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Carrying Wayward: A Supernatural Podcast

Author: Marie & Drew

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Friends and co-hosts Drew Shulman and Marie Vigouroux explore TV show Supernatural. With a focus on character narrative, growth and relationships, they offer a critique of the show’s lore, production and writing decisions. Whether you are a long-time fan or a newcomer, join Drew and Marie weekly as they parse through 15 seasons of Sam, Dean, and, of course, pie.
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❄️We’re jingling into your feed with a tiny lil episode stuffed FULL of holiday chaos: our live event holiday schedule is here! We’ve got A Very SPN Christmas, we’ve got baking, we’ve got cartoons, and absolutely zero chill. All the festive details are in the minisode! So listen and mark your calendars!
First Born - 9x11

First Born - 9x11

2025-11-2101:03:07

🥜This week’s theme is destiny, or as we call it, “Dean Winchester’s Roman Empire.” Crowley’s flirting, Cain’s biblical trauma dumping, Cas misses PB&J, and Dean’s out here saying yes to cursed marks like it’s self-care 🙃---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Road Trip - 9x10

Road Trip - 9x10

2025-11-1449:22

🔥Dean’s got guilt, Cas’s got empathy kink, and Sam’s got trauma that’s not even his fault. The theme is CONSEQUENCES, the vibe is yearning in a trench coat, and every choice Dean’s ever made is staring him in the face (blue-eyed, wings singed, still choosing him).---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Holy Terror - 9x09

Holy Terror - 9x09

2025-11-0750:17

🕊️Drew and Marie discuss identity! Sam’s losing time, Dean’s losing track of his lies, Cas is losing his tolerance after ONE beer, and Metatron is just losing. Oh, and surprise! Zeke is actually Gadreel. Also, Kevin deserved better 💔---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
💍Let’s talk purity, aka patriarchy, white supremacy & heteronormativity wrapped in a “promise ring.” The brothers sign purity contracts, Dean immediately makes the whole purity group horny, and Sam gets called dead inside. Um RUDE???---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Bad Boys - 9x07

Bad Boys - 9x07

2025-10-2443:04

🎸This week’s theme is Hobson’s Choice, aka pick the horse or pick nothing, and Dean picked trauma 🙃 This king of messy breakups shows up at yet ANOTHER ex’s workplace smirking, John ruins everything again, and Sam’s… there. Moose vibes only 🫎---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
🥤THIS WEEK WE ARE SCREAMING ABOUT YEARNING!!!! Dean is looking through people’s windows, Cas never knew he could feel that much, and THEIR HANDS ARE SHAKING FROM HOLDING BACK FROM EACH OTHER ALL OF THIS SILENCE AND PATIENCE, PINING AND DESPERATELY WAITING---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
🐾 Drew and Marie are talking OUTLOOK. Sam’s a snack, Dean’s fetching balls & freeing dogs, and we’re thinking hard about whose outlook even matters when Zeke’s still in the passenger seat. ---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Slumber Party - 9x04

Slumber Party - 9x04

2025-10-0357:45

🌈Drew & Marie talk BELONGING in the Oz-is-real, witches-dropping-houses, Men of Letters lore-fest that is Slumber Party. Dean is nesting, Sam’s “meh”, Charlie is QUEER MAGIC, and Dorothy said DEI. Thank you Robbie Thompson!!!---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
I'm No Angel - 9x03

I'm No Angel - 9x03

2025-09-2655:29

🪥Drew and Marie talk about consent, because apparently NO ONE in this episode has heard of it 🙃 Sam’s got an angel joyriding his body, Dean’s lies are leveling up, Cas is learning how to human (badly), and Bart needs to get punched in the dick. It’s messy. It’s cursed. We have thoughts™. ---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Devil May Care - 9x02

Devil May Care - 9x02

2025-09-1949:24

🔒This week, Drew and Marie are talking CONTROL, or lack thereof. Dean’s got lies, Sam’s got an angel Airbnb situation, Kevin’s trapped, and Crowley’s… kinky?? 👀👑 The chaos is real.---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
🪦We have RISEN from the dead (much like SAM-one else)We’re BACK (baby) on the 20th ANNIVERSARY of Supernatural with our takes on 9x01. Drew & Marie are SCREAMING, CRYING, THROWING HOLY WATER 🧂👼Theme of the week? RETURN. Fitting, right? 😏 ---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
A little announcemnt!

A little announcemnt!

2025-07-0105:46

Well, it's been a while, Hello there!---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.com.Music by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.comAdditional Music by Eric Matyas - www.soundimage.org
Sacrifice - 08x23

Sacrifice - 08x23

2024-09-0649:18

In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 23 of Supernatural: Sacrifice. They talk about the confessions we hear in this gorgeous season finale. ---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Clip Show - 08x22

Clip Show - 08x22

2024-08-3044:34

In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 22 of Supernatural: Clip Show. They talk about the havoc brought upon Sam, Dean, and Cas in this penultimate episode!---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 21 of Supernatural: The Great Escapist. They talk about how Sam, Dean, Kevin, and Cas perform roles and tasks in this episode.---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Pac-Man Fever - 08x20

Pac-Man Fever - 08x20

2024-08-1649:02

In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 20 of Supernatural: Pac-Man Fever. They talk about how Charlie, Sam, and Dean experience escapism. ---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
Taxi Driver - 08x19

Taxi Driver - 08x19

2024-08-0938:30

In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 19 of Supernatural: Taxi Driver. They talk about the different passages represented in this episode.---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.com.Music by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 18 of Supernatural: Freaks and Geeks. They talk Sam and Dean's reactions to the child exploitation they witness in this episode.---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 8, Episode 17 of Supernatural: Goodbye Stranger. They talk about the various pieces of information that come out during this episode.---Support us on Ko-fi or Patreon: carryingwayward.comMusic by Jake LionheartAdditional sound editing by Jacqueline TucciAudio provided by zapsplat.com
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