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Sense & Signal: Leading Through Sensemaking
Author: Daniel Tarker and Jodah Jensen
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Tne Sense &; Signal: Leading Through Sensemaking Podcast is hosted by Jodah Jensen and Daniel Tarker. The show explores contemporary issues in organizational leadership through the sense of sensemaking.
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In the digital age, data analytics has emerged as a transformative sensemaking tool, empowering organizational leaders with valuable insights to make informed decisions. However, despite its potential for driving meaningful change, data analytics is often misinterpreted, leading to flawed conclusions and misguided actions. What is a leader supposed to do? How do leaders create a data centric environment? How do leaders train data informed teams? And how can leaders making using data fun?
In this episode of the Sense and Signal podcast, Jodah and Dan welcome Dr. Alexandra Mannerings to learn the common pitfalls of data analytics, highlight the factors contributing to data misinterpretation, strategize how to optimize data usage in organizations, and train teams to be more data savvy.
Alexandra Mannerings’ s company, Merakinos, provides data analytic education and support to nonprofits and businesses.
Topics include correlation vs. causation, context and bias, misinterpretation of statistical measures, lack of domain knowledge, and failure to account for change. Data analytics is a wild ride, so get on board and join on this episode of the Sense and Signal podcast.
Socrates said you should know thyself – and this Sense and Signal podcast panel discission examines what knowing oneself looks like for leaders. Jodah and Dan delve into what it means for leaders to know themselves with favorite guests Hana Gala and Zoe Fragou, both highly regarded international leadership consultants and trainers. They explore why knowing oneself is important for leaders, using tools like psychometrics to understand oneself and others, the power of self-deception, the impact of social media on bullshitting and imposter syndrome, the influence of postmodernism on our ability to know ourselves, and Taylor Swift as a celebrity leader.
ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU
Zoe’ Fragou’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/
Zoe Fragou’s blog post “Positive Psychology v. Toxic Positivity” blog post - https://cto.academy/positive-psychology-vs-toxic-positivity/
ABOUT HANA GALA
Hana is the Director of Coaching Programs for an international consultancy Leadership Associates based in Vienna, Austria. She is also a professor of business management at South Seattle College. Hana has been an active member of many industry associations (SHFM, NACE, HFTP), consulted with multiple Fortune 500 companies (Microsoft, Coca-Cola), and is a certified executive coach (ACC ICF) and embodiment specialist. She is currently writing a book on space, body, and soul.
https://leadership.associates/hana-kabele-gala/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/hana-kabele-gala-phd-068a9a22/
MORE ABOUT JODA JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
Many higher education employees are transitioning to jobs outside of academia for a plethora of reasons. In this wide-ranging interview with Dr. Julie Murray-Jensen, Jodah and Dr. Dan explore what higher education leadership skills transfer to the non-profit sector? They also discuss the grief one experiences leaving an industry that has shaped your identity most of your life – especially when your exit is painful. Finally, they learn about fiscal sponsor organizations as Julie recounts her new beginning as a non-profit executive. This episode will be valuable to organizational leaders interested in transitioning to another sector, those interested in learning about transferrable leadership skills, and listeners eager to use a fiscal sponsorship organization to launch their small non-profit.
ABOUT DR. JULIE MURRAY-JENSEN
Dr. Julie Murray-Jensen is the Executive Director of the Foundry Non-Profit Hub. She is the former President of Blackburn College and Vice-President of Enrollment and External Affairs at Klamathn Community College. You can find more here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-murray-jensen/
TIMESTAMPS
00:37 – Transferrable skills from higher education leadership to non-profit leadership
07:00 – Discovering meaning and purpose in non-profit work
07:46 – The pathways to college leadership in higher education
10:11 – Exiting higher education
12:00 – Higher ed too large a system to be sustainable
13:12 – Fear and rumors at shrinking colleges
14:19 – Factor contributing to the shrinking higher education sector
17:51 – Sucking at deconstructing organizations
19:40 – The importance of purpose driven businesses
20:00 – The stages of grief transitioning out of higher education
22:02 – Transitions by William Bridges
23:00 – Rebuilding a new identity
25:51 – Jodah pushes his piano playing limits
27:35 – The volatility of the tech sector normalizes big career transitions
30:00 – Discovering the non-profit pathway to a new beginning
36:00 – The big hardships of Julie’s transition
40:00 – Moving from status to empathy
41:00 – What is a fiscal sponsorship organization
51:00 – The hope people should gain from Julie’s story
#leadership #HigherEducation #non-profit #TransferrableSkills #transitions #grief #fiscal sponsorship #purposedrivenbusiness #fear #collegeleadership
Dan and Jodah speak with Sense & Signal Alumnus Jesan Sorrells and Kimberly J Benoit, to explore and debate the role of communication in organizations.
Communication in organizations is a multifaceted process marked by various complexities. Diverse backgrounds, roles, and communication styles within the workforce can lead to misunderstandings and language barriers. Hierarchical structures may distort communication flows, affecting decision-making. Technological advancements and remote work introduce challenges related to information overload and virtual miscommunication.
