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Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.

Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.

If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.

This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.

From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.

Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com

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The right digital marketing strategy can turn high-cost clicks into millions in revenue. We want to help your business achieve this and more!Partner with our marketing experts today: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Today, we continue our review of a real-world personal injury law firm case study where we transformed a modest ad spend into over $184 million in settlements. We didn't just buy media; we built a strategic, multi-channel system that generated outstanding results.I’ll walk you through the specific steps we took, from installing tracking software to optimizing the site post-click. The game-changer was refining the landing pages and ad creatives, improving conversion rates, and building a cohesive Google and Meta strategy. Consequently, we achieved a significant drop in cost per signed case and a massive increase in qualified leads.If you're serious about scaling your business, whether in legal services or other services, this three-part series will help you refine your approach to paid media in 2026 and beyond. In This Episode:- Introduction and part 1 recap- Optimizing after-the-click experience - Results after optimizing landing pages- Continued optimization of Meta and Google ads- Google Ads performance in 2025- How Meta and Google work together- Final results: Scaling to $184 million in settlementsMentioned in the Episode:Watch Part 1 of How We Made a Personal Injury Law Firm $55.2M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_SiPLJYzkI Download Tier 11’s Marketing Performance Indicators (MPI) Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/mpi Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Tier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Previous Episodes On The Personal Injury Law Case Study: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=personal+injury+law Watch the Episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns:...
You can scale your business fast with the right digital marketing partners and strategy.Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply  Are you still betting your entire growth plan on Google? If you’re treating search like the “engine,” you might be building demand everywhere else and giving it zero credit.In this case study, I break down four years of work inside one of the most brutally competitive niches we serve. Personal injury law. We took a Michigan firm from messy tracking and misaligned leads to a machine that consistently optimized for the only metric that matters: signed cases. Early on, we drove a 70% drop in cost per signed case to about $1,518 and still achieved roughly a 20x ROI. I’ll walk you through the Meta and Google synergy, the tracking stack that made optimization possible, and the “signed case maximizer” framework we use to scale without drowning in junk leads. In This Episode:- Early wins: leads, CPL, and CPC improvements- The 1,500 CAC and 20x ROI math- Spending $2,900 per signed case for $55m in revenue- Case diagnosis: no avatar and conversion tracking- Prescription: installing Tier 11 Data Suite- Deploying the signed case maximizer framework- Using Google’s 90-day conversion tracking window- Installing the digital strategy velocity engine- Combining Meta and Google ads to maximize results- Impressions and leads from optimized adsMentioned in the Episode:Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite  Tier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Previous Episodes On The Personal Injury Law Case: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=personal+injury+law Watch the Episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram -
Stop settling for slow revenue growth! You can scale your business fast with the right digital marketing partners and strategy.Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Why do some businesses just seem to explode in revenue while others struggle to scale? It's not luck, it’s strategy. In today’s episode, we’re reviewing a premium e-commerce case study that shows exactly how we helped a $5M brand reach $32M in just two years. We’ll talk about how we tackled some of their biggest challenges, from limiting customer acquisition costs to refining their targeting and focusing on their hero products. With a premium product and a clear goal, we fine-tuned their marketing approach to deliver a 543% increase in revenue and a 503% increase in new customers. You can apply the same strategy to your own business, whether you’re in e-commerce, services, or even digital products. Tune in to learn the steps we took and how they’re planning for even bigger success in the coming years.In This Episode:- Case study: scaling revenue from $5M to $32M- Key challenges that stunted revenue growth- The steps we took to scale faster and the results- Leveraging insights from Tier 11’s Data Suite- The impact of creative diversification on Meta ads- Conclusion and the client’s growth plansMentioned in the Episode:Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Marketing Performance Indicators (MPI) Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/marketing-performance-indicators Tier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Previous Episode On Why Meta Is The Best Ad Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRnglXjlwMo Watch the Episode on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X:
