Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Caleb Flynn calls 911 at 2:30 a.m. on February 16, claiming a burglar has entered his Ohio home and shot his wife, Ashley Flynn, twice in the head. Flynn, a former music pastor, tells the dispatcher that he was not in the room at the time; he was with their daughters in their room, and they are still asleep. When Tipp City officers arrive, they find signs of an apparent forced entry. Ashley Flynn was a substitute teacher/volleyball coach and the mother of two daughters who will now grow up without her. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the Red Flags in the 911 call, as well as the story Caleb Flynn told. The story has garnered national headlines, as Caleb Flynn appeared on "American Idol" in 2013, making it to the "Hollywood Week" episode before being eliminated. Transcribe Highlights00:00.28 Introduction - musicians 03:58.90 American Idol contestant 08:07.72 Caleb Flynn did not get past Hollywood Week 12:51.13 Assessment by civilian 14:30.98 Audio from 911 call  15:25.21 Says she has been shot twice in the head 20:41.49 Head injuries have a lot of blood 25:17.12 Garage door open 30:21.52 How does suspect get into the home 35:12.47 Who is up next on the call sheet 40:02.58 Defense attorney says he is "disappointed and concerned" 45:04.86 Range of Fire 46:21.24 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a tale of two sisters, Karen and Debra. Karen is loving, responsible, and well-liked by all who know her. She lived with and cared for her parents until they lost their battles with Alzheimer's and cancer. Karen also took care of her finances and was financially well-off for retirement. Debra was gone for decades, living several states away in Louisiana. She never held a steady job and never had any money. When their parents died, Debra moved back to Florida, with no money and no place to stay, and Karen let her sister move into her home. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the story of how the evil sister murdered the good sister with a bullet to the chest, wrapped her body in a trash bag, and buried her in a hole in the backyard. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.15 Introduction  02:10.97 Victim loves working in her yard 05:06.55 Two sisters, Karen and Debra 08:25.53 Debra comes back after parents die 12:14.34 Perp keeping victim close after death 16:55.11 Seeing a hole in the yard 20:57.88 Odor of decomposing body 25:33.91 Bad smell doesn't mean something is there 29:48.57 Very careful digging to not miss anything 35:07.70 Everything goes to the lab 40:27.15 Karen has one GSW to the chest 44:43.54 Debra claims she is "blameless" 45:28.45 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 2: The Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case has sparked national interest as the days continue to add up. As of today, Nancy Guthrie has been missing 25 days. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack look at the forensic evidence left behind inside the house as well as articles of evidence found by local citizens trying to help find the 84-year-old mother of Today Show Co-Host, Savannah Guthrie.              Transcribe Highlights00:00.07 Introduction Guthrie Part 2 02:22.10 DNA Profile didn't get hit in CODIS 07:43.42 DNA Profile in feces in a dry toilet 11:31.21 Getting a sample 15:53.69 What is "touch" DNA 20:07.83 Trying to understand movements of suspect and victim 24:58.58 Too many people involved 30:46.46 Tucson Couple finds bloody glove near scene 35:18.30 FBI did not respond as quickly as hoped 40:08.54 Reason agents leak talent contract terms 41:19.73 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, was last seen January 31, 2026 around 9:47pm. The next day around noon, Nancy Guthrie is reported missing. More than three weeks later she is still missing. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the forensic evidence left behind and how it has been treated by officials on the ground in an attempt to uncover the one piece of evidence that will bring Nancy Guthrie home.             Transcribe Highlights 00:02.33 Introduction - Security 01:07.26 Securing a Crime Scene 03:59.01 Nancy Guthrie - Why her? 08:44.60 Sheriff's department turned scene released back to the family 13:57.53 Comparing Heuermann home 19:46.55 Blood on the ground 25:08.12 Direction blood takes investigator 29:53.66 Blood with a bubble like appearance 35:02.04 2:28am at least 20 feet away from Apple watch 40:18.20 Foot step making impression on floor 45:30.29 How often is Guthrie home cleaned? 