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The Seismic Shift with Michelle K. Johnston
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Welcome to Seismic Shift - a leadership podcast that focuses on connection. I’m your host, Michelle K. Johnston: management professor, executive coach, and leadership expert. I believe that today’s leaders need more than power and control to get the best from their teams; they need connection. Through interviews with some of today’s top business leaders, we are going to explore how leaders' ability to connect with themselves, their teams, and their organizations defines their ultimate success or failure. This podcast runs in close parallel to my new book, The Seismic Shift in Leadership, where you can find even more insights from me and the brilliant leaders I interviewed this season. So let's set our sights on connection and get ready to take on the daunting, yet exciting, challenge of this Seismic Shift.
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Visual leadership is having a moment—and Todd Cherches explains why. From our dopamine-driven obsession with images to the loneliness epidemic, Todd and Dr. Michelle Johnston connect the dots between how we communicate and how we belong. Todd shares his “three V’s” (visibility, voice, value), why knowing someone’s name changes everything, and how leaders can help people see what they’re saying. You’ll also get practical guidance for presentations (goodbye bullet-point “slideuments”), meetings that feel co-owned, and a simple learning model (VARK) leaders can use to boost attention, comprehension, and retention.CHAPTERS01:41 Why visual leadership is “having its moment”04:58 The 3 V’s: visibility, voice, value08:46 Todd’s story: introvert to TEDx + prog Visual Leadership + the four buckets15:01 Presenting now: WSIC + WIFM (make it about them)17:29 Slide design: “let your slide be your guide”21:28 Rethinking academia + building learning together24:40 VARK explained (with the IKEA example)25:49 Fixing meetings: engagement, ownership, shared journey30:03 Closing takeaways: reflection, introspection, connectionSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
A seismic shift can wipe out a plan in five days—or hand you the clearest view you’ve ever had of your purpose. Fiona Macaulay opens up about what happens when an entire industry gets upended, and the funding model you relied on disappears overnight. Instead of shrinking, she chooses forward motion: staying true to the mission, redesigning the business model, and thinking bigger about impact. Deborah Grayson Riegel brings the conversation into the terrain many leaders quietly carry: anxiety, mental health, and the pressure to never slip. She shares how her daughter Sophie’s middle-school diagnoses became a family wake-up call—and how Sophie’s insistence on honesty pushed Deborah to be more public, more vulnerable, and more useful to others navigating the same realities. Together, Fiona and Deborah unpack the heart of their book, Aim High and Bounce Back: ambitious goals are supposed to be ambitious, which means setbacks are not an exception—they’re part of the process. They talk about the “messy middle,” how feedback can land differently for women, why perfection is a trap, and how leaders can reframe failure into learning without minimizing the pain of the moment. The result is an energizing, real-world playbook for anyone who wants to take bigger swings—without letting fear of failure call the shots.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome + why these two guests are “seismic shifters”x-up that led to a perfect co-author pairing04:17 Fiona’s seismic shift: industry upheaval and a forced business pivot06:33 “Add a zero”: using disruption to expand impact08:59 The messy middle: small steps when everything feels unstable10:53 Deborah on anxiety, advocacy, and leading with the truth14:20 Thought leadership as activism and giving voice to others15:57 How Fiona and Deborah met—and why “Me too” became the spark18:34 Fear of failure as the hidden engine beneath leadership challenges20:53 Deborah’s assignment: go fail on purpose (and build resilience)22:46 Frances Frei’s on-stage moment and what authenticity looks like24:54 Stories and insights from Frances Frei that shaped the book31:08 What Aim High and Bounce Back is really for—and who needs it33:30 The survey: 1,062 responses on failure from around the world35:01 Rehumanizing leadership: imperfection, connection, and growth36:43 Closing gratitude and send-offSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Dr. Michelle Johnston welcomes the legendary