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Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
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Stop guessing. Get the blueprint to scale: https://www.tiereleven.com/audit Are your ads working, or are the dashboards just telling you what you want to hear? Too many marketers celebrate high ROAS inside Meta or Google while revenue in Shopify tells a very different story. If your agency is “reporting well” but the business isn’t growing, something is broken.In this episode, we break down why in-app metrics are often misleading, how platforms double-count conversions, and why your CRM or store data must always be the source of truth. We also share the questions every VP of Marketing should ask their agency to force better thinking, stronger accountability, and a real growth strategy.You’ll learn how to challenge reporting, uncover hidden attribution issues, and turn agency meetings into strategic conversations instead of dashboard reviews. If you manage paid media or manage the people managing it, this one will help you evaluate performance.In This Episode:- Vanity metrics vs real revenue- Why attribution models conflict- View-through vs click attribution- Addressing tracking setup mistakes- Three questions to ask your agency- Which answers should raise red flags?- Questions for monthly and quarterly reviews- Challenging agencies to think of your money as theirs- Agencies should perform, not report wellMentioned in the Episode:Stop guessing. Get the blueprint to scale: https://www.tiereleven.com/audit Is Your Agency Performing Or Just Reporting Well?: https://youtu.be/F6iGYu7Dv4sListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/auditWe’re opening up sponsorship spots for Q1 and Q2! Apply now by visiting www.perpetualtraffic.com
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Stop guessing. Get the blueprint to scale: https://www.tiereleven.com/audit Are you getting the results you expect from your agency? Or is your marketing just vanity metrics? Too often, businesses spend thousands of dollars without understanding whether their marketing is truly driving revenue. In today’s episode, we get into why performance marketing should focus on what matters most: the impact on your bottom line.We break down the issues we’re seeing in the agency space, including a shocking example of a business spending $30-40K a month without any measurable results, all because their agency failed to focus on tracking what actually moves the needle. But it’s not just about hiring agencies but also about how to hold your team accountable.We’ll share some tips to help you recognize if your agency is really performing or just reporting numbers that look good on paper. You’ll gain a better understanding of what to look for in your agency relationships, what metrics to monitor, and how to make smarter marketing decisions. In This Episode:- Vanity metrics vs. real performance- When should you hire an agency vs. in-house contractors?- The financial cost of hiring a marketing agency- Determining the type of agency your business needs- Dealing with inaccurate agency reports- Key metrics to measure marketing performance- What should your agency’s dashboard show?Mentioned in the Episode:Stop guessing. Get the blueprint to scale: https://www.tiereleven.com/audit Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Tier 11’s Marketing Performance Indicators (MPI) Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/marketing-performance-indicators Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Are your ads “good enough” but still not getting anyone to fall in love? If your creative looks like vanilla ice cream, you’re probably forcing Meta to guess, and that’s basically running your business off a magic "8 ball."In this episode, we use ice cream flavors to explain what Meta’s real creative diversification demands. We break down why “pink shirt vs blue shirt” isn’t diversification, how the 25% (or more) difference rule actually plays out, and why you need multiple angles that feel like totally different flavors, not vanilla bean vs French vanilla.By the end of the episode, you’ll know about building a simple “Rule of Six” creative system, why contribution matters more than last-click attribution, and how to stop turning off ads that are doing the heavy lifting in the background. Give this one a listen, then go build your Baskin-Robbins ad account.In this episode:- Are you running “vanilla” ads?