Additionally, organizational culture and climate significantly impact communication effectiveness, with trust and transparency being crucial. Overcoming these complexities requires promoting clarity, active listening, fostering an open communication culture, providing training, and leveraging appropriate technology. Effective communication is essential for organizational success.
Join Dan, Jodah, and friends as they, not so seriously, take very seriously the issues of communication around leadership and organizations.
Jesan Sorrells is the CEO and Founder of HSCT Publishing, LLC.
https://www.jesansorrells.com/leadership-lessons-from-the-great-books/
Kimberly J Benoit Known for The We’ve All Done It™ Framework, Kimberly is a leadership & workplace toxicity expert who coaches, consults, and speaks for organizations needing fresh strategies to keep great leaders, unite teams, and combat toxicity.
Timestamps:
01:39 – Kimberly’s bad communication story
05:27 – Jargon and communication
10:02 – Being the new person at work and communication
12:40 – Non-verbal communication in the workplace
15:00 – Social Proofing
21:00 – Jesan’s really bad communication story
25:00 – The illusion that you have communicated
26:00 – Getting fired through a Tik-Tok Video
31:00 – PR communications people for leaders
36:00 – Impact of hierarchies on communication
38:00 – Dan’s terrible communication story
39:00 – Messaging clue if someone quit or got fired
43:00 – Scale of organization and communication
43:58 – Is gossip always bad?
50:53 – Silence as a communication tool – Is it a power trip?
56:48 – Over-communication
1:06:00 – Jodah’s erectile dysfunction story
Deep in the heart of a dense forest, a community of chimpanzees live together in harmony....NOT!
Jodah and Dan have both recently watched Chimp Empire,the new Netflix documentary about a tribe of Chimps that live in the forests of Uganda. Although they both felt it was an amazing undertaking and cinematic, they were mostly intrigued to watch the chimpanzees encounter challenges such as limited resources and competition for mates, leading to power struggles and conflicts, as some individuals sought to dominate and control the groups. They apply Mark Van Vogt’s evolutionary leadership theory to their analysis of Chimp Empire to identify how the leadership behaviors of these tribes may be mapped to leadership behaviors in our more complex world today.
Question...what can we learn from the engagements of chimps in the wild? What evolutionary lessons can we leverage? Are there parallels to us and our work environments. Do you ever get a hankering to just grab a coat rack and run around the office screaming your head off]? We recommend you not to.
Watch as Dan and Jodah try to make sense of what they watched and attempt to harvest some leadership knowledge along the way.
Show Summary.
The hosts, Jodah and Dr. Dan, introduce the topic of the episode, which is a BBC nature series called Chimp Empire that follows the lives and conflicts of three rival chimp families in Senegal.
They discuss how the series showcases different aspects of leadership, such as power, influence, strategy, culture, communication, and innovation.
They compare and contrast the leadership styles of the three chimp leaders: David, the dominant alpha male of the Fongoli group; Luthor, the ambitious challenger of the Simenti group; and Jumkin, the charismatic leader of the Baobab group.
They analyze how each leader uses different tactics to maintain or gain power, such as forming alliances, exploiting resources, displaying strength, or creating narratives.
They also explore how each leader faces different challenges and threats, such as predators, droughts, diseases, or internal dissent.
They draw parallels between the chimp dynamics and human organizations, and share some insights and lessons for leaders in complex and uncertain environments.
They conclude by reflecting on their own experiences and preferences as leaders and followers, and invite the listeners to share their thoughts and feedback on the episode.
https://www.netflix.com/title/81311783#leadership #management #sensemaking #chimpanzee #empire #ChimpEmpire #evolutionarypsychology #evolutionaryleadership
n this follow up to the previous episode on the philosophical aspects of the emergence of artificial intelligence, Dr. Dan and Jodah tackle practical ways leaders can use AI to move their organizations forward. They discuss using AI as a tool for decision making, predictive analytics, automation, customer insights, risk management, talent management, personalization, process optimization, resource allocation, and competitive intelligence.
Jodah and Dr. Dan discuss how the rapid emergence of “Artificial” Intelligence (#AI) with the release of #chatgpt in November, 2022 will impact organizational #leadership now and in the future. They debate what artificial intelligence is - and whether artificial is really an appropriate descriptor, discuss the impact on the workforce, consider how tools like Chat GPT can improve productivity, ponder whether AI programs should be paused, and how this technology forces us to reflect on what it means to be human - and a human of value in a seemingly indifferent universe. They also talk about how Roahl Dahl’s 1953 short story, “The Great Automatic Grammatizator” predicts Chat GPT.
Don’t Die in Space: Communication Lessons from Apollo 13
Jodah and Dr. Dan applied MIT #research on effective #team dynamics to the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13. In addition to concluding that all successful teams need Tom Hanks in a #leadership position, they use. The research to identify the characteristics of a productive team dynamic - because the research says a successful team has more to do with the #communication behaviors of the group than the leadership of any one individual. An vittal episode for any #executive or mid-level #manager or #leaders looking for ways to create productive communication #behaviors on their teams.