Garry Ridge to the Seismic Shift Podcast for a conversation filled with wisdom, humility, and tangible leadership tools. As the former CEO of WD-40 for 25 years, Garry shares how rethinking leadership through a servant lens created seismic results—both in culture and in the bottom line. Garry shares how servant leadership, purpose-driven values, and a culture of belonging transformed a legacy company into a global success story. He explains how redefining leadership roles from "manager" to "coach," embedding purpose into decision-making, and investing in people-first culture led to 93% engagement scores and a 10x market cap increase. Now in his next chapter, Garry reflects on his legacy, his book Any Dumbass Can Do It, and his mission to help leaders embrace humility, connection, and courage. This episode is a masterclass in values-based leadership. Whether you're a CEO, team lead, or just starting out, this episode will equip you to lead with more purpose, courage, and connection. Garry’s approach proves that when people feel like they belong and know their work matters, business transformation naturally follows.CHAPTERS:00:00 Introducing Garry Ridge01:30 WD-40: From legacy brand to global leadership example03:00 93% employee engagement: What drove it?04:30 Why WD-40 eliminated the word “manager”06:30 Culture equation: Values + Behavior × Consistency08:00 Redefining company purpose as creating lasting memories10:00 Value-based decision-making in action12:30 How values protect and set you free14:00 Purpose, values, and trust across global teams16:00 You don’t manage people—you coach them18:00 Building a Leadership Academy for real development20:00 From micromanaging to empowering22:00 Culture embedded in bricks and mortar23:00 Happy people create a happy world24:00 The deeper meaning behind Any Dumbass Can Do It26:00 Marshall Goldsmith’s advice that sparked the book28:00 Preparing to leave with purpose and legacy30:00 Garry’s coaching pillars: Care, candor, accountability, responsibility31:00 Final call to action: Lead people to the best version of themselvesSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Michael Chernow joins Michelle Johnston to share his powerful journey from addiction and adversity to wellness and entrepreneurial success. With vulnerability and clarity, he opens up about childhood trauma, substance abuse, recovery, and the driving force behind his thriving businesses—including The Meatball Shop, Seymours, and Kreatures of Habit. He reveals how connection, emotional intelligence, and prioritizing relationships have been central to his transformation. Now, as he launches a sober coaching community for men—SoberFit Dude—Michael aims to help others strip life down to its essentials and rediscover their purpose. This conversation is about resilience, intentional living, and choosing heart-led leadership every step of the way.00:00 Meet Michael Chernow01:20 The journey from meatballs to mindfulness02:45 Childhood trauma and early struggles06:30 Cry for love: A suicide attempt at 1208:50 Substance abuse and searching for identity10:30 The overdose that changed everything12:00 Finding a mentor and the daily recovery plan14:00 Love, marriage, and intentional family life16:00 Dinner table rituals that transformed connection17:40 The birth of The Meatball Shop20:00 Rapid success and growing pains22:30 Launching Seymours and lessons in leadership25:00 Food Porn, EQ, and media magic27:30 Leaving restaurants to launch Kreatures of Habit29:20 Connection as currency31:00 The Harvard study on relationships and health33:00 Heart-led leadership and learning the hard way35:00 Launching SoberFit Dude38:00 Ditching the smartphone for real life41:00 The real seismic shift: reclaiming presence43:00 Final reflections and staying heart-firstSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Bestselling author and workplace culture advocate Mita Mallick joins Michelle Johnston to unpack why loyalty is dead in today’s workforce, what younger generations expect from employers, and how leaders must adapt to shifting cultural norms. Drawing from her new book The Devil Emails at Midnight, Mita shares powerful stories and practical advice on modern leadership, grief, working motherhood, and the importance of human connection in corporate settings. This honest and inspiring conversation highlights how good leaders are made—not born—and how self-care and vulnerability play essential roles in the workplace of the future. This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating leadership in a post-pandemic, digitally-driven, emotionally exhausted world.00:00 Welcome + Introducing