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We talk about all sorts of things from the perspective of conservation professionals, from museum trends and new technology to the big issues like pay and staying safe at work. In some museums conservation can be a bit of a naughty word but we think it ought to be celebrated!
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Liz and Phedra are joined by Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet as they talk about the conservation of musical instruments: from tuning and treatment considerations to ethics and philosophy. Also tune in (pun somewhat intended) for an interview from Solange with Emma Hardy, violin maker and repairer. There’s even some lovely music at the end!
00:22 More announcements!
02:26 Origin story
07:01 The perils and pleasures of working in a fishbowl
09:38 Tuning and a crash course in ‘temperament’
17:10 Working with musicians
19:29 To play or not to play?
23:04 Seeing the history of an instrument
27:55 Treatment considerations and the need for balance
31:07 A place for copies and reconstructions
37:17 Patreon appeal
00:37:42 Interview with Emma Hardy
Show Notes:
- Nominate someone for the Marsh Conservation Awards 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/impact/the-marsh-conservation-awards.html
- Join us at Icon24 in July: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/icon-2024-conference-conservation-for-change.html
- Get in touch with Jonathan: https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/jonathan-smb
- St Cecilia’s Hall Concert Room and Music Museum: https://www.stcecilias.ed.ac.uk/
- More about the St Cecilia collection: https://collections.ed.ac.uk/mimed/
- ICOM International Committee of Museums and Collections of Instruments and Music (CIMCIM): https://cimcim.mini.icom.museum/
- St Cecilia’s Hall sound library: https://digital.eca.ed.ac.uk/soundlibraries/
- Hardy Violins in Sheffield: https://hardyviolins.co.uk/
More resources:
- To play or not to play: http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/journals/conservation-journal/issue-15/to-play-or-not-to-play-the-ethics-of-musical-instrument-conservation/
- Focus on historic musical instruments: https://www.akbild.ac.at/en/institutes/conservation-restoration/study-focus/objects-focus-on-wood-historic-musical-instruments
- Italian degree in musical instrument conservation: https://restauro.cdl.unipv.it/it
- On the conservation of musical instruments (CIMCIM): https://cimcim.mini.icom.museum/conservation-of-musical-instruments/
- Preservation Perspectives blog: https://libraryblogs.is.ed.ac.uk/conservation/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Liz Hébert, Phedra Komodromou and Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
Jenny, Solange and Phedra are joined by Luisa Casella as we talk about AI: how can conservators use these tools and what are their pros and cons? Luisa tells us about CRAIG, a large language model for conservators, while Jenny frets about the climate impact. Also tune in for a review of a recent lecture on AI usage from Solange and Phedra!
01:35 What do we mean by AI?
04:11 Building a LLM for conservators
13:33 Climate impact and ethical concerns
20:28 Sophisticated users needed
24:13 Future impact on conservation
35:25 Best AI uses we’ve seen
37:46 How is CRAIG different from ChatGPT?
39:42 Teaser: Interview with Robert Erdmann
40:18 Review of Dr Nicholas Eastaugh’s recent AI lecture
47:34 Patreon appeal
Show Notes:
- S01E09 Museum Pi: https://thecword.show/2017/06/21/s01e09-museum-pi/
- S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/
- Follow Luisa and her conservation tips here: https://linktr.ee/conservation_tips
- CRAIG: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-P8SfTCDEO-craig-conservation-restoration-ai-generative-tool
- ChatGPT by OpenAI: https://chatgpt.com/
- BBC article on Sarah Silverman that Jenny mentioned: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66164228
- AIC conservation wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page
- AI and the Climate Crisis (lecture recording): https://goldsmiths.cloud.panopto.eu/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=609824f6-5e69-4241-9bd4-b13a00d3d05b
- AI’s Growing Carbon Footprint: https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2023/06/09/ais-growing-carbon-footprint/
- More on energy usage of AI: https://www.washington.edu/news/2023/07/27/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use/
- BBC article on AI reading ancient burnt scrolls: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68221243
- Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwHBfYsHR0UBAiA_VhMeOIw
- Paintings Group lecture mentioned: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/paintings-group-art-authorship-and-ai-for-good-or-ill.html
Other AI resources:
- Luisa’s Substack article on AI: https://conservationtips.substack.com/p/ai-in-art-conservation
- Heritage Fund briefing on AI: https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/research/artificial-intelligence-digital-heritage-leadership-briefing
- Museums Association on AI: https://www.museumsassociation.org/category/ai/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Solange Masher, Jenny Mathiasson, Phedra Komodromou and Luisa Casella.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
Jenny and Liz talk to Dr Marysia Tarnowska about their journey into heritage science from a background in chemistry: from molecular bonds to leather deterioration! Jenny also talks to Dr Josep Grau-Bove from the Icon Heritage Science Group about how we can communicate better as both conservators and scientists. Finally, tune in for a review of ‘Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings’ from Liz!
