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Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.

Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.

If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.

This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.

From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.

Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com

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We continue our discussion on why Meta is still the most powerful ad platform and what to expect in the coming year. We break down how Facebook figured out monetization, from early Microsoft deals and disastrous missteps like Beacon to right-hand rail ads and the moment ads entered the newsfeed.We’ll walk you through the desktop era, the transition to mobile, and why Meta’s make-or-break moment before its IPO changed everything about how ads work today. Plus, we connect the dots to what’s happening right now with the Andromeda update and the increasing need for creative diversification.In This Episode:- Why Meta’s global reach matters- Meta’s early advertising mistakes- Facebook’s Beacon backlash explained- The right-hand rail ads era- Mobile ads turning point- Why Andromeda update changes everythingMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode on Why Meta is The Best Ad Platform: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-meta-is-the-best-ad-platform-on-the-planet-in-2026-part-1/id1022441491?i=1000741985274Acquired Podcast’s Episode on Meta: https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/metaPerpetual Traffic YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1Facebook’s Failed Beacon Project: https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facebook-shuts-down-beacon-marketing-tool-1.832698Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -
Meta’s global reach and heavy AI investments give it an undeniable edge over other digital marketing platforms. In today’s episode, we are exploring how Meta’s ongoing innovations will reshape advertising in 2026 and what this means for your business or agency.Lauren shares her firsthand experience testifying at a House subcommittee about how Meta’s AI tools are helping small businesses scale. We unpack why Meta's capabilities (like Andromeda) are game-changers for businesses that overcome AI fears and leverage Meta’s creative diversification.Plus, we look at real-world examples of how AI is amplifying business growth, and how Meta’s ecosystem can supercharge marketing strategies in ways other platforms simply can’t match.Join the conversation now if you want to stay ahead of the curve in 2026.In This Episode:- Lauren's AI testimony at a House subcommittee- Fear of AI replacing jobs vs. AI as a growth opportunity- The rising need for human interactions- Meta’s global influence on internet users- Why Meta is the best ad platform- Meta’s investment in AI and its implications for 2026- Statistics on Meta’s usage and revenue growthMentioned in the Episode:Global Internet Users: https://www.statista.com/statistics/273018/number-of-internet-users-worldwide/Facebook Usage Statistics: https://www.demandsage.com/facebook-statistics/Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromedaLauren's instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSFw2WvEYzi/?hl=enListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram -
Set up your business for success with our Creative Diversification Package. You’ll get 30+ fresh creatives monthly in 10 high-converting formats plus free access to media buying and Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://tiereleven.com/cd Are you ready for 2026? Many businesses are focusing on the wrong things right now, but setting specific, measurable goals today could set you up for massive growth next year. In this episode, we share the importance of goal-setting and how it should be the top priority as you plan for your company’s future.We explore how most businesses fail to reach their potential because they lack clear, transparent goals, especially at the leadership level. And we examine real-world examples of businesses that didn’t set measurable objectives and discuss how companies can reverse-engineer their success by breaking down their annual goals into smaller, actionable pieces.We also give you the blueprint to ensure your 2026 is a massive success. Whether you're in charge of a marketing department or running a multi-million-dollar business, we challenge you to define exactly what you want to achieve and the steps to get there.In This Episode:- Why setting SMART goals is critical - Setting transparent, company-wide goals- Breaking down annual goals into actionable steps- Determining the resources needed to achieve goals- How to involve your team in goal setting - Real-world example from Disney on setting goals- Are you setting yourself up for success in 2026?Mentioned in the Episode:Tier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncacJFK’s SMART Goals: https://biggsuccess.com/2009/07/20/how-to-set-goals-like-john-kennedy/  RØDE PSA1+ Professional Studio Arm: https://amzn.to/3Y6kSsKRode Dynamic Podmic: https://amzn.to/4rAPWOY Shure Dynamic Podmic: https://amzn.to/3Ks4fVu Sony ZV-1F Vlog Camera: https://amzn.to/44O1MeG Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn -
Meta's new Andromeda retrieval engine demands REAL creative diversity. Get Tier 11’s Creative Diversification Package and access Media Buying + Data Suite for FREE:https://tiereleven.com/cd Is Meta forcing all your ad spend into one product, regardless of what you actually want to scale? What if the very thing limiting your business isn’t your ads or your offer but the algorithm you’ve been unintentionally training?In this ad lab session, John Moran breaks down how we rebuilt a campaign architecture using a Meta version of the “feeder strategy” and unlocked the ability to steer Andromeda rather than be steamrolled by it. We share how we took a business stuck with 80% of its conversions tied to a single SKU and created a system that grows multiple products profitably, on demand.If you’ve ever wrestled with product concentration, SKU imbalance, or runaway algorithm bias, this episode is your roadmap out. We cover the data, the levers, the mistakes, and the surprising benefits we didn’t see coming.  In This Episode:- Applying Google’s feeder strategy to Andromeda- Case study: training Meta to sell more products- CTR and CPC change after restructure- All clicks versus link clicks- The story-first creative advantage- Real results from testing the feeder strategy- Risk, scaling, and product diversification- How the strategy impacts company valuation- Final insights and episode wrap-upMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode on Google’s Feeder Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xndq5dyX5sU  Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect...
Do you ever feel like your marketing messages aren’t landing? What if the real issue isn’t the message itself, but how you’re communicating it? In today’s episode, we explore the art of communication with Charles Duhigg, the New York Times bestselling author of The Power of Habit and Super Communicators. Charles shares how understanding different types of conversations can help you connect with your audience, build trust, and make your marketing more effective. We touch on how this concept applies to modern marketing strategies, such as non-salesy Meta ads that subtly invite engagement rather than pushing a direct call to action. We’ll also share tactics you can start using immediately, whether you're running campaigns or navigating family holiday dynamics. Tune in to take your communication and marketing skills up a notch. In This Episode:- The power of super communication - Practical vs. emotional conversations- Turning surface-level questions into deep conversations- Listening and proving you're paying attention- Small courtesies like “please” and “thank you” have a huge impact- Communication rules across generations & online sarcasm - Connecting emotionally through Meta ads- How to connect with Charles DuhiggMentioned in the Episode:Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection: https://amzn.to/3Xj0ioW  The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business: https://amzn.to/4adpO6o   Previous Episode with Charles: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-609-unlock-the-secrets-of-connection-3-steps-to-supercommunication-with-charles-duhigg/  Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Charles Duhigg:Website: https://charlesduhigg.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesduhigg/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charlesduhigg/ Connect with
It’s time to draw your 2026 marketing plan, and we want to help you maximize profits with Meta ads. We’re offering you 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11’s Data Suite before the year ends.Claim your Creative Diversification Package now at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Are you trying to squeeze every last bit out of Meta, Google, and TikTok but still missing a piece of the growth puzzle? What if one of the most powerful performance channels is hiding in plain sight on your TV? That’s exactly the concept we dig into today as we explore the opportunities inside connected TV and why it’s becoming a must-have in every marketer’s media mix.We’re joined by Vibhor Kapoor, Chief Business Officer at NextRoll, to unpack how CTV has evolved from a “big brand awareness play” into a precision-targeted, full-funnel performance channel. We get into CPM shifts, attribution clarity, identity graphs, retargeting flows, and the wild amount of audience-level data available inside modern streaming platforms. Plus, we talk about how repurposed social creatives, not $200K production shoots, are already driving 2–3X stronger ROAS for brands and B2B companies. As you build your 2026 plan, this conversation will redefine multi-channel advertising and where the smartest budget shifts are happening.  In This Episode:- What NextRoll does now: the evolution- How NextRoll handles attribution on social platforms- Why AI-driven budget optimization is necessary- What is CTV and why is it exploding?- CPM shifts in CTV targeting - Targeting and retargeting CTV ads across devices - Real-world CTV results- What marketers must know for 2026Mentioned in the Episode:AdRoll / NextRoll CTV case studies Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Vibhor Kapoor:Website: https://www.adroll.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vibhor Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 -
As the BFCM dust settles, it’s time to plan for Q4 and 2026. We’re offering you 30 monthly deliverables, 10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11’s data suite to help you maximize profits with Meta ads.Claim your Creative Diversification Package at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Record Black Friday sales don’t mean anything if you shredded your margins to get there. In this episode, we reveal the hidden metrics behind a profitable BFCM, from average order value segmentation to subscription velocity and discount impact. Lauren shares the three buyer groups you must analyze to understand whether you actually grew or silently lost money. You’ll also learn what to do right now to turn BFCM buyers into profitable repeat customers in Q4 and beyond.  In This Episode:- Black Friday success myths- How to measure Black Friday success- Creating a profitable seasonal offer- Segmenting and retargeting your BFCM buyers- Selling to Costco vs. Walmart buyers- Preparing offers for Q4 and 2026 Mentioned in the Episode:Marketing Performance Indicators Checklist: https://perpetualtraffic.com/mpi/ Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo  Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetuala...