LINK TO RESEARCH
The New Science of Building Great Teams by Alex “Sandy” Pentland, Harvard Business Review
https://hbr.org/2012/04/the-new-science-of-building-great-teams
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Apollo 13 and Communication
12:00 - Research on Effective Team Communication Behaviors
41:13 - Applying Communication Research to Apollo 13
#leadershio #teams #communication #research #Apollo13 #movies #leadershipskills #teamdynamics #collectivecognition #distributedleaderships #training #improvization
What can #philosophy teach organizational #leaders? In this wide ranging discussion with philosophy professor Gwendolyn Dolske, Jodah and Dr. Dan explore #happiness and #meaning in relation to #work, what leaders can learn from the #existentialists, how #GenZ is showing up to the workplace, the impacts of #socialmedia on our #attention spans and mental health, what #ChatGPT reveals about being human, and why it’s important to develop our character to be good humans and #leaders. Perfect episode for executives and managers who want to reflect on their role helping employees in multigenerational workplaces self-actualize to find meaning and happiness in their work.
ABOUT GWENDOLYN DOLSKE
Dr. Gwendolyn Dolske is a philosophy professor and podcaster. She teaches Critical Thinking, Moral Theory, Ethics, Existentialism, and Philosophy of Sex and Love, She penned a small book Tips From The Professor, and I co-produce and co-host Good Is In The Details podcast.
LINKS TO GWENDOLYN DOLSKE
Good is in the Details Podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/show/01sSTIkORzkvRLW3DW6lZJ?si=lgROpc0YTBeEQS8tuvu9jg
Tips from the Professor by Gwendolyn Dolske
https://www.amazon.com/Tips-Professor-Guide-College-Success-ebook/dp/B0095K4YV2?ref_=ast_author_mpb
Gwendolyn’s LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwendolyn-dolske-868a1348/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Which Philosopher Would Make the Best Leadership Coach Game
00:37 – Plato or Machiavelli
02:42 – Aristotle or Thomas Hobbes
04:04 – Rousseau or Derrida
05:07 - Nietzsche or de Beauvoir
06:07 - David Chalmers v. Sam Harris
09:05 – What can leaders learn from philosophy – Aristotle and the object of life
12:18 – Jodah asks about how to apply Aristotle’s philosophy to a practical workplace setting 14:01 – It is in the businesses interest to self-actualize employees
15:24 – What can existentialism teach us about leadership?
19:03 – Bad faith and living authentically
22:41 – Translating existential philosophy to a worker’s real-life situation
28:51 – Potential elitism of Sartre’s position when applied to workplace – Being trapped in a position preventing self-actualization
30:45 – Meaning making and happiness
34:15 – The Myth of Sisyphus and the workplace
36:27 – Failure, life is suffering, learning process
38:45 – Youth, technology, social media – and meaning making with multi-generational workplaces
39:56 – Gen Z politically and socially aware, shorter attention span, and relationship to work
43:28 0 Teaching philosophy on Tik-Tok
44:33 – Gen Z the most diverse generation and Philosophy dominated by white males
46:16 – Social media, boredom, replenishing oneself
47:21 – Sleep deprivation and mental health issues due to being constantly plugged in
48:14 – The Joy of Fart Jokes
51:01 – Dangers of checking social media first thing in the morning
52:53 – We are always on call now – increasing anxiety
54:32 – Character versus image – especially in the workplace.
01:00:00 – Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Woman, and Image
01:02:52 – Fame and likes byproduct of character development
01:04:10 – What can philosophy tell us about Chat GPT – meaning making and happiness
01:07:10 – Dating apps and sex recession
01:11:15 – What does it mean to enjoy your life?
01:16:32 – How to contact Gwendolyn
#leadershipskills #philosophy #socialmedia #meaning #happiness #existentialism #technology #leadership #humanexistence #digitalworld #poweroftechnology #strongleadership #humanity #character #image #ChatGPT
Come join Jodah and Dr. Dan as they learn about the importance of #goals, #grit, and #growth in this lively and warm hearted conversation with Dr. Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski (Dr. Z). In her new book “The 3G Cycle of Life”, she shares a model for #personalgrowth and #healing born out of the traumatic experiences she endured working in the #healthcaresystem during the Covid-19 pandemic. In this episode, they discuss the dysfunctional US #healthcare system, the responsibility of #leaders to support employees, the cyclic nature of personal growth as we age, the importance of #catalysts to initiate change, and the concept of post traumatic growth. Recommended episode for middle and #executive #leaders who want to support their #employees personal growth to create a thriving #organizationalculture.
ABOUT DR. Z
Dr. Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski (Dr. Z) is a triple Board Certified Physician in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics, and Obesity Medicine with extensive clinical and academic experience. Dr. Z is interested in the areas of well-being, burnout, mental health, and leadership development.