- Creating memorable ads that convert- Meta’s creative diversification playbook- Hook rate vs conversions- Contribution vs attribution- The rule of six for Meta ads- Why you need a real source of truthMentioned in the Episode:Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Previous Episode on Pausing Ads: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-743-stop-pausing-winning-ads-andromeda-ad-strategy-that-changes-everything/ Ice Cream Place in New Zealand: https://www.patagoniachocolates.co.nz/pages/ice-cream-flavours Previous Episode with John Moran: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=john+moran Google Search Console: https://search.google.com/search-console Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdf Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Relying solely on Google ads to drive leads is risky. Our team can help you balance Meta and Google ads to lower costs and boost conversions. Partner with our marketing experts today: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Tier 11’s Oli Liboy joins me to explore the multi-channel strategy that earned a personal injury law firm $55.2M in revenue. We discuss how Google’s shift from a traffic machine to an intent machine has changed the game for high-stakes industries. Oli shares how Meta ads, combined with Google’s intent-driven platform, work together to generate both awareness and high-quality leads even in the most competitive markets.If you’re a lawyer or marketer in this space, or just interested in the future of digital marketing, this episode is packed with valuable insights. We’ll break down strategies for scaling your paid ads without blowing your budget, optimizing your Google campaigns for intent, and creating brand awareness through Meta.In This Episode:- Oli's background and experience- The danger of relying only on Google Ads- Google Ads transformation into an "intent machine"- Balancing Meta and Google ads strategies- Why generating awareness on Meta is critical for conversions on Google - Using Google and Meta ads for personal injury cases- The importance of tracking and CRM setup- Optimal scenario for combining Meta and Google- How Google local services ads (LSAs) work- Qualifying Google ad clicks- Optimizing the Meta and Google mix for a law firm- The real results of the personal injury case studyMentioned in the Episode:Part 1 of How We Made a Personal Injury Law Firm $55.2M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_SiPLJYzkI Part 2 of How We Made a Personal Injury Law Firm $55.2M:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWrUeotDYzs Previous Episodes On The Personal Injury Law Case Study: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=personal+injury+law Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Oli Liboy:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oli-liboy Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual
The right digital marketing strategy can turn high-cost clicks into millions in revenue. We want to help your business achieve this and more!Partner with our marketing experts today: https://www.tiereleven.com/applyToday, we continue our review of a real-world personal injury law firm case study where we transformed a modest ad spend into over $184 million in settlements. We didn't just buy media; we built a strategic, multi-channel system that generated outstanding results.I’ll walk you through the specific steps we took, from installing tracking software to optimizing the site post-click. The game-changer was refining the landing pages and ad creatives, improving conversion rates, and building a cohesive Google and Meta strategy. Consequently, we achieved a significant drop in cost per signed case and a massive increase in qualified leads.If you're serious about scaling your business, whether in legal services or other services, this three-part series will help you refine your approach to paid media in 2026 and beyond.In This Episode:- Introduction and part 1 recap- Optimizing after-the-click experience- Results after optimizing landing pages- Continued optimization of Meta and Google ads- Google Ads performance in 2025- How Meta and Google work together- Final results: Scaling to $184 million in settlementsMentioned in the Episode:Watch Part 1 of How We Made a Personal Injury Law Firm $55.2M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_SiPLJYzkIDownload Tier 11’s Marketing Performance Indicators (MPI) Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/mpiTier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suiteTier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncacPrevious Episodes On The Personal Injury Law Case Study: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=personal+injury+lawListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this show
You can scale your business fast with the right digital marketing partners and strategy.Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Are you still betting your entire growth plan on Google? If you’re treating search like the “engine,” you might be building demand everywhere else and giving it zero credit.In this case study, I break down four years of work inside one of the most brutally competitive niches we serve. Personal injury law. We took a Michigan firm from messy tracking and misaligned leads to a machine that consistently optimized for the only metric that matters: signed cases. Early on, we drove a 70% drop in cost per signed case to about $1,518 and still achieved roughly a 20x ROI. I’ll walk you through the Meta and Google synergy, the tracking stack that made optimization possible, and the “signed case maximizer” framework we use to scale without drowning in junk leads. In This Episode:- Early wins: leads, CPL, and CPC improvements- The 1,500 CAC and 20x ROI math- Spending $2,900 per signed case for $55m in revenue- Case diagnosis: no avatar and conversion tracking- Prescription: installing Tier 11 Data Suite- Deploying the signed case maximizer framework- Using Google’s 90-day