With the latest GEM and Andromeda updates, creative diversification is the only way to crack Meta's algorithm. We’re offering you 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11’s data suite to help you stay ahead.Get our exclusive Creative Diversification Package at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd The days of throwing up a simple product photo to your Meta ads and hoping for conversions are long gone. If you’re not diversifying your creative strategy, your results will suffer. We continue our discussion with Andrew Foxwell on the latest Meta GEM update and its implications for ads.Andrew shares why evolving your creative strategy is the only way to thrive in this new era of advertising on Meta. We’ll also guide you on how to rethink your creative process and share tactics that are driving incredible results for our clients.In This Episode:- The importance of creative diversification - What makes a successful creative strategy today- How to implement creative diversification- Real-world results from creative diversification- How to hire creative strategists- Get in touch with Andrew FoxwellMentioned In The Episode:Previous Episodes on Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda  Foxwell Digital courses and GPT at https://www.foxwelldigital.com/   Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Andrew Foxwell:Website: Foxwellfounders.com Email: andrew@foxwelldigital.comConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram -
Creative diversification is now the primary lever that Meta is rewarding. You need at least 30+ fresh concepts per month to unlock the algorithm's full potential. Our Creative Diversification Package will give you that and more. Check out the offer at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Meta’s latest update will fundamentally change how your ads are ranked, served, and scaled. However, most advertisers don’t even know it’s already live. This week, I’m joined by Andrew Foxwell, one of the sharpest Meta strategists in the game.Andrew breaks down Meta’s new GEM model, the “central brain” now powering ad delivery across Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. We talk about cross-platform signals, why organic content matters again, and how GEM connects directly to Andromeda’s creative ranking system. We look at workflows and what your team should change immediately to stay ahead of this shift.In This Episode:- How GEM impacts Meta ads performance- The difference between GEM and other Meta updates- How advertisers can train GEM effectively- GEM’s impact on the role of organic content- What makes a “good ad” now- The necessary mindset shift for advertisersListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Andrew Foxwell:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-foxwell-2a533b7 Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo  Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:a...
Creative diversity is a must to crack Meta's new Andromeda algorithm and dominate your market. We’re offering you 30 monthly deliverables, 10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11’s data suite to help you stay ahead.Get our exclusive Creative Diversification Package at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Are you really getting the most out of your ad spend? What if you could drastically reduce your ad budget while seeing better returns? Well, in today’s episode, I’m walking through a real SaaS case study where we helped a company grow from $1,300 to $393,000 in monthly revenue.I break down the exact steps we took to transform this business. From the ground up, we overhauled their ad strategy, implemented creative diversification, and scaled back ad spend to improve their media efficiency ratio (MER). I’ll show you how we used both Meta and Google Ads to create an efficient, low-cost acquisition funnel, driving massive results without constantly increasing spend. If you’re ready to stop just throwing money at ads and start getting real results with less, this is a must-watch. In This Episode:- Case study: scaling from $1,300 to $393K/month- Executing the nCAC reducer framework- Implementing the creative strategy framework- Results from Meta, Google, and Data SuiteMentioned in the Episode:Previous episodes on Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo  Consult Mongoose Media -
John Moran joins us this week as we unpack how the Andromeda model is reshaping media buying, why creative diversification is no longer optional, and how three rapid rounds of creative iterations dropped CPA from $44 to $25 in just 10 days. We walk you through the exact playbook we used to achieve these results. If you’ve ever paused an ad because it “spent too much,” or you’re still clinging to last-click thinking, John’s proven strategy will change how you build campaigns. We break down what’s working right now and why creative is the new lever that drives everything else in Meta ads. In This Episode:- Introduction: Meta’s creative diversification strategy- Case study: Fixing tracking with first-click & CAPI- Ad performance after creative iterations- How Meta optimizes ad delivery & CPA- Why understanding Meta’s attribution model is critical- Results, reflections, and conclusionListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo  Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualwww.AdRoll.com/PT
