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Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Curt Bramble, former Utah state senatorHappy Valentine’s Day. We’re halfway through the session, it’s Presidents' Day weekend, and it’s the anniversary of Utah women’s right to vote. U.S. House approves the SAVE America Act as GOP makes election bill pushUtah Reps. Kennedy, Moore, Maloy, and Owens all voted in favor.Sen. Mike Lee has 49 votes so far in the Senate.UTAH LEGISLATUREUtah lawmaker proposes HB 392, Unlicensed Driver Amendments, heads to the Senate. As described by HB 136 sponsor Rep. Matt MacPherson, R-West Valley City, the bill is aimed at addressing the rising number of crashes caused by unlicensed drivers.Utah wants to remove marriage tax penalties. New bill would limit tax credits for unmarried individuals in an attempt to incentivize marriage. Tax penalties present an obstacle to married households, which threatens the best foundation for kids to have good life outcomes, according to Rep. Melissa Ballard, R-North Salt Lake. Should Utah third graders struggling with reading be held back a year? ‘Constitutional court’ three-judge panel bill takes on new amendments. Utah’s digital ID program, “digital bill of rights,” could lead the nation in privacy framework. Utah forces Chinese company to sell motorsports park in Tooele County.SIGNATURE GATHERING WINS AND LOSSES• Ben McAdams says he is the first to get the needed 7,000 signatures to make it on the ballot.• Prop 4 repeal signature gathering in 11th hour. Signatures must be turned in by Sunday, Feb. 15.• Salt Lake County tax referendum fails.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host: Heidi HatchGuests:Maura Carabello, Exoro GroupRob Axson, Utah GOP ChairNEW FEDERAL REDISTRICTING LAWSUITA new federal lawsuit has been filed by Congressmen Burgess Owens and Celeste Maloy, along with other elected officials, challenging Utah’s redistricting process. “Today we took action. I, along with elected officials throughout our state, filed a federal lawsuit to defend the constitutional process by which Utah chooses its representatives. We can’t just sit idly by as our representative government is weakened. This lawsuit exists to restore proper constitutional balance.”— Rep. Celeste Maloy More information on the case: Powers-Gardner v. Henderson Related developments with the lawsuit filed with the Utah Supreme Court:Utah Legislature asks the Utah Supreme Court to stay the redistricting rulingUtah County Clerk requests to join the case PROP 4 REPEAL: FINAL DAYS9 days remain in the Proposition 4 repeal signature-gathering effort, which officially ends Sunday, February 15.Signatures currently verified and submitted to the Lieutenant Governor’s Office: 52%Is a large final submission still coming? Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson offers insightGrowing controversy surrounding the effort, including accusations of assaults on signature gatherers and complaints from voters who say they did not understand what they were signing SIGNATURE GATHERING CONTROVERSYBetter Boundaries announces a targeted signature removal campaign following reports of deceptive signature-gathering practices related to the repeal of Utah’s anti-gerrymandering law. Better Boundaries says voters were misled by signature gatherers- our Take 2 guests argue this isn’t really an argumentUtah County Attorney confirms a criminal investigation into potential signature-gathering fraudUtah County Clerk Aaron Davidson flagged approximately 300 signatures SAVE AMERICA ACTThe U.S. House is expected to vote next week on Sen. Mike Lee’s SAVE America Act, introduced with Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas).The bill would require proof of citizenship to voteMeasures include photo ID requirements and documentation compliant with REAL ID standardsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz; Maura Carabello, Exoro GroupTax Cuts & Budget CutsUtah lawmakers advanced SB60, the proposed cut would reduce tax rates from 4.5% to 4.45%Opponents argue that the reduction could be better allocated amid a projected $300 million revenue loss Utah MajorityFamily-focused legislationThe House Majority Caucus has made cost-of-living and strong families a priority for this session Utah Gas PricesCurrently, Utah has a $0.385 tax rate per gallon for motor fuel sold at gas pumps in the state, but has an exemption for fuel exported out of state.A draft bill is still in