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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Dan Labbe and special guests on cleveland.com
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On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the latest NFL mock drafts and explore the very real possibility of the Browns trading down in the first
round.
Top experts like Todd McShay, Dane Brugler, Mel Kiper Jr. and even Ashley all had trade-down mocks come out on Wednesday.
What’s the common thread? They all predict the Browns trading down to the No. 12 spot with the Cowboys. They break down what this blockbuster move could look like, including the potential of acquiring future draft assets or even an extra first-round pick.
They also discuss which players the Browns might target if they make this move, from offensive tackles like Kadyn Proctor and Spencer Fano to dynamic playmakers like Kenyon Sadiq.
They also look back at Andrew Berry's unpredictable draft history to remind us that anything can happen on draft weekend.
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On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Browns GM Andrew Berry's annual pre-draft press conference.
What can we really expect to hear from Berry on Thursday?
They break down what they want to uncover, starting with the No. 6 overall pick. Could the Browns seriously consider drafting Notre Dame's generational dual-threat running back Jeremiyah Love?
They also reflect on last year's Travis Hunter misdirection to figure out how to read the tea leaves this time around.
Next, the discussion pivots to the wide receiver room. Does Berry truly believe Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman and Isaiah Bond will thrive in Todd Monken's new offense, or will he draft a premium wideout?
They also explore the possibility of trading the No. 6 pick for a proven, game-changing veteran receiver or even trading up for top-tier talent.
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Monday means a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.
With the NFL Draft less than two weeks away, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off by breaking down the Browns' upcoming voluntary bonus minicamp. They discuss what new head coach Todd Monken hopes to glean from these early practices, who might be in attendance and how Monken’s offensive philosophy could influence Andrew Berry’s draft strategy.
Then, they dive into questions from our Football Insider subscribers.
If the Browns stay at the No. 6 overall pick, what is the best play? They evaluate the offensive tackle landscape, the possibility of drafting a premier edge rusher like David Bailey and whether taking wide receiver Carnell Tate or running back Jeremiyah Love is a realistic option. They also explore what it would take for Andrew Berry to trade down to secure future draft capital.
Finally, the conversation heats up with a debate about the quarterback position, as Mary Kay defends her controversial stance on why taking a swing at QB Ty Simpson at No. 6 might be a risk worth taking.
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Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Host Dan Labbe is joined by Cleveland.com film analyst Lance Reisland, and Cleveland.com draft expert Tim Bielik as they open up the mailbag to answer your pressing Browns draft questions.
With the Browns holding the No. 6 overall pick, they debate a crucial roster-building philosophy: Do you draft to fill a glaring need, or do you take the best difference-maker available?
Reisland pounds the table for a "players over plays" mentality, making his case for drafting elite, field-tilting weapons like Jeremiyah Love or Caleb Downs. Meanwhile, Tim weighs the necessity of shoring up the offensive line with a tackle like Spencer Fano.
The trio discusses how new offensive coordinator Todd Monken's system will influence the front office to target explosive playmakers.
Later in the show, the crew explores under-the-radar Day 3 options. Could the Browns target a mid-round quarterback like Taylen Green or Haynes King just to run creative Wildcat packages?
Who are the best late-round return specialists to completely elevate the special teams unit?
Finally, Tim and Lance place their bets on whether Andrew Berry stays at No. 6 or trades down.
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On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from the Browns media room as they break down the latest from the team's offseason program.
In this episode, they get into the refreshing, no-nonsense approach of new head coach Todd Monken.
They discuss his blunt honesty regarding player attendance at voluntary workouts, exploring the ongoing debate around star pass rusher Myles Garrett's absence. They weigh the true importance of these spring sessions for building team camaraderie, learning new coaching schemes and setting a winning tone for the franchise.
The conversation also tackles the quarterback competition.
With the offensive installation underway, they talk about why mastering the playbook in the classroom is currently the most crucial step for Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders and potentially Dillon Gabriel.
Plus, hear the story of Monken's haircut "Snap Fu" that caused him to miss out on his very first NFL head coaches' group photo.
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On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the start of the Browns' offseason program. They break down exactly what to expect as players return to the facility this week.
The biggest storyline? The quarterback competition.
They discuss how Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson are approaching Todd Monken’s new offensive playbook from scratch and what it will take to win over the coaching staff.
Plus, they do their very first vibes check of the year.
How will Monken’s practice intensity, influenced by his time with John Harbaugh, change the feel of spring workouts compared to the Kevin Stefanski era?
They also talk pass catchers, keeping a close eye on Jerry Jeudy’s bounce-back potential and where young playmakers like Isaiah Bond fit into the early depth chart.
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It’s a Monday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe.
The Browns officially kick off their offseason program on Tuesday and Mary Kay and Dan dive into the biggest storylines surrounding the team as they head back to the facility.
The primary focus of this episode is the highly anticipated quarterback battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders.
Answering questions from our Football Insider subscribers, the duo explores some fascinating thought exercises: What happens if Watson returns to his Pro Bowl form, and would it even be financially possible for the Browns to extend his contract?