Meta's Andromeda update has disrupted digital marketing for good. But, we've cracked the code! We’re offering you 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11’s data suite to help you stay ahead.Get our exclusive Creative Diversification Package at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd AI is not a buzzword. It is not a passing trend. It’s the future of marketing. In this episode, we explore why big tech companies are pouring billions into artificial intelligence and how it’s already transforming the way we run ads, create content, and optimize our campaigns. We break down some mind-blowing stats, including Google’s projected $93 billion investment in AI this year and Meta’s massive $81 billion spend. We discuss the changes we’ve already seen in our own campaigns, from the Meta Andromeda update to creative diversification, which is making ad optimization faster, more efficient, and far more productive. If you’re not using AI to enhance your marketing efforts, now’s the time to start, or risk falling behind. We challenge you to think about one task in your marketing that you really don’t want to do anymore, and then find an AI tool to make that task faster, cheaper, and more efficient. In This Episode:- The massive AI investments from big tech companies- Amazon’s investment and earnings from AWS- Applying AI innovation to marketing- Simple steps to start using AI todayMentioned in the Episode:Previous episodes on Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -
While other advertisers scramble to figure out Meta's Andromeda update, we've cracked the code! Our Creative Diversification Package will increase your ads’ reach by 50%+ and save you over $330k on agency fees.Join the winning 0.01% businesses now at:  https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Do you feel overwhelmed by the speed of AI advancements? The tech world is evolving rapidly, making it a challenge to keep up, especially with giants like Meta and Google leading the charge. AI is the future of digital marketing, and if you’re not adapting, you’re falling behind.In this episode, we discuss the massive shift happening in marketing, fueled by AI. We break down how Silicon Valley’s biggest players are investing billions into AI and how that’s impacting everything from content creation to data analysis. With new tools emerging every day, we talk about how creative diversification can boost your ad performance while giving you a competitive edge in the market. Tune in and let’s make sure you’re ready for the AI-powered future of marketing.In This Episode:- Why AI’s bubble is now and how to keep up- How AI is powering marketing innovation- Big tech and governments’ heavy investments in AI - Presentation of big tech’s AI investments- Wrap up and key takeawaysMentioned in the Episode:Previous episodes on Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda The Acquired Podcast: https://www.acquired.fm/  Investors’ Business Daily Analysis on AI: https://www.investors.com/news/technology/ai-stocks-microsoft-apple-google-amazon-meta-capital-spending/   Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram
Stop losing money on ads! Grab your copy of Tier 11’s FREE calculator with all the actors and formulas you need to determine the most important metric in your marketing efforts.Download Your nCAC Calculator Now: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Joining us today is Cole Turner, Growth Strategist at Tier 11. We break down how incorrect nCAC (New Customer Acquisition Cost) calculations can make you believe you're profitable when you’re actually hemorrhaging cash. Cole walks us through a real-world example of a beauty brand, showing how fixing their nCAC revealed a massive discrepancy that changed their entire business strategy. We also discuss how adjusting your ad spend to align with real business costs can actually help you scale. If you're spending on ads without understanding your real margins, you could be scaling in the wrong direction. Join the conversation now and get your business metrics in order before your next big marketing push.In This Episode:- What nCAC is and why it matters- Case study: nCAC error in a beauty brand’s strategy- Common mistakes in nCAC calculations- How to calculate nCAC accurately- How overheads factor into nCAC on scale- Why ad spend efficiency isn’t enough- The importance of knowing your numbersUnlock the Ultimate Marketing Advantage With Our Creative Diversification Package! Get 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, and access to the Tier 11 data suite. Available exclusively for 11 lucky businesses at: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect With Cole Turner:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleturner98 Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram -
Unlock the ultimate marketing advantage with Tier 11's Creative Diversification Package! Get 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, and access to the Tier 11 data suite. Available exclusively for 11 lucky businesses at: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Are media buyers becoming obsolete? With Meta’s Andromeda update and AI automating campaign optimization, most marketers are still stuck tweaking ads while missing the real levers that drive growth. If you’re still relying on Ads Manager, you’re already behind! In this episode, we break down why media buying alone won’t cut it anymore. We discuss how AI is handling 80% of the heavy lifting and why your focus needs to shift to everything that happens after the click. From landing page congruency to email triage, customer reactivation, and how data flow impacts optimization, we share what agencies and brands must do to stay profitable. If you’re managing campaigns or scaling a business, this one’s for you!In This Episode:- Media buying and “after the click” opportunity- Funnels, offers, and landing page congruency - Redefining leads, opt-ins, and MQLs- Disqualifying bad leads and data hygiene - The role