conversion tracking window- Installing the digital strategy velocity engine- Combining Meta and Google ads to maximize results- Impressions and leads from optimized adsMentioned in the Episode:Tier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Tier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Previous Episodes On The Personal Injury Law Case: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=personal+injury+law Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Stop settling for slow revenue growth! You can scale your business fast with the right digital marketing partners and strategy.Partner with our Meta ads experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/applyWhy do some businesses just seem to explode in revenue while others struggle to scale? It's not luck, it’s strategy. In today’s episode, we’re reviewing a premium e-commerce case study that shows exactly how we helped a $5M brand reach $32M in just two years.We’ll talk about how we tackled some of their biggest challenges, from limiting customer acquisition costs to refining their targeting and focusing on their hero products. With a premium product and a clear goal, we fine-tuned their marketing approach to deliver a 543% increase in revenue and a 503% increase in new customers.You can apply the same strategy to your own business, whether you’re in e-commerce, services, or even digital products. Tune in to learn the steps we took and how they’re planning for even bigger success in the coming years.In This Episode:- Case study: scaling revenue from $5M to $32M- Key challenges that stunted revenue growth- The steps we took to scale faster and the results- Leveraging insights from Tier 11’s Data Suite- The impact of creative diversification on Meta ads- Conclusion and the client’s growth plansMentioned in the Episode:Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdfTier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suiteMarketing Performance Indicators (MPI) Checklist: https://www.tiereleven.com/marketing-performance-indicatorsTier 11’s nCAC Calculator: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncacPrevious Episode On Why Meta Is The Best Ad Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRnglXjlwMoListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
If you’re still measuring success by direct conversions alone, you could be missing the bigger picture in your campaigns. Meta is shifting its focus, and if you're not adapting, your business will be left behind.In today’s episode, we share insights from testing with over $50 million in ad spend. You’ll hear about the importance of metrics like hook rate and hold rate, and how creative optimization is key to staying ahead. We also explain why viewing your campaigns holistically, not just through conversions, is the future of effective ad buying.Plus, you’ll gain a clear understanding of how to navigate these changes, tweak your media buying strategy, and optimize your campaigns for better customer acquisition. Join the conversation now and learn how we’re adjusting our strategy to scale ad performance and acquire customers profitably.In This Episode:- Meta’s shift from sales to leading indicators- Why video ads are now key to ad performance- Live presentation: analysing hook and hold rates- How hook rate and hold rate work together- Real-world examples of hook and hold rates testing- Why media buyers need to be growth strategists nowMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode with Motion’s CEO: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-769-the-biggest-creative-trends-in-2026-revealed-with-reza-khadjavi/Previous Episodes with John Moran: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=john+moranWatch the Episode on YouTube: https://perpetualtraffic.com/youtubeListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowIf your campaigns aren’t scaling as you'd like and CPMs keep rising, it’s time to refresh your social media marketing strategy. In today’s episode, we explain in detail why creative diversification is the key to succeeding with Meta ads in 2026 and beyond.We discuss how to break free from old, hacky methods like the Michigan Method and explain how the Meta algorithm is designed to do the heavy lifting, if you let it. We talk about the importance of running multiple, varied ads to speak to different segments of your audience and provide real examples of how this works in practice.If you want to know how to evolve your approach, increase engagement, and set up campaigns that actually scale, you won’t want to miss this one. You’ll understand why "one-size-fits-all" advertising no longer cuts it and what to do instead.In This Episode:- How Facebook ads have evolved over time- Creative diversification explained- How to create different ICPs for Meta ads- Designing the right creative angle for each audience- Looking for ad hacks vs developing a strong brand- Final thoughts on outdated advertising strategiesMentioned in the Episode:Creative Diversification Playbook: https://perpetualtraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Creative-Diversification-Playbook-Practitioner-Guidance.pdfMeta's Ad Creative Guidelines: https://web.facebook.com/business/m/small-business/creative-differentiation?