Mita Mallick01:17 Why Loyalty Is Dead in the Workplace03:30 Gen Z vs Employer Expectations05:50 Generational Disconnect and Work-Life Shifts06:36 How to Earn Flexibility as a Young Professional08:14 Why Managing Output Matters More Than Hours10:23 The Origin of “The Devil Emails at Midnight”14:20 Mita’s Personal Story of Grief and Burnout18:09 How Grief Inspired Her First Book18:59 Building Inclusive Workplaces for Working Parents21:08 Equal Parental Leave and Support Systems23:49 On Being Named Working Mother of the Year25:32 Vision for a Healthier, Human-Centered Workplace29:35 Alternatives to Midnight Emails32:28 Reimagining Workplace Communication33:24 Closing Words + Where to Find MitaSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Mary Olson-Menzel, national bestselling author and executive coach, joins Michelle K. Johnston to explore how professionals at every stage of their career can reignite their passion, pivot successfully, and thrive in a changing workplace. They discuss Mary’s 10-step pivot program—developed to guide clients from uncertainty to clarity—and how to harness the power of storytelling, intentional networking, and self-awareness. From recent grads to seasoned executives, listeners are reminded that purpose, self-care, and meaningful connection are the cornerstones of sustainable success. This conversation is a roadmap for anyone asking: What’s next?Whether you’re seeking your first job or your final promotion, this conversation will help you find clarity, purpose, and direction. And as Mary puts it so beautifully, “When your light dims, it’s your responsibility to figure out how to turn it back on.”CHAPTERS:01:00 Introducing Mary Olson-Menzel and her career journey02:00 Seismic shifts in the modern workplace03:30 Challenges for new graduates in today's job market05:00 The inspiration behind What Lights You Up06:00 Overview of Mary’s 10-step pivot program07:15 The power of storytelling in interviews09:00 Navigating AI and resume screening10:00 Unlocking the power of your network12:00 LinkedIn Hour of Power strategy14:00 Interview coaching and confidence building15:00 Salary negotiation tips with gratitude17:00 The importance of onboarding18:30 How to pivot roles early in your career20:00 Purpose, passion, and feeling valued21:30 Embracing the squiggly career path23:00 Framing short tenures and job changes24:00 Mary’s superpower: knowing when to pivot26:00 Burnout, self-care, and letting go27:30 Coaching leaders to own their leadership signature29:00 Aligning leadership with authenticity and energy30:00 Final reflections on connection, purpose, and self-prioritization32:00 Where to find What Lights You UpSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Mark Thompson, the #1 CEO coach globally, joins Michelle Johnston to unpack what it truly means to be “CEO Ready” amid today’s relentless pace of seismic change. Recorded in the bustling backdrop of Amsterdam Airport, Mark shares real-world insights from coaching high-profile leaders across the world’s most transformative organizations, including Amazon, Virgin, Google, Schwab, and Zoox.With charm, candor, and clarity, Mark dives into what makes great leaders stand out: emotional connection, relentless learning, and a clear sense of service. He unpacks the concept of driverless leadership—both metaphorically and literally—as he reflects on his work with Zoox and the societal shift from control to connection. Michelle and Mark explore how AI is reshaping our lives, why CEOs must now lead with humanity, and how leaders must give up independence to gain greater impact through collaboration.You’ll hear stories featuring Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, Arthur Levinson, and even astronaut training on the Zero-G “vomit comet.” Mark also reveals his latest personal challenge: completing his doctoral degree and writing his new book, CEO Readiness, for Harvard Business Review Press. He outlines the R.E.A.D.Y. model—Relationships, External perspective, Agility, Differentiation, and Your Why—providing a practical roadmap for anyone aspiring to lead with purpose.This episode is a masterclass in modern leadership. It's about redefining success, reimagining influence, and remembering what matters most: human connection, legacy, and the courage to evolve.CHAPTERS:00:00 Letting Go of the Old Paradigm00:24 Michelle Introduces Mark Thompson02:46 Mark Reflects on Coaching Top CEOs03:29 The Secret Sauce of Coaching Success05:49 Why Alignment and Commitment Matter06:48 Seismic Shifts in Leadership07:33 Navigating Constant Change08:40 Zoox, AI, and Driverless Culture11:38 From Drivers to