the works that would reassess the state’s gas tax structure Refineries produce up to 220,000 barrels a day, but about 75,000 of those are shipped out of state to meet demand elsewhere in the West, pushing our prices higher here at home. As of late January 2026, Utah's average gas prices for regular unleaded are around $2.68 per gallon  Idaho Legislature is fighting Mad over Utah LegislationsIdaho House speaker calls Utah House Speaker's plan “Bull manure”, and Speaker Schultz had some choice words in return https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2026/legislation/HJM012.pdf Sentencing CommissionThe Speaker is sponsoring HB 274 to reconfigure the sentencing commission.HB274, sponsored by House Speaker Mike Schultz, R-Hooper, would change the makeup of the Utah Sentencing Commission by removing all defense lawyers from the commission and replacing them with more members from law enforcement. The Bar said it “strongly” opposes the bill because it “politicizes” the commission by restructuring it in a way that “favors law enforcement and partisan viewpoints.” https://le.utah.gov/~2026/bills/static/HB0274.html Utah won a $30 million bid for US Magnesium’s land, water rights, and mining agreements on Tuesday as part of a wider strategy to refill the shrinking Great Salt LakeUtah purchased US Magnesium’s land, water rights, and mining agreements for $30 million to helpUS Magnesium filed for bankruptcy in 2025, halting magnesium production.Gov. Spencer Cox and Department of Natural Resources Director Joel Ferry say the move is critical for long-term lake health and air quality Where is Utah’s Appeal to the Supreme Court on Redistricting?Signature-gathering status: Will they need a miracle to get to the magic number by Feb. 14?When it comes to redistricting, most Utah voters do not believe the state legislature should be solely responsible for the district boundaries because it favors the party in powerSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Nic Dunn, Sutherland Institute Governor Spencer Cox — State of the State Polling: Deseret News / Hinckley InstituteOne-third of Utah voters say affordable housing should be the Legislature’s top priority.Housing ranked twice as high as any other issue across all partisan and age groups.Utah Legislature's approval rating sits at 47% overall Possible ICE Detention Center in Salt Lake CountyWest-side Salt Lake City warehouse rumored as potential siteLocal city and county leaders appeared caught off guard, despite ICE’s two-year search for detention space statewide Legislative Session UpdatesUtah Senate votes to expand the Utah Supreme Court from five to seven justicesSen. Nate Blouin’s ICE opt-out bill declared dead on arrival, killed in committeeBills to watch heading into Friday’s legislative deadline BLM Approves Updated Northern Corridor Highway PlanFederal approval clears the way after years of debate and environmental review Senator Mike Lee's Social Media Post Makes HeadlinesReaction and political fallout discussed Prop. 4 Repeal EffortScott Presler returns to Utah for a second weekend of signature gathering to repeal Proposition 4 Coming Up Next WeekUtah House Speaker Mike Schultz joins Take 2 PodcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 Podcast 1/19/26Host: Heidi HatchGuests: State Sen. Jen Plumb, MD, State Rep. Ryan WilcoxMLK Day of Service highlights as the Utah legislative session beginsLawmakers kick off the session with a blood driveMinnesota facing growing tension amid an ICE surgeSen. Nate Blouin introduces a bill to block ICE from entering churches and hospitals and to ban agents from wearing masksUtah ICE detention center has been in planning for nearly two years, dating back to the Biden administrationTrump’s “one big, beautiful bill” and tightening budgets loom over legislative sessions across the West, reporting from Brigham TomcoUtah State School Board asked to cut $300 million, about 5% of its budgetBill filed to expand Utah Supreme Court justices from five to sevenU.