#683: Candy now — or a toy later? You slide play money across the table and let your kid choose.
That moment kicks off this episode, where Dr. Stephen Day joins us to talk about building a “mini economy” at home.
Dr. Day is the director of the Center for Economic Education at Virginia Commonwealth University. He also holds a PhD in social studies and economics curriculum and instruction. His work looks at how kids form money habits long before they deal with real paychecks, budgets, or credit cards.
We break down how a mini economy actually works. Kids have job titles tied to age-appropriate chores. They earn play money. They spend it at a small household store set up on the kitchen table. The store might sell candy, small toys, or privileges like extra screen time. Parents set the prices. Kids decide whether to spend right away or save for something bigger.
You hear how this plays out inside Day’s own house. A three-year-old takes on the role of “zookeeper,” feeding the cat and picking up stuffed animals. A seven-year-old creates a weekly plan that alternates spending and saving, using patterns she learns at school. A five-year-old chooses to donate part of his earnings instead of spending anything. The system stays the same. The choices vary by kid.
The conversation moves through childhood stage by stage. Early years center on routine, structure, and basic trade-offs. Elementary school becomes the key period for practice, when habits and norms take shape. Middle and high school bring longer planning timelines, more independence, and deeper conversations about work, contribution, and goals.
We also dig into questions parents ask all the time. Should kids get paid for chores, or should chores come with living in the house? Day explains how families can separate family work, paid jobs, and service work so kids understand why they are doing each task. Clear categories help avoid confusion about motivation and responsibility.
Busy schedules come up, too. Sports practices, travel, school events, and late workdays often knock chore systems off track. Day explains how vague expectations create conflict and why job titles and defined duties bring structure even during chaotic weeks.
Throughout the episode, the focus stays on practice, not lectures. Kids do not learn money by hearing explanations. They learn by earning, choosing, saving, spending, and living with trade-offs — all inside a system small enough to fit on a kitchen table.
Resource:
Book: How to Teach a Kid to Save https://amzn.to/4jVOtze
EconEdLink, a CEE program https://econedlink.org
Timestamps:
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(00:00) Intro
(02:00) Teaching kids money
(03:59) Mini economy basics
(06:20) Money skills by stages
(10:41) Starting at age three
(12:02) Cat job example
(16:08) Goods versus privileges
(17:27) Bugging versus choices
(18:11) Paying for chores
(20:22) Family job service
(24:56) Busy weeks and chores
(33:21) Low-consumption kid example
(39:17) Shared jobs and teamwork
(43:34) Exchange rate to dollars
(1:00:28) Investing, 529, compound interest
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I was like, who is the cute old man listening to the podcast?! And it's Paula's dad?! I love it.
This guest is insufferable. Paula is patient and asks the right questions, but the guest can't respond with any nuance. This attitude turns me off crypto even more.
Small world. I interviewed for that same job he had back in 2010 in Iowa and I didn't even get it. 😂
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Hi Paula, love the show and I look forward to the new episodes. I know you generally try to be really positive answering the questions, but I was bothered a little with the one where the woman from Florida who wants to retire at age 60 and is currently 44 with no retirement savings. I think you and Joe did a good job of trying to keep her hopes up, but it seemed the bottom line for her was she just may not be able to retire when she wants to. She said she already had a debt to income ratio of 45 pct and continues to add to her debt and has no emergency fund. That combined with other expenses and her income of 112k I bet she would have a hard time saving even 10k a year for retirement. And even if she could do it, that amount over 16 years at 7pct return would yield less than $300k. Hardly a nest egg. I know you mentioned that she didn't say in her question if she would be working part time when she retires or not, but sometimes people just need the hard truth and I don't think she got
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What a loon. Paula trying to add nuance while this guy is one track.
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