If you’re still measuring success by direct conversions alone, you could be missing the bigger picture in your campaigns. Meta is shifting its focus, and if you're not adapting, your business will be left behind.In today’s episode, we share insights from testing with over $50 million in ad spend. You’ll hear about the importance of metrics like hook rate and hold rate, and how creative optimization is key to staying ahead. We also explain why viewing your campaigns holistically, not just through conversions, is the future of effective ad buying.Plus, you’ll gain a clear understanding of how to navigate these changes, tweak your media buying strategy, and optimize your campaigns for better customer acquisition. Join the conversation now and learn how we’re adjusting our strategy to scale ad performance and acquire customers profitably.In This Episode:- Meta’s shift from sales to leading indicators- Why video ads are now key to ad performance- Live presentation: analysing hook and hold rates- How hook rate and hold rate work together- Real-world examples of hook and hold rates testing- Why media buyers need to be growth strategists nowMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode with Motion’s CEO: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-769-the-biggest-creative-trends-in-2026-revealed-with-reza-khadjavi/Previous Episodes with John Moran: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=john+moranWatch the Episode on YouTube: https://perpetualtraffic.com/youtubeListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowIf your campaigns aren’t scaling as you'd like and CPMs keep rising, it’s time to refresh your social media marketing strategy. In today’s episode, we explain in detail why creative diversification is the key to succeeding with Meta ads in 2026 and beyond.We discuss how to break free from old, hacky methods like the Michigan Method and explain how the Meta algorithm is designed to do the heavy lifting, if you let it. We talk about the importance of running multiple, varied ads to speak to different segments of your audience and provide real examples of how this works in practice.If you want to know how to evolve your approach, increase engagement, and set up campaigns that actually scale, you won’t want to miss this one. You’ll understand why "one-size-fits-all" advertising no longer cuts it and what to do instead.In This Episode:- How Facebook ads have evolved over time- Creative diversification explained- How to create different ICPs for Meta ads- Designing the right creative angle for each audience- Looking for ad hacks vs developing a strong brand- Final thoughts on outdated advertising strategiesMentioned in the Episode:Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdfMeta's Ad Creative Guidelines: https://web.facebook.com/business/m/small-business/creative-differentiation?_rdc=1&_rdr#Previous episode on the Michigan Method: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/scale-your-facebook-ad-campaign/Previous episode with Cole Turner: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-747-the-1-mistake-thats-secretly-killing-your-meta-andromeda-ads-with-cole-turner/Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn -
Are you hesitant to invest in your team, fearing they might leave after you put in all that time and money? What if the real risk is in not investing, and they stay? Low-performing and uninspired. In this episode, Lauren and I chat about how investing in your team can create a powerful internal moat that attracts the right people and drives your business forward.We discuss a recent initiative at Lauren's company in which a team member took the lead to improve an internal process and created an SOP for it. It's a perfect example of why fostering initiative and empowering employees to take ownership can elevate your entire team’s performance.If you're struggling to create that type of culture, this conversation will give you ideas for reevaluating your core values to ensure your team’s alignment and ultimately build a work environment where the best talent thrives. We also explore how these ideas translate into digital marketing, leadership, and managing remote teams effectively.In This Episode:- Core values, employee initiative, & continuous learning- The risk of not investing in your team and gatekeeping- Meta's strategic investments in employee acquisition and AI- Creating an internal moat for your business- The people analyzer process, based on core values- Adapting to external challenges in digital marketing- Why radical candor and emotional intelligence are critical- Final thoughts on creating a moat and call to actionMentioned in the Episode:Gino Wickman’s book, Traction: https://a.co/d/01q1TP4OPatrick Lencioni’s book, The Ideal Team Player: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1119209595/Creating custom emojis on Slack: https://slack.com/help/articles/206870177-Add-custom-emoji-and-aliases-to-your-workspaceApply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram -
Stop losing customer insights to privacy blockers! Make confident, data-driven marketing decisions with Tier 11’s Data Suite.Learn more and schedule a call at: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Are you flying blind with your ad data? With ad blockers, privacy laws, and tracking issues, Meta can't always give you the full picture. So how do you trust your numbers and make better decisions for your business?In today’s episode, we tackle a crucial topic for anyone managing Meta ads: how to optimize data for accurate results. Joined by Cameron Campbell, we explain the difference between Meta’s Conversion API (CAPI) and the Tier 11 Data Suite, and why relying on just in-platform metrics can lead you to make costly mistakes.We also talk about the role of first-party data and why it's the foundation for building a solid marketing strategy. We wrap up with proven strategies on improving your ad campaign's performance, understanding customer acquisition costs, and knowing when to pull the plug on underperforming campaigns.In This Episode:- What are Marketing Performance Indicators (MPIs)?- The problem with Meta's in-platform data- Comparing Meta’s CAPI with Tier 11 Data Suite- Differences between first-party and third-party data- How to measure customer acquisition costs accurately- Measuring nCAC with Tier 11 Data Suite vs. CAPI- Comparing data in Meta vs Tier 11 Data Suite’s interfaces- Understanding time lag and how it impacts your decisionsMentioned in the Episode:Get Your Marketing Performance Indicators (MPIs) Checklist Now: https://www.tiereleven.com/mpi Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Cameron Campbell:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-campbell-b5070759/ Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - a...