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on state bans of transgender athletes in girls’ sportsConservative organizer Scott Presler in Utah gathering signatures to repeal Proposition 4See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 Podcast — Friday, Jan. 9, 2026Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; John Dougall, Former State AuditorHappy New Year and America’s 250th anniversary year. 8 people shot, 2 killed outside LDS church in Salt Lake City neighborhood Nationwide protests after fatal ICE agent shooting in Minneapolis Newly elected municipal leaders sworn in Utah Political Updates Filing deadlines and racesThe filing deadline has come and gone.Rob Bishop is running for a seat after Utah Rep. Matthew Gwynn announced he will not seek re-election.Former Provo Mayor Kaufusi is running for county commission.GOP Rep. Trevor Lee faces a challenge from Davis County Commissioner Bob Stevenson in House District 16.Three Republican candidates have filed to challenge Utah Senate President Stuart Adams in Senate District 7.Sen. Dan McCay announced his re-election bid while Rep. Doug Fiefia filed to challenge him.Sen. Nate Blouin is running for Congress. Four Democrats have filed: Richard T. Whitney, Silvia Caten, Evan Done and Taylor J. Paden, with Colin Smith also in the mix.County clerk challenge in Utah County: incumbent Aaron Davidson vs. newcomer Corey Astille. Legal & LegislativeThe Utah Legislature filed a notice to appeal Utah’s redistricting case with the Utah Supreme Court, seeking to keep the old maps in place.Congressional filing deadline is March. Another Democrat joined the congressional race, bringing the total to 10 listed on Ballotpedia, with Liban Mohamed as number 10.A state school board member announced she won’t seek re-election, citing what she called a “corrupt” system.GOP priorities for the legislative session include a bill to ban cell phone use in schools from bell to bell.National & InternationalICE fatal shooting in Minnesota has led to nationwide protests, including in Salt Lake City.Nicolas Maduro captured (mention/source not verified in these notes — check if needed).Iran protests and internet shutdown.Trump administration weighing payments to Greenlanders to encourage closer ties with the U.S.Trump said his global power was limited only by his ‘own morality.’New York Times interview: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/briefing/trump-interview-oval-office-apple-ceo.html?smid=url-shareSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

HOST: Heidi HatchGUESTS: Maura Carabello Exoro Group, Rep Ryan WilcoxProp 4 is moving closer to the ballot as organizers report tens of thousands of signatures submitted to county clerks, even as another major policy fight begins to take shape. A newly filed effort to challenge Salt Lake County’s tax increase is now racing against a tight signature-gathering deadline, adding urgency to an already crowded political landscape. At the same time, unresolved court questions surrounding Prop 4 are keeping key decisions in limbo.Did you catch the Variety White House Expose?https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-susie-wiles-interview-exclusive-part-1?srsltid=AfmBOopKq4pM-ka2qo47Cc-_KgQd8ZemDcDLj8JIfkSPGgD6Yg2yglP7 Salt Lake County Tax ReferendumGoud Maragani and others applied for the referendum on Monday, which if approved by clerk's office, gives them a chance to put the increase on next year's ballot.They would need to get about 45,000 handwritten signatures in 45 days. They are using volunteers. Prop 4 Signature Gathering Rob Axson Utah GOP Chair reports an estimated 75k valid signatures gathered – first signatures turned in a week ago to county clerks. Few Hundred paid gatherers- majority local Utah hires Latest on Prop 4 Case appeal In new court filings, the legislature is asking Third District Judge Dianna Gibson to issue a final judgment in the case so they can appeal it to the Utah Supreme Court, which the plaintiffs and Gibson say she can’t do yet because of unresolved claims. 3 Governors Take the Stage together 3 Utah governors say the country ‘desperately needs more of Utah’ ... in the White House? https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/3-utah-governors-country-desperately-030000599.html Bridger Bolinder A leader in Utah’s House Republican caucus says he will not seek reelection next year, citing other commitments and responsibilities that require his attention.House Majority Assistant Whip Bridger Bolinder, R-Grantsville, announced the decision this week. Bolinder was elected by his House colleagues to a leadership role over the summer, becoming one of the newest GOP leaders on Capitol Hill.