Passengers12:27 Reclaiming Connection Over Control14:29 Letting Robots Handle the Risk15:23 Redefining Leadership in the AI Era16:01 Richard Branson, Bezos & Launching Ventures19:24 Marshall Goldsmith’s Advice and Legacy21:15 Leaving Schwab to Fund the Future23:20 The Journey Toward Space25:59 Inside the Making of CEO Readiness29:15 Should You Even Be a CEO?32:13 Legacy, Impact, and Purpose32:53 Lessons from the All-Star Team36:59 Best Practices for Leadership Excellence37:18 The R.E.A.D.Y. Framework for CEO Success39:53 Final Thoughts and Takeaways40:17 Gratitude and Book Launch CelebrationSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Leadership today demands more than command and control. In this powerful conversation between Michelle and bestselling author Selena Rezvani, the two explore what it takes to lead in a way that’s sustainable, human, and effective in the modern workplace. Selena shares the deeply personal story behind her passion for people-first leadership—losing her father at 13 due to work-induced stress—and how that moment shaped her mission to reduce suffering at work. Her new book, Quick Leadership, is a practical guide for leaders who want to build trust, empower teams, and lead with compassion, all without sacrificing performance. Michelle and Selena explore specific, tactical leadership advice and emphasize the need for psychological safety, authentic storytelling, and co-creation, especially as Gen Z emerges as a significant force in the workforce. If you're a manager, team leader, or aspiring changemaker, this episode will leave you equipped and inspired to show up differently—smarter, more human, and more effective.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome & Selena's Book Launch01:00 The Personal Story Behind Selena's Mission03:00 What It Means to Reduce Suffering at Work05:00 Quick Leadership Tip: Ask 3 Before You Answer07:30 Give Praise Like Confetti10:00 Why Leaders Resist Human-Centered Leadership12:30 Vulnerability and Authenticity in Leadership14:00 Why Selena's TikToks Go Viral16:00 Seismic Shifts: Leadership's Impact on Mental Health18:00 Skepticism and the Return of Command & Control20:30 Building Exciting, Innovative Work Cultures22:00 The Power of Psychological Safety24:00 Understanding Gen Z’s Expectations26:00 Practical Ways to Co-Create with Gen Z29:00 Shared Leadership Opportunities in Meetings31:00 Summary of Quick Leadership & Final ThoughtsSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Chief Heart Officer Claude Silver (VaynerMedia/VaynerX) joins Michelle to unpack why the real “seismic shift” at work is bringing our humanity back. From emotional intelligence and psychological safety to trust, belonging, and authentic leadership, Claude lays out a practical roadmap leaders can use today—especially with Gen Z and Gen Alpha demanding purpose, flexibility, and voice. Claude shares her non-linear journey to becoming a Chief Heart Officer, the three-part structure of her book Be Yourself at Work (you → team → culture), and tangible moves to show up with heart—starting with knowing your non-negotiables and strengths. If you’re trying to attract and retain top talent, reduce burnout, and build a culture where people actually want to stay, this conversation is your playbook. Chapters 00:01 — Welcome & You → Team → Culture Framework02:49 — Gen Z & Gen Alpha at Work05:06 — Why Old Playbooks Fail05:57 — The Splinter Analogy06:52 — Building Trust & Belonging07:19 — Psychological Safety in Hybrid Work10:36 — Autonomy, Flexibility & Hybrid10:45 — Feedback Without Fear12:01 — Emotional Optimism: The Success Recipe14:40 — Self-Awareness as a Leader32:01 — Closing Takeaways from ClaudeSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Season 4 of the Seismic Shift podcast is here—and it’s all about the seismic shifts in you. Host Michelle Johnston tees up a season packed with practical tips you can use right away to create more connection and drive better results at work and in life. Expect candid insights, actionable takeaways, and stories that challenge how you lead, communicate, and collaborate.This season, she's joined by some incredible voices, including Marshall Goldsmith (co-author of her latest book, The Seismic Shift in You), Mita Mallick (author of The Devil Emails at Midnight), and Claude Silver, the first-ever Chief Heart Officer at Vayner Media, to name a few. From leadership habits to culture-building and human-centered performance, each conversation zeroes in on what actually moves the needle—so you can grow yourself and your team. Special thanks to Loyola University New Orleans for their generous support.
