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Richard Ngo is a leading AI philosopher and researcher, formerly at OpenAI and DeepMind. We discuss what life looks like once we have AGI and how every aspect of the human experience could change.TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Introduction01:44 – Technology as an Inequality Engine03:52 – AI as a Personal Tutor vs. Distraction Machine06:11 – Therapy, Coaching, and Emotional Mediation09:16 – The Future of Work and the Socio-Political Economy13:15 – Relationships, Intimacy, and AI Companions19:03 – Marriage Decline and the Birth Rate Crisis22:15 – Speed of Change and Political Control23:55 – Human Augmentation and Speciation30:52 – Comparing Artificial Intelligence to Natural Intelligence35:57 – Religion, Continuity, and Identity in the Future37:26 – China vs. the U.S. in AI Governance39:39 – Why Richard Left OpenAI43:43 – Drones, Simulation, Power, and More
Autograph’s Co-founder Tom Brady is widely known. The other co-founder, and CEO, is Dillon Rosenblatt, a 24 year old, second time founder. Dillon first began his entrepreneurial journey when he started Tutors, a company to connect tutors and students, at age 15. After attending USC’s Iovine and Young Academy for entrepreneurship, he explored the idea of starting a crypto hedge fund which began a deep dive exploration into the space that eventually led him to build Autograph.
In this episode, host Sabrina Halper and Dillon Rosenblatt discuss
Inception of Autograph:
-What first drew Dillon into the NFT space
-How he got Tom Brady and DraftKings on board
-Who he sees as the consumer & user of Autograph
Differentiated Approach:
-Dillon’s plans to expand
-Why he wouldn’t bring Autograph into the NFT-tooling space
-Dillon’s approach to building out collections that would keep users engaged with the product and brand
-How he thinks about virality and shareability within the collections
Putting the Autograph board together:
-Dillon’s reflections on building a board of moguls and earning the support of industry leaders (crypto: Sam Bankman-Fried, Katie Haun, etc.) (Sports: Tiger Woods, Tony Hawk, Simone Biles etc.) (Entertainment; The Weeknd, Head of Lionsgate, COO of Spotify)
-When to ask for advice vs when to trust your gut
Future of NFTs:
-Web2 vs Web3
-Autograph’s plan to enter the metaverse and offer crypto-native products
-His views on what role “passion” NFTs will play in the future ecosystem
-Dillon responds to: “Are NFT’s a bubble?” and “Will people spend money on NFTs during a recession?”
-Dillon’s opinion on Ethereum as a long term base for NFTs
Personal reflections:
-His reflections on how to learn quickly and act as a young CEO
-Why he’s optimistic about the future
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In this debut episode, host Sabrina Halper sits down with Henrique Dubugras, the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Brex, a credit card and financial toolkit for startups, valued at $12.3B. As a 16 year old living in the middle of Brazil, Henrique founded Pagar.me, which did over $1.5B in sales. He then went on to attend Stanford University for 6 months, until dropping out to join Y Combinator and start Brex with his co-founder Pedro Franceschi. At 26 years old, he’s a second time founder who runs one of the most prominent fintech companies in Silicon Valley. In this conversation, he discusses his personal motivations, his views on crypto, and why he’s extremely optimistic about the future.
Moxie Marlinspike founded Signal, the nonprofit privacy messenger used by millions. He’s now building Confer, a fully private, end-to-end encrypted AI chat. This conversation covers everything.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro 01:09 Building Physical World Projects Centered on Experiences07:43 Tales from Hitchhiking15:04 The Birth of Signal22:23 Privacy in the Digital Age31:21 Introducing Confer: Private AI Chat37:17 Generative AI and Developer Responsibility38:21 Encryption and Cryptography: A Historical Perspective39:15 Skepticism Towards Crypto41:24 The Impact of Self-Publishing and Cancel Culture44:01 Imagining MoxieLand49:41 Why Do Conspiracy Theories Exist58:00 Signal Gate1:02:30 Limits of Solo Ambitions1:05:09 Solving Aging1:09:00 Moxie’s Next Physical World Project FOLLOW:Follow MoxieSign up for ConferFollow SabrinaPlease support this show by subscribing!