47:41.59 Conclusion Part OneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Elmira Police Department named Alfred Raymond Murray Jr. as the lone suspect in the 1964 murder of 12-year-old Mary Simpson. The case remained unsolved for 62 years, but it was never forgotten. After getting a grant from the Season of Justice in 2022, Elmira police, with the assistance of the FBI, reopened the case using modern forensic methods. In 2023, the Elmira Police Department partnered with the Criminal Investigation Resource Center at Russell Sage College, and the case was organized and digitized, allowing for a review of evidence and forensics. Forensic evidence from the case was sent to Othram's laboratory in the Woodlands, Texas, where scientists were able to build a comprehensive DNA profile of the unknown suspect. The profile was used by the FBI's forensic genetic genealogy team, and working together with the Elmira Police Department, investigators found the suspect, Alfred Raymond Murray Jr. Murray died on March 16, 2004, at the age of 73, almost 40 years to the day. Mary Simpson vanished on  March 15, 1964. She was 12. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.00 Introduction Update Mary Simpson  05:12.41 Finding identity of killer 10:00.17 A rookie cop in 1964 would be in his/her 80s now 15:00.91 Community was looking for Mary Simpson, 12 20:03.67 Killer shoved dirt in Mary's mouth 25:04.15 Predator will stand over victim  30:40.23 Othram did genetic genealogy 31:37.91 Murray may have been responsible for multiple sexual assaults on children for years 34:57.02 Mary's body covered in rocks and dirt, choked to death 37:02.08 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The King County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Kurt Cobain's death on April 5, 1994, was the result of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. In the last 30 plus years many theories of what "really" happened have appeared in books and documentaries but now comes a team of independent forensic scientists who are calling for a fresh investigation into the death of the 27-year-old. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the investigation into the death of Kurt Cobain, was it self-inflicted as originally thought, or did someone get away with murder.               Transcribe Highlights00:00.00 Introduction 01:54.87 Kurt Cobain death - study claims homicide 07:15.49 Grunge movement 10:06.79 The 27 Club 15:05.10 Working the Guthrie Kidnapping 20:16.32 Cobain had recent NPW  24:56.30 Drug abuse deaths are shocking 30:27.27 Cobain is in garage apartment, by himself 35:10.51 Checking mouth during autopsy - evidence of fouling, no stippling 40:17.50 Tolerance of the user is part of the discussion 45:27.40 Study is peer reviewed - International Journal of Forensic Science 50:08.25 Lungs become very heavy 53:57.93 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

More information has been dropped on the Jeffrey Epstein files and two things are taking center stage: 1. The autopsy and 2. New Mexico Ranch. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the autopsy and the ranch in New Mexico. Professor Morgan explains what happens when an autopsy is being observed by another professional such as Dr Michael Baden and what the "facts" determined during the autopsy mean regarding homicide or suicide.              Transcribe Highlights00:00.00 Introduction Epstein 03:07.94 More info keeps dropping 07:12.66 New focus on New Mexico ranch 12:20.59 Epstein worth $577 million 17:15.13 Michael Baden an observer at Epstein autopsy 22:55.99 Baden would have been taking notes 28:04.65 Epstein death more consistent with homicide 34:24.21 The furrow is very high on the neck 39:31.13 Impact injury below shoulder 43:49.58 After Autopsy it was agreed more info was needed 48:02.68 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 17, at 5:13 a.m., Molly Hubbard called 911 to report a man on fire in the street. During the 911 call, a man can be heard in the background moaning while Hubbard shouts at him to "drop and roll." Then, the line disconnected. Police and EMS arrive on the scene and find Ryan Crawford suffering from severe burns to his face, arms, legs, and backside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the story told to 911. and the story told by the forensics to explain why Molly Hubbard was arrested and charged with murder. Transcribe Highlights00:05.21 Introduction - Wichita 04:02.49 Death in the middle of a theft 09:05.35 May have given Crawford something to calm him down 14:42.20 Molly Hubbard left scene 20:03.02 Death with fire is complex 25:16.54 Electrocution victim, one small point of entry 30:26.37 Story lacks credibility 35:34.81 Degree of burns 40:21.14 Burn victims body swell, requires splitting 45:14.94 Molly Hubbard sold scrap metal while cohort in hospital 47:02.26 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Leela Livis, 32, dies after having Thanksgiving dinner with her mom. Her sister, Mia Lacey, and Mia's boyfriend, Richard Pegg, hospitalized but survive. It wasn't bad turkey, it was Bad Mom. Gudrun Linda Jean Casper-Leinenkugel, 52, charged with first degree murder in the death of daughter Leela, and two counts of attempted murder of Mia and Richard. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss how the matriarch of the family conducted internet searches for "what happens if I accidentally ingest acetronile?" and "does wine turn into cyanide?" Joe Scott explains how the poison investigation also caused the 2007 death of Michael Schmidt to be re-examined, turns out Schmidt might not have died in a house fire, it looks like he was poisoned by "Bad Mom" as well.          Transcribe Highlights 00:00.28 Introduction Thanksgiving 04:51.38 Murder and attempted murder at Thanksgiving 09:58.33 Cyanide poisoning 14:52.42 Industrial solvent, turns to cyanide when ingested 20:09.64 Poisoning everyone in the house 25:16.95 Tox screen  30:00.16 Was one person the target?  35:17.36 Killing your own child 40:31.69 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mary Theresa Simpson, 12, vanished when she was walking home from a relative's home in March 1964, in Elmira, New York.  Her beaten and abused body was found four days later, in a wooded area in Southport.  Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go back in time to discover what happened to Mary Simpson and why police could not find a suspect to arrest, and charge with the rape and murder of a little girl. They also discuss how, after 60 years, the case was broken wide open due to great police work in 1964. Coupled with exceptional science work by Othram, a suspect has been named after 60 years of questions. Another cold case thawed by www.dnasolves.com. Transcribe Highlights00:03.38 Introduction 01:03.48 Cold Cases - Time Marches On  04:51.96 March 19, 1964 Mary Simpson, 12, vanishes 10:27.83 Suspect jammed twigs, grass, dirt into Mary;s mouth 15:06.68 Area has not changed much since 1964 20:18.94 Targeting of individuals 25:06.14 Subject would have known where they were going 30:06.65 Othram can begin a case with $7,500 36:17.78 Teaching students to triangulate a scene 41:28.48 Conclusion       See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

11-year-old Jordan Weems writes a note to his mom; "Dear mom, I love you because you are smart, kind and very loving. That's what I love about you." Five years after writing that note to his adoptive mother, Spring Weems, Jordan Weems allegedly beats her to death with a hammer, puts her body in a trash dumpster and rolls it to the curb. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go behind the headlines to take a look at the crime scene, the kitchen of a home in a suburb of Oklahoma City to try and understand how a 16-year-old boy, would be charged as an adult for the murder of his adoptive mother.            Transcribe Highlights 00:01.43 Introduction   00:24.64 Joe Scott, not a Handyman 04:28.06 Jordan Weems, 16, charged with killing adoptive mother 08:05.40 Parenting and discipline 13:09.27 Ripping of skin 18:10.56 Weapon of opportunity 23:30.58 Body of Spring Weems in trashcan 29:06.62 Victim beaten while on ground 34:34.95 Blood would have been everywhere 39:02.52 Blood in hair, like a mop 43:29.34 Conclusion    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On April 3, 2025, two girls ate chocolate-covered raspberries. Four days later, Ines de Bedout, 14, and Emilia Forero, 13, pass away. They were reportedly poisoned with thallium, injected into the raspberries. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack find the bottom of the truth barrel and share how an entrepreneur contestant on "Shark Tank" wins the grand prize, and loses her boyfriend. She also allegedly kills his daughter, travels the world while on Interpol's Most Wanted list, only to jump in the Thames after arriving in Great Britain. Transcribe Highlights00:01.91 Introduction - The Thames 02:33.39 Poison deaths  06:28.24 Woman flees to Great Britain, jumps in Thames 12:14.90 Suspect accused of Poison child of former boyfriend 17:46.65 Substances that are now illegal 23:32.66 What would symptoms look like? 28:36.25 2 girls dead, one girl with "life changing injuries" 34:05.06 Lithium batteries and thallium 39:13.40 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the last few weeks, shocking photos "leaked" by the state police showing the inside of the Moscow, Idaho,  Crime Scene. On top of the photos come claims from an "expert" hired by Kohberger team who claims there were two killers and multiple weapons. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the facts of the case and Joseph Scott Morgan gives a class on forensic evidence and what it means to try and put the case to rest.              Transcribe Highlights 00:00.34 Introduction - Kohberger Theories 02:24.11 Victim Photo dump 07:49.05 Case handled poorly 11:52.18 Video dumps 15:42.47 Still don't have victim tox screens 20:47.06 There was a plan 25:30.83 More than one weapon theory 30:30.22 Other Theories don't fit know facts 35:12.79 Pictures from inside house showed blood 40:01.65 Tearing down the house 44:51.50 Kohberger didn't have to answer questions 45:40.61 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Washington state, Fire Department Battalion Chief Kevin West calls 911 at 4:27 a.m. and reports that his wife, Marcy West, is unconscious.  West says his wife is having a seizure and that he is performing CPR. The Camas-Washougal Fire Department responds to the call, but 48-year-old Marcy dies. An autopsy is inconclusive, and her body is turned over to the funeral home. In the days that follow, police receive calls claiming the West marriage was broken and that the chief was having an affair. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig the truth out of the story, and Joseph Scott Morgan explains what was found in the second autopsy that would have been nearly impossible to miss the first time. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.03 Introduction - Taking a second look 04:05.15 Heroes - Firemen, policemen 06:29.10 Kevin West, fire chief, calls 911 10:24.38 Tammy Daybell death  14:12.47 Brain texture 19:05.56 Divorce and murder 24:44.89 West Marriage discussed in community 29:07.23 Helping first responders experience a real body 34:50.17 Finding marks on the neck 39:40.44 Kevin West guilty of murder 40:19.06 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Feb. 24, 2023, police were called to the Banfield family home for a stabbing and a shooting around 8 a.m. Brendan Banfield, an IRS special agent, told police he shot a man who had stabbed his wife, Christine Banfield. Police find Christine Banfield, nude and stabbed multiple times, in an upstairs bedroom. Nearby, they find a man named Joseph Ryan shot multiple times. Inside the house at the time of the shooting: Brendan Banfield, along with the family's au pair, then-22-year-old Juliana Peres Magalhaes, and the Banfields' then-4-year-old daughter. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go behind the headlines to find out what really happened in a home that left a 37-year-old mother dead, a 39-year-old male stranger dead, an IRS Special agent Brendan Banfield charged with murder, a four-year-old little girl who will be raised by someone other than her mother, and the Au Pair who moved into the master bedroom, then copped a plea deal to testify for the state.        Transcribe Highlights00:00.55 Introduction 01:10.44 Never known anyone who had an "au pair" 04:20.15 Multiple 911 calls 10:24.02 Fingerprints on the knife, digital forensics 14:47.86 Joe shares story from his time in Atlanta 20:20.60 Body not cleaned on scene 25:16.54 911 call, hangup. Another 911 is made 15 minutes later 30:05.72 Federal Agencies have law enforcement wings 35:09.29 Husband and Au Pair involved in sexual relationship 40:02.52 Not just the rifling 45:48.22 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On November 15, 1983, deputies respond to calls of a "suspicious" van parked at a Highway 1 turnout about three miles north of world famous Hearst Castle in San Luis Obispo County, California. Inside the van deputies find the body of Toby Tate, 41. She had been shot in the head in what appeared to be a possible robbery. Her purse was missing as was a nikon camera. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the evidence left behind, how the case went cold, and how after decades, the hard work of the officers in San Luis Obispo and the miracle workers at Othram helped provide answers to the family, and suspects, for the murder.  To find out how you can help solve unsolved murders, go to www.dnasolves.com           Transcribe Highlights 00:02.29 Introduction - Child of the 70s  02:28.38 A case involving a van  04:56.41 Van is in a "turn out" lane, San Luis Obispo County 10:30.95 Evidence Toby took her dogs to the beach 15:14.53 Dead Bodies in a van for weeks 20:25.98 Rolling crime scene 25:07.00 Person resisting could put hands on suspect 30:26.78 Pawn Shop detective 35:06.86 From camera in pawn shop until recently, case was cold 40:03.75 Othram gets the info, cracks the case 45:05.99 Suspects dead 47:10.07 Conclusion   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When Stacey Powell doesn't log onto her work computer for two days in the middle of the week, and family can't get her on the phone, police are asked to do a "well-being" check. When police arrive, they immediately suspect Powell's boyfriend, Andrew Ridgeway, of lying. She's later found brutally murdered inside her Auburndale, Florida, home. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack in this episode, as they discuss the case. Also in this episode, we mention a show that dropped December 23, 2025: "1983 Car Fire Death: Charred Remains Buried. Victim Found ALIVE! Who is in GRAVE?"             Transcribe Highlights00:01.62 Introduction - Well-being check   01:02.14 "savage" 05:02.26 Police show up - looking for Stacey 06:05.69 Andrew Ridgeway lies to police 10:01.21 Police need a warrant 15:02.62 What do "raccoon eyes" mean? 20:01.27 Past show - charred remains, 1983 car fire death  25:22.65 Lacerations are not sharp force injuries  30:05.43 Fresh blood, slippery 35:12.74 Stacey was shot and beaten 40:00.73 Beat cops deal with everything 45:20.16 M.E. said face unrecognizable  49:38.18 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In November 2006, the skeletal remains of an unidentified individual were found on a beach in Taholah, an unincorporated village on the Quinault Indian Reservation, in Grays Harbor County, Washington.  he Grays Harbor Sheriff's Office and the Grays Harbor County Coroner's Office responded and began collecting evidence and investigating. The Skeletal Remains: Adult Man - 5'9" - 170 - 180 lbs Likely between 20 and 60 years old (OR OLDER!!!!) Needless to say, the case went cold. For 20 years. In 2025 - Grays Harbor County Coroner's Office and the King County Medical Examiner's Office and submit evidence to Othram. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the case that didn't seem possible to solve, and the Mayor who was able to finally be laid to rest.           Transcribe Highlights 00:03.34 Introduction - Story of "Pearl" 03:23.81 Ann Rule - true crime author 05:05.05 Skeletal Remains found on beach 10:10.94 Dental wear to determine age 15:09.54 Skull wear - suture lines 20:34.97 Standing at the edge of raging rivers 25:01.85 Soft tissue eaten 30:23.00 Mayor Edwin Asher 35:11.85 Skeleton found in 2006 41:12.23 Identifying remains 45:17.78 Having to breathe life into DNA 48:52.47 Othram making a difference  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert Eugene Brashers was a serial killer and rapist who got away with murders. He was only proved to be a "serial killer" 20 years after he killed himself! Brashers body was exhumed and his DNA tied him to the infamous "Yogurt Shop Murders" in Austin, Texas in 1991. Now in the recent past, another cold case has been tied to Brashers - the 1998 murder of Linda Rutledge in Lexington, Kentucky. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the evidence that ties Brashers to both of those crimes as well as several more!            Transcribe Highlights00:02.71 Introduction: Yogurt Shop Murders 05:33.02 Working Serial homicides 10:00.38 Joining the Army, then Navy 15:07.68 Is three years enough for the crime? 19:59.05 Shot to death, fire used to cover-up crime 25:19.93 Comes prepared to start fire  30:24.34 Execution style shooting 35:04.41 Austin and Lexington cases both cold 39:04.69 Did not know Brashers was serial killer until 2018 42:19.26 Conclusion   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On October 17, 2025, a normal morning starts as a New York mother sees her children off to school. After returning from taking her youngest daughter to school, an intruder attacks Aleena Asif after sneaking into her home while she was away. Aleena loses her life during the struggle. Now, according to the County of Nassau District Attorney, an arrest has been made in the case. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go inside the home of Aleena Asif and break down her murder at the hands of her estranged husband, who is accused of smothering the mother of his children with Cyanide and Acid. Transcribe Highlights  00:00.07 Introduction - Snack foods 02:08.31 Cyanide 04:55.10 Marie Hilley using arsenic 10:07.92 Mom taking kids to school, at home, death awaits 15:14.60 Why did school not call the father? 20:21.43 Qureshi uses rag dipped in cyanide and acid 24:57.85 Acid would make skin look red or even turn brown 29:49.11 Workers have to worry about cyanide 35:06.94 Did suspect plan to torture 38:50.95 Conclusion   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.