00:01:10 From chemistry to museum adventures
00:07:35 A project is born
00:14:53 Scientific papers are an endurance sport
00:17:23 Ways into heritage science
00:19:08 Communicating with conservators
00:24:02 Reaching scientists early on
00:34:28 Museums doing research
00:40:53 Getting involved with scientists
00:43:42 University is where it’s at
00:47:13 Don’t forget about the Marsh Awards
00:48:00 Patreon shout-out
00:48:37 Interview with Dr Josep Grau-Bove
01:03:11 Review: Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings
Show Notes:
- Find Marysia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marysia-tarnowska/
- Follow Marysia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/supra_marysia
- Blog entry by Lucia Burgio at the V&A: https://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/caring-for-our-collections/a-week-in-the-life-of-a-va-heritage-scientist-intro
- Red rot (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_rot
- Museum of Leathercraft: https://museumofleathercraft.org/
- Leather Conservation Centre: https://leatherconservation.org/
- Institute for Creative Leather Technologies: https://www.northampton.ac.uk/research/research-institutes-and-centres/institute-for-creative-leather-technologies/
- S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/
- ICPMS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductively_coupled_plasma_mass_spectrometry
- /r/ArtConservation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtConservation/
- Icon Heritage Science Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/heritage-science.html
- European Research Infrastructure for Heritage Science (E-RIHS): https://www.e-rihs.eu/
- MoLab: https://www.iperionhs.eu/molab/
- AHRC (Arts and Humanities Research Council): https://www.ukri.org/councils/ahrc/
- Research at Amgueddfa Cymru: https://museum.wales/research/
- Cultural Heritage Agency of the Netherlands: https://english.cultureelerfgoed.nl/
- Marsh Conservation Awards 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/impact/the-marsh-conservation-awards.html
- Dr Josep Grau-Bove at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/33855-josep-graubove
- UCL Institute for Sustainable Heritage: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/heritage/ucl-institute-sustainable-heritage
- Dr Katherine Curran at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/34356-katherine-curran/
- Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings book: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/soft-paint-and-the-care-of-paintings/?id=450
Previous ‘Working With’ episodes:
- S07E04 Working With Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/
- S09E01 Working With Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/
- S10E02 Working With Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/
- S11E03 Working With Learning: https://thecword.show/2022/04/20/s11e03-working-with-learning/
- S13E04 Working With Adult Learning: https://thecword.show/2023/05/03/s13e04-working-with-adult-learning/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Liz Hébert, Jenny Mathiasson, and Dr Marysia Tarnowska.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
Join Jenny, Kloe and Liz as they explore historic houses across the world, their unique charms, and quirky challenges. Phedra whisks us away to a sun-soaked historic house museum in Cyprus, while Liz delves into the meticulous conservation efforts at Sir John Soane's Museum with Jane Wilkinson. Finally, Kloe has a chat with Helen Antrobus about what it’s like working in the National Trust.
00:00:28 What’s a historic house?
00:03:18 Are all of them posh?
00:07:03 Nature and heritage in harmony
00:09:30 Our favourites
00:16:30 Jenny feels like an alien
00:23:14 Mitigating damage
00:24:56 Houses still in use
00:31:12 Challenges and temptations
00:37:21 What era are we interpreting or preserving?
00:40:57 Pests and damp patches
00:44:28 Patreon shout out
00:45:00 Interview with Jane Wilkinson
00:56:00 Phedra’s visit to Lefkara
01:07:17 Interview with Helen Antrobus
Show Notes:
- National Trust: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/
- NT annual report Jenny quoted: https://documents.nationaltrust.org.uk/story/annual-report-2023/page/1
- Historic Houses (UK): https://www.historichouses.org/
- Rembrandt House, Amsterdam: https://www.rembrandthuis.nl/en/
- Kettles Yard, Cambridge: https://www.kettlesyard.cam.ac.uk/history-of-kettles-yard/
- Pollok House, Glasgow: https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/pollok-house-major-refurbishment
- FAI or the National Trust for Italy: https://fai-international.org/
- Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: https://www.gardnermuseum.org/
- Gawthorpe Hall, Ightenhill: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/liverpool-lancashire/gawthorpe-hall
- Chatsworth, Bakewell: https://www.chatsworth.org/
- Yin Yu Tang at Peabody Essex Museum: https://www.pem.org/yin-yu-tang-a-chinese-home
- St Fagans National Museum of History in Wales: https://museum.wales/stfagans/
- Beamish, the Living Museum of the North, in England: https://www.beamish.org.uk/
- Museo Horne: https://www.museohorne.it/en/
- Holker Hall in Cumbria: https://www.holker.co.uk/
- West Dean College: https://www.westdean.ac.uk/
- Barnes foundation move in Philadelphia: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/14/arts/design/judge-rules-the-barnes-can-move-to-philadelphia.html
- S10E04 Halloween special with haunted properties: https://thecword.show/2021/10/28/s10e04-halloween-special/
- Old World Wisconsin: https://oldworldwisconsin.wisconsinhistory.org/
- Sir John Soane's Museum: https://www.soane.org/
- The book mentioned by Liz: https://shop.soane.org/collections/books-and-maps/products/a-complete-description-of-sir-john-soanes-museum-24
- The Local Museum of Traditional Embroidery and Silversmith-work, Lefkara (for the virtual tour!): https://larnakaregion.com/directory/product/local-museum-traditional-embroidery-and-silversmith-work-lefkara
- S10E02 Working with Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/
- Visiting the National Trust conservation studios: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/search?type=place&query=conservation
- Hidden Treasures of the National Trust on the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001lttx
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Liz Hébert, Kloe Rumsey, and Jenny Mathiasson.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
Liz and Phedra join forces with freelance paintings conservator Alexis Drapanas as they tackle an ECP special! Phedra also interviews conservator Kerith Koss Schrager and intern Adrienne Gendron about health and safety for emerging professionals. And don’t forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about getting into some more unusual specialisms!