She completed a fellowship in Leadership Education and Development (AAMC), and certification as Mental Health Ally, and training as Physician Wellness Advocate. Dr. Z has been recognized for multiple achievements, including Mentor of the Year (AMWA 2021) and American College of Physicians Young Achiever (2017).
Originally from Peru, Dr. Z has two awesome sons, a caring husband, and a supportive family. Her dream is to help others achieve lives full of joy, meaning, and well-being.
CONNECT WITH DR. Z AND BUY HER BOOK
https://www.amazon.com/3G-Cycle-Life-Achieving-Well-Being/dp/B0BVPB6M5F/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_tophttps://www.linkedin.com/in/drzmd/https://www.f3gcycle.live
TIMESTAMPS
2:33 - losing our soul while doing what we love
3:35 - Physicians, depression and burnout
6:35 - Giving up trying to get into the labor force
8:30 - Physician suicide rates are very high
10:20 - Doctors still over performing while under huge stresses
13:00 - Being a woman in med school in Peru
14: 00 - introduction of Guest
16:10 - Dan asks Miriam about where she got her resolve to succeed in an often patriarchal domain
19:50 - We discuss how taking action is important
23:00 - Life is composed of cycles
25:30 - What did Miriam write the book
30:30 - Jodah talks about luck as a catalyst
34:00 - Dan highlights the healthcare system as dysfunctional
36:00 - Leaders making workplace system more emotionally sustainable
40:00 - True story of resilience in the workplace
43:40 - we are introduced to the Post Traumatic Growth
48:20 - How can we help young people with resilience in this post covid world
#leadership #culture #executives #healthcare #growth #grit #goals #leadershipskills #trauma#organizations #hospitals#doctors #leaders#systems #burnout#depression
Jodah and Dr. Dan talk with leadership consultant Dan Edds about his book “Leveraging the Genetics of Leadership” in their ongoing investigation about how to improve organizational leadership in the 21st century. They delve into how leaders today need to become systems designers, building structures that move organizations toward successfully achieving their shared goals. Using DNA as a metaphor, Edds describes how one of the key features that needs to be infused throughout the organizations is a sense of love and care.
MORE ABOUT DAN EDDS
Daniel Edds, MBA is a management consultant who helps organizations develop high-impact cultures. He is the author of two books. The most recent is titled, Leveraging the Genetics of Leadership, cracking the code of sustainable team performance. You can review his work and writing through his LinkedIn page at and personal website at www.DanielEdds.com
CONTACT DAN EDDS AND READ HIS BOOK
www.DanielEdds.com
https://www.amazon.com/Leveraging-Genetics-Leadership-Sustainable-Performance/dp/1890427403/ref=sr_1_3?crid=F82VCIF14EEH&keywords=dan+edds+leadership&qid=1679243165&sprefix=dan+edds+leadership%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-3
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
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Substack: https://tarker.substack.com/Timestamps
00:26 – Leaders are what they repeatedly do
01:21 – Leadership Analogy Game
06:55 – Evolutionary theory and leadership
08:22 – Aristotle, Character, & Leadership
10:51 – Systems Thinking
15:33 – Measuring the Value of Leadership
20:00 – Organizations as People Developers
25:25 – Leaders as Systems Designers
31:31 – Leadership Better Understood as a System
35:26 – Systems Generating Patterns of Behavior
40:09 – Complexity, Leadership, & Bridge Building
44:49 – Complexity Necessitates Distributed Leadership
51:29 – Distributed Design
55:25 – Generational Differences and Leadership
1:01:00 – Servant Leadership
#leadership #systems #systemsthinking #dna #organizationalleadership #love #leadership #leadershipskills #leadershiptraits #culture #design #designthinking #tech #educationalleadership #career #executives
Kimberly Benoit’s book “We’ve All Done It” asks a provocative and uncomfortable question. Are you a toxic #leader? In this lively conversation, Jodah and Dr. Dan investigate the all too common experience of #toxicleadership with Kimberly - even looking into the mirror to see if we are #toxic. They discuss how #toxicleaders show up in our lives in many forms, how to assess if you're bringing toxicity to your work as a #leader, and how to address toxic leadership behaviors. They also question the toxicity of world leaders such as #PeteButtigeg, #DonaldTrump, and #Jimmy Carter. Finally, Kimberly shares some advice on the challenges of #writing about #leadership. A lively and humorous episode perfect for #executives and #middlemanagers interested in improving their #leadershipskills.
ABOUT KIMBERLY BENOIT
Kimberly J Benoit is a leadership & workplace toxicity expert who coaches, consults, and speaks for organizations needing fresh strategies to keep great leaders, unite teams, and combat toxicity. As the bestselling author of the book, “We’ve All Done It,” and host of the podcast of the same name, Kimberly’s on a compassionate, sometimes humorous mission to help us get real about the role we each play in creating toxic workplaces, so we can become more confident leaders, teams, and organizations in the process.
An award-winning leader herself, Kimberly has more than 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and companies from small nonprofits to Fortune 50s like Target. For these organizations, she’s strategically developed and guided high-profile initiatives, organizational transformations, and professional development programs. Her key credentials include two Innovation Awards from Target Corporate, PMP, Mindfulness Certification, Associate Certified Coach (ACC) from International Coach Federation, and two master’s degrees.