“Serving in the Utah House of Representatives has truly been the honor of a lifetime,” Bolinder said in a post on Instagram. “Representing the people of Tooele, Juab and Millard counties has meant more to me than I can put into words.” Political and Religious Violence Brown University Shooting/MIT Professor Shooting – person of interest found dead Salem New Hampshire2 Students killed, 9 critically injuredMIT professor shot and killed at homeBondi Beach ShootingOn Dec. 14, a mass shooting during a Hanukkah celebration on Sydney’s Bondi Beach killed 15 people, including a child, and injured dozens. Australian authorities said two gunmen linked to the Islamic State opened fire on a crowd of about 1,000 people, with police killing one suspect and arresting the other, who was critically injured. Police later removed two homemade bombs from a car connected to the attackers. Trump Gave himself a year in review in primetime address.Border closedPeaced Deal Gaza/IsraelEconomy is awesome (Many would debate this) Utah Year in Review Charlie Kirk shooting and Utah Congressional Maps biggest stories of the year New Year New Documentary: Melania  Exclusively in theaters Jan 30https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/2001266577077837917?s=20“Hi, Mr. President, congratulations,” Melania Trump says on the phone, speaking from a golden bathroom in the first trailer for “Melania,” Amazon MGM Studio‘s upcoming documentary about the First Lady.“Did you watch it?” Donald Trump asks on the other end of the call.“I did not, I will see it on the news,” she replies. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Nic Dunn, VP of Strategy, Sutherland InstituteSalt Lake County Approves Property Tax IncreaseThe Salt Lake County Council voted Tuesday night to approve a property tax increase of around 14%, lower than the originally proposed increase of nearly 20%.Special Session: Gov. Cox Signs 3 BillsRepeals the new law that stripped power from public labor unionsChanges the filing deadlines for Utah’s 2026 congressional racesClarifies the exclusive and original appellate jurisdiction of the Utah Supreme CourtLegislative Audits: District Attorney, Police and Criminal Justice SystemSalt Lake County District Attorney AuditSalt Lake City Police Department AuditWelfare ReformNic Dunn returns from meetings in Washington, D.C.Work disincentives built into the current systemUtah as a national leader due to:Health Care: Dueling Senate Bills FailAs the deadline approaches for expiring enhanced ACA subsidies, the Senate rejected:University of Utah Athletics: Private Equity DealUniversity of Utah unveils plan for a private equity partnershipOtro Capital would become a minority owner in Utah Brands & EntertainmentNCAA President warns schools to use caution with new forms of athletic equity financingPublic Lands Group Files Lawsuit Over New National Parks Pass Featuring Former President Donald TrumpSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Utah GOP has raised over $4 million to repeal Proposition 4. The money is being donated by 501(c)(4) out of MA Signatures gathered- Rob Axson Utah GOP Chair reports healthy pace (tens of thousands) and growing momentum. None turned in yet.           Utah GOP filed for a stay, no ruling yet Sutherland Institute Survey: Utah voters think elected officials, not judges, should choose congressional maps https://sutherlandinstitute.org/utah-redisticting-survey/ Do voters agree or disagree with the court-driven process produced by proponents of Proposition 4? Sutherland Institute recently commissioned Y2 Analytics to conduct a survey of Utah voters to investigate this question. By a 63-point margin, Utah voters believe that the policymakers they elect should be making redistricting decisions over judges. A full 71% of Utah voters say that an elected body or elected official at the state or county levels ought to have primary responsibility to decide congressional maps, compared to 8% who say judges should be primarily responsible. A plurality of Utah voters say that a body elected by the people (e.g., the Utah Legislature or county council) should be making redistricting decisions, while 21% of voters say it should be a state-level elected official (e.g., the governor), and 15% say it should be a county-level elected official (e,g., a county mayor).  