00:00:45 Introducing our ECP hosts
00:08:02 Straight from university to private practice
00:09:15 What does ‘emerging’ mean to you?
00:16:01 Let’s talk money!
00:24:37 Paperwork in real life
00:29:22 Job searching across Europe
00:37:44 How to break down the door
00:45:45 Patreon teaser
00:46:00 Interview with Kerith Koss Schrager and Adrienne Gendron
01:00:57 Phedra’s recommended listening
01:03:19 Dear Jane
Show Notes:
- Alexis’ website: https://www.drapanas.com/
- Follow Phedra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phedrakom/
- Cardiff University: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/course/conservation-of-objects-in-museums-and-archaeology-bsc
- Lorenzo de Medici Institute: https://ldminstitute.com/department/restoration/
- Follow Liz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizhebertxcvi
- Follow Liz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizhebertxcvi/
- Conversation Conservation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/conversationconservation/
- AIC Health and Safety Wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Category:Health_%26_Safety
- Health and safety beginner's guide: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/w/images/1/1d/H%26S_BeginnerGuide.pdf
- Hazards in collections eTool: https://hazardsincollections.org.uk/
- 6 session C2C Course - Health and Safety in Collections Care: https://learning.culturalheritage.org/products/c2c-care-course-health-and-safety-in-collections-care
Phedra’s recommended listening:
- S01E05 Emerging Professionals: https://thecword.show/2017/04/26/s01e05-emerging-professionals/
- S02E04 Emerging Professionals 2: https://thecword.show/2017/10/04/s02e04-emerging-professionals-2/
- S13E02 Accreditation Part 1: https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/
- S12E06 Time Management: https://thecword.show/2022/11/23/s12e06-time-management/
- S12E01 Job Interviews: https://thecword.show/2022/09/14/s12e01-job-interviews/
- S11E04 Building a Business: https://thecword.show/2022/05/04/s11e04-building-a-business/
- S10E05 Aches and Pains: https://thecword.show/2021/11/10/s10e05-aches-and-pains/
- S05E05 Portfolio Extravaganza: https://thecword.show/2019/05/15/s05e05-portfolio-extravaganza/
- S04E02 Parenthood: https://thecword.show/2018/10/03/s04e02-parenthood/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Liz Hébert, Phedra Komodromou, and Alexis Drapanas.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
Meet the dream team! It’s a crowded recording session today: Jenny and Kloe ask their new colleagues Liz, Phedra, and Solange about their new roles and their favourite objects, tools, and adhesives. What ARE a few of our favourite things? Also tune in for a review of ‘Conservation of Books’ from Solange!
00:02:16 Who’s Liz?
00:04:22 And who’s Phedra?
00:07:00 Aaand who’s Solange?
00:09:38 Experimentation ahead
00:14:10 Favourite Instagram accounts
00:17:08 Favourite objects
00:25:31 Least favourite objects!
00:34:02 Can you have a favourite pest…?
00:37:33 Favourite adhesive
00:53:38 Favourite tools
01:04:17 Review: Conservation of Books
Show Notes:
- Follow Liz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizhebertxcvi
- Follow Liz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizhebertxcvi/
- Liz’s website: https://readymag.website/u1771381592/4680039/
- The EC Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/35cVChweygfrY8A7o4LLiw or https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ecpodcast/id1507272772
- Future Conservator Podcast: https://soundcloud.com/user-979095571
- Follow Phedra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phedrakom/
- Follow Solange on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liber.conservation
- Solange’s business: https://liberconservation.co.uk/
- You should definitely support us on Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/thecword
- Squeaky Conservator on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@squeakyconserves
- Our new Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_c_word_podcast
- International Mount Makers Forum: https://www.instagram.com/internationalmountmakersforum/
- Classical Studies Memes for Hellenistic Teens: https://www.instagram.com/csmfht/
- Fun Conservators: https://www.instagram.com/fun_conservators/
- Reversible Zine: https://www.instagram.com/reversiblezine/
- The Lady Art Handler: https://www.instagram.com/theladyarthandler/
- Conservation in Focus: https://www.instagram.com/conservationinfocus/
- Bridget Mitchell: https://www.instagram.com/bridget.mitchell_/
- Ki Culture: https://www.kiculture.org/
- S10E05 Aches and Pains: https://thecword.show/2021/11/10/s10e05-aches-and-pains/
- CAC-ACCR Conference (Keeping it Real: Conservation in Practice): https://www.cac-accr.ca/our-conferences/
- Conservation of Books (edited by Abigail Bainbridge): https://www.routledge.com/Conservation-of-Books/Bainbridge/p/book/9780367754907
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Phedra Komodromou.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2024.