Ken Liu: Renowned sci-fi author of The Paper Menagerie, The Hidden Girl and Other Stories, and his new book All That We See or Seem; producer of Pantheon; futurist who works with world governments to prepare for what’s ahead. TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Introduction(1:41) Mechanism vs meaning: what science explains vs what stories explain(5:47) What is consciousness, really?(6:42) Psychedelics and the mystery of the mind(7:55) Can intelligence exist without consciousness?(12:10) How mind-uploading might actually work (and the Singularity)(19:15 — Falling in love with AI - why “imaginary companions” aren’t new(23:40) Modern day myths around romantic love (27:15) Preservation vs. transformation of humanity (32:37) When technical skill disappears: what is craft?(40:00) When using AI actually makes us feel more human(41:05) Writing, imagination, and “All That We See or Seem”(47:35) Dreams, reality, and how we know what’s real(54:45) Privacy in an age of digital selves(58:03) Data, the commons, and how knowledge should be sharedFollow Ken: https://x.com/kyliu99 Buy his new book All That We See or Seem : https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Seem-Julia-Novel/dp/1668083175When will AI become conscious and how would we even know if it did? We talk about the decoupling of intelligence and consciousness in today's LLMs, and the ethical questions in regulating models.Ken walks me through a thought experiment to understand the singularity: what uploading our minds might actually look like, a theme explored in his Netflix series Pantheon. If we replace our minds piece by piece with silicon, at what point do “we” disappear? In the age of AI, when many technical skills are made obsolete, who are the experts of craft? We explore why falling in love with AI may be grounded in our religious history, and is an act of falling in love with our own reflection. We discuss how phones have killed daydreaming and access to the collective unconscious, and the mysteries of psychedelics, natural intelligence, and the universe at large. “We are willing to die for the sake of a story. In fact, it’s the only thing humans have ever willingly died for.” Most of human life, Ken argues, has two levels of explanation: 1.Evolution & 2.Stories — the way we make sense of the world and find meaning in it.
Isabelle Boemeke went from Brazilian model to the internet’s most creative nuclear advocate who led the largest pro nuclear rally in US history. In this episode, we talk about nuclear energy's wild history, political drama, and what America’s energy grid needs to look like to keep up with the future demands.Shownotes: 0:00 : Introduction1:37 : Growing up in rural Brazil3:44 : Getting to the United States5:15 : Reading Richard Dawkins, getting involved in the climate movement, learning about nuclear12:05 : A historical deep dive: What went wrong with nuclear energy?24:32 : What really happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl - separating fear from facts.30:43 : Deaths from Nuclear Vs. Fossil Fuels37:15 : Nuclear Proliferation Risk42:17 : Gaps in the US supply chain & AI’s need for more energy49:40 : Promise vs. reality of SMRs (Small modular reactors)54:54 : Designing energy grid for the US59:10 : Why are Germany, Taiwan, and Australia shutting down nuclear energy programs?1:02:10 : Saving California’s last nuclear plant Diablo Canyon1:08:24 : Today’s nuclear renaissance
Isa Fulford is only a few years out of school and is already the mind behind Deep Research and ChatGPT Agent - two of the most important and ambitious projects at OpenAI. She’s a close friend from our Stanford days, someone I adore, and someone the world is going to hear a lot more about in coming years.We talk about how her upbringing and violin training shaped the discipline behind her professional work. Isa breaks down how these systems were built, how they think, and where AI is heading, from agents talking to agents to a future where humans guide the work instead of doing it.SHOWNOTES: 0:00 Introduction 1:50 Early life, math, music, and discipline 4:40 Stanford, Journey into AI, & joining OpenAI 7:15 Deep Research, building datasets, & early indications 11:35 Building ChatGPT Agent 13:47 What comes next from OpenAI? 15:58 Personal Use of AI 16:40 Future of Internet + Agent Communication 19:03 Personal AI agents 20:06 Safety Risks 22:44 AGI 24:03 Agents for personal growth 25:00 How AI is changing the way we work 27:43 Talent war and poaching 28:30 Lessons from Sam Altman: raise ambition level 30:18 Rapid questionsEPISODE LINKS: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SabrinaHalperApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sabrina-halper-show/id1627753991
In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with DAOuda Leonard, Grimes' manager and founder of music tech studio CreateSafe, which just launched its generative AI-powered platform Triniti. Triniti enables artists to create an AI voice clone, generate text-to-audio samples, ask a chatbot music industry-related questions, monetize creations and manage music IP.
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In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with Eric Jang. Eric is the VP of AI at 1X Technologies, a humanoid robot company built to benefit society, with investment led by OpenAI. He also published AI is Good for You, a book about the last 10 Years and the next 10 Years of Artificial Intelligence (link to buy attached below). Previously, Eric was a senior research scientist at Google on their robotics team.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Highlights
(2:53) - Intro
(3:32) - The outdated political system & AI's applications for campaigns7:55 - Debating ideas with AI "champions"
(9:20) - How Meta's VR Quest headset could be a humanoid robot, data engines for AI
(13:20) - Building genuine AI companionship
(18:26) - AI chatbots as sparring partners and improving peoples' social capabilities
(20:45) - Can we achieve AGI through online, text-only data? Or do we need a data engine such as VR, robots, or cars?