On the flip side, what would it mean for the franchise if Shedeur Sanders wins the starting job, and how will opposing defensive coordinators game plan for him now that there is tape out there?
They discuss Todd Monken's evaluation of the offense and why the team desperately needs to add at least two more premier playmakers.
Finally, the talk shifts to the NFL Draft. What would a home run trade look like if the Browns move down from the No. 6 pick? Mary Kay breaks down why acquiring 2027 draft capital might be the team's biggest priority.
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On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe wrap up the week by looking back at the key takeaways from the NFL owners meeting and gearing up for the start of the offseason program in Berea next week.
First, Mary Kay and Dan dive into Andrew Berry's intriguing comments regarding the team's No. 6 overall draft pick. Will the Browns trade back to gather more draft capital for next year, or could a surprise trade-up be in the works? They break down the likelihood of moving the pick and what scenarios could impact that ultimate decision.
Then, the focus shifts to the evolving quarterback competition. With Todd Monken installing his offense, they discuss how mobility will factor into the looming battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders.
They also examine the importance of Watson getting a head start by building chemistry with wide receivers like Jerry Jeudy down in Florida.
Finally, they cover why nobody should write off Dillon Gabriel, who will look to use his high processing speed and competitive drive to make some serious noise during the offseason.
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Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe is joined by Lance Reisland and Tim Bielik for their latest dive into their favorite prospects.
After sharing their dueling big boards last week, Lance and Tim are back to conduct a "My Guys" Draft. They each select five prospects they are absolutely pounding the table for the Browns to pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.
Forget typical draft constraints, this show is about the tape and the players our analysts love. Tim targets aggressive defenders like Indiana corner D’Angelo Ponds and explains why analytics point to certain wide receivers thriving against zone coverage.
Lance puts on his coaching hat to highlight violent trench warriors like Georgia Tech's Keylan Rutledge.
The guys also rapid-fire their favorite honorable mentions to keep an eye on during Day 3 and undrafted free agency.
Watch the full episode and follow along with the live draft board graphic on our YouTube channel. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, and follow Orange and Brown Talk on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Threads and Facebook.
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On the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot joins Dan Labbe for one final check-in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Before Mary Kay catches her flight back to Ohio, she breaks down everything we learned from Browns coach Todd Monken during his media breakfast.
The burning question on everyone's mind: What is the exact plan for the Browns' quarterback competition?
Mary Kay and Dan discuss Monken’s strong hints that Shedeur Sanders might get the first crack at QB1 reps over Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel. They also dive into why off-season face time with the new coaching staff is critical. While Shedeur has been a regular in the building, building a rapport, Watson has only met Monken once and Gabriel has yet to make an appearance.
With a completely new offensive scheme and a massive learning curve ahead this off-season, is the starting job truly up for grabs?
Plus, get the hilarious behind-the-scenes scoop on exactly why Todd Monken accidentally missed the annual NFL coaches' group photo.
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On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe, Mary Kay checks in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Dan and Mary Kay break down the latest updates directly from Jimmy Haslam regarding the Browns' highly anticipated quarterback competition.
They discuss Haslam's effusive praise for Deshaun Watson. Is the former "big swing and a miss" poised to finally be a home run for the Browns?
They discuss Watson's physical condition, his ongoing recovery from multiple Achilles surgeries and why he might currently have the inside track to be the starter on opening day.
They also talk about Shedeur Sanders' physical advantages, his renewed commitment to NFL excellence and the steep learning curve both quarterbacks face as they adapt to Todd Monken’s entirely new offensive scheme.
Will Watson's veteran experience provide the necessary mental edge, or will Sanders' youthful resilience win out?
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On the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot checks in from the NFL Annual Meeting in Phoenix to break down a very busy first day of news.
Mary Kay and Dan Labbe dive into Browns GM Andrew Berry’s availability, where he firmly shut down recent trade speculations surrounding superstar defensive end Myles Garrett. Berry purposefully called Garrett a "career Brown," and Mary Kay provides insight into why the front office remains fully committed to keeping their core championship-caliber defense intact.
Next, the conversation shifts to the quarterback room. Mary Kay unpacks the Browns' draft due diligence on developmental prospects like Ty Simpson and Garrett Nussmeier. Plus, they explore how the wide-open quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders might play out in new head coach Todd Monken’s system.
Finally, get a preview of what's to come later this week in Arizona, including Jimmy and Dee Haslam's upcoming availability and Todd Monken’s next opportunity to meet with the media.
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The Orange and Brown Talk podcast kicks off the 2026 NFL Draft season as Dan Labbe reunites the draft crew, Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland.
This episode features dueling big boards, where Tim and Lance go head-to-head, unveiling their Top 10 prospects in a back-and-forth format.
While both experts agree that Ohio State safety Caleb Downs is the consensus No. 1 player, the boards branch off from there.
The episode also includes the usual tangents: Should the Browns select the best player available if Downs falls to them at pick No. 6, or is it more critical to trade down and address significant offensive needs like left tackle and wide receiver?
They get into other top-tier talents, including versatile linebacker Arvell Reese, explosive playmaker Jeremiyah Love and top quarterback prospect Fernando Mendoza.