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowAre you still pausing “winning” ads because Meta tells you the CPA is broken? In this episode, we break down the next layer of our three-part series on why turning off Meta’s conversion obsession is the smartest move you can make right now.John Moran walks us through a real case study where individual category campaigns, feeder strategy, and engagement metrics drove an 80% lift in new customers. We unpack why hook rate, CTR, and directional signals matter more than platform-reported conversions, and how Shopify and blended nCAC become the real source of truth.We also connect the dots between Meta and Google in a way most marketers completely miss. You’ll hear how improved Meta creative reduced Google spend by 20% while increasing total new customers by 37%. And if you want proof that Meta is a top-of-funnel growth engine and not an attribution tool, this episode lays it out step by step.In This Episode:- Why you should not pause winning ads- Hook rate & outbound CTR benchmarks- Example of benchmarking with nCAC- Amazon, Google, and Meta sales overlap- Case study: Meta’s impact on Google resultsMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episodes On Why You Should Not Pause Ads: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_trafficTier 11’s nCAC: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncacTier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suiteListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now CPAs look awful, so you pause the ads, and then revenue drops across channels. That’s not you. That’s the new reality of Meta Andromeda and the GEM-style ecosystem where “underperformers” can be the very ads feeding your whole business.John Moran is back to help us break down why cost per result and conversion columns can completely derail your decision-making. We walk through a real example where shifting spend away from a core set of ads didn’t just hurt Meta; it dragged down Amazon, Google, and everything else. Stick around to learn how we analyze ads by spend, identify themes the market is responding to, and only layer in conversion data after we’ve found the real winners.In This Episode:- Why you should stop pausing “underperforming” ads- Case study: analyzing active ads differently- How spending shifts affect performance across channels- Using ad spend instead of conversions to find winning ads- Real-life example of using spend to analyze ads- CPA and conversion data challengesMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode On Why Meta Is The Best Ad Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRnglXjlwMo Partner With Our Meta Ads Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -
Create ads that convert every time with Motion’s AI tagging. Get 10% off the first three months of Motion using code TRAFFIC10 at checkout: https://motionapp.comAre you still treating organic and paid content as separate? It’s time to reconsider! Reza Khadjavi, CEO of Motion, joins us today to break down the key creative trends for 2026. We talk about the importance of "psychological kill shots" (or killer hooks) and how to use them to craft content that not only stops the scroll but drives conversions.Reza explains how understanding your audience’s organic consumption patterns can guide your paid creative approach for maximum impact. We also discuss the massive shift in creative strategy that’s reshaping how we create ads. From the "effort signal" to the visual diversity needed to avoid creative fatigue, we explore practical tips for maximizing engagement.Plus, Reza shares valuable data from Motion’s recent creative trends event and how creative testing can be more than just tweaking a few visual elements. Join us for a fresh perspective on how to leverage AI tools and creative iteration to push your campaigns to the next level.In This Episode:- Motion's record-breaking virtual event on creative trends- The collision of organic and paid media- Mastering hooks: psychological kill shots that drive engagement- How to create hundreds of ads from a single messaging angle- Why creative strategists need business acumen- Determining good creatives and visual formats for ads- Using Motion for creative inspiration and testing- Upcoming exclusive Motion bootcamp- How to connect with Reza KhadjaviMentioned in the Episode:Test Motion AI Tagging: https://motionapp.com/releases/introducing-ai-tagging?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=introducing-ai-taggingBook a Demo with Motion: https://motionapp.com/book-a-demo?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=book-a-demoWatch Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromedaWatch the Episode on YouTube: https://perpetualtraffic.com/youtube Motion’s 2026 Creative Trends Event: https://motionapp.com/2026-ad-creative-trends-live-lightning-round-motionGruns Superfoods Meta Ads Library:
Are you drowning your leads with follow-up after follow-up? It’s a mistake many service-based businesses make, thinking more is better. But in reality, too much follow-up could be killing your sales instead of helping them.In today’s episode, we dive into a common problem many health and wellness businesses face: low conversion rates after generating quality leads. Lauren shares an in-depth example from one of her clients who was generating tons of leads but only achieving a 5% booking rate. We explore why this happens and how you can fix it. From the crucial need for accurate data tracking to the importance of defining a "qualified lead," we outline the tweaks to your sales funnel that will boost lead conversions and significantly reduce your marketing spend.In This Episode:- Case study of high leads and low conversion rates- Sample lead qualification and conversion framework- Estimating the value of opt-ins- The correct sequence of contacting leads- Episode wrap-up and call-to-actionListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo  Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:We’re opening up sponsorship spots for Q1 and Q2! Ads Spothttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualWe’re opening up sponsorship spots for Q1 and Q2! Ads Spot
Stop obsessing over new audiences and creative tests in Meta ads. We’ve got something better! Tier 11’s John Moran is back to share his latest breakthrough: the Sticky Pixel strategy, the secret to maximising your ROAS in every campaign.Through real-world examples in highly competitive spaces, John reveals how creative diversification and understanding Meta's Andromeda update unlock massive cost reductions. His team has managed to acquire new customers for less than the cost of a click, something that would be nearly impossible if you used traditional Google Ads. We explore the real power of Meta’s new audience-building system and how it keeps your pixel "sticky" to past users while optimizing ad spend. This isn't just about theory; it’s a strategy backed by data and results. Join us now to discover how you can tweak your current campaigns to reduce cost-per-acquisition and increase your ad performance.In This Episode:- What is the Sticky Pixel Strategy?- Case study: application of the Sticky Pixel Strategy- Limitations of messaging testing in driving results- Results from broad targeting in TRT campaigns- Overcoming objections with targeted messaging- Using the feeder strategy in Meta ads- Final takeaways on Meta ads spend and strategyMentioned in the Episode:Partner With Tier 11’s Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Tier 11 nCAC: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Creative Diversification Package: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Listen to Previous Ad Lab Live Sessions: tiereleven.com/youtube Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - a...