Based in New Orleans, LA, Kimberly partners with clients globally.
LINKS TO KIMBERLY BENOIT
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com/services/coaching/
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com/services/speaking/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Top 5 Toxic Leadership Behaviors
06:21 - Introducing Kimberly Benoit
07:11 - How dare you call me a toxic leader, Kimberly!
07:57 - All leaders can be toxic sometimes
09:16 - Jodah thinks Kimberly’s book is a mirror
13:11- Generational differences and leadership
14:22 - People quitting cultures
18:05 - A word from our sponsor - Toxic Interim Managers
19:09 - Emotional support at work
21:15 - Dan’s definition of toxic culture
22:43 - Puffing up and armoring up
24:01 - 10 count before responding
36:57 - How do you know you’re not just dealing with a toxic employee?
41:43 - Getting someone to challenge your narrative
51:23 - Swinging for the fences when you have nothing to lose
52:10 - Jodah’s decapitation story
54:31 - Celebrity leaders - Pete Buttigeg, Donald Trump and Jimmy Carter
01:08:59 - Writing about leadership
01:23:51 - How to contact Kimberly Benoit
01:25:11 - Disney is coming after us
#leadership #toxicleadership #work #organizations #PeteButtigeg #DonaldTRump #JimmyCarter #writing #writiingaboutleadership #highereducation #yech #siliconvalley
#mentorship #coaching #Culture #quitting #Generations #GenZ #Millenials #GenX #defensiveness #emotionalsupport #badleaders #podcast #humor
Why Distributed Leadership is the FUTURE
Jodah and Dan talk with Tech executive Michael Peachey about the concept of distributed leadership in both the tech and higher education sectors. What exactly is distributed leadership and how does one design their organizations to promote a flattened out structure where everyone has the opportunity to step into leadership roles? And how can theories of distributed leadership be used to strengthen EDI initiatives, remote operations, and employee engagement? Finally, what are the dangers of remote operations in the future and how do we train leaders and design organizations to function in a more distributed organizational environment?
ABOUT MICHAEL PEACHEY
Michael builds high-performing, low-drama, user experience and product teams with a focus on enterprise and consumer software in organizations from startups working to find their initial product-market fit to multi-billion dollar revenue public companies. I knew Michael when he was leading user experience design at TIBCO software, working with him on a global team of onsite and remote designers that he had built, starting with the first UX hire. Since then, Michael has continued to work at the intersection of product design and development in cybersecurity at Sumo Logic and ZeroWall, and in remote employee collaboration at RingCentral. Michael is a frequent contributor on the future of work and has a keen fascination with leadership at a distance, a topic which has become even more critical in a post-COVID world of hybrid work.
CONTACT MICHAEL PEACHEY
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peachey/
https://www.peachey.com
TIMESTAMPS
3:29 - What is distributed leadership?
6:29 - Directionality and distributed leadership
7:14 - Determining when a distributed model is useful and when it is not
10:36 - Crisis management and command and control leadership
13:55 - Differences between distributed leadership and 20th century hierarchies
15:19 - What value will distributed leadership give us?
16:58 - Distributed leadership & complexity
19:03 - The power of story in leadership
20:40 - Michael’s favorite organizational leadership story
22:34 - The group mind is superior to the individual mind
24:10 - The occult and the egregore
27:24 - Distributed leadership in the tech sector
29:24 - How to convince leaders to embrace distributed leadership? And the importance of defining roles.
33:17 - distributed leadership in complex organizations like higher education institutions
36:00 Difference between micro and macro managing
39:36 - Fuzzy direction in post COVID world
43:45 - Distributed leadership in a physically distributed, remote work environment
45:45 - Leaders need soft skills to thrive in a distributed environment
48:34- Distributed leadership and impact of efficiencies and speed
50:37 - Dan’s monologue about remote work during COVID and the future
53:13 - Importance of leading with intentionality
55:11 - Importance of workplace friendships and mentors
1:00:00 - Getting trained on soft skills
1:06:00 - What’s the future with in-person v remote work?
1:23:00 - How tp contact Michael Peachey
#leadership #distributedleadership #tech #highereducation #jodahjensen #dantarker #michaelpeachey #design #intentionality #remotework #workfriends #oeganizations #complexity
The Dark Triad Survival Guide - How to Battle Machiavellians, Narcissists, and Psychopaths in the Workplace
#Machiavellians, #Narcissists, and #Psychopaths are running around our organizations causing all kinds of mayhem. And some are rising to top #leadership positions because of their diabolical #personality traits. What can we do to survive?
Join Jodah and Dan with a lively panel discussion with Leadership Consultant Zoe Fragou and Innovation Designer Brad Topliff to develop your #Dark Triad Survival Kit. Learn how to identify #narcissists, #Machiavellians, and #psychopaths in your organizations, why they behave in the destructive ways they do, and what you can do to protect yourself against someone who has one - or all of these - #Dark Triad #personality traits.