In this special bonus episode we make a couple of overdue announcements, take you with us to an award ceremony in Cardiff, and profess our undying love for our listeners. Would you like to join us on The C Word team? Get in touch!
00:57 We’re having a break - and we’re recruiting!
07:31 We’ve got an award
09:21 Recording from The 30(ish) Awards
17:50 Dear Jane teaser
18:51 Patreon shout out
Show Notes:
- Recruitment page: https://thecword.show/recruitment/
- The 30(ish) Awards winners: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/alumni/features/30ish-awards-2023
- Dear Jane cotton bud video: https://youtu.be/lZg8hNajdQg
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
In this one we talk to Professor Aviva Burnstock about what paintings can be and we chat with Polly Saltmarsh about communicating conservation and the joys of sticky toffee pudding sauce. Also tune in for a review of ‘On Canvas: Preserving the Structure of Paintings’ by Stephen Hackney from Kloe.
03:48 When is a painting a painting?
10:05 On the nature of painted surfaces
13:13 How students might approach a painting
16:20 A chat about varnish
27:39 The joy of microscopy
28:39 Gut feelings and forgeries
34:06 Interview with Polly Saltmarsh
48:03 Review: On Canvas
52:28 Patreon appeal
Show Notes:
- The Courtauld Institute of Art: https://courtauld.ac.uk/
- Art and Artifice fakes exhibition: https://courtauld.ac.uk/whats-on/art-and-artifice-fakes-from-the-collection/
- Fake or Fortune: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mxxz6
- Polly’s website: https://www.paintingsconservation.co.uk/
- Reopening the National Portrait Gallery: https://www.npg.org.uk/blog/road-to-reopening
- On Canvas: https://shop.getty.edu/products/on-canvas-preserving-the-structure-of-paintings-978-1606066263?variant=29175364157517
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Aviva Burnstock.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
We’re joined by special guest host Cass Fino-Radin as we talk about time-based media: what it can be, what the challenges are, and what we can do to preserve it. From mechanical components to maintaining software, we geek out about everything that’s wonderful about this type of conservation. Also tune in for a review of poetry pamphlet ‘Accessioning’ by Charlotte Wetton.
00:21 A long-time spreadsheet idea
02:44 A potted history of time-based media (maybe)
05:41 Conservation of performance art
10:26 The wildest thing about time-based media
12:40 Cass’ origin story
22:36 Blurry objects and things going off
27:54 More suggestions for what time-based media is
30:55 Old vs new technology
36:56 What makes a good time-based media conservator?
40:03 Review: Accessioning
44:54 Patreon appeal
Show Notes:
- Art and Obsolescence podcast: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/
- Cass’ website: https://finoradin.info/
- Pip Laurenson: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/art-history/people/academic-staff/professor-pip-laurenson
- Episode with Glenn Wharton: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/episodes/005-glenn-wharton
- MoMA Media and Performance department: https://www.moma.org/about/curatorial-departments/media-performance
- S05E03 Contemporary Art: https://thecword.show/2019/04/17/s05e03-contemporary-art/
- Episode with Annet Dekker: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/episodes/043-annet-dekker
- Rhizome: https://rhizome.org/
- AIC 40th annual meeting in Albuquerque (2012): https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/periodicals/annual-meeting/2012-annual-meeting-abstracts.pdf?sfvrsn=1dbb1699_8
- Cass’ company Small Data Industries: https://smalldata.industries/
- Cooper Hewitt: https://www.cooperhewitt.org/
- S09E05 Dynamic Objects: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/
- S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/
- S01E09 Museum Pi: https://thecword.show/2017/06/21/s01e09-museum-pi/
- Time-based media according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_and_restoration_of_time-based_media_art
- Planetary app case study: https://www.cooperhewitt.org/2019/05/16/planetary-cooper-hewitts-first-ios-app/
- Accessioning poetry pamphlet: https://theemmapress.com/shop/poetry/pamphlets/accessioning/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Cass Fino-Radin.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
In this episode Jenny and Kloe address a correction before launching into a takeover special: join Kloe, Nerys Rudder and Jane Henderson as they go to the ‘Changing the World: Approach, Strategy and the Future of University Museums’ UMG conference and run around the newly refurbished Manchester Museum.
03:55 A correction from Jane
07:13 Other comments from listeners
12:19 Three conservators go to a conference
55:28 Patreon appeal
Show Notes:
- Manchester Museum: https://www.museum.manchester.ac.uk/
- UMG Spring Conference 2023: http://universitymuseumsgroup.org/events/save-the-date-manchester-2023/
- S13E02 Accreditation Part 1: https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Jane Henderson and Nerys Rudder.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
Together with special co-host Alison Lister we explore the private sector: from our workspaces to how we learn on the job. Join us for a catch-up on Jenny’s adventures in business, along with Kloe’s commercial experience and Alison’s passionate call for us all to share more. Bridget Mitchell tells us about finding joy in your business and the power of positive thinking. Also tune in for an audio tour of Jenny’s workspace and a round-up of the Museums + Heritage Show in London.
00:00:42 Wait, are we talking business again?
00:05:16 The old museum vs business conundrum
00:09:27 The importance of Time
00:15:48 What does a conservation space look like?
