital TransformationThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of the Safety Meeting, we consider workplace safety for new hires, talking with Zach Pucillo, KPA’s EHS Compliance Manager, and David Pomaville, Director of Environmental Health and Safety at Caglia Environmental. We look at the unique risks that new hires face in their first year on the job and discuss effective onboarding practices and training techniques to ensure new workers are prepared and safe. David shares real-world examples of how he is shaping Caglia’s safety culture to help protect new hires. Zach explains how a grease fire in his childhood kitchen led to being "grounded for life” and also inspired his career in safety.(00:17) Welcome Zach Pucillo and David Pomaville(01:01) The High Risk of First-Year Employees(02:08) Industry-Specific Injury Statistics for New Hires(03:11) Effective Onboarding and Hiring Practices(06:40) Engaging Training Techniques(10:40) The Power of Storytelling in Safety Training(14:17) Balancing General and Specific Safety Training(15:48) Training Tools and Techniques(18:38) Reinforcing Safety HabitsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we speak with Jade Brainard, Senior Director of Product Management at KPA, to explore successful strategies for building a safety-first culture that prioritizes frontline workers. Jade highlights the importance of leadership commitment, the role of technology in enhancing safety programs, and the ways organizations can engage frontline employees. She provides real-world examples and practical advice on fostering two-way communication, using tech tools, and how recognizing safety behavior empowers employees.(00:16) Welcome Jade Jade Brainard: Senior Director of Product Management at KPA(00:50) Building a Safety-First Culture(02:20) Leadership's Role in Safety Engagement(05:02) Overcoming Common Safety Barriers(06:58) The Impact of Technology on Safety Programs(10:17) Empowering Frontline Workers by Recognizing and Rewarding Safety Behaviors(14:34) Creating Relevant and Practical Safety Training(16:30) Future Trends in Safety and Advice for 2025 and BeyondThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

We dive into a new study, published in the Journal of Safety Science that looked at over 12,000 injury cases to understand how a company's Psychological Safety Culture affected how long employees were off work and the costs involved.(00:20) Introduction to Psychological Safety Climate (PSC)(01:22) The Role of Leadership in PSC(02:38) Study Findings: Impact of High PSC(06:15) Understanding Job Strain and Recovery(08:10) Implementing PSC in the WorkplaceThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting’s Safety Lab, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we welcome Zach Pucillo,  EHS Regulatory Compliance Manager at KPA. Zach is a certified safety professional and certified hazardous materials manager, recognized in 2022 by the Alliance of Hazardous Materials Professionals as Hazardous Materials Professional of the Year. Today, we chat about 2025 regulations and safety best practices in the new year.(00:20) Welcome Zach Pucillo(00:47) Major Trends in Workplace Safety for 2025(01:30) Regulatory Changes and Their Impacts(02:52) Heat Illness Regulation and Compliance(07:49) Final Stages of Key Regulations(10:49) State-Level Influences on Safety Regulations(13:15) Industry-Specific Safety Challenges(16:18) Emerging Technologies in Safety(21:36) Adapting to Regulatory Changes(23:57) Actionable Advice for Safety Managers(27:59) Looking Ahead to 2025Thanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we welcome Amanda Rawls, Director of EHS Field Services at KPA, to discuss the OSHA record keeping and year-end reporting. Amanda brings over 20 years of experience in the automotive industry and shares insights on compliance, navigating complexities, and emerging trends like heat illness reporting. Learn how to utilize OSHA data to drive meaningful safety improvements and avoid common pitfalls in documentation processes.(00:16) Meet Amanda Rawls, Director of EHS Field Services at KPA(01:01) Understanding OSHA Record Keeping and Reporting(03:28) Who Needs to Comply with OSHA Reporting?(04:38) The Importance of Year-End Reporting(08:19) Recent Changes in OSHA Regulations(09:29) Common Challenges in OSHA Reporting(12:11) Emerging Trends in Workforce Safety(14:39) The Consequences of Poor Reporting(19:13) Best Practices for Year-End Reporting(21:19) Conclusion and Final ThoughtsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