_rdc=1&_rdr#Previous episode on the Michigan Method: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/scale-your-facebook-ad-campaign/Previous episode with Cole Turner: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-747-the-1-mistake-thats-secretly-killing-your-meta-andromeda-ads-with-cole-turner/Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Are you hesitant to invest in your team, fearing they might leave after you put in all that time and money? What if the real risk is in not investing, and they stay? Low-performing and uninspired. In this episode, Lauren and I chat about how investing in your team can create a powerful internal moat that attracts the right people and drives your business forward.We discuss a recent initiative at Lauren's company in which a team member took the lead to improve an internal process and created an SOP for it. It's a perfect example of why fostering initiative and empowering employees to take ownership can elevate your entire team’s performance.If you're struggling to create that type of culture, this conversation will give you ideas for reevaluating your core values to ensure your team’s alignment and ultimately build a work environment where the best talent thrives. We also explore how these ideas translate into digital marketing, leadership, and managing remote teams effectively.In This Episode:- Core values, employee initiative, & continuous learning- The risk of not investing in your team and gatekeeping- Meta's strategic investments in employee acquisition and AI- Creating an internal moat for your business- The people analyzer process, based on core values- Adapting to external challenges in digital marketing- Why radical candor and emotional intelligence are critical- Final thoughts on creating a moat and call to actionMentioned in the Episode:Gino Wickman’s book, Traction: https://a.co/d/01q1TP4OPatrick Lencioni’s book, The Ideal Team Player: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1119209595/Creating custom emojis on Slack: https://slack.com/help/articles/206870177-Add-custom-emoji-and-aliases-to-your-workspaceApply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Stop losing customer insights to privacy blockers! Make confident, data-driven marketing decisions with Tier 11’s Data Suite.Learn more and schedule a call at: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Are you flying blind with your ad data? With ad blockers, privacy laws, and tracking issues, Meta can't always give you the full picture. So how do you trust your numbers and make better decisions for your business?In today’s episode, we tackle a crucial topic for anyone managing Meta ads: how to optimize data for accurate results. Joined by Cameron Campbell, we explain the difference between Meta’s Conversion API (CAPI) and the Tier 11 Data Suite, and why relying on just in-platform metrics can lead you to make costly mistakes.We also talk about the role of first-party data and why it's the foundation for building a solid marketing strategy. We wrap up with proven strategies on improving your ad campaign's performance, understanding customer acquisition costs, and knowing when to pull the plug on underperforming campaigns.In This Episode:- What are Marketing Performance Indicators (MPIs)?- The problem with Meta's in-platform data- Comparing Meta’s CAPI with Tier 11 Data Suite- Differences between first-party and third-party data- How to measure customer acquisition costs accurately- Measuring nCAC with Tier 11 Data Suite vs. CAPI- Comparing data in Meta vs Tier 11 Data Suite’s interfaces- Understanding time lag and how it impacts your decisionsMentioned in the Episode:Get Your Marketing Performance Indicators (MPIs) Checklist Now: https://www.tiereleven.com/mpi Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Cameron Campbell:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-campbell-b5070759/ Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this show
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowAre you still pausing “winning” ads because Meta tells you the CPA is broken? In this episode, we break down the next layer of our three-part series on why turning off Meta’s conversion obsession is the smartest move you can make right now.John Moran walks us through a real case study where individual category campaigns, feeder strategy, and engagement metrics drove an 80% lift in new customers. We unpack why hook rate, CTR, and directional signals matter more than platform-reported conversions, and how Shopify and blended nCAC become the real source of truth.We also connect the dots between Meta and Google in a way most marketers completely miss. You’ll hear how improved Meta creative reduced Google spend by 20% while increasing total new customers by 37%. And if you want proof that Meta is a top-of-funnel growth engine and not an attribution tool, this episode lays it out step by step.In This Episode:- Why you should not pause winning ads- Hook rate & outbound CTR benchmarks- Example of benchmarking with nCAC- Amazon, Google, and Meta sales overlap- Case study: Meta’s impact on Google resultsMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episodes On Why You Should Not Pause Ads: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_trafficTier 