5 Democratic Candidates in the D1 2025 Race State Sen. Nate Blouin announced his candidacy Nov. 24- now backed by BernieNewcomer Luis Villarreal entered the race1st in Sen. Kathleen RiebeFormer congressman Ben McAdamsFormer state Sen. Derek Kitchen. REP. VERONA MAUGA looking to pass gun law change in upcoming session after shooting of Afa Ah Loo at No Kings ProtestDrafting bill to keep long guns off the streets during protestsManslaughter charges filed this week against the “peace keeper”            Cox proposes $30.7B budget with funding for homeless campus, child tax creditsGov. Spencer Cox proposes a $30.7 billion budget prioritizing literacy, a homeless campus and child tax credits.The budget includes $20 million for reading support and $25 million for a homeless campus in Salt Lake City.Cox's proposal also allocates funds for school safety, technical colleges and outdoor recreation.fund a literacy public awareness campaign and invest tens of millions in "paraprofessionals" to help teachers give an extra hand to young students who are falling behind. That would include $20 million for reading support in elementary schools that fall below the statewide proficiency benchmark of 70% of third graders reading at grade level. How the Trump administration could make or break Utah Gov. Cox’s budget prioritiesTrump tax bill leads to projected $300 million decrease in state income tax revenue.Gov. Cox prioritizes $25 million in budget to finish construction of homeless campus.Cox not proposing income tax cuts like the ones he supported for five years in a row. https://governor.utah.gov/press/gov-cox-releases-fy-2027-budget-proposal-focused-on-responsible-fiscal-management-strong-families-and-long-term-prosperity/    Rep. Blake Moore joins Pres. Trump to celebrate Michael and Susan Dell’s $6.25B investment in Trump Accounts Congressman Blake Moore joined President Trump at the White House to celebrate Michael and Susan Dell’s monumental $6.25 billion investment in Trump Accounts for children. Congressman Moore introduced legislation in the House to establish these investment accounts, which was passed and signed into law as part of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act on July 4th, 2025. U.S. pauses immigration applications from 19 countries after two National Guard members shot in DCSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Heidi Hatch | Maura Carabello, Exoro Group | Curt Bramble, former state senator• Speaker Mike Schultz on redistricting rulingSays Judge Gibson’s late decision blocked any chance for an emergency appeal; calls timing “wrong” and says it cut the Legislature out of the court process.• Rep. Burgess Owens letterAccuses judge of overstepping and “imposing an outcome never chosen by the people.”• Redistricting history with Curt BrambleUtah missed a fourth seat by 856 people after the 2000 Census; Bramble helped draw the first four-district map.• New map creates a safe blue districtRepublicans now competing for three GOP seats; questions around whether 74-year-old Owens will retire.• Candidates for Utah’s new Democratic districtDerek Kitchen joins Ben McAdams and Kathleen Riebe.Others considering: Caroline Gleich, Kael Weston, Nate Blouin.• Trump backs release of Epstein filesBill requires AG to release unclassified DOJ records within 30 days, including names of officials and entities tied to Epstein.• Utah birthrate continues to fallMost counties still above replacement level, but two-thirds saw declines; shifts peak childbearing to ages 25–29.• Juvenile aggravated murder billWould allow judges to send offenders convicted as adults directly to prison instead of secure care.• Brigham City nuclear project$750M investment under Gov. Cox’s “Operation Gigawatt,” creating Utah’s first full-scale nuclear ecosystem.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

KUTV TAKE 2 PODCAST Nov 14, 2025 Late-Night Ruling, Utah’s New Blue District, and the End of the ShutdownGuests: Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair | Rep. Doug OwensNew Maps: Judge Gibson throws out Map C and approves Map 1 — minutes before the deadline.Blue District: New 1st District leans D+14, putting a GOP-held seat in play.Appeal Uncertain: Cox supports appealing, but none filed yet.Prop 4 Fight: GOP ballot initiative to repeal the independent redistricting law underway UFRG.orgWho Draws the Lines? Debate over legislative authority vs. judicial oversight.Democrats Jump In: McAdams running; Riebe challenging; Blouin a possible contender.Impeachment Talk: Rep. MacPherson drafting a bill to impeach the judge.Shutdown Ends: Trump signs funding bill; agencies reopen; ACA tax credits could spark the next battle.