(24:20) - How to acquire and label "truth" for LLMs?30:00 - How far are we from AGI? How do you define AGI?
(32:20) - Should we be modeling AI systems after biology and replicating nature-inspired architectures?36:00 - Confronting workforce disruption of humanoid robots, 1X's approach39:00 - Lump of labor fallacy, 10X-ing workforces
(40:10) - Security risks of humanoid robots, high leverage technology = risk
(42:35) - Engineering hardware to mimic the human body, lack of robotics parts
(46:04) - Why is now the right time to invest and build in general purpose robots?
(48:25) - Visualizing a post-AGI future of abundance & utopia situation
(52:27) - What will our relationship to robots look like and which hierarchies will exist? How to engineer an equality dynamic
(55:50) - The academia vs start-up landscape in AI and why some researches are going back to academia
(59:54) - Criticisms of the effective altruist and AI safety communities
(1:04:20) - Good policies and models for regulation, issues with regulation today
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In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with renowned entrepreneur Martin Varsavsky. Martin has founded five unicorn companies across industries. He discusses his cutting edge work in the fertility space and how technology will revolutionize our biology.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Intro
(1:30) - Catalyst for building in fertility
(3:00) - Reasons for increased infertility in society
(7:00) - Climate change and overpopulation narrative
(10:00) - Reasons for declining birth rates & how to design a society that combats this
(16:40) - Europe vs America on abortion, surrogacy, and the anti-science movements
(22:00) - How to decrease the cost of fertility treatments by an order of magnitude
(27:15) - Embryo selection vs CRISPR
(32:34) - Mapping out IQ to a gene, editing for intelligence
(34:00) - How regulation of CRISPR will vary between China and the west
(36:00) - The potential disparity between humans, and the context of AI
(37:20) - Why evolution doesn't work anymore
(39:40) - Why humans may speciate and evolve into multiple species
(41:59) - Is CRISPR happening today? 45:30 - In-vitro gametogenesis (IVG)
(47:00) - What having a baby will look like in the future
(49:05) - Male birth control, longevity, gene therapy
(52:00) - Martin's philosophy around company building
(54:15) - Having clear views around where the future is going
(58:00) - Fast-paced popcorn questions: space, Einstein, quantum physics
(1:00:30) - Outro
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Delian Asparouhov is the co-founder of Varda Space, the startup that is manufacturing products in space to benefit life on Earth. He is also a partner at Founders Fund.
The first 30 minutes of this episode cover all things space: Varda, investing and building in Space, Elon's role in pushing the industry forward, working in highly-regulated industries, inception of ideas.
The second 30 minutes go deep into Delian's personal path into venture, lessons from his first company, what personal characteristics define the best founders, lessons he learned from his mentors, which investment sectors he sees as being the next wave, and some fun fast facts.
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Maddie Hall is the co-founder and CEO of Living Carbon, a plant bio-tech company growing genetically modified poplars and pines capable of absorbing much more carbon dioxide from the atmosphere than regular trees. Previously, she worked on special projects at Y Combinator and OpenAI.
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Tye Sheridan, the lead actor in films such as Ready Player One, X-Men, and Mud, and Nikola Todorovic, award-winning filmmaker and visual effects supervisor, met on a set in 2016. They quickly became best friends, and eventually cofounders of Wonder Dynamics, a company building AI software that makes VFX special effects affordable and accessible on a browser, ultimately empowering a whole new generation of people to create new types of content that were previously reserved for big-budget studios. Today, they are about to launch to the public after compiling hundreds of thousands of users on their waitlist, and an advisory board that includes the likes of Steven Spielberg.
We discuss how AI will empower filmmakers, Hollywood’s history with innovation, how content will change, their personal journey's, and much more.
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HOF Capital is a global multistage VC firm with $1 billion in AUM that partners with ambitious entrepreneurs from idea to IPO.
Bryan Johnson sits down with HOF investor Sabrina Halper for an in-depth conversation that spans philosophy, biology, and technology. Bryan Johnson is the world's most measured human. He is investing millions to slow and reverse his aging. In 2021, he set a world record by reducing his epigenetic age by 5.1 years in 7 months. In this conversation, Bryan confronts many of the criticisms around his pursuit and presents his vision for the future of humanity.