Season 4 begins with world-renowned executive coach Marshall Goldsmith joining Michelle Johnston to discuss the groundbreaking leadership insights behind their co-authored book, The Seismic Shift in You. Broadcasting from their experience at Thinkers50 in London, they share the seven critical shifts every leader must embrace to stay relevant in a world reshaped by AI, remote work, and cultural transformation. With stories from Alan Mulally, Frances Hesselbein, and Gary Ridge, the conversation dives into practical ways to foster connection, reshape meetings, manage calendars, and elevate energy. Goldsmith also reveals how AI, including his own MarshallBot, is redefining coaching and thought leadership. This is not soft leadership. These are hard skills that generate hard results. You'll walk away inspired to lead differently—more connected, more human, and more effective.CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to Marshall Goldsmith01:00 Birth of the Book at Thinkers5002:30 Seismic Shifts Facing Leaders Today04:00 Connection as a Leadership Imperative05:20 Embracing AI: MarshallBot and the Future of Coaching07:00 Michelle Learns Prompt Engineering from Marshall10:00 Free Coaching: The Gift of MarshallBot11:30 AI’s Role in Leadership Development14:00 The Seven Seismic Shifts Overview15:00 Transforming Meetings into Conversations18:00 Reshaping Your Calendar to Reflect Priorities21:00 Making Virtual Meetings More Human23:00 How to End Meetings with Impact25:00 Alan Mulally and the Power of Red-Yellow-Green27:00 Gary Ridge and Creating Meaning at WD-4029:30 Energy as a Leadership Asset33:30 Final Thoughts from Marshall & MichelleSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5bInstagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Bestselling author and renowned communication strategist Sam Horn joins Michelle on this week’s episode of The Seismic Shift to share the transformative power of language in leadership and life. Drawing from her latest book Talking on Eggshells, Sam walks listeners through a series of seismic shifts in language that will help reduce tension, boost connection, and strengthen leadership presence.From hospitals to boardrooms, Sam shares real world stories that highlight how common phrases like “you need to,” “should,” or “no, we can’t” often backfire, eroding relationships and escalating conflict. In their place she offers alternative language that frames requests positively, fosters cooperation, and helps leaders connect rather than command.Whether you're dealing with difficult conversations, wanting to craft more positive internal dialogue, or working to create a healthier culture, this episode provides a roadmap to better communication. Michelle and Sam also discuss the link between communication and connection, and how words can create emotional safety in personal and professional settings. This episode isn’t just about semantics—it’s about reshaping your conversations to shape your results. Sam’s insights are simple to implement, and will no doubt leave a lasting difference on how people lead, relate, and live.CHAPTERS:00:00 Words to Lose, Words to Use01:17 Meet Sam Horn03:55 Seismic Shifts in Communication06:05 Replacing “Should” with “Next Time”07:12 Avoiding “No” and “Can’t Because”08:02 Power of Reframing Apologies11:28 Situational Awareness in Communication13:35 Ditch the Word “But”17:14 Shift “There’s Nothing” to “There’s Something”19:51 The Impact of “You Have To” vs. Courtesy22:41 Ordering at Home and Work24:46 Deny vs. Reframe in Accusations25:21 Communicating the Vision27:03 Words That Shape Environments29:09 Banning the Word “Problem”29:48 Return on Connection Through Language30:20 Final Thoughts from Sam Horn31:17 Closing and GratitudeSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeismicShiftwithMichelle LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5b Instagram: instagram.com/michellekjohnston Website: https://michellekjohnston.com/
Global connection strategist Andy Lopata joins Michelle for an eye-opening conversation about the true meaning of networking and why it's undergoing a seismic shift right now. Far from the outdated perception of awkward meet-and-greets and LinkedIn ads, Andy reframes networking as “professional relationship strategy,” a shift that has not only elevated his own career but is also transforming how leaders approach connection.Andy shares how his years of building networking businesses evolved into a calling to help others understand the deep value of intentional relationships. He and Michelle then dive into the seven stages of professional relationships, the "Four I’s" model, and take a look at why knowing how people can help is just as important as who you know.Michelle and Andy also tackle the loneliness epidemic and discuss why in-person connection—whether it’s a business cruise, a coffee catch-up, or a spontaneous detour through the English countryside—is vital for personal and professional well-being. Packed with practical insights and real-life examples, this conversation will inspire