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Welcome to The Mark Moss Show—where we break down the old-money system and equip you with the new money protocol to create, multiply, and preserve wealth in the digital age.


Hosted by Mark Moss, a Bitcoin-focused venture capitalist, seasoned entrepreneur, and educator with over 25 years of experience, this show is your blueprint for financial sovereignty. We challenge outdated financial models and explore bold strategies powered by Bitcoin, AI, decentralization, and innovation—giving you the knowledge to navigate today’s fast-changing economy.


We dive deep into macro trends, financial markets, and economic shifts, exposing the flaws of traditional finance and the power of sound money principles. Whether you're an investor, entrepreneur, or someone seeking financial independence, this show provides the real insights and battle-tested strategies you need to thrive.


From high-level business scaling insights to personal war stories of navigating boom-and-bust cycles, you’ll learn how to break free from restrictive financial systems and build unstoppable wealth on your own terms.


Welcome to The Mark Moss Show—where we tear down the permissioned gates of old money and help you take control of your future. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the financial revolution.

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00:00 The Real Reason Bitcoin Is Falling 02:45 Liquidity Vanishes Across All Markets 06:55 The 10/10 Event Breaks Market Structure 11:40 A Forced Seller Dumps Every Morning 14:10 Fundamentals Hit All-Time Strength 16:40 When the Selling Ends and Liquidity Returns 18:10 What You Should Actually Do NowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Colonel Douglas Macgregor, retired U.S. Army Colonel, military strategist, and former Senior Advisor to the Secretary of Defense, joins Mark Moss to deliver a sobering assessment of America’s position in the world. With decades of experience inside the Pentagon and on the battlefield, Macgregor explains why endless wars, financial exhaustion, and strategic overreach have pushed the United States to a historic inflection point — one most policymakers still refuse to acknowledge. In this conversation, we break down the real state of the Ukraine war, why NATO and U.S. military readiness are far weaker than advertised, how debt and money printing quietly fund modern warfare, and why the global order is shifting away from American dominance. Macgregor lays out what this transition means for power, capital, and security — and why understanding these forces is critical for anyone trying to protect their wealth, freedom, and future in a rapidly changing world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00 The Illusion of Record High Markets 03:10 The Dollar as a Broken Yardstick 06:55 Currency Collapses Leave Clues 09:38 How the Imperial Carry Trade Works 12:45 Measuring Markets in Gold and Bitcoin 16:50 The Global Unit of Account Is Fracturing 19:40 How to Position for the TransitionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Michael Saylor, founder and executive chairman of MicroStrategy, returns to explain how Bitcoin is transforming global capital markets and redefining the future of wealth creation. Drawing from his background in science and engineering, Saylor breaks down how Bitcoin’s architecture merges technology, economics, and mathematics to create the first truly engineered form of sound money — one that’s reshaping corporate finance, investment strategy, and even national policy. In this conversation, we explore why legacy finance is structurally unsustainable, how overcollateralized digital credit could replace sovereign debt, and why Bitcoin’s “refinery model” may ignite a new era of capital efficiency. Saylor details the evolution from digital gold to digital credit, how MicroStrategy’s innovations are setting the blueprint for Bitcoin-backed balance sheets, and why governments, banks, and investors will ultimately be forced to adopt Bitcoin as the foundation of a new global financial system.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2026 is not just another year. It’s the beginning of what I believe will be the biggest wealth window of the next four years. Maybe the next decade. But here’s the truth — most people will miss it. Not because of timing… Not because of money… But because they don’t have the capacity or the systems to take advantage of the opportunity.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Samson Mow, CEO of JAN3 and one of the leading voices driving nation-state Bitcoin adoption, joins to break down why the next phase of Bitcoin’s growth will be led not by individuals—but by governments. From El Salvador’s bold experiment to the quiet shift happening in central banks, Samson reveals how Bitcoin is evolving from a monetary revolution into the foundation for a new global financial order. In this conversation, we dive into why governments need to adopt Bitcoin to restore trust in money, how the geopolitical landscape is shifting as U.S. debt, inflation, and currency wars escalate, and why Bitcoin may soon become the standard of fiscal discipline. Samson also unpacks how the nation-state game theory is accelerating adoption, why resistance from legacy institutions is inevitable, and how Bitcoin can ultimately make governments more accountable—and citizens freer.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Pierre Rochard, VP of Research at Riot Platforms and longtime Bitcoin advocate, joins to explain why Bitcoin’s rise is transforming not only markets but the very foundation of the financial system. From the mechanics of speculative attacks to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Pierre reveals how Wall Street adoption, government policy, and sound money principles are colliding to reshape the global order. In this conversation, we explore why the classic 4-year Bitcoin cycle is breaking down, how financialization and leverage are changing the rules of the game, and why Bitcoin’s fundamentals still point to explosive upside. Pierre unpacks the growing role of ETFs, corporate treasuries, and multi-sig custody, while also warning of the political battles ahead—from potential 6102-style risks to the importance of lobbying for Bitcoin’s future. He also dives into how inheritance flows, mining economics, and U.S. fiscal policy will decide who thrives in the next era of Bitcoin adoption—and what it all means for the freedom to control your own money.