00:18:42 Why we need to make a fuss
00:27:55 Private practice is people work
00:33:13 How could we be supported to share more?
00:35:18 Training and professional development
00:46:26 The future of private practice
00:49:49 Jenny’s round-up of the Museums + Heritage Show and Icon meet-up
00:55:18 Interview with Bridget Mitchell
01:04:43 Tour of Jenny’s workspace
01:12:07 Patreon appeal
Show Notes:
- S11E04 Building a Business: https://thecword.show/2022/05/04/s11e04-building-a-business/
- S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/
- Alison’s company: https://textileconservation.co.uk/
- S09E08 Dyes in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2021/06/30/s09e08-dyes-in-conservation/
- Secrets of the National Trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secrets_of_the_National_Trust
- Hidden Treasures of the National Trust (the one Jenny actually meant): https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/discover/film-tv/hidden-treasures-of-the-national-trust
- Secrets of the Museum: https://www.vam.ac.uk/info/secrets-of-the-museum
- The Repair Shop: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08l581p
- Kickstart Scheme: https://www.kickstart-uk.com/
- S01E01 Demographics: https://thecword.show/2017/02/15/demographics/
- Museums + Heritage Show: https://show.museumsandheritage.com/
- Plowden winner Julie Dawson: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/icon-emeritus-member-julie-dawson-wins-prestigious-plowden-medal-for-conservation.html
- Marsh Charitable Trust awards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/winners-marsh-awards-for-conservation-2023.html
- Follow Bridget on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arcapreservation/
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Alison Lister.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
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A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
We’re joined by special guest host Stella Toonen as we explore a topic with many synonyms: public programming, outreach, adult learning, and so many more! We get enthused about ideas for events that conservation can get in on, and talk about the many pitfalls – and benefits – of co-creation in museums.
01:06 What’s this episode about?
03:52 Stella’s outreach journey
05:50 Kloe’s experiences facilitating events
09:39 Jenny’s experiences working with the public
13:27 Growing audiences and different offers
19:40 Examples of events for grown-ups
25:44 Saddling an artist with the work of museums
28:53 Stella’s research around co-creation
35:09 Involve conservators early!
38:02 Inspo for learning events
46:03 Comments, questions, and corrections
53:49 Patreon appeal and shout out
Show Notes:
- Follow Stella here: https://twitter.com/StellaToonen
- Stella’s website: https://stellatoonencom.wordpress.com/
- S11E03 Working with Learning: https://thecword.show/2022/04/20/s11e03-working-with-learning/
- Heritage Open Days: https://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/
- S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/
- Ladder of Participation explained: https://organizingengagement.org/models/ladder-of-citizen-participation/
- Tania Bruguera at the Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/tania-bruguera-11982
- Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/
- The Whitworth: https://www.whitworth.manchester.ac.uk/
- Queens Museum: https://queensmuseum.org/
- Awards, grants and scholarships mentioned for students: https://www.artsscholars.org/awards-grants-scholarships
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Stella Toonen.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
We’re joined by curator Karen Logan as we talk about working with collections that stir up emotions and recent memories: from The Troubles in Northern Ireland to Brexit and activism. Also tune in for Kloe’s thoughts and feelings on human remains and other displays as she visited Egypt in February.
04:00 How did this episode come about?
08:26 What are The Troubles?
15:40 What to include
18:10 Contemporary collecting
23:40 Including people is powerful
26:11 Audience differences
27:50 Collecting Brexit
32:24 Responding to challenges
39:49 Kloe’s visit to NMEC
47:20 Patreon appeal and shout out
Show Notes:
- National Museums NI: https://www.nationalmuseumsni.org/
- The Troubles according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
- Collecting The Troubles and Beyond: https://www.nationalmuseumsni.org/resources/collecting-troubles-and-beyond
- Collecting Cultures by NHLF: https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/evaluation/collecting-cultures-evaluation
- PHM collecting: https://phm.org.uk/collections/
- James Ellis (actor): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ellis_(actor)
- Nothing About Us Without Us exhibition: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/nothing-about-us-without-us/
- National Museum of Egyptian Civilization: https://nmec.gov.eg/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Karen Logan.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
We have a chat amongst ourselves about the process of becoming an accredited conservator, as seen by two mid-career people staring at the application form in fear and distress. This episode contains snippets of both Jenny’s and Kloe’s thoughts on the very early stages of getting ready to even apply, being on the Pathway (PACR), and some of the notable barriers. Kloe also interviews Heather Doyle about how accreditation works and how it will be changing, and Dear Jane handles a question about how to pitch for more hours of work.
00:00:33 Jenny’s long road on the Pathway
00:05:38 Kloe’s speed-run
00:11:26 The murky history of accreditation
00:16:01 Evidence is everything
00:21:27 Reasons to go for it
00:23:41 Specialisms are made up
00:29:50 Jenny frets about things after a workshop
00:32:36 Kloe’s commitment
00:37:17 Kloe’s anxiety about specialisms and forms
00:40:49 Kloe’s confused about mentors
00:42:08 Kloe discovers the Pathway
00:43:35 Kloe’s funding issues
00:45:20 Interview with Heather Doyle
01:12:56 Postscript (sort of)
01:16:18 Dear Jane
01:23:59 Patreon shout out and appeal
Show Notes:
- All about Icon accreditation: https://www.icon.org.uk/accreditation.html
- The Conservation Register: https://www.conservationregister.com/
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
We talk to community-building conservator Melissa King about nurturing communication between collections care professionals and the growing preservation community at Conserv. Jenny also talks to heritage consultant Sarah Marsom about being a moderator online, and to chief exec Sara Crofts about Icon’s use of Discord and Basecamp. Don’t forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about getting some conservation experience in South Africa!