MORE ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU
Zoe Fragou - Organizational Psychologist || PhD candidate || Leadership Developer || Team-Building Expert || Awarded Business Coach
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/
MORE ABOUT BRAD TOPLIFF
Brad, like Liam Neeson, has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. He is an organizational Swiss Army Knife. He has a new blog at workquilibrium.com where he will share his thoughts on how organizations and employees can learn to love (or at least like) each other.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradtopliff/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
TIMESTAMPS
00:01 - The Pop Culture Dark Triad Trivia Game
05:38 - Defining narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy
08:48 - How to identify a narcissist, machiavellian, or psychopath in your organization
09:12 - Is Donald Trump dark triad?
09:31 - Tps of companies narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths can be successful in
12:06 - Factor analysis and the dark triad
21:24 - Don Draper and organizations putting up with dark triad leaders
23:45 - Negative effects of dark triad leaders on a company
27:29 - Is Elon Musk a psychopath?
32:46 - Do you need to have dark triad traits to be as successful as Steve Jobs?
39:04 - Does our society romanticize dark triads traits too much in the media?
47:47 - Nature v. Nurture and dark triad
50:48 - Dark triad leaders don’t want to change
53:10 - How to protect yourself from a dark triad leader?
55:21 - Gender roles and the dark triad
57:13 - Traits of the dark triad you’ll see in an organization
57:59 - The dark triad in higher education
01:02:00 - Top 10 psychopath jobs
01:04:43 - What can you do about narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths at work pt 2
01:05:13 - Transparency and accountability as tools to battle narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths
01:07:36 - Confirm people’s perceptions about the behaviors of narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths at work
01:14:29 - How to contact Zoe Fragou and Brad Topliff
Spiritual Entrepreneurship with UGG Founder Brian Smith
Jodah and Dan discuss spirituality, entrepreneurship, and leadership with UGG founder Brian Smith. They unpack his book The Birth of a Brand to explore how Brian persisted despite multiple setbacks to turn the UGG brand into one of the most recognized companies in the world. Brian shares insights about what makes a strong brand, the characteristics of a successful entrepreneur, the life cycle of a new business, the importance of standing up to toxic people in the workplace, and why it's important to trust your goosebumps.
BUY BRIAN SMITH’S BOOK THE BIRTH OF A BRAND
https://www.amazon.com/The-Birth-of-Brand-Brian-Smith-audiobook/dp/B07JDD9HNT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2J0YQ7OTHSP51&keywords=birth+of+a+brand&qid=1676221266&sprefix=birth+of+a+brand%2Caps%2C235&sr=8-1
CONTACT BRIAN SMITH
Briansmithspeaker.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:53 - Brian’s favorite entrepreneur albums
01:29 – Brian on Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon
02:52 – Brian on Pink Floyd’s The Wall
04:09 – Brain is preparing a speech on spirituality and entrepreneurship
05:41 – The roots of Brian’s spirituality
06:31 – Brian almost dies in a fire
08:12 – Brian on the importance of listening to your goosebumps
09:50 – Brian on importance of spirituality and making personal connections in business and in the family
12:21 – Brian on how failure doesn’t exist until you give up
14:38 – How your greatest disappointments can become your greatest blessings
15:52 – Importance of persistence in Brian’s story
16:24 – What kept Brian going despite so many challenges founding the Ugg brand
16:48 – Australian’s born with sheep skin knowledge
17:54 – Brian converts a resistant buyer making them try on an Ugg without their socks on
19:07 – Brian felt an obligation get Ugg boots on people’s feet
19:52 – Is an entrepreneur a problem solver?
19:58 - What is an entrepreneur?
20:13 – We all have a calling
21:25 – The entrepreneur takes the unpredictable route
22:06 – You can’t give birth to adults
23:42 – Finding the customer’s objection
24:35 – Nike starting out at the same time as Ugg
27:13 – What is a brand?
29:34 – Importance of authenticity in branding
31:56 – Influencer as marketer
32:18 – Rush Limbaugh as Ugg brand spokesperson
36:50 – Ugg & Nordstroms
40:05 - Capitalization
43:43 – Importance of Inventory financing
46:14 – What did Brian learn about leadership?
49:00 – Business like a growing child
53:59 – Letting go of the details as you advance in your ranks
57:04 – What should entrepreneurs be thinking about today?
58:25 – Importance of having something to build on
59:27 – Things entrepreneurs should do to keep going
01:02:58 – Toxic people in the workplace
01:08:11 – Standing up to toxic people
01:09:52 – Selling Ugg company
01:13:18 – Brian’s life after Ugg
01:16:07 – Contacting Brian Smith
#leadership #entrepreneurship #Ugg #spirituality #business
DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGIES - Blockchain, Bitcoin, and Decentralized Finance
In this panel discussion, Jodah and Dan talk with returning guest Mr. Key and new guest Jörgen Ringman about how blockchain, bitcoin, and decentralized finance will impact organizational leadership in the coming years.