11’s nCAC: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncacTier 11’s Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suiteListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Apply to Work With Tier 11: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now CPAs look awful, so you pause the ads, and then revenue drops across channels. That’s not you. That’s the new reality of Meta Andromeda and the GEM-style ecosystem where “underperformers” can be the very ads feeding your whole business.John Moran is back to help us break down why cost per result and conversion columns can completely derail your decision-making. We walk through a real example where shifting spend away from a core set of ads didn’t just hurt Meta; it dragged down Amazon, Google, and everything else. Stick around to learn how we analyze ads by spend, identify themes the market is responding to, and only layer in conversion data after we’ve found the real winners.In This Episode:- Why you should stop pausing “underperforming” ads- Case study: analyzing active ads differently- How spending shifts affect performance across channels- Using ad spend instead of conversions to find winning ads- Real-life example of using spend to analyze ads- CPA and conversion data challengesMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode On Why Meta Is The Best Ad Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRnglXjlwMo Partner With Our Meta Ads Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Create ads that convert every time with Motion’s AI tagging. Get 10% off the first three months of Motion using code TRAFFIC10 at checkout: https://motionapp.comAre you still treating organic and paid content as separate? It’s time to reconsider! Reza Khadjavi, CEO of Motion, joins us today to break down the key creative trends for 2026. We talk about the importance of "psychological kill shots" (or killer hooks) and how to use them to craft content that not only stops the scroll but drives conversions.Reza explains how understanding your audience’s organic consumption patterns can guide your paid creative approach for maximum impact. We also discuss the massive shift in creative strategy that’s reshaping how we create ads. From the "effort signal" to the visual diversity needed to avoid creative fatigue, we explore practical tips for maximizing engagement.Plus, Reza shares valuable data from Motion’s recent creative trends event and how creative testing can be more than just tweaking a few visual elements. Join us for a fresh perspective on how to leverage AI tools and creative iteration to push your campaigns to the next level.In This Episode:- Motion's record-breaking virtual event on creative trends- The collision of organic and paid media- Mastering hooks: psychological kill shots that drive engagement- How to create hundreds of ads from a single messaging angle- Why creative strategists need business acumen- Determining good creatives and visual formats for ads- Using Motion for creative inspiration and testing- Upcoming exclusive Motion bootcamp- How to connect with Reza KhadjaviMentioned in the Episode:Test Motion AI Tagging: https://motionapp.com/releases/introducing-ai-tagging?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=introducing-ai-taggingBook a Demo with Motion: https://motionapp.com/book-a-demo?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=book-a-demoWatch Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromedaWatch the Episode on YouTube: https://perpetualtraffic.com/youtube Motion’s 2026 Creative Trends Event: https://motionapp.com/2026-ad-creative-trends-live-lightning-round-motionGruns Superfoods Meta Ads Library: https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/?active_status=active&ad_type=all&country=ALL&is_targeted_country=false&media_type=all&search_type=page&source=page-transparency-widget&view_all_page_id=107585658730958Gruns Ads Landing Page: https://gruns.co/pages/first-orderListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Reza KhadjaviLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reza-khadjavi-46802918/Website: https://www.usemotion.com/Twitter (X): https://x.com/rezakhadjaviMotion on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/motion1/?originalSubdomain=caConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Are you drowning your leads with follow-up after follow-up? It’s a mistake many service-based businesses make, thinking more is better. But in reality, too much follow-up could be killing your sales instead of helping them.In today’s episode, we dive into a common problem many health and wellness businesses face: low conversion rates after generating quality leads. Lauren shares an in-depth example from one of her clients who was generating tons of leads but only achieving a 5% booking rate. We explore why this happens and how you can fix it. From the crucial need for accurate data tracking to the importance of defining a "qualified lead," we outline the tweaks to your sales funnel that will boost lead conversions and significantly reduce your marketing spend.In This Episode:- Case study of high leads and low conversion rates- Sample lead qualification and conversion framework- Estimating the value of opt-ins- The correct sequence of contacting leads- Episode wrap-up and call-to-actionListen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