of growth strategist vs. media buyers- Why small marketing agencies are struggling- Shiny object syndrome vs. real business growth- Rethinking the customer journey to boost salesMentioned in the Episode: Andromeda Episodes: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=john+moran Episode 744: The Pros and Cons of Meta’s New Advantage+ Creative Image Generator Tool: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-744-the-pros-and-cons-of-metas-new-advantage-creative-image-generator-tool/ Episode 743: Stop Pausing Winning Ads! Andromeda Ad Strategy That Changes Everything: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-743-stop-pausing-winning-ads-andromeda-ad-strategy-that-changes-everything/ Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf  Marketing Performance Indicators Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/mpi Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube:
Have you ever been in a negotiation and felt like you were just begging to close the deal? Oren Klaff, the master of persuasion and author of Pitch Anything, is back to show us how to take control of high-stakes business conversations. We talk about the power of "status" in negotiations and how framing your offer makes all the difference. Oren breaks down the distinction between physical and cognitive status and how to leverage both to your advantage, all while keeping your confidence high and ego in check.We also discuss how to create real desire in your prospects and clients, as well as how to handle those moments when you're negotiating from a lower status. If you’re looking to up your negotiation game, Oren has some proven persuasion strategies you won’t want to miss.In This Episode:- The power of saying the quiet part out loud- How physical status influences negotiation outcomes- The danger of offering too many choices in sales- How to negotiate deals when power shifts- Establishing genuine desire in your prospects- Negotiating with high-level decision-makers- Hot cognition vs cold cognition in persuasion- Determining a prospect’s viability of closing a deal- Final thoughts and actionable takeawaysListen to the Previous Episode with Oren Klaff: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-732-flip-the-script-a-masterclass-on-pitching-anything-with-oren-klaff/ Buy Oren Klaff’s Books:Pitch Anything: https://a.co/d/fRAqAby  Flip The Script: https://a.co/d/hTcp9lP Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Oren Klaff: Website - orenklaff.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/orenklaff/ Newsletter- https://pitchanything.com/ Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn -
Do you really control your ads anymore or just think you do? The more Meta’s AI promises to optimize your performance, the more it quietly reshapes your creative and brand. Today, Lauren and I break down the hidden trade-offs behind Meta’s Advantage+ Creative Image Generator and why letting AI “help” your campaigns might not mean what you think. Lauren shares her recent webinar launch results using Meta’s new creative tools and what happened when AI started taking creative liberties with her brand visuals and placements. From off-brand images to format mismatches, we unpack how AI-driven automation can drive conversions while quietly eroding creative control. In this episode:- Pros and cons of Advantage+ creative image generator- The illusion of control in Meta AI’s performance- Why future ad networks may remove control completely- The $30 lead that actually converted better-  Quality vs. quantity in lead generation- How creative still drives targeting in AndromedaResources Mentioned In The Episode:Previous Episode on Advantage+ Creative Image Generator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXRkwLlTb0I Tier 11 Data Suite – https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite    Creative Diversification Playbook, Practitioners' Guide From Meta: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf  Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Watch the Episode on YouTube: perpetualtraffic.com/youtube Listen to this episode on your favorite podcast channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: perpetualtraffic.com/youtube We appreciate your support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 -
Do you still believe in “cut the losers and let the winners run”? After seeing what Meta’s Andromeda update is doing under the hood, that old-school strategy might be costing you real growth. In this Ad Lab session, John Moran and I break down how Andromeda completely rewrites the rules of campaign optimization and why CPA alone no longer tells the whole story. We analyse live account data where spend doubled, CPAs held steady, and results skyrocketed, all because we stopped judging ads by last-click performance. Using Tier 11’s Data Suite, we uncovered how creative sequencing, user journey mapping, and first-click CAPI imports reveal what’s driving conversions inside Meta’s new ecosystem. This episode unpacks what Andromeda really means for your campaigns and how to play Meta’s game the way Meta does.In this episode:- Client case study on Andromeda's sequencing impact- Ad performance analysis: UGC vs. non-UGC ad trends- Why CPA is a poor performance judge - Scaling ad spend and performance metrics- UGC ads and their effectiveness- Creative targeting and expanding market reach- Conclusion and call to actionResources Mentioned In The Episode:Tier 11 Data Suite – https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite    Meta Engineering Blog Article on Andromeda – https://engineering.fb.com/2024/12/02/production-engineering/meta-andromeda-advantage-automation-next-gen-personalized-ads-retrieval-engine/  Ad Lab Live Sessions – https://www.youtube.com/@Tier11/streams Buy Tier 11’s Creative Diversification Package: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to this episode on your favorite podcast channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: perpetualtraffic.com/youtube We appreciate your support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - a...