00:02:15 Web based communities and conservation
00:04:27 Whatever happened to forums?
00:09:44 Different ways and levels of engaging
00:10:50 Kloe feels clueless (but isn’t really)
00:16:39 Developing communities for different audiences
00:20:05 Platform options out there
00:25:09 Being too afraid to post
00:31:11 Kloe joins the Conserv community
00:37:26 Jenny wants a Mastodon instance for conservators
00:40:17 Interview with Sarah Marsom
00:53:40 Interview with Sara Crofts
01:04:50 Dear Jane
01:12:24 Patreon shout out and funding plea
Show Notes:
- Join the Conserv Community here: https://community.conserv.io/join?invitation_token=18de977edaf111954e06b897a6ab0356181e1c1a-97dcab76-66ae-4e51-8831-e2d9f5d886f4
- Conserv: https://bit.ly/3TvkFfB
- S09E04 Environmental Monitoring: https://thecword.show/2021/05/05/s09e04-environmental-monitoring/
- Conserv’s upcoming conference: https://conserv.io/preservation-matters-2023/
- Conservation DistList archives: https://cool.culturalheritage.org/byform/mailing-lists/cdl/
- Global Conservation Forum: https://community.culturalheritage.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=ea3d002c-9fc3-4446-b7d2-c308f5faed13
- Online communities as defined by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_community
- Connecting to Collections Care community: https://connectingtocollections.org/
- ConCode: https://www.concode.info/
- A quick guide to Facebook Groups: https://www.lifewire.com/facebook-groups-4103720
- Discord: https://discord.com/
- Slack: https://slack.com/
- Circle: https://circle.so/
- Cardiff Conservation Graduates FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/132162183909/
- FREELANCE Conservators in Private Practice FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1679578638848189/
- Art Conservation Advocates FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/artconservationadvocates/
- Reddit’s /r/MuseumPros: https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumPros/
- Reddit’s /r/ArtConservation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtConservation/
- A succinct explanation to the Fediverse: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/f924e846c24ec7ed82d6d554a7e7c9a8
- The GLAM server on Mastodon: https://glammr.us/
- Sarah Marsom: https://www.sarahmarsom.com/
- Historic Preservation Professionals FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PreservationProfessionals
- National Council of Public History on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/publichistorians
- Basecamp: https://basecamp.com/
- Example of Cex Drop-In Session via Icon: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/cex-drop-in-session-april-2023-2.html
- ICOM-CC open access papers treasure trove: https://www.icom-cc-publications-online.org/
- Studies in Conservation: https://www.iiconservation.org/publications/sic
- JAIC: https://www.culturalheritage.org/publications/journal-(jaic)
- JIC: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/journal-of-the-institute-of-conservation.html
- AICCM Bulletin: https://aiccm.org.au/publications/aiccm-bulletin/
- Thoughts on commercial taxidermy skills: https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/conservation/2310-2/
- Connect with Monique Vajifdar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monique-vajifdar-470025211/
- South African Museums Association: https://samuseums.co.za/
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Melissa King.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2023.
As we huddle up in a pew with Dr Sarah Turner we talk about Christmas in cathedrals, play a parlour game of Five Things, and make some predictions for the year ahead. Kloe talks to Beth Gillions about her time as a caretaker at Westminster Chapel in winter, and Todd Wright sings our rendition of ‘Silent Night’ for some extra feels. Also tune in for a review of ‘National Treasures: Saving the Nation’s Art in World War II’ from Jenny and a Dear Jane about pre-programme experience in the US. Happy holidays!
02:02 Uses of church spaces and collections around Christmas
08:59 Five Things parlour game
19:00 Annual predictions
24:19 Interview with Beth Gillions
32:27 Install Night (Christmas song)
34:22 Review: National Treasures
37:30 Dear Jane
Show Notes:
- Canterbury Cathedral: https://www.canterbury-cathedral.org/
- Lambeth conference: https://www.lambethconference.org/
- Vestments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestment
- Liturgical colours: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgical_colours
- Jenny’s favourite Disney film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunchback_of_Notre_Dame_(1996_film)
- Westminster Chapel: https://westminsterchapel.org.uk/
- More music by Todd Wright (our singer this year): https://open.spotify.com/artist/4774AfmqyBy6472bdgGD5F
- National Treasures by Caroline Shenton: https://www.carolineshenton.co.uk/book/national-treasures-saving-the-nations-art-in-world-war-ii/
- Example of online volunteering (in the UK): https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/get-involved/volunteering/volunteering-opportunities/remote-opportunities/
- Repair cafe movement: https://www.repaircafe.org/en/
- State of NC Internship Program: https://ncadmin.nc.gov/public/internship-program-2023
***
Install Night (vocals by Todd Wright, lyrics by Kloe Rumsey, Beth Gillions, and Morgan Fox)
Install night, loans done right
Objects in crates, snug and tight,
Weatherproof, padded with Plastazote foam,
Labelled sections in temporary homes
Acclimate them for install
Acclimate them for install
Install night, gloves in sight
Forms laid out on which couriers will write,
No change occurred on the journey here
Loan reports for take-down next year
Per diem and a budget meal
Per diem and a budget meal
***
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Dr Sarah Turner.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2022.