Previously, Johnson sold his company Braintree Venmo to PayPal for $800M in 2013. Johnson is also the founder of Kernel, creator of the world's first non-invasive neuroimaging system, and OS fund, where he invested $100M in the predictable engineering of atoms, molecules, and organisms into companies now collectively valued over $6B.
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In this episode, Elad sits down with Sabrina Halper for a candid conversation about all things technology. You'll hear his thoughts on:
1.How to develop a long-term career in technology:
-The power of peer groups and cohorts
-Which jobs to pursue
-Re-inventing yourself
-Living in the physical hubs
2.Advice for founders of startups and growth-stage companies:
-Why large companies stagnate and how to avoid it as you scale
-How to think about startup moats and defensibility
-The power of picking the right market
-What led to Twitter's lack of iteration pre-Elon
3.Artificial Intelligence:
-How to pick the winners
-How things might shake up between OpenAI, Google, and Meta/ opensource
-Amazon's play
-Incentives around regulation
-The need for thoughtful cost-benefit analysis
-The best and worst case scenarios of AGI
4.Personal advice on:
-Being a dynamic individual
-Resilience
-Time management
Who is Elad Gil?
Elad Gil is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to companies such as AirBnB, Airtable, Brex, Coinbase, Deel, Figma, Gusto, Instacart, Notion, Pinterest, Rippling, Square, Stripe and others. Elad has invested in 40+ companies worth $1B or more, 30+ of them at the seed or series A. Elad was early to the AI space, running AI-centric products at Twitter (search), Google (ads targeting) and has invested in generative AI companies like Perplexity, Harvey.AI, Character. Elad is a Co-Founder of Color Health, a digital population healthcare delivery company. Elad also founded Mixer Labs, which was acquired by Twitter, and was VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter. Elad received a Ph.D. from MIT and BS and BA in Math from UCSD. He is the author of the bestselling book High Growth Handbook.
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In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with Sahil Lavingia for an in-depth conversation that goes far and wide.
They discuss:
-his journey dropping out of USC to join Pinterest as the 2nd employee
-founding and scaling Gumroad to $100M
-his advice for others looking to build profitable products and companies
-the current AI wave: which companies excite him, what he's been building, how the competitive ecosystem might play out
-AGI and what our future society may look like
-Balaji's Bitcoin bet
-whether TikTok should be banned
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In this episode, Sabrina sits down with Ben Lamm, CEO & Founder of the biotechnology and genetic engineering company Colossal. Ben is a serial entrepreneur who has started several moonshot companies, including AI company Hypergiant. Ben co-founded Colossal alongside renowned geneticist George Church. Together they are working to genetically resurrect key species, such as the wooly mammoth, the Tasmanian tiger, and the dodo to mitigate climate change and protect against the loss of biodiversity. Colossal has raised over $225M in funding. They're currently building cutting-edge technologies such as artificial wombs, multiplex editing, and in vitro gametogenesis.
You’ll learn about how genetic engineering may allow us to protect our coral reefs, bring back extinct animals, and potentially create radiation-resistant humans. You’ll also get Ben’s advice on fundraising, attracting the best talent, and his framework on moonshot thinking.
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In this episode, host Sabrina Halper sits down with Felix Hartmann (Hartmann Capital), Jonathan Ovadia (founder, AEXLABS), and Dr Doom (founder, LIV). The seasoned guests discuss the biggest limitations to the VR industry to date, Meta’s re-brand and $36B investment, how Apple might enter the space, generative AI's role in increasing productivity and building games more efficiently, how augmented reality will integrate into our lives, and the biggest opportunities for founders to build in the space.
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In this episode, special guest host Roon sits down with Matt Krisiloff, the founder of Conception and SciFounders. The pair discuss Conception's work with in vitro gametogenesis: turning stem cells into human eggs, which could potentially allow for same sex couples or older women to have biological children. They also discuss the fertility crisis, artificial wombs and genetic selection, his early days as a founding team member of OpenAI and Director of Y Combinator Research, the lessons he learned from Sam Altman, and how the rapid advancements in AI are affecting biotech.
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Roon is the Twitter pseudonym we all love. You've likely come across @Tszzl on Twitter, where he has grown over 56k followers under his pseudonymous name "roon" for his smart and edgy takes. He's an AI expert, engineer, an SF stan, and overall techno-optimist. On this episode you'll hear about his thoughts on Elon Musk, Twitter, generative AI, which new AI companies will find success, China's AI progress, his prankster friends (Rahul Ligma & Daniel Johnson), the common personality traits he's noticed amongst his most successful and impactful friends like Vitalik, and basically everything else that's on our mind these days. You'll also learn that he doesn't take anything too seriously.
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