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The crash everyone’s talking about right now will be worse than 2008… but not in the way almost everyone thinks it’s going to happen. See, the media is bracing you for another housing collapse or a stock market wipeout — but that’s not the real danger. This time, the bubble isn’t in real estate or banks… It’s in a completely different sector that no one is watching — and when it pops, the crash effects will be nothing like what most people are preparing for.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jamie Coutts, Chief Crypto Analyst at Real Vision, joins to break down why Bitcoin’s current bull market looks nothing like the cycles of the past — and what that means for investors navigating the storm ahead. From shifting liquidity regimes to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Jamie reveals how debt, deficits, and central bank policy are reshaping crypto’s place in the global financial system. In this conversation, we dig into why the classic 4-year cycle is breaking down, how fiscal dominance is rewriting the rules of markets, and why Bitcoin’s next explosive volatility may decide the winners and losers of the treasury “arms race.” Jamie also explains where Ethereum and other large-cap cryptos fit into this moment, and what the battle between Trump, Powell, and global liquidity means for the future of money.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tom Luongo, publisher of Gold, Goats ‘n Guns, joins to reveal why today’s global chaos isn’t random — it’s the deliberate strategy of elites fighting to preserve their power. From collapsing currencies to radicalization on the streets, Tom explains how history’s cycles of debt, war, and money printing are converging into an 80-year reckoning. In this conversation, we explore why “when money dies, radicalization rises,” how central banks weaponize disorder to maintain control, and why the dollar’s accelerating death spiral could reshape sovereignty worldwide. Tom also shares his outlook on Bitcoin’s role in the storm ahead, and the choices nations and individuals must make as the old financial order unravels.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brandon Quittem, author and longtime Bitcoiner, joins to unpack why Bitcoin isn’t just an asset but the foundation of a new financial system — and why treasury companies like MicroStrategy may be the most fascinating story in corporate finance in a generation. From Bitcoin’s correlation to global liquidity cycles to the rise of Bitcoin-powered securities, Brandon explains how capital trapped in legacy mandates is being unlocked and funneled into BTC. In this conversation, we dive into the difference between pure-play Bitcoin treasuries and operating companies, and how volatility itself becomes a feature, not a bug. Brandon also explores whether these new Bitcoin corporations can outperform BTC over the next five years, the risks of “Ponzi-adjacent” upstarts, and why the very metrics we use to evaluate companies are being rewritten in the Bitcoin era.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Wealth isn't earned; it's engineered. Join me Jan 7-9 for 3 days where we'll be engineering your complete Wealth Operating System, live, with hands-on tools, custom worksheets, and real-time coaching from me and my team. I wish I would've gone to something like this earlier. Can't wait to see you there 👉 https://go.1markmoss.com/mmyt3 There's the Thanksgiving story, you know, and then there's a major part of the story that you don't. And now, for 28 years, on Thanksgiving Day, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, he read part of this Thanksgiving story. It's been about four years since he's died. And I think it's time for me to bring it back, because most people have no idea how close the pilgrims came to failing. And the reason why is nothing like the version that you learned in school. And whether you live in America or you live in some other country. This story matters because every nation rises and collapses on the same principle that the pilgrims discovered out of sheer desperation. Now, what happened next didn't just save this starving settlement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
"They literally CAN'T let a recession happen - and I'm about to show you the mathematical proof that changes everything you think you know about what's coming next. See, everyone's been waiting for the crash for two years now... defensively positioned, sitting in cash, missing out - but what if I told you the Fed is “TRAPPED” ... in a $35 trillion dollar corner where allowing a recession would collapse the entire system?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CJ Konstantinos, founder of People’s Reserve, joins to explore why the U.S. dollar is trapped in a debt death spiral and why Bitcoin isn’t a competitor to the dollar but its necessary complement. From the dollar’s role as a medium of exchange to Bitcoin’s design as engineered money and absolute digital scarcity, CJ explains how pairing the two could extend the life of the dollar while creating a foundation for sound capital. Drawing from his own experience of buying a home with 100 bitcoin, he unpacks the painful lessons of opportunity cost and why holders need tools to unlock purchasing power without selling their BTC.