Stop using AI like Google for market research. Here is an easy, done-for-you marketing research prompt to help you draft Meta ads that convert: https://www.tiereleven.com/promptAre you still guessing what your market wants and calling it “creative testing”? That’s the fastest way to burn your budget in 2026. If your ads aren’t resonating, it’s probably not the algorithm. It’s your research. Most marketers skip the hardest part and wonder why creative diversification never works.In this episode, Cole Turner from Tier 11 breaks down a smarter way to do market research using AI. We walk you through a live demo showing how a multi-step prompting process compresses weeks of manual research into minutes. The real unlock isn’t the tool; it’s how you structure prompts to extract real voice-of-customer data, emotional triggers, and problem-aware insights that actually drive clicks, leads, and sales.We wrap by showing how to turn that research into ads, scripts, and landing pages that don’t sound like AI fluff. You’ll hear exactly how we use this internally before launching Meta campaigns, and why “garbage in, garbage out” is an accurate statement.In This Episode:- Why creative research still matters- ChatGPT market research framework- Turning research output into ads- When multiple ChatGPT prompts are necessary- How to access and use the market research prompt- Final advice on AI promptingMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode With Cole Turner: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-747-the-1-mistake-thats-secretly-killing-your-meta-andromeda-ads-with-cole-turner/Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Cole Turner:- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleturner98Connect with Ralph Burns: - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/- Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:-...
The Meta platform continues to evolve, leaving marketers with mixed feelings. While some fear the loss of control, others are already seeing extraordinary results. Today, we revisit a lab live session we had on Meta’s new Advantage+ sales system and share a game-changing creative strategy you’ll want to try.We’re hosting John Moran, who has spent over $1 million testing Meta's updates in real time. We discuss the shift from traditional targeting to AI-driven strategies in Meta’s Advantage+ campaigns. John reveals how advertisers are now at the mercy of the algorithm, with little control over exclusions or targeting. However, we’ll also show you how to fight back with custom event cAPI imports, a strategy that’s helping us regain some of the control Meta has taken away. Plus, we break down the shifts in creative testing, campaign structures, and customer targeting to keep you ahead of the curve.In This Episode:- Advantage+ campaigns vs. manual setup- Results from testing Meta’s algorithmic shift- How is Advantage+ different from PMax?- Testing Advantage+ for new customer acquisition- Merging Advantage+ with cAPI imports- Custom event cAPI imports explained- Step-by-step process of setting up Advantage+ campaigns- Inclusions and exclusions with the cAPI strategy- Regaining control with new creative strategiesMentioned in the Episode:Episode 691: The MAJOR Meta Advantage+ Changes You Must Know: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-691-the-major-meta-advantage-changes-you-must-know/ Meta Advantage + Breaking News! | Tier 11 Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-nEIymAkw Get Your nCAC Calculator Now! https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - a...
Are you convinced your SEO is outperforming paid ads and wondering why you’re still spending six figures on Meta and Google? That assumption might be one of the worst mistakes holding your growth back. We see it all the time: brands looking at last-click data, celebrating “free” organic revenue, and completely missing what’s actually driving demand.In today’s episode, Tier 11’s John Moran breaks down a real client example showing why channel-vs-channel thinking is broken. We unpack how Meta creative diversification fuels branded search, why organic conversions are often downstream of paid traffic, and how Google Search Console exposes real brand lift. We also dispel the impression share myth, explain why doubling spend rarely doubles results, and show how feeder strategies inside Meta Andromeda let you sell multiple products on command. You’ll understand how to read organic data correctly, test hook rates without risking massive budgets, and use feeder campaigns to unlock scalable growth across product lines.In This Episode:- Should you spend more on SEO or paid ads?- Results from organic brand search - Breaking the impression share myth- The feeder strategy explained- Testing the feeder strategy on multiple products - How to test hook rates safely- Hook rates for videos versus statics Do you need help to scale your Meta ads in 2026?Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - a...
As we gear up for the new year, we step back and look at the four Perpetual Traffic episodes you listened to the most in the past year and what they reveal about where digital marketing is actually headed. The selected episodes explain why AI-powered customer conversations are being underused and how Advantage+ quietly removed real targeting control.We also break down why most attribution data is misleading, even with CAPI, and what Meta’s massive AI investments mean for marketers and small businesses moving forward. Each episode highlights a different failure point we see inside ad accounts every day: wasted spend, false confidence in platform data, and missed opportunities to turn engagement into revenue.If you want to understand what really worked in 2025 and what will matter most going into 2026, this episode ties it all together.In This Episode:- Episode #4: Using AI to convert customer conversations- Episode #3: Advantage+ and loss of targeting control- Episode #2: CAPI vs attribution with Tier 11’s Data Suite- Episode #1: DeepSeek and the future of advertising- Final thoughts and episode wrap-upFeatured Episodes:DeepSeek Explained: What Marketers Need to Know: https://youtu.be/Ai9fJx41cK0Why Your Marketing Tracking Sucks (Even If You Think It Doesn’t) and How to Fix It: https://youtu.be/SxUaKkz-5OkHow Meta Ads Are Changing Forever: Advantage+ & cAPI Subterfuge Revealed: https://youtu.be/V4vAn65Y6nIHow Meta Ads Manager Is Lying to You & What You Can Do About It: https://youtu.be/kZFiQezrv00Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Cameron Campbell: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-campbell-b5070759/Connect with John Moran: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - a...