ABOUT MR. KEY
Mr. KEY (Karnika E. Yashwant) is an impact entrepreneur building and supporting the next billion dollar start-ups. Co-founder of Forward Protocol (Wordpress of web3), and founder of KEY Difference Media (largest and oldest blockchain marketing agency and incubator), he has been in the blockchain space since 2013. He continues to hold many strategic positions, and is a sought after speaker and advisor in the crypto sphere. He is based in Dubai.
https://linktr.ee/KarnikaYashwant
https://linkedin.com/in/mrkey
KEY Overview: https://docsend.com/view/a9jbfi8sdttgkypn
Other Websites:
Keydifferencemedia.com
Utopian.capital
Forwardprotocol.io
ABOUT JORGEN RINGMAN
Jörgen Ringman is impact entrepreneur, philanthropist, conscious leader. Founder of Water150 by Longhouse Foundation(connecting blockchain with real world assets by tokenizing 1000 of the best spring water wells in the world) and earlier founder of Memira Eye surgery chain in northern Europe.
https://water150.io/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
Jodah and Dan discuss the latest leadership headlines over a couple glasses of wine,.
Elon has recently closed the Seattle office and asked people to work from home. This is an almost 180 from a previous stance, where he was adamant to have his employees come back to the office. Why has he made this switch? Are their economic pressures making leaders rethink the concept of remote work? What are the impacts to work and our communities of everyone begins to work at home more ? These are things we discuss in the first part of the show.
In the second part we acknowledge that times are a' changing, but has leadership kept up. What will it take for modern leadership and organizations to succeed in what seems like a rapidly changing environment. The world can often seem like a rudderless ship, without a captain. Whether true or not, what kinds of approaches and methods are at our disposal to thrive in the chaos.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:53 - This was not the planned episode
3:00 - Dan rants about the quality of business articles
6:50 - Elon Musk closes Seattle office and asks for people to work from home
9:40 - Main reason why he closing Seattle office
10:10 - Recession reality check by Dan
10:50 - Companies are reacting to possible recession
11:15 - Is Tech sector is a canary in coal mine for economy?
13:15 - Traditional leaders, Non-traditional leaders, and working from home
19:30 - Working from home helps with employee retention
20:20 - Jodah thinks collaboration takes a hit when working from home
26:00 - Are going to design and plan for the changes to society from remote work
29:05 - Leveraging the are of sense making and improvisation
30:00 - Definition of Pivoting and Sense Making
31:30 - Leaders adapting in modern times
35:00 - Train leaders to understand when they are in periods of uncertainty
37:15 - Fragility of organizational communication
38:50 - Diverse opinions and thoughts
39:55 - Barrier to improvisation and change
43:40 - Rapid prioritization
The Terror of Chat GPT: In Conversation with Jack Wang
Dan discovered Chat GPT one day while doom scrolling through You Tube. The messenger – Jack Wang, an Associate Professor of Microbiology at University of Queensland. A videographer and YouTuber, Jack was using his channel to explore how Chat GPT might one day displace him as a teacher and to investigate whether this new AI bot could be used as an office assistant. Now, Jack is joining Dan and Jodah to talk about what he has discovered about Chat GPT and what he fears most about Open AI’s latest release.
ABOUT JACK WANG
Associate Professor Jack Wang completed a dual degree in Science and Information Technology in 2006 and his doctoral studies studied the interface between molecular bioscience and microbiology. Jack’s educational research revolves around measuring the impact of integrating technology in large science classes with >1000 students a semester. In 2020 he was named the Australian University Teacher of the Year.
JACK WANG’S LINKS
My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/biolabcollective
My website: https://jackwang.com.au
My free weekly newsletter: https://crossoverconnections.substack.com/
SENSE & SIGNAL WEBSITE
https://senseandsignal.com/?fbclid=IwAR0YDRcO7wAzpuQhblOdIIAhUdXfQCoc-3WYVswMdNBWto7d67XS-brm6Y8
ABOUT THE SENSE & SIGNAL PODCAST
Join the Sense and Signal podcast to discover the secrets to effective leadership in complex organizations.
We believe learning about modern day leadership and what it takes to shepherd organizations through todays quagmire should not only be interesting, but also irreverent and entertaining. Our goal is to support and educate current and aspiring leaders at all levels and from all sectors to adapt to an increasingly complex organizational environment. Here we will talk about:
• Leadership
• Sense Making and Problem solving tools
• Data Analytics
• Organizational Culture
• Communication through storytelling
• Innovation
• Team Dynamics
• Current Trends around organizational leadership
Call to Action
Subscribe to this channel to get immediate insights and solutions to the burning problems facing as an organizational leader and citizen. Also, click here to watch our introduction video.