They break down the strengths and weaknesses of the premier offensive linemen and wide receivers in the class, comparing players like Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon, Francis Mauigoa, and Monroe Freeling.
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The Browns have been busy this offseason, completely remaking their offensive line. On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe welcomes Lance Reisland to break down all the moves.
Lance dives into the film on the new additions, including right tackle Tytus Howard, guard Zion Johnson and the versatile Elgton Jenkins.
They start by looking back at what went wrong with the line last season, from injuries and a lack of identity to the ongoing quest to replace Bill Callahan. Lance explains how this new group differs from the maulers of the past, focusing more on technique, leverage and savvy play rather than pure brute force. He discusses the importance of availability and how these new players bring a different, more functional approach to the trenches.
They discuss the impact of new offensive line coach George Warhop and why his veteran experience is crucial. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating who the Browns might target if they decide to take a tackle at pick No. 6 or a guard at No. 24.
(Please note: This episode was recorded before any decision was made by Joel Bitonio regarding his future.)
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On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the latest Browns buzz, including former receiver Jarvis Landry.
Landry's recent podcast comments about his time in Cleveland and former coach Kevin Stefanski have stirred up debate. Mary Kay provides context to the 2021 season and the dynamics in the building.
They also get into the upcoming NFL Draft.
With Ohio State continuing to produce elite receivers, should that success influence the Browns to draft Carnell Tate at No. 6? They discuss the increasing value of top-tier receivers on rookie contracts.
The draft talk naturally leads to the quarterback position. Should the Browns give Shedeur Sanders the starting job to see what they have, or could a prospect like Alabama's Ty Simpson be a surprise pick?
They break down the potential quarterback battle between Sanders and Deshaun Watson and what it means for the franchise moving forward.
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On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the second wave of the Browns' free agency moves.
Mary Kay runs down the list of recent additions, including defensive linemen Kalia Davis and A.J. Epenesa, and they analyzes what these depth signings signal about the team's overall strategy.
The discussion then shifts to the bigger picture. With a Super Bowl-caliber defense, are the Browns making a mistake by not being more aggressive to add offensive firepower?
They debate whether the team is being wisely pragmatic or potentially wasting a prime window. They explore the wide range of possible outcomes for the upcoming season, the impact of the salary cap and the front office's apparent shift to a draft-and-develop philosophy.
Finally, they break down the Browns' unique proposal to the NFL to allow teams to trade draft picks five years into the future. They discuss the NBA-style thinking behind the proposal and how it reflects Andrew Berry's progressive approach to team building.
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On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into four Browns questions.
Inspired by March Madness, they debate who would join Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward as the four No. 1 seeds in a 64-player roster bracket. Are the other top players established veterans or impressive rookies?
Next, they look into their crystal ball to predict which under-the-radar player will be a major topic of conversation by November. Could it be a speedy receiver or a versatile weapon?
They also analyzes the impact of free agency, discussing which departed or potentially departing players the Browns will miss the most.
Finally, they try to identify the next fan-favorite cult hero, searching for the player ready to capture the hearts of Browns fans.
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On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down their first impressions of the newest Browns after hearing from them in their introductory press conferences.
First, they dive into linebacker Quincy Williams. What did they make of his energetic cheetah mentality and his dynamic personality? They discuss how Williams, with a massive chip on his shoulder after a frustrating final year with the Jets, could thrive in Mike Rutenberg's defensive system. They explore if he could have a career revival similar to other veterans who have joined this defense.
Then, the focus shifts to the rebuilt offensive line and new right tackle Tytus Howard. Mary Kay was surprised by his high praise for rookie Shedeur Sanders, especially given his history blocking for Deshaun Watson during his best seasons. The hosts analyze what his comments mean for the quarterback room and discuss the leadership Howard and Elgton Jenkins will bring to this new line.
Finally, they look at the Browns' overall strategy of blending veteran experience with an exceptionally young roster before a tangent about a meteor and Bigfoot sightings in Northeast Ohio.
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The Browns hold the No. 6 pick in the NFL Draft, but their decision might not be as straightforward as it looks.
On this Hey Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe cover everything from the Browns’ NFL Draft, to quarterback plans and the offseason program.
Will Andrew Berry go offense or defense with the No. 6 pick? While a tackle or receiver seems like the logical choice, could a top-rated defensive player like Caleb Downs or Arvell Reese be too good to pass up?
They discuss the unpredictability of the Browns' front office and the very real possibility of trading down to acquire future assets, especially with an eye on next year's quarterback class.
The conversation then shifts to the revamped offensive line.
With Tytus Howard confirming he's the right tackle, what does the future hold for Dawand Jones?
They also break down the versatility of players like Elgton Jenkins and the ongoing questions at center and guard.
Plus, they get into the quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders, how Todd Monken will build his new scheme around his starter and why this year's offseason program is more critical than ever.
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The Browns introduced three of their free agent signings on Friday in Zoom calls with local reporters.
Linebacker Quincy Williams, guard/center Elgton Jenkins and guard Zion Johnson all answered questions from reporters.
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to edited versions of those press conferences, featuring the best of what the three had to say and more.
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this movie got me into the browns .