Together with special co-host Sean Kelly we talk about all things redevelopment: from the strange sensation of taking things off display, to the joy of opening the doors, and why museum work never stops. Also tune in for interviews with Georgina Young from Manchester Museum, Alex Cropper from Manchester Jewish Museum, and Chris Weeks from Manx National Heritage.
00:00:51 What’s happening in Paisley?
00:05:24 Putting collections in new places
00:07:44 The odd melancholy of a decant
00:13:47 Building design and collections care
00:19:21 How long does a big funding bid take?
00:23:04 Why do we redevelop and who decides?
00:29:06 The things people get upset about
00:39:51 How often do you redevelop?
00:45:27 Interview with Georgina Young
00:57:20 Interview with Alex Cropper
01:06:07 Interview with Chris Weeks
Show Notes:
- Paisley Museum and Art Galleries: https://paisley.is/paisley-museum-and-art-galleries/
- City of Culture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_City_of_Culture
- Carmarthenshire Museums and an old Debenhams: https://newsroom.carmarthenshire.gov.wales/2022/08/former-debenhams-building-to-be-used-to-bring-together-key-public-services-all-under-one-roof/#.Y494XOzP2A4
- ALA projects: https://www.ala.uk.com/selected-projects/
- The Wellcome thread everyone got oddly upset about: https://twitter.com/ExploreWellcome/status/1596091202381975552
- Wellcome gallery closure statement: https://wellcomecollection.org/pages/Y4TdMBAAACMApB14
- Ipswich Museum redevelopment: https://ipswich.cimuseums.org.uk/ipswichmuseumredevelopment/
- People being angry at Ipswich redevelopment plans: https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/local-council/20706027.ipswich-museum-addresses-petition-reassures-history-will-preserved/
- Article Kloe was quoting: https://www.victoriansociety.org.uk/news/ipswich-museum-under-threat-from-historically-insensitive-redevelopment
- What’s happening to the old Museum of London site: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/27/museum-of-london-plans-to-demlish-site-bastion-house-sheppard-robson-diller-scofidio-renfro-centre-for-music
- Manchester Museum’s Hello Future redevelopment: https://www.museum.manchester.ac.uk/about/hellofuture/
- Manchester Jewish Museum: https://www.manchesterjewishmuseum.com/
- Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/
- Isle of Man TT Gallery project: https://manxnationalheritage.im/about-us/isle-of-man-tt-gallery/
- Zenzie Tinker Conservation: https://www.zenzietinker.co.uk/
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Sean Kelly.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
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A Wooden Dice production, 2022.
Join us for another tranquil boat episode with conservator Pierrette Squires as we talk about time management. How do you estimate how long a treatment will take? How do you handle project slip, unexpected overtime, and an overflowing inbox? How do you structure the day when you’re self-employed? Also tune in for a Dear Jane about stakeholders and furry friends.
00:02:51 Kloe’s experience and approach
00:08:42 Building the skill of estimates
00:11:46 Jenny’s struggles
00:16:21 The Out of Office message and emails
00:24:52 Pierrette’s approach as a manager
00:30:36 Lists and calendars
00:44:35 Working with others (slight interference here)
00:47:50 Exceptional circumstances
00:53:11 Suddenly priority
00:59:04 Advice for beginners
01:00:45 Dear Jane
01:03:49 Comments, questions, and corrections
Show Notes:
- S12E05 Disability in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2022/11/09/s12e05-disability-in-conservation/
- Toggl: https://toggl.com/
- Adam Savage on check boxes and lists: https://www.wired.com/story/adam-savage-lists-more-lists-power-checkboxes/
- Example of a circular wall planner: https://www.theroundmethod.com/products/circular-calendar-digital-download-pdf
- Visit our shop: https://www.thecword.show/shop
Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword
Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Pierrette Squires.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2022.
Join us on a tranquil houseboat as we talk about being conservators with disabilities with special guest host Pierrette Squires. We share our various experiences and set the world to rights (with ducks in the background). Also tune in for a Dear Jane about accreditation, a tour of the new ‘Nothing About Us Without Us’ exhibition with Kloe, and a review of ‘The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability’ from Jenny.
00:01:35 Jenny’s experiences
00:03:53 Pierrette’s hearing loss
00:07:09 Kloe’s struggles
00:12:46 Relating to others and appreciating yourself
00:17:55 Shout out to placement students with disabilities
00:19:17 Are there more disabled conservators now?
