The Shakedown

Dave and Rainforest discuss the ins and outs (literally) of cellies (cellmates). In this episode, we discuss misconceptions we have heard and topics that we don't hear discussed outside prisons. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - We're back! 00:44 - Our Patreon Page! 01:14 - About The Shakedown 02:15 - Let's talk about cellies! 03:41 - Is "finding a cellie" like "dating"? 04:16 - Are cellies like college dormmates? 05:08 - What is life with a cellmate like? 06:29 - Ins and Outs and Cellies 08:34 - What are Ins and Outs in prison? 10:26 - Fights between cellies 12:10 - Dogs, Routines, and how the state creates chaos 15:30 - "Common courtesy" in prison? 16:18 - How to use a bathroom in prison 17:49 - Waste in prison (other than humans) 18:50 - What's a REAL BAD cellie? 20:48 - Getting STUCK in the cell

Discussing prison abolition often feels like an uphill battle, especially with people unfamiliar with the concept or unsure why criminals deserve empathy at all. In this episode, Malone plays devil's advocate as Rainforest defends prison abolition. Rainforest gets the stats wrong, but he explains a different perspective on prison abolition so that YOU can start discussing prison abolition.    Since Rainforest got the stats wrong, this will be part 1 of a series talking about prison abolition. The next in the series will specifically discuss the correct numbers so that you can have an accurate idea of what Rainforest was trying to describe with the incarceration and reoffending numbers.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show   Find our merch at: https://wayword.press   Timestamps  0:00 Shakedown Intro  2:00 How to talk about prison abolition  3:20 Why do we let criminals out of prison  7:20 Should we protest the death penalty?  12:20 Are we just letting inmates go?  13:45 Security is NOT Convenient  18:50 Treatment vs. prison  21:30 Will more people get hurt in a world without prisons?  30:25 Do criminals DESERVE to be treated better?  35:55 Bridges to Life and learning from victims  40:00 Good Christians listen to The Shakedown  41:30 How wanting criminals suffer makes everyone suffer  43:00 What babies have been getting away with for way too long...  44:08 What's coming up at The Shakedown!

We finally finish explaining what happened to Rainy's yearly commitment and how it changed. And by the end of the episode, Malone gets Rainforest on a tirade so bad that he worries it will threaten the rest of the show!   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Get our merch at: https://wayword.press  Timestamps:  0:00 Intro and recap  6:00 What Rainforest should say instead of accepting responsibility  7:50 What happened to Rainy's commitment?  10:15 What happens if you violate parole or probation?  15:00 Thank you Colorado  17:30 What happened to Rainy's commitment...really?  19:30 The attitude of the judge vs the DA  23:30 Why Rainforest feels the judge was not listening  26:45 Why MADD is evil  29:45 Closing thoughts

Malone asks the questions this week as we find out updates on Rainforest's yearly commitment as well as what it takes to make changes to a condition of parole in Collin County, TX.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find The Shakedown merch at: https://wayword.press  Timestamps  0:00 Introduction  3:00 Do you have to hire a lawyer to change your commitment?  7:40 What does being on parole and probation at the same time mean?  13:50 Is it unusual to start parole after prison?  15:20 Excessive Sentences and Unpredictable Sentences  17:00 Creative sentencing in Texas  21:30 Is punishment helpful?  26:30 Closing

On this very special episode of The Shakedown, Rainforest, Malone, and Dave all hang out to discuss their achievements since getting out of prison. Of course, Malone thinks he doesn't have any so most of the episode is spent trying to convince Malone that, yes, he has actually accomplished something. Also, Dave apparently has really bad gas. Links: The Shakedown at Fan Expo: https://youtu.be/JKuFURggDPs More about The Shakedown: https://shakedown.show Shop our merch and support our show: https://wayword.press Timestamps 0:00 Opening 0:14 Introductions to Rainforest, Malone, and Dave 1:30 What have we accomplished 2:18 What has Malone accomplished 3:25 What has Rainforest accomplished 4:10 The Shakedown welcomes all sponsors 5:30 Who is Moe?...maybe 6:35 What is Wayword Press and Warp Ranger? 10:00 The Shakedown at Fan EXPO 13:20 Who is Moe?...finally 15:30 Is it all about who you know? 19:00 Why couldn't Moe get a job? 23:00 Is job success based on merit or who you know? 24:00 The formula for job success 27:30 Dave explains why you join a fraternity 28:45 Let's see Rainforest's prison fist bump 30:00 Closing

We continue our discussion about the ideal criminal justice system by discussing how to prevent corruption from taking our ideal rehabilitation system and turning it back into prison camps.    More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

In this multi-part discussion, Rainforest explains to Malone why the "lock 'em up" rhetoric hurts society. He discusses how he feels prison, policing, and attitudes need to change to reduce crime and make a safer world.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Malone and Rainforest dive into everyone's favorite rape elimination act - PREA. What it stands for, what it means, when it started, and when it actually hit Texas. Malone talks about life before and after PREA. And we talk about why some inmates miss, "The good ol' days."   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Malone is back as we talk about the differences between maximum and medium security units in TDCJ. Malone tells some stories and -- as always -- we get sidetracked.    More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

David Brown guests hosts as Rainforest and Dave discuss the social hierarchies in prison. We discuss respect, disrespect, and everything in between.    More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

David Brown guests hosts as Rainforest and Dave discuss the social hierarchies in prison. We discuss respect, disrespect, and everything in between.     More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Rainforest is on his own telling stories about life on the Trusty Camp and why the hardest part of your sentence is right as your are about to head back out into the free world.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Inmates love to watch people get arrested and go to jail. What are their favorite shows? And how are those shows influencing our society? All this will be discussed in our latest episode. Plus, should you listen to or watch True Crime shows? And why are they not really "true"? More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Rainforest, as usual, is causing a ruckus on the internet. Today he discusses a local debate about to do with sex offenders and his views on the issues. He also discusses why discussions about sex offenders can derail real work on criminal justice reforms. Also, can someone please help Malone with his phone?  More about us at: https://shakedown.show   Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Malone returns in this previously unreleased episode as we discuss Rainforest's commitment as well as what commitments mean in the criminal justice system. And just how easy a commitment can put certain categories of people right back in prison.   More about us at: http://shakedown.show  Get Shakedown merch at: http://shakedown.show

So Malone can't podcast for a while which means The Shakedown is going to get shook up. Hear about what's up with Malone and also some of prison stories from Rainforest.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show   Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

With Malone still dealing with technical issues, here is more from our conversation about making comics in prison after being interrupted by the infamous Ben David Bros. We explain why we have more time outside than inside prison to work on comics. And we discuss more about our influences in creating comics.   More about us at: https://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: https://wayword.press

Today Rainforest interviews a guest about what he knows about criminal justice based on a life of just watching TV and following the news. Both Rainforest and his guest learn some new things about the media's presentation of criminal justice. More about us at: http://shakedown.show Find our merch at: http://wayword.press

Can we resolve crime without punishment? Malone and Rainforest discuss this issue as well as the underlying issue of convincing the public to view criminals as people.   More about us at: http://shakedown.show  Find our merch at: http://wayord.press

The West Memphis 3 which stirred up controversy across the country when three teens were given life sentences based on confessions which did not match up with the evidence found at the crime. We discuss this case and how labelling this crime as an occult crime and using standard police interrogation techniques lead to convictions as opposed to finding the truth. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Check out our merch at: https://wayword.press