listeners to rethink their calendars, prioritize “connection cadences,” and rediscover the value of showing up—not just on Zoom, but at your next team meet-up. CHAPTERS:00:00 The cost of losing eye contact in virtual connection02:25 Andy's story: From family business to global strategist04:55 The seismic shift in global work and mentoring08:06 Hybrid work: Productivity vs. connection10:01 From networking to professional relationship strategy13:05 Why redefining networking changed everything15:05 Peaks in popularity: Why connection matters more in uncertain times18:37 The ROI of in-person interaction22:41 Snorkeling, business retreats & seeing beneath the surface24:59 The “Connection Espresso” principle27:50 Generational gaps and the reality of remote work30:45 Andy’s relationship strategy: Build, nurture, leverage31:33 Curiosity, vulnerability, and asking for help32:17 Connection, energy, and gratitudeSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
On today’s episode of The Seismic Shift, Michelle welcomes Dr. Laura Hambley Lovett, a leading organizational psychologist and authority on workplace wellness, for a candid conversation about toxic leadership and the damage it inflicts on individuals and companies alike. With decades of experience helping people and organizations flourish, Dr. Laura explains how innovation, productivity, and mental well-being all suffer under toxic leadership.During their candid conversation listeners will learn how to distinguish between a "difficult" and a "toxic" boss—a crucial insight that determines whether a leader can be coached or must be removed. Dr. Laura introduces her original research outlining eight toxic boss personas, ranging from the egomaniac to the gaslighter, shedding light on behaviors that erode trust, cause burnout, and lead to lasting psychological harm.Michelle also talks about her own professional journey, including the cost of mimicking authoritarian leadership early in her career, and the relief and success that came when she led with authenticity and empathy. This powerful episode serves as a rallying cry to eradicate toxic leadership and prioritize workplace cultures where people can thrive. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or simply trying to survive a harmful boss, Dr. Laura’s research and Michelle’s wisdom offer critical insight and a way forward.CHAPTERS:00:00 Innovation Needs Healthy Leadership01:32 Meet Dr. Laura Hambley Lovett02:20 Her Path to Becoming “Dr. Laura”04:42 Human-Centric Workplaces Post-Pandemic07:08 Seismic Shifts & Toxic Hotspots09:57 Difficult vs. Toxic Bosses13:41 The 8 Toxic Boss Personas16:24 Health Impacts of Toxic Leadership19:45 Why People Stay Too Long21:53 A Vision for Healthy Workplaces24:32 Why CEOs Must Take This Seriously28:05 Metrics to Detect Toxic Leadership31:26 Advice for Vetting Future Bosses33:22 Final Words: “I Wish I’d Quit Sooner”Special thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
From being cut in Spain to coaching in the NBA, and from writing cold letters to becoming a bestselling author and global speaker, David Nurse's path defies traditional success playbooks. In this episode, David Nurse, a former professional basketball player and NBA coach turned elite performance strategist, bestselling author, and one of the top 50 keynote speakers in the world, sits down with host Michelle Johnston to unpack the mindset tools and energetic strategies that elevate leaders beyond grind culture into a sustainable rhythm of achievement and joy.David Nurse is known for his transformative approach to mindset. He has trained over 150 NBA players and works with top executives and organizations to unlock next-level leadership and peak performance. He is the author of several acclaimed books including Pivot & Go and Breakthrough, and is the host of The David Nurse Show. With a blend of athletic rigor and psychological insight, David inspires global audiences to shift perspectives, harness energy, and lead lives rooted in joy, connection, and purpose.In this episode, David reveals how pivotal moments—like being released from a pro team or getting fired from an NBA coaching job—became catalysts for reinvention. With wisdom born from real-world setbacks, he emphasizes that doors don’t close, they pivot into patios. He shares how his mom’s metaphor about beachfront opportunities reshaped his worldview and lit the path forward.He speaks candidly about what’s holding most high performers back: not time, but energy and attentionality. He outlines systems for daily success, including morning routines, the power of perspective, flow state optimization, and intentional end-of-day rituals. David's life is living proof that discipline creates freedom, and he empowers listeners with tools like the “bucket of lies vs truths,” “mental dictatorship,” and “the SNAP method” to shift from stress to strategy.Michelle and David explore the seismic shifts in leadership culture, away from hustle-as-worth and toward holistic, human-centered performance. Whether you’re a CEO, an emerging leader, or just seeking more purpose in your day, this conversation offers a blueprint for living and leading with presence, positivity, and possibility.CHAPTERS:00:00 Meet David Nurse: From Pro Ball to Performance Coach03:02 The Spain Cut & The Beachfront Metaphor07:45 Handwritten Letters and NBA Coaching Dreams12:18 Fired & Pivoting to Purpose16:00 The Energy Shift: Beyond Hustle Culture20:11 Routines, Flow State & the SNAP Technique24:39 Time Bucketing, Big 3s & Daily Resets29:13 Leading with Energy & Intentional Recharge32:00 Mindset Tools: Lies, Truths, and Crushing Ants34:26 The Flow Code Project & What’s Next for DavidSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