In this final part of our four-part series on why Meta remains the top platform for scaling in 2026, we continue analysing the evolution of Meta’s advertising engine. From the days of custom audience uploads in 2012 to the impact of the 2016 election and the fallout from the Cambridge Analytica scandal, these milestones have shaped the platform’s current landscape.We also explore how the iOS 14 update and the rise of TikTok have pushed Meta to adapt and innovate in ways that make 2026 the best time to advertise on the platform. Central to these innovations is the Andromeda algorithm and creative diversification, which are set to revolutionize your advertising strategy.You’ll discover how you can leverage these advancements to refine your marketing strategy, understand what the Andromeda update means for your campaigns, and why the future of advertising on Meta has never been more promising.In This Episode:- Why creative is now at the core of Meta ads- Cambridge Analytica scandal and the 2016 elections- Privacy issues and ad bans after Cambridge Analytica- Navigating iOS 14's App Tracking Transparency (ATT) prompt- The rise of TikTok and short-form content- Andromeda update and its impact on marketingMentioned in the Episode:Partner With Tier 11’s Digital Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/applyHow Facebook Won Trump The Presidency In 2006: https://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebook-won-trump-election-not-just-fake-news/Brad Parscale Interview on 60 Minutes: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parscale-tv-news-thought-i-was-a-joke/Learn More About Creative Diversification: https://www.tiereleven.com/cdThe Cambridge Analytica Scandal: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6073073/Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - a...
Do you still consider Meta a targeting platform? If so, that mindset is probably costing you scale, efficiency, and confidence in your numbers. We see too many marketers clinging to old playbooks, such as hyper-specific audiences, exclusions, and lookalikes, without realizing the platform has fundamentally changed. In this episode, we continue our discussion on the evolution of Meta advertising, from the early days of right-hand rail ads and insane third-party data to what’s happening right now. We break down why targeting used to do the heavy lifting, why that era is over, and how AI-driven delivery flipped the model on its head. If you’re running ads or managing clients who are, this series on Meta’s history and current strategies will recalibrate how you think about Meta before launching your 2026 marketing plan.In This Episode:- Early Facebook monetization and newsfeed ads- Facebook Beacon and other early failures- The birth of Facebook’s ad engine- Facebook’s IPO and Instagram acquisition- AlexNet and the foundation of AI ads- When targeting started ruling Meta ads- Creative replaces targetingMentioned in the Episode:Facebook’s Failed Beacon Project: https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facebook-shuts-down-beacon-marketing-tool-1.832698 Partner With Tier 11's Digital Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this
We continue our discussion on why Meta is still the most powerful ad platform and what to expect in the coming year. We break down how Facebook figured out monetization, from early Microsoft deals and disastrous missteps like Beacon to right-hand rail ads and the moment ads entered the newsfeed.We’ll walk you through the desktop era, the transition to mobile, and why Meta’s make-or-break moment before its IPO changed everything about how ads work today. Plus, we connect the dots to what’s happening right now with the Andromeda update and the increasing need for creative diversification.In This Episode:- Why Meta’s global reach matters- Meta’s early advertising mistakes- Facebook’s Beacon backlash explained- The right-hand rail ads era- Mobile ads turning point- Why Andromeda update changes everythingMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode on Why Meta is The Best Ad Platform: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-meta-is-the-best-ad-platform-on-the-planet-in-2026-part-1/id1022441491?i=1000741985274Acquired Podcast’s Episode on Meta: https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/metaPerpetual Traffic YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1Facebook’s Failed Beacon Project: https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facebook-shuts-down-beacon-marketing-tool-1.832698Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -
Meta’s global reach and heavy AI investments give it an undeniable edge over other digital marketing platforms. In today’s episode, we are exploring how Meta’s ongoing innovations will reshape advertising in 2026 and what this means for your business or agency.Lauren shares her firsthand experience testifying at a House subcommittee about how Meta’s AI tools are helping small businesses scale. We unpack why Meta's capabilities (like Andromeda) are game-changers for businesses that overcome AI fears and leverage Meta’s creative diversification.Plus, we look at real-world examples of how AI is amplifying business growth, and how Meta’s ecosystem can supercharge marketing strategies in ways other platforms simply can’t match.Join the conversation now if you want to stay ahead of the curve in 2026.In This Episode:- Lauren's AI testimony at a House subcommittee- Fear of AI replacing jobs vs. AI as a growth opportunity- The rising need for human interactions- Meta’s global influence on internet users- Why Meta is the best ad platform- Meta’s investment in AI and its implications for 2026- Statistics on Meta’s usage and revenue growthMentioned in the Episode:Global Internet Users: https://www.statista.com/statistics/273018/number-of-internet-users-worldwide/Facebook Usage Statistics: https://www.demandsage.com/facebook-statistics/Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromedaLauren's instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSFw2WvEYzi/?hl=enListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram -
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Josh Garris