Stop obsessing over new audiences and creative tests in Meta ads. We’ve got something better! Tier 11’s John Moran is back to share his latest breakthrough: the Sticky Pixel strategy, the secret to maximising your ROAS in every campaign.Through real-world examples in highly competitive spaces, John reveals how creative diversification and understanding Meta's Andromeda update unlock massive cost reductions. His team has managed to acquire new customers for less than the cost of a click, something that would be nearly impossible if you used traditional Google Ads. We explore the real power of Meta’s new audience-building system and how it keeps your pixel "sticky" to past users while optimizing ad spend. This isn't just about theory; it’s a strategy backed by data and results. Join us now to discover how you can tweak your current campaigns to reduce cost-per-acquisition and increase your ad performance.In This Episode:- What is the Sticky Pixel Strategy?- Case study: application of the Sticky Pixel Strategy- Limitations of messaging testing in driving results- Results from broad targeting in TRT campaigns- Overcoming objections with targeted messaging- Using the feeder strategy in Meta ads- Final takeaways on Meta ads spend and strategyMentioned in the Episode:Partner With Tier 11’s Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Tier 11 nCAC: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Creative Diversification Package: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Listen to Previous Ad Lab Live Sessions: tiereleven.com/youtube Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual
Stop using AI like Google for market research. Here is an easy, done-for-you marketing research prompt to help you draft Meta ads that convert: https://www.tiereleven.com/promptAre you still guessing what your market wants and calling it “creative testing”? That’s the fastest way to burn your budget in 2026. If your ads aren’t resonating, it’s probably not the algorithm. It’s your research. Most marketers skip the hardest part and wonder why creative diversification never works.In this episode, Cole Turner from Tier 11 breaks down a smarter way to do market research using AI. We walk you through a live demo showing how a multi-step prompting process compresses weeks of manual research into minutes. The real unlock isn’t the tool; it’s how you structure prompts to extract real voice-of-customer data, emotional triggers, and problem-aware insights that actually drive clicks, leads, and sales.We wrap by showing how to turn that research into ads, scripts, and landing pages that don’t sound like AI fluff. You’ll hear exactly how we use this internally before launching Meta campaigns, and why “garbage in, garbage out” is an accurate statement.In This Episode:- Why creative research still matters- ChatGPT market research framework- Turning research output into ads- When multiple ChatGPT prompts are necessary- How to access and use the market research prompt- Final advice on AI promptingMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode With Cole Turner: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-747-the-1-mistake-thats-secretly-killing-your-meta-andromeda-ads-with-cole-turner/Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Cole Turner:- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleturner98Connect with Ralph Burns: - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/- Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo- Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this show
The Meta platform continues to evolve, leaving marketers with mixed feelings. While some fear the loss of control, others are already seeing extraordinary results. Today, we revisit a lab live session we had on Meta’s new Advantage+ sales system and share a game-changing creative strategy you’ll want to try.We’re hosting John Moran, who has spent over $1 million testing Meta's updates in real time. We discuss the shift from traditional targeting to AI-driven strategies in Meta’s Advantage+ campaigns. John reveals how advertisers are now at the mercy of the algorithm, with little control over exclusions or targeting. However, we’ll also show you how to fight back with custom event cAPI imports, a strategy that’s helping us regain some of the control Meta has taken away. Plus, we break down the shifts in creative testing, campaign structures, and customer targeting to keep you ahead of the curve.In This Episode:- Advantage+ campaigns vs. manual setup- Results from testing Meta’s algorithmic shift- How is Advantage+ different from PMax?- Testing Advantage+ for new customer acquisition- Merging Advantage+ with cAPI imports- Custom event cAPI imports explained- Step-by-step process of setting up Advantage+ campaigns- Inclusions and exclusions with the cAPI strategy- Regaining control with new creative strategiesMentioned in the Episode:Episode 691: The MAJOR Meta Advantage+ Changes You Must Know: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-691-the-major-meta-advantage-changes-you-must-know/ Meta Advantage + Breaking News! | Tier 11 Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-nEIymAkw Get Your nCAC Calculator Now! https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:Head to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.tiereleven.com/audithttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual
Are you convinced your SEO is outperforming paid ads and wondering why you’re still spending six figures on Meta and Google? That assumption might be one of the worst mistakes holding your growth back. We see it all the time: brands looking at last-click data, celebrating “free” organic revenue, and completely missing what’s actually driving demand.In today’s episode, Tier 11’s John Moran breaks down a real client example showing why channel-vs-channel thinking is broken. We unpack how Meta creative diversification fuels branded search, why organic conversions are often downstream of paid traffic, and how Google Search Console exposes real brand lift. We also dispel the impression share myth, explain why doubling spend rarely doubles results, and show how feeder strategies inside Meta Andromeda let you sell multiple products on command. You’ll understand how to read organic data correctly, test hook rates without risking massive budgets, and use feeder campaigns to unlock scalable growth across product lines.In This Episode:- Should you spend more on SEO or paid ads?- Results from organic brand search - Breaking the impression share myth- The feeder strategy explained- Testing the feeder strategy on multiple products - How to test hook rates safely- Hook rates for videos versus statics Do you need help to scale your Meta ads in 2026?Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with John Moran:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/ Mentioned in this episode:https://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit
As we gear up for the new year, we step back and look at the four Perpetual Traffic episodes you listened to the most in the past year and what they reveal about where digital marketing is actually headed. The selected episodes explain why AI-powered customer conversations are being underused and how Advantage+ quietly removed real targeting control.We also break down why most attribution data is misleading, even with CAPI, and what Meta’s massive AI investments mean for marketers and small businesses moving forward. Each episode highlights a different failure point we see inside ad accounts every day: wasted spend, false confidence in platform data, and missed opportunities to turn engagement into revenue.If you want to understand what really worked in 2025 and what will matter most going into 2026, this episode ties it all together.In This Episode:- Episode #4: Using AI to convert customer conversations- Episode #3: Advantage+ and loss of targeting control- Episode #2: CAPI vs attribution with Tier 11’s Data Suite- Episode #1: DeepSeek and the future of advertising- Final thoughts and episode wrap-upFeatured Episodes:DeepSeek Explained: What Marketers Need to Know: https://youtu.be/Ai9fJx41cK0Why Your Marketing Tracking Sucks (Even If You Think It Doesn’t) and How to Fix It: https://youtu.be/SxUaKkz-5OkHow Meta Ads Are Changing Forever: Advantage+ & cAPI Subterfuge Revealed: https://youtu.be/V4vAn65Y6nIHow Meta Ads Manager Is Lying to You & What You Can Do About It: https://youtu.be/kZFiQezrv00Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuKSubscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtrafConnect with Cameron Campbell: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-campbell-b5070759/Connect with John Moran: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangadsConnect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburnsInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-nowConnect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrulloConsult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.tiereleven.com/auditHead to www.perpetualtraffic.com to apply to be a sponsor of this showhttps://www.tiereleven.com/audit






Beyond a podcast, it's a marketing masterclass that transformed my career & keeps redefining my approach. Ralph, Kasim & Molly, along with A-list guests, deliver cutting-edge strategies & actionable insights for everyone: freelancers, agencies, CEOs & more. Every episode explodes with knowledge bombs, making it THE marketing podcast (trust me, I listen to them all!). Thanks for opening doors & igniting growth. Can't wait for more marketing magic! #Perpetualtraffic (PS I’d love to go to T&C!)
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What happened to this podcast? I have been listening since 2017 and the amount of promotions to value recently is appalling!
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I like this and I'll liason more.
Found this by listening to James Schramko. His info is mostly above my pay grade (my goals ate only 10k a month 😂). But using FB ads is huge for me and I love the recent conversation Molly had with James about the subject. It proves exactly what I had been thinking and why my most recent ads were simply promotion of posts that were already popular on their own. Going to be a faithful follower on here I'm sure!
amazing!
glad i heard this episode 😍
nicccceee!
Great insight