Just because we are laughing does not mean we are not taking things seriousl
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
#chatGPT #leadership #Highereducation #teaching #Microsoft #ElonMusk #terror #existentialcrisis #OpenAI #chatbots
Leaders need to get out of their heads. That’s the central message of this interview with acclaimed science writer and author of the Extended Mind Annie Murphy Paul. In this though provoking episode, Annie informs Jodah and Dan about the importance of feelings to thinking, how our bodies are important to our thinking process, how the physical spaces we work in impact our cognition, and how groups of people can effectively think better together. A fascinating episode perfect for executives and managers looking for new leadership tools and frameworks that involve the body, re-think physical workspaces, and build better teams able to engage in effective collective cognition.
ABOUT ANNIE MURPHY PAUL
Annie Murphy Paul is an acclaimed science writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, Scientific American, and The Best American Science Writing, among many other publications. She is the author of Origins, The Cult of Personality, and now The Extended Mind. Senior writer at the Hidden Brain Podcast on NPR.
Annie Murphy Paul’s Contact:
https://anniemurphypaul.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Jodah is late for the podcast because je’s taking a walk
01:32 – Why feelings are so important to thinking (Hint - Descartes was wrong)
04:30 – Expanding our understanding of thinking beyond the isolated brain
07:16 – Physical activity and thinking – movement a gesture augmenting or thinking
09:00 – Should leaders be taking more walks with their teams?
10:00 – The restorative power of nature
12:00 – Why you shouldn’t feel guilty for talking walks to stimulate thinking
13:00 – Negative impacts of mid-20th Century Cognitive Revolution – Brain is like a computer metaphor
15:00 – What is the source of consciousness and is consciousness too limiting a factor to our concept of mind?
18:00 – David Chalmers, Any Clarke, the extended mind, artificial intelligence, and human loppiness
19:20 – AI is another tool to help human thinking
20:00 – Non-conscious processing
22:05 – Stanislavski, arts, gesture, kinesthetic response, memory and thinking
34:30 – Social Introception – attuning your body to others
26:00 – What chimps can teach us about ourselves and leadership – especially non-verbal communication
28:57 – Workspaces and Zoom
30:00 – The loss of apprenticeship by osmosis due to remote work
31:00 – How do we balance the cognitive needs of workers – nature, remote work, om-person collaboration, urban congestion as companies like Amazon return to the offices
35:30 – Fatal flaw of the open office
37:30 – Effective open space team environments that use the physical space
41:35 – Transactive memory systems to find information
43:02 – Impact of cognitive offloading
46:00 – Cognitive apprenticeships, ChatBots, and Tutoring
48:00 – AI, decision making, empathy, and ruthlessness
51:50 – How to use cognitive apprenticeship to train staff
54:00 – Asymmetrical deals and meditation
57:22 – How to contact Annie Murphy Paul
#Leadership, #ExtendedMind #Cognition, #Bodies, #workspaces, #Thinking, #Mind, ##AI, #CHatGPT, #Consciousness, #CognitiveOffloading, #Physicality, #Relationships, #CollectiveThinking, #Groupiness, #Cognitive Apprenticeships, #ArtificialIntelligence
Why Another Freaking Leadership Podcast?
Jodah and Dr. Dan reflect on the first sixth months of the Sense & Signal podcast. They discuss why they started a new leadership podcast, what makes this show different from other leadership podcasts, and how they plan to develop the show going forward. They also reflect some of the themes that emerged after interviewing their first round of guests and about leadership. Plus, there is an informal review of the Netflix movie White Noise. Good episode for current and aspiring leaders at all levels of an organization.
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:53:00 – Review of White Noise
05:33:08 – Development o the Sense & Signal podcast
07:20:26 – Why the hell have another leadership podcast?
13:41:16 – Who is Jodah Jensen?
14:37:25 – Jodah and Dan in San Franciosco
15:58:11 – Who is Dan Tarker?
23:21:11 – Challenges of starting a podcast
26:29:09 – Why does the world need Sense & Signal in particular?
36:35:07 – Importance of the guests
40:24:12 – Theme of storytelling and leadership
42:21:21 – Theme of leadership in postindustrial, sensemaking organizations
44:05:21 – Theme of empathy in the organization
46:43:19 – theme of leadership and disruptive technologies like blockchain and bitcoin
51:37:20 – Theme of data analytics
53:40:09 – Theme of mental frameworks
ABOUT THE SENSE & SIGNAL PODCAST
Join the the Sense and Signal podcast to discover the secrets to effective leadership in complex organizations.
We believe learning about modern day leadership and what it takes to shepherd organizations through todays quagmire should not only be interesting, but also irreverent and entertaining. Our goal is to support and educate current and aspiring leaders at all levels and from all sectors to adapt to an increasingly complex organizational environment. Here we will talk about:
• Leadership
• Sense Making and Problem solving tools
• Data Analytics
• Organizational Culture
• Communication through storytelling
• Innovation
• Team Dynamics
• Current Trends around organizational leadership
Call to Action
Subscribe to this channel to get immediate insights and solutions to the burning problems facing as an organizational leader and citizen. Also, click here to watch our introduction video.
Just because we are laughing does not mean we are not taking things seriously.
#leadership #sensemaking #podcast




