Have you ever run a Facebook ads test that completely defied logic? That’s exactly what happened to us, and it led to one of the most eye-opening conversations we’ve had about Meta’s new creative testing feature. In this episode, we explore the Meta AI tools for creative diversification.Lauren shares her real campaign results from a live test using Meta’s latest Advantage+ creative tools. We also get into the details of how Meta’s system distributes spend, why it doesn’t always follow its own rules, and what you can do to avoid wasting money while still taking advantage of Meta’s cutting-edge tools like AI-powered image generation and editing. If you’re running ads for clients or scaling your own campaigns, you’ll want to hear this one before you hit “publish” on your next creative test. We’ll tell you what works, what breaks, and how to stay ahead of Meta’s fast-moving automation. In this episode:- How Meta’s in-campaign creative testing works- Step-by-step demo of Meta’s creative testing interface- Using AI-generated ad images inside Ads Manager- Editing AI-generated images with custom prompts- Meta’s ad enhancements: translate text, music, and site links- The “Flex Media” feature and its risks for client brandsResources Mentioned In The Episode:Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda Update: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=meta Watch the Episode on YouTube: www.perpetualtraffic.com/youtube Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Watch Previous Live Ad Lab Sessions: tiereleven.com/youtube Creative Diversification Playbook, Practitioners' Guide From Meta: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf Listen to this episode on your favorite podcast channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: perpetualtraffic.com/youtube We appreciate your support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram -
Do you feel like your ad spend isn’t adding up? What if the data you’ve been relying on is actually misleading you? In this episode, we uncover the dangers of inaccurate attribution models that could be costing you thousands in missed revenue and show you a smarter way to optimize your ads.Tier 11’s John Moran breaks down how media buyers can fall into the trap of relying on third-party platforms like Triple Whale, which often misreport up to 30% of revenue. He shares real-life case studies of clients who dramatically improved their ad performance by simply questioning their attribution model and switching to more reliable tracking methods. If you use the wrong attribution model, you may end up running campaigns based on faulty data—putting your business at risk. Let’s teach you how to avoid these costly pitfalls and ensure your marketing strategy is powered by the most accurate insights available.In this episode: - Case study 1: The problem with Triple Whale tagging - Case study 2: Lowering CPA from $44 to $25 in 10 days- Practical tips for media buyers to optimize their campaigns- When should you turn off Meta ads?- Using Meta’s “Creative Fatigue” feature to optimize ads- Comparing Meta ads and Google Shopping results Resources Mentioned In The Episode:Previous Ad Lab Sessions with John Moran: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=john+moran  Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Creative Diversification Playbook, Practitioners' Guide From Meta: https://perpetualtraffic.com/creative-diversification-playbookListen to this episode on your favorite podcast channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: perpetualtraffic.com/youtube We appreciate your support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - a...
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Josh Garris

Beyond a podcast, it's a marketing masterclass that transformed my career & keeps redefining my approach. Ralph, Kasim & Molly, along with A-list guests, deliver cutting-edge strategies & actionable insights for everyone: freelancers, agencies, CEOs & more. Every episode explodes with knowledge bombs, making it THE marketing podcast (trust me, I listen to them all!). Thanks for opening doors & igniting growth. Can't wait for more marketing magic! #Perpetualtraffic (PS I’d love to go to T&C!)

Dec 21st
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Michael Jensen

here

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Linus Lim

What happened to this podcast? I have been listening since 2017 and the amount of promotions to value recently is appalling!

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Skyler Moon🌙

LMAO 🤣

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little king

I like this and I'll liason more.

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Fotocatcher

Found this by listening to James Schramko. His info is mostly above my pay grade (my goals ate only 10k a month 😂). But using FB ads is huge for me and I love the recent conversation Molly had with James about the subject. It proves exactly what I had been thinking and why my most recent ads were simply promotion of posts that were already popular on their own. Going to be a faithful follower on here I'm sure!

Feb 28th
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Freddie Garay

amazing!

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Prabhjot Singh

glad i heard this episode 😍

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Kenneth Dylan Lam

nicccceee!

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Marin Zlatarić

Great insight

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