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Talk Is Sheep
Author: Kyle Stelter and Greg Rensmaag
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Welcome to Talk is Sheep — the official podcast of the Wild Sheep Society of British Columbia.
Join host Kyle Stelter and the Directors of WSSBC as they sit down with passionate guests from the mountain hunting and conservation community. From unforgettable backcountry adventures to in-depth conversations about wild sheep and the future of habitat conservation, this is where storytelling meets stewardship.
Contact: kstelter@wildsheepsociety.com
The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Wild Sheep Society of BC. Listener discretion is advised.
Join host Kyle Stelter and the Directors of WSSBC as they sit down with passionate guests from the mountain hunting and conservation community. From unforgettable backcountry adventures to in-depth conversations about wild sheep and the future of habitat conservation, this is where storytelling meets stewardship.
Contact: kstelter@wildsheepsociety.com
The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Wild Sheep Society of BC. Listener discretion is advised.
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Steve and Kyle welcome Tammy Leonard, the spouse of missing hunter Tom Leonard and Joey Prevost from Terrace Search and Rescue to the show. 16 years ago, in 2005, Tom Leonard failed to return home from a solo sheep hunt in Spatsizi Plateau Wilderness Provincial Park. An initial 4 day search was conducted but was not successful and was called off due to bad weather.The following year in 2006 family members, friends and complete strangers (first responders, guide outfitters, conservation officers) conducted a week long search for Tom unfortunately, nothing was found.Not giving up in 2007 and again in 2008 family members went to Spatsizi and searched specific areas of the park which again failed to produce any answers.In 2013 a hunter discovered a camp that met the description of Tom's tent however the hunter did not connect this camp to being Tom's until 2019 when he saw Tom' story on social media. RCMP were contacted about this camp unfortunately, due to being late in the season they had to wait until the following year to investigate.In 2020 the RCMP was not able to conduct the search due to the road being washed out to the trail head as well as due to COVID the helicopter was unavailable.In 2021 the RCMP had asked BC Parks to investigate this camp however due to staffing shortage they were not able to go. Terrace Search and Rescue championed the effort. Joey Prevost from Terrace SAR talks us through the search in 2021 and what they discovered.This is a heart wrenching story that will leave you in tears.To support the search for Tom Leonard visit: www.gofundme.com/f/Help-Search-Rescue-end-16-year-search-for-Tom
We welcome British Columbia's new Provincial Wildlife Veterinarian Dr. Caeley Thacker to the show. Dr. Thacker is no stranger to the wild sheep community having been involved in numerous projects on the landscape. She has worked closely with Grace Enns on the Cassiar Region Stone's Sheep Health and Habitat Study and gives us an update on year three of that project.We talk to Caeley about her fondness for wildlife medicine and how she got involved with it. She talks about the current state of wildlife health in British Columbia and shares some personal stories of her journey to where she is today. This visit with Caeley is fun and energetic and if you are interested in BC's wildlife health this one is worth a listen.
*****Explicit Language – Not Suitable for Children*****Anybody who’s picked up the phone in the last couple of years to call the WSSBC number has talked to this episodes guest, Sabrina Larsen. Sabrina was until recently, the Executive Assistant of the WSSBC. We chat a bit about the behind the scenes daily life of the WSSBC, her how and why she became involved, her incredible stone sheep, and a special appearance or two by her son!
Connection. Memories. Camaraderie. What is a campfire to you? An interesting twist with this episode, as Steve goes from co-host to guest. 1Campfire is a campaign created by the Wild Sheep Society to bridge the gap between hunters and non-hunters. Steve is the Social Media Manager for 1Campfire- joined alongside with Jonathan Proctor, chair of 1Campfire. This discussion talks about the origins of 1Campfire, the how and why it was formed, and why it is critically important to show common bonds across the landscape.
Steve and Kyle have a sobering discussion with Kevin Hurley Vice-President of Conservation & Operations, Wild Sheep Foundation and Chris Barker - Projects Chair for WSSBC . The topic of M. Ovi on the landscape is one that hits home for sheep nuts, especially those that are affected by the epidemic ravaging sheep herds. We discuss the discovery of M.Ovi, how it affects wild and domestic sheep, the ability to test, and the outcome if we do not take action soon.
We sit down with the leadership team behind the newly launched Canadian Wildlife Conservation Partners (CWCP) for an in-depth conversation on Talk is Sheep. Fresh off their September debut, we welcome CWCP Chair Chris Everett, Vice-Chair Brian McRae, and founding partner representatives Doug Chiasson and Kyle Stelter (host) to unpack the vision behind this new national collaborative.The group shares the why, the how, and what Canadians can expect from the CWCP as it gains momentum. With fourteen partner and affiliate organizations already on board—representing nearly 200,000 members—the CWCP is off to a powerful start.Formed by the Canadian Fur Institute, Delta Waterfowl, SCI Canada, and the Wild Sheep Society of British Columbia, the founding partners discuss the challenges they see ahead, the need for a unified conservation voice, and the structure and pillars guiding the organization. They also explore how the CWCP plans to operate, advocate, and make an impact moving forward.Presented by: @sitkagearSupported by: @yeti @zeisshunting @frontiersmengear @onxhunt @stoneglacier @wild_tv @schnee_hunt @precision