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Aleks Svetski, author of The Bushido of Bitcoin and entrepreneur behind new ventures like Atlantis, returns to explore why capital alone isn’t enough — and why character, virtue, and community must stand alongside money to build a meaningful future. From Bitcoin’s role as a foundation of sound capital to the need for beauty, excellence, and integrity, Aleks unpacks how civilization risks turning into a strip mall when we optimize only for profit. In this conversation, we dive into the balance of capital and character, the rise of borderless living, and the evolution from social networks into engagement farms. Aleks explains why algorithms and cheap capital erode society, and how projects like Atlantis aim to rebuild authentic community in the real world. We also discuss the future of decentralized identity with Noster, the bifurcation of society into creators and consumers, and why this era could mark the most transformative shift in human civilization in centuries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What happens when $9 trillion in boring 401k money gets permission to chase yield? Because that's about to happen. Trump signing the order. The game is about to change forever. I'm talking about trillions of dollars that have been stuck in losing or low yield in retirement accounts. Now being able to go buy bitcoin or private equity or real estate.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Parker Lewis, renowned Bitcoin thinker and author of the Gradually, Then Suddenly series, joins us to break down why the real economy is broken — and how Bitcoin offers the only viable escape from a system doomed by money printing and ever-growing debt. From the mechanics of volatility to the inevitability of credit collapse, Parker explains why Bitcoin’s fixed supply is the ultimate safeguard for purchasing power, and why most people misunderstand the problem it solves. In this episode, we dig into why money printing distorts price signals, destroys savings, and forces people into imperfect hedges. Parker outlines his three-part framework for understanding Bitcoin: recognizing the problem (monetary debasement), grasping the fundamentals (fixed supply and trustless enforcement), and dismantling common misconceptions (volatility, copyability, criminal use). We explore stablecoins, the “Genius Act,” regulatory capture, and why shifting deck chairs in the dollar system can’t fix the underlying math of debt vs. money supply.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dan Hillery, fund manager and Bitcoin strategist, joins us to break down the next evolution of Bitcoin capital markets: the rise of Bitcoin-native treasury companies engineered to unlock financial leverage with BTC as a base layer. This isn’t just another MicroStrategy clone — it’s a deeper, more sophisticated play. From unsecured convertible notes to preferred shares and fixed-income arbitrage, Dan explains how these companies are disrupting traditional capital formation using Bitcoin as collateral. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning — and how the next generation of firms are building scalable, creditworthy businesses around Bitcoin yield, durable capital structures, and strategic issuance. We unpack the mechanics behind NAV premiums, debt leverage, risk profiles, and the shift from equity issuance to fixed-income instruments. Whether you’re a macro investor, a Bitcoiner seeking asymmetric upside, or a curious analyst trying to understand the future of Bitcoin in public markets, this episode maps the frontier of Bitcoin financialization.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Cory Klippsten, founder of Swan Bitcoin, and Ben Werkman, CIO of Swan, join us to break down the next evolution in Bitcoin investing: public companies engineered from the ground up to maximize Bitcoin exposure. This isn’t MicroStrategy 2.0—it’s something entirely new. From Swan’s vertically integrated model to the overlooked opportunities in private credit, Cory and Ben reveal how Bitcoin-native strategies are disrupting traditional finance from the inside out. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning—and how Swan is building a full-stack financial institution with Bitcoin as its base layer. We unpack the hidden leverage behind Swan’s business model, the risks and rewards of taking the company public, and what it takes to navigate capital markets while staying true to Bitcoin values. Whether you’re a sovereign individual, fund manager, or curious builder, this episode unlocks the future of Bitcoin capital formation—and the asymmetric edge that Swan is betting everything on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tim Kotzman, investor and Bitcoin strategist, joins us to unpack the explosive rise of Bitcoin treasury companies—and why this emerging asset class could reshape how corporations grow, govern, and compete in a post-dollar world. From MicroStrategy’s leveraged playbook to MetaPlanet’s media-first strategy, Tim breaks down how capital markets are being retooled around Bitcoin as pristine collateral. In this episode, we explore why simply “putting Bitcoin on the balance sheet” is no longer enough—and how a new class of public companies is engineering Bitcoin exposure with hedge-fund-like precision. We dig into the nuances of equity valuation in a Bitcoin-native environment, the hidden risks most investors overlook, and how leadership, leverage, and attention are the new trifecta of corporate value creation. Whether you’re a long-term HODLer, equity analyst, or capital allocator, this episode reveals the deeper playbook behind Bitcoin’s corporate revolution.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mark Wegleitner

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Aug 31st
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mephju star

Crazy amount of long ads. Unsubscribed

Mar 18th
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Chuck Aberly

i like listening, but why the loops, over and over in your podcasts a portion of your talk gets repeated....stop please

Feb 28th
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Ed Alvarez

.l

Oct 8th
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Chuck Aberly

Amazingly, this audio stops as soon as you say Blackrock, I've listened twice, stops at the same spot

Sep 2nd
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Anthony Montoya

what are baking a cake during every show? what the heck is that ding through out every show? extremely annoying! other than that, great show!

Jul 20th
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