On this episode of The Safety Meeting, we talk safety culture with KPA’s Jesse Buck and Jesse Romanchak. They share valuable insights on what sets companies with strong safety cultures apart, the challenges unique to various industries, and the importance of management buy-in. We discuss practical ways to foster a strong safety culture, like Stop Work authority programs and micro-content trainings. Both Jesses stress how training and consistent reinenforcement can transform workplace safety culture, and ensure workers go home safely each day.(00:17) Meet KPA’s Jesse Buck and Jesse Romanchak(01:11) Identifying Strong Safety Cultures(03:09) Unique Safety Challenges Across Industries(04:08) Developing Effective Training Programs(08:26) The Importance of Management Buy-In(11:06) Fostering a Team Atmosphere Around Safety(15:58) Addressing Weak Safety Cultures(21:57) Building a Safety-First MindsetThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode, we talk with Monica Patel, KPA’s Software Product Manager, and Taylor Thorn, Senior Product Director at KPA about contract workers. We discuss the opportunities and challenges of managing workers from outside an organization, including setting training standards, ensuring regulatory compliance, and flagging site-specific risks. We chat about ways to ensure safety through effective onboarding and adoption of contractor management software.(00:17) Welcome Monica Patel and Taylor Thorn(01:26) The Growing Importance of Contractor Management(05:02) Safety Challenges with Contractors(08:41) Strategies for Effective Contractor Onboarding(10:49) Real-Life Examples of Contractor Management(22:27) Balancing Safety and Efficiency(23:40) Future Trends in Contractor ManagementThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we connect with Greg McCully, founder and managing partner of 2Six Advisors, to discuss building an EHS toolkit for different types of organizations with a commitment to safety.(00:52) – Caring about EHS(02:11) – Managing unique risks(03:51) – Two types of organizations(07:10) – EHS software benefits(10:00) – Managing workflows(13:20) – Getting started with EHS software(15:14) – What’s on the horizon?(18:31) – Listen to the workforceThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we connect with Jade Brainard, KPA’s Senior Director of Product, and David Finley, Director of Health, Safety, and Environmental at Dolese Bros. Co., discuss setting safety goals, measuring meaningful metrics, and leadership buy-in and visible commitment to safety.(2:19) – Setting smart metrics and KPIs(5:25) – Dolese’s goal-setting process(7:39) – Reporting and goal-setting frequency(9:57) – Sharing the data(11:18) – Leadership buy-in(12:23) – Measure what mattersThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we connect with Jill Schaefer, KPA’s Director of Content Management, and Taylor Thorn, KPA’s Senior Product Director and founder of Anchor Rock, about strategies for creating effective toolbox talks. Jill and Taylor overview how to increase energy and engagement in safety meetings and outline how digital processes and the right technology are key safety tools for the future.(01:06) – Toolbox talks (05:45) – Critical concerns of hazardous industry teams(10:49) – Why does this matter?(13:15) – Getting everyone involved(17:37) – Significance of visuals(21:24) – AI and predictive modeling(26:45) – KPA FlexResources https://www.npr.org/2023/04/24/1171680974/how-we-process-informationhttps://www.fastcompany.com/90994638/attention-span-shrinking-social-media-tiktok-long-videoshttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-psyched/201207/learning-through-visuals https://www.forbes.com/sites/brettnelson/2012/06/04/do-you-read-fast-enough-to-be-successful/https://news.mit.edu/2014/in-the-blink-of-an-eye-0116Thanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, we connect with Zach Pucillo, KPA’s EHS Regulatory Compliance Manager, for a mid-regulations review. Zach overviews changes that have occurred thus far in 2024 ranging from updated chemical bans from the EPA, the expansion of hazardous material response plans under the Clean Water Act, and OSHA’s evolving regulations.(01:24) – Clean Water Act expansion of response plans(03:05) – News from the EPA(06:33) – OSHA Designated Employee Representative Rule Update(08:17) – OSHA Heat Illness Prevention Standard(09:55) – Restructuring of OSHA regions(11:13) – Enforcing new rules and existing regulations(16:16) – Promoting sustainability and environmental stewardship(21:28) – Transportation and logistics challenges(25:38) – Key influences and trends on the regulatory environment(28:40) – How to stay informed(30:29) – A lighthearted touchThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, Jeremy Denton, Senior Construction Safety Engineer with Alpha & Omega Safety, discusses a multifaceted approach to success in workplace safety. His toolbox for success includes embracing the many capabilities of digital tools, building trust and genuine connections, and investing in the future of safety professionals.(0:46) – Assessing success in safety(2:54) – Challenges for safety professionals(7:29) – Advocating for technology in safety practices(10:20) – From paper to digital(16:08) – An effective toolbox talk(19:03) – Mentorship of safety professionals(22:01) – The value and responsibility of safety professionals(23:16) – ROI of safety softwareThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.

In this episode of The Safety Meeting, KPA’s Emily Hartman, Senior Marketing Communications Manager, and Jade Brainard, Senior Director of Product Management, highlight KPA Connect. Launched in 2022, the customer community provides a space for user collaboration and discussion to take full advantage of KPA Flex software’s capabilities and impact future updates and improvements.(1:10) – Hot topics on KPA Connect(3:52) – Diverse perspectives(6:08) – Tapping into collective wisdom(9:01) – Users banding together to find business solutions(12:25) – Refining products with community engagement(14:50) – Collaborative effortsThanks for joining another episode of The Safety Meeting, the podcast that makes you smarter about current trends and best practices in workforce safety. From employee engagement to actionable data, and everything in between, tune in to hear how you can work more safely.If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to The Safety Meeting in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really helps others find the show.Podcast episode production by Dante32.