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 Podcast – Friday, Nov. 7 | 2:30 p.m.Heidi Hatch with South Jordan Mayor Dawn Ramsey & Exoro Group’s Maura CarabelloUtah PrimariesTurnout: 30% statewide (Piute 63%, Salt Lake 23%)Tight mayoral races across the Wasatch FrontUtah County incumbents trailing Provo Mayor concedesCottonwood Heights: Mike Weichers concedes to Gay Lynn Bennion (57%-42%)Salt Lake City Council unchangedSouthern Utah new Mayors Government ShutdownFAA cutting flights 10%, Salt Lake Intl. among 40 airports hitJudge orders Trump to fund SNAP; Utah missed first payments Nov. 6Utah Senate Democrats push to cover SNAP benefitsPolitics & RedistrictingUtah’s new congressional map expected next weekBen McAdams likely to announce run after approvalUtah GOP holding hearings on redistricting repeal (Nov. 3 & 10) Davis County TaxesProperty tax hike trimmed from 30% to 15% Salt Lake County CouncilGOP members vote to cut childcare at rec centers and senior center to cut budget  National Election 2025Democrats sweep key races in NY, VA, NJModerates win VA & NJ governorshipsSocialist Zohran Mamdani wins NYC mayor race over Andrew CuomoCalifornia voters approve Prop 50, allowing new redistrictingYoung voters, women key blocks heading into 2026 midtermsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Utah faces mounting strain as the government shutdown hits day 29 — SNAP funding runs out, tax hikes loom, and homelessness policy shifts under new leadership. We break down the political standoff, the stakes for Utah families, and how state and local leaders are responding.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On day 22 of the government shutdown, Utah Sen. John Curtis sat down with Heidi Hatch to share why he believes the stalemate was “pre-determined,” driven by partisan politics.Before the interview, Curtis voted for the 12th time to reopen the government with a continuing resolution that failed 54-46, falling short of the 60 votes needed to advance. Three Democrats voted with Republicans, but no additional Democrats crossed the aisle.At 22 days, the shutdown is now the second-longest funding lapse in modern history, surpassed only by the 35-day shutdown in late 2018 and early 2019.Curtis said a short-term continuing resolution may be necessary to get the government reopened, but it’s not a long-term solution.“It doesn’t make sense to keep the government closed when the very people we’re trying to help with high premiums are also the ones losing SNAP benefits,” he said.He noted that since 1974, Congress has only passed a budget on time four times, often relying on continuing resolutions or shutdowns that end in massive omnibus spending bills. Curtis is pushing a new approach modeled after Utah’s baseline budget system, where prior-year funding automatically carries over until new appropriations are passed.“Instead of a shutdown, an omnibus, or a CR, we’d simply stay on the previous appropriation,” he said, calling it a plan that promotes fiscal responsibility.Still, Curtis said Washington has grown accustomed to crisis politics.“Both Republicans and Democrats are part of the problem,” he said. “It’s a fair accusation.”While he said he understands the frustration of families facing higher health premiums, Curtis believes tying those costs to shutdown negotiations is inappropriate.On federal subsidies, he added, “People like free things once we give them free things. It’s near impossible to undo that. Do people at 400% of poverty really need zero premium? Maybe they need some help, but certainly not zero premium — and yet, how do you take that back?”As the Senate remains gridlocked and the House out of session, Curtis warned the shutdown could last “a long time” unless public pressure builds. He outlined potential off-ramps and pointed to his own proposals — such as a baseline budget bill and an automatic spending cut plan — as ways to prevent future shutdowns.Hatch also asked Curtis about rising beef prices and President Trump’s plan to import beef from Argentina, pressing whether the move could help or hurt Utah ranchers.Curtis also discusses his new bill on forest fire mitigation, the East Wing Ballroom renovation, energy prices, and the future of energy in Utah.