After a seismic career and life shift, Todd Vande Hei reemerged with a revolutionary take on health. In this powerful conversation, Todd opens up about losing everything during the 2008 economic collapse and how that dark season became the unlikely foundation of his life’s work—building Stark, a human optimization company for elite professionals.Todd discusses the health challenges that plagued him for decades: seizures, chronic migraines, joint pain, and a state of perpetual burnout fueled by overachievement and hyper-vigilance. These challenges prompted him to reject fragmented healthcare and build a team-based, metrics-driven model inspired by business strategy. He explains how viewing the body like a company—complete with KPIs, quarterly goals, and aligned functional teams—can transform even the busiest executive’s approach to wellness.You'll gain practical strategies for reclaiming your health, including how to implement “walking meetings,” protein-first nutrition, strength and mobility routines, and advanced sleep hygiene. Todd also unpacks why most high achievers resist lifestyle changes—and how to design wellness tactics that blend into real life without requiring more time.Michelle and Todd explore what it means to evolve from grinding effort into wisdom-based leadership, and how emotional health is essential for long-term performance. For leaders stuck on the hamster wheel, this episode is an invitation to rethink success—and embrace health as a strategic advantage.Whether you're building a business, leading a team, or simply trying to regain balance, Todd’s story and science-backed advice will resonate deeply and inspire immediate action.CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to Todd VandeHei02:15 From Carpet Industry to Health Transformation05:20 Starting Stark During Personal Crisis08:45 Health Breakdown: Seizures, Migraines, Chronic Issues13:00 Frustrations with Traditional Healthcare15:30 Creating a Holistic Health Team19:00 Type A Burnout and Hyper-Vigilance23:15 Turning Health into a Measurable Strategy26:00 Walking Meetings & Leveraging Tech28:30 Weekly Routine: Strength, Cardio, Mobility31:00 Mobility Training & Permanent Gains33:00 The 3 Health Shifts: Sleep, Walk, Protein35:00 Final Advice for Executives on Reclaiming HealthSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
Michael Bungay Stanier doesn’t just write books—he starts movements. In this energizing conversation with Michelle, the celebrated author of The Coaching Habit and How to Work with Almost Anyone shares the seismic shifts that changed how we lead, connect, and collaborate at work.Together, they discuss how effective leadership is moving away from advice-giving toward deeper connection, and why asking the right questions upfront can make or break a relationship. Michael explains the origin of his latest book—sparked from a “failed” manuscript and refined into a transformative guide—and details the five questions that form what he calls a “Keystone Conversation.” From stories of co-authoring challenges to funny missteps in innovation consulting, Michael blends humor, vulnerability, and wisdom in a way that only he can and listeners will learn how understanding each other’s best, preferences, and past patterns can elevate a project from stressful to successful.Michelle also shares her own leadership practices—like her "connection walks" and reflections from co-writing her new book with Marshall Goldsmith. They unpack how small shifts in how we begin working relationships can result in massive gains in trust, productivity, and joy. Whether you're leading a team, co-authoring a book, or collaborating on a project, this episode offers rich, immediately applicable takeaways for working better—with just about anyone.CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to Michael Bungay Stanier 02:30 Michael’s journey from Oxford to bestselling author 07:50 From innovation consultant to self-published success 10:25 The Coaching Habit and shifting away from advice-giving 13:00 Why connection is the foundation of leadership 15:10 The origin of How to Work with Almost Anyone 18:45 The Keystone Conversation: five essential questions 23:40 Designing relationships, not just doing the work 27:10 Vulnerability, repair, and preventing misalignment 30:00 Upcoming seismic shift: improving how change happens 32:30 Final thoughts and thank youSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