00:21:01 Recruitment and the fear of discrimination
00:25:37 How to be a more supportive workplace
00:33:33 How flexible working has transformed our health
00:36:40 Training ahead of an exhibition
00:42:21 How society (and conservation) disables us
00:44:00 Reactions to disability and access issues
00:52:29 Disability represented in museum collections
00:58:18 Access for visitors: lights, touch, and adjustments
01:07:00 CPD issues
01:11:34 Discussion of the AIC report
01:20:37 Dear Jane
01:26:20 Review: The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability
01:32:29 Kloe takes us behind the scenes
Show Notes:
- Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance
- Definition of disability under the Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disability-under-equality-act-2010
- Menieres disease: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/menieres-disease/
- S01E01 Demographics: https://thecword.show/2017/02/15/demographics/
- Adult ADHD screening test: https://adhduk.co.uk/adult-adhd-screening-survey/
- Work of the Icon Diversity & Inclusion Task & Finish Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource-report/diversity-and-inclusion-task-and-finish-group-report.html
- Exhibition about disabled people’s activism: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/nothing-about-us-without-us-3/
- Social vs medical model of disability: https://www.ombudsman.org.uk/sites/default/files/FDN-218144_Introduction_to_the_Social_and_Medical_Models_of_Disability.pdf
- Greater Manchester Coalition of Disabled People: https://gmcdp.com/
- Spoon theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory
- S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/
- Accessibility in Conservation Survey report from AIC: https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/reports/survey-reports/accessibility-in-conservation-report.pdf
- The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability: https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Art-and-Disability/Watson-Hiles/p/book/9780367444785
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Pierrette Squires.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2022.
Jenny and Kloe share some conservation horror stories, including mysterious tales of possessed equipment and phantasmal fans. Break it down to our Halloween song ‘The Monstrous Crash’ and then wind down with a review of ‘Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide’ by Noah Angell. Finally Jenny shares some pumpkin preservation tips for everyone’s Halloween needs!
02:59 Can anyone offer us a haunted place to visit?
04:23 Jenny’s possessed air quality monitor
06:40 Kloe’s mysterious fan incident
15:26 What’s the spookiest museum object you’ve ever come across?
19:16 What’s the scariest thing you’ve found in the store?
27:50 The scariest job offers
29:50 Kloe’s addendum on The Fan Incident
31:40 The Monstrous Crash
35:27 Review: Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide
38:02 Comments, questions, corrections
38:33 Pumpkin preservation
Show Notes:
- European Day of Conservation-Restoration: https://www.ecco-eu.org/european-day-of-conservation-restoration/
- S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/
- S01E02 Human Remains: https://thecword.show/2017/03/15/s01e02-human-remains/
- S07E02 Frightful Beasts and Where to Find Them: https://thecword.show/2020/04/29/s07e02-frightful-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/
- Spitting Image (TV series): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitting_Image
- S02E05 Modern Materials: https://thecword.show/2017/10/18/s02e05-modern-materials/
- Meaco environmental monitoring (to verify hauntings): https://meaco.co.uk/
- Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/ghost-stories-of-the-british-museum-audio-guide/1529228148
- S12E03 Gemstones and Minerals: https://thecword.show/2022/10/12/s12e03-gemstones-and-minerals/
- Making your jack-o-lantern last longer: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/how-to-make-your-pumpkins-last-longer/
***
The Monstrous Crash (vocals by Steve Waddington and the Case Kickers)
I was working in the lab late one night,
When an eerie noise gave me a fright
I heard new voices I did not recognise,
And suddenly to my surprise,
There was a monstrous crash!
Something reduced to trash
I set off at a dash!
What a monstrous crash!
With gloves in hand I dashed down the hall
No answers from paintings, hung upon the walls
No response from the medieval gallery where
An armoured suit gave me a steely glare...
There was a monstrous crash!
Something reduced to trash
I set off at a dash!
What a monstrous crash!
This report will not be fun, telling bosses what’s been done
The mess might be abhorrent - my work may be undone!
And I rounded the corner, in quite a fright,
But just got stony looks from all the ammonites,
Then the burial goods it was time to brave,
Where votive figures are all silent as the grave
There was a monstrous crash!
Something reduced to trash
I set off at a dash!
What a monstrous crash!
And at last at the gift shop I found the noise,
Where the night guard who our museum employs,
Had tripped over the soft toys’ rack, but then,
Said “Why are you here? It’s 2am!”
There was a monstrous crash!
Something reduced to trash
I set off at a dash!
What a monstrous crash!
So back to my office it was time to creep,
The legionary in his coffin went back to sleep,
But then I heard a distant, case-rattling roar...
Probably the mould beast on the basement floor
There was a monstrous crash!
Something reduced to trash
I set off at a dash!
What a monstrous crash!
Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh
At least it’s not as scary as china repairs done with sellotape…
Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh
Oops… My bad!
***
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Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey.
Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license.
A Wooden Dice production, 2022.
AAAAHHHHH!!!! I was diagnosed with ADHD in 2007 and I had been on medication all through school. But since I came to the UK they won't validate my diagnosis or give me any accommodations. it's honestly debilitating. really needed to hear this today!!
I absolutely love this podcast! I am SO happy you ladies are doing this <3 <3
Amazing podcast on Art Conservation. Really well documented, just too british (not a bad thing) but maybe we need more like this From other parts of the globe. thank you for doing this, I am in love.