Beyond a podcast, it's a marketing masterclass that transformed my career & keeps redefining my approach. Ralph, Kasim & Molly, along with A-list guests, deliver cutting-edge strategies & actionable insights for everyone: freelancers, agencies, CEOs & more. Every episode explodes with knowledge bombs, making it THE marketing podcast (trust me, I listen to them all!). Thanks for opening doors & igniting growth. Can't wait for more marketing magic! #Perpetualtraffic (PS I’d love to go to T&C!)

Dec 21st
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Michael Jensen

here

Sep 10th
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Linus Lim

What happened to this podcast? I have been listening since 2017 and the amount of promotions to value recently is appalling!

Apr 24th
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Skyler Moon🌙

LMAO 🤣

Jan 21st
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little king

I like this and I'll liason more.

Jan 19th
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Fotocatcher

Found this by listening to James Schramko. His info is mostly above my pay grade (my goals ate only 10k a month 😂). But using FB ads is huge for me and I love the recent conversation Molly had with James about the subject. It proves exactly what I had been thinking and why my most recent ads were simply promotion of posts that were already popular on their own. Going to be a faithful follower on here I'm sure!

Feb 28th
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Freddie Garay

amazing!

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Prabhjot Singh

glad i heard this episode 😍

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Kenneth Dylan Lam

nicccceee!

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Marin Zlatarić

Great insight

Jun 27th
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