What’s your next move? Cynthia Bentzen-Mercer joins this week’s episode of The Seismic Shift to help mid-career professionals, especially women, become more intentional about their career paths. In today’s conversation with Michelle, Cynthia shares her journey from corporate leadership to executive coaching, highlighting some key shifts in the modern workplace.Drawing from over 30 years in corporate leadership, Cynthia walks us through her insights on overcoming workplace biases, advocating for oneself, and creating opportunities for advancement. Together Cynthia and Michelle emphasize the power of connection, energy management, and setting boundaries to ensure women actively shape their professional futures rather than waiting to be noticed.Towards the end of their conversation Cynthia also introduces the concept of "zeal"—bringing energy and intentionality to personal and professional growth. If you’re ready to stop waiting and start actively shaping your career, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you move forward with confidence.Check out Cynthia’s book—Now, Near, Next here: https://www.amazon.com/Now-Near-Next-Professional-Serendipity/dp/1637558937. CHAPTERS:00:00 The Power of Intentionality02:08 Cynthia’s Journey from Corporate Leadership to Coaching06:09 The Hidden Risks of Remote Work for Women10:10 Why Intentional Connection is Crucial16:38 Energy Management and Finding Your Strengths19:56 The Importance of Self-Advocacy24:08 Setting Boundaries and Prioritizing Yourself31:27 Three Steps to Advance Your CareerSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
What if the key to success, happiness, and fulfillment lies in designing a life filled with connection? Dr. Ruth Gotian and Ayse Birsel bring their expertise in high performance and human-centered design to this episode of The Seismic Shift—exploring the shifts that redefine leadership, collaboration, and friendship.Along with Michelle, Ruth and Ayse recount their journey of meeting through the 100 Coaches group, their mutual mentor Marshall Goldsmith, and how their shared passion for mentorship and collaboration led them to co-author insightful articles on connection-driven workplaces. Together they introduce the concept of “Friendship Factories” and explain how leaders can foster environments where trust and relationships thrive.This conversation is filled with wisdom on trust, leadership, and the power of human connection. Whether you're a leader looking to create a more connected workplace or simply someone seeking to strengthen personal relationships, you’ll undoubtedly leave with valuable takeaways! Learn more about Ruth on her website: https://ruthgotian.com/. Connect with Ayse on her website: https://www.aysebirsel.com/. CHAPTERS00:00 - The Power of Positive Intent & Trust01:15 - Introducing Dr. Ruth Gotian & Ayse Birsel02:51 - How Ayse’s Design Thinking Shaped Her Career05:05 - The Origin of 100 Coaches & Knowledge Philanthropy10:44 - Finding Connection in Times of Loss13:10 - Why Disconnection is Killing Us15:14 - The Concept of “Friendship Factories”18:23 - The Importance of Laughter and Levity at Work20:33 - Trust, Superpowers & Workplace Friendships26:39 - Designing Workspaces for Connection & Collaboration32:40 - The Seismic Shift Moments of Ruth & AyseSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire
AI is transforming the workplace, and leaders must adapt—or risk becoming obsolete. In this episode, Ted Elliott, CEO of Capado, shares how AI is reshaping DevOps, business strategy, and workplace culture. He explains how Capado’s "AI-first" approach helped the company turn a financial deficit into growth, and why AI should be embraced rather than feared.Ted discusses how AI can help leaders become better listeners by summarizing key insights from meetings, ensuring follow-ups, and fostering psychological safety. He shares how Capado’s AI-driven approach has helped teams work more efficiently while reducing burnout.Ted also reveals how Capado made a bold statement at Dreamforce with an AI-generated children’s book and a wrapped Cybertruck that turned heads across San Francisco. He explains how effective messaging, clear communication, and a focus on the "why" help companies differentiate themselves and build stronger connections.If you're a leader navigating AI, this episode is for you. Learn how to stay ahead of the curve, create an engaged workforce, and harness AI to drive success.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome to The Seismic Shift02:30 Ted Elliott’s Journey into DevOps05:45 The Seismic Shifts in the Tech Industry10:20 AI’s Impact on Workforce Efficiency14:15 Why Leaders Must Adapt or Risk Obsolescence17:40 AI-Driven Listening & Psychological Safety22:30 How Capado Uses AI for Business Growth26:45 Creative Messaging at Dreamforce30:10 The Importance of Connection & Community34:20 Closing Thoughts & Call to ActionSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Hearts On Fire