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 Podcast – October 16, 2025Host: Heidi HatchGuests: Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz and Rep. Doug OwensEpisode Rundown:Holy War Weekend: BYU and Utah face off again, but let’s keep the rivalry friendly — not a real war.Politics and Polarization: Noble Analytics polling shows rising concern about political violence. Is that tension spilling over into sports and daily life?Prop 4 Battle: The Utah GOP moves to overturn the voter-approved independent redistricting measure, reigniting debate over fair maps and political power.Judicial Appointments: The public comment period opens for Utah’s newest judicial nominee.Government Shutdown: The standoff drags on in Washington as healthcare subsidies remain the sticking point.Middle East Update: President Trump returns from a historic peace deal signing in Israel.Utah Legislature: Lawmakers discuss new funding for career and technical education programs.Gas Prices: A proposed tax exemption change could save Utah drivers 10 to 20 cents a gallon.🎧 Stream the full episode wherever you get your podcasts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 Podcast – October 9, 2025Hosts: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Trent Staggs, Riverton Mayor and Small Business Administrator_____ISRAEL–HAMAS PEACE DEAL MOVES FORWARDPresident Donald Trump announced that Israel and Hamas have agreed on the first phase of a peace framework that would allow for the swift release of all hostages.Still missing from the plan are key details on Hamas’s disarmament and who will govern Gaza once the deal moves ahead. Those issues are expected to be part of later negotiations._____GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN – DAY 9The federal government shutdown has entered its ninth day, with Affordable Care Act subsidies still a sticking point for Democrats.Republicans have centered their messaging around health care for migrants, pushing for limits on taxpayer-funded benefits.In Utah, undocumented migrants can access emergency medical care, and some coverage is available for children._____NEW NUMBERS – UTAH RANKS 3RD IN MIGRANT ARRIVALSSalt Lake City is now one of the nation’s fastest-growing destinations for migrants, according to new data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.Between May 2023 and January 2025, nearly 2.5 million migrants who entered the U.S. — either illegally or through legal protection under the CBP One app — reported where they planned to live.Miami led with 2,191 arrivals per 100,000 residents, followed by Fort Myers, Florida, at 1,782. Salt Lake City ranked third with 1,685, just ahead of Denver and New York.AP Source_____NEW ICE DIRECTOR – AGREEMENTS WITH UTAH CITIES AND COUNTIESThe new ICE director is expanding partnerships with Utah law enforcement under three models:Task Force Model – Local officers working directly with federal agents.Jail Enforcement Model – ICE cooperation within county jails.Warrant Service Officer Model – Deputized officers allowed to serve immigration-related warrants._____UTAH SPECIAL SESSIONLawmakers passed and the governor signed Map C, the new congressional redistricting plan. The map now heads to a judge for approval.With the new boundaries, Utah could see as many as two competitive races in the 2026 election cycle.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hosts: Heidi Hatch, Scott Howell (former Utah Senate Minority Leader), John Dougal, Esq.Note: Scott Howell joined late after being held up in a meeting at the State Capitol.Topics This Week:The death of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints President Russell M. Nelson, with President Dallin H. Oaks next in line. Will a change in leadership shape Utah policy, and has it in the past?The church responds to injuries and a death following a shooting and fire at the Grand Blanc meetinghouse.Turning Point USA continues its campus tour with a stop at Utah State University, just three weeks after the death of Charlie Kirk.Day two of the government shutdown, including discussion around the Department of Defense and war meetings.Utah redistricting maps gain backing from both parties.Sen. Dan McCay says he will not run for re-election if his wife wins the Riverton mayoral race.Opinions Featured:Free speech belongs to all Americans — not just to Charlie Kirk by Scott HowellRead hereLessons from Middle Earth — the danger of unchecked power by John DougalRead hereComing Up:Riverton Mayor Trent Staggs joins next weekUtah House Speaker Mike Schultz on Oct. 16See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 PodcastThursday, Sept. 25, 2025Guests: Heidi Hatch, Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Sen. Daniel McCayRedistricting New MapsPublic comment period runs for 10 days, through Oct. 5Feedback can be submitted at redistricting.utah.govSpecial session scheduled for Oct. 6 to vote on the new mapFinal maps will be submitted to the courts for approval Great Salt Lake Water WoesGov. Spencer Cox launches GSL 2034, a public-private charter urging all Utahns to help restore the lakeComes with a $200 million pledge, half already committed by Ducks Unlimited over 10 yearsNew philanthropic coalition Great Salt Lake Rising aims to raise an additional $100 million within a year, led by Josh RomneyCox wants lake elevation back to 4,198 feet by the 2034 Winter Olympics (currently at 4,191 feet) Charlie Kirk Monument at UVUPetition supporting memorial: 20,000 signaturesPetition opposing memorial: 13,000 signaturesUVU announced creation of a Memorial Committee, co-chaired by Scott M. Smith (UVU Board of Trustees, Qualtrics co-founder) and Amanda Covington (Utah Board of Higher Education chair)Committee will include students, political leaders, and other stakeholders USU Turning Point Event – Tuesday, Sept. 30Featured guests: Gov. Spencer Cox, Sen. Mike Lee, Former Rep. Jason ChaffetzSome surprise at Cox’s participation after past criticism from Charlie Kirk in 2022Still unclear if the format will be a panel or Q&A Sutherland Institute TransitionRick Larsen to step down as CEO on Jan. 1, 2026, and become president emeritus One Week Out from Possible Government ShutdownFederal government faces shutdown if Congress fails to pass spending bill by Oct. 1Republicans and Democrats remain divided, particularly over extending enhanced ACA premium subsidiesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hosted by Heidi Hatch with guests Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group and Utah GOP Chair Rob AxsonOn this week’s Take 2 Podcast, we look at the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk on the campus of Utah Valley University in Orem. Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson, a friend of Kirk, and Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group join the discussion on the political and emotional fallout one week later.Topics this week:Charlie Kirk assassination at UVUGeorge Zinn, known in political circles, diverted police attention and was arrested on child pornography charges22-year-old Tyler Robinson, the accused shooter, faces the death penaltyUtah released Robinson’s mugshot despite state law prohibiting itA Pennsylvania man was arrested in Utah after posting an online threat against UVUDebate over university security and whether DPS or local law enforcement should step inBusinesses and universities firing employees over online comments after the assassinationUtah’s special session pushed back to Oct. 6Utah Legislature releases list of lawmakers who will oversee redistrictingTwo weeks until Congress faces its budget deadlineSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Take 2 PodcastSeptember 4, 2025Hosts: Heidi HatchGuests: Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Liddy Huntsman (Salt Lake City Council Candidate, District 3)Episode Rundown: New 1,300-bed homeless services campusOpening in 2027 on a 16-acre parcel at 2520 North and 2200 West off I-215 in Salt Lake CityRoom to expand to 40 acres for a 50–100 year planCore services: recovery, employment, housing and criminal justice assistanceAnnual operations expected to cost more than $30 million$75 million needed for infrastructure, excluding land purchase Homelessness in Utah up 18%Children experiencing homelessness increased 12% (589 to 662)Seniors rose 42% (251 to 356)Veterans increased 36% (121 to 165)More than 10,000 Utahns experienced homelessness for the first time in 2024, a 5% riseSalt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall called the report a “battle cry” for the Legislature to provide more funding Redistricting and the 2026 midtermsJudge Dianna Gibson ruled current congressional maps unconstitutional and denied lawmakers’ request to pause her orderRuling restores the intent of Proposition 4, the independent redistricting commission voters approved in 2018Utah Republican Party Chairman Robert Axson called the decision “judicial activism” Congress back in sessionEpstein victims pressed lawmakers to release the full Justice Department investigation filesLooming Sept. 30 deadline for government funding raises threat of a shutdownA stopgap bill is likely, but Republicans need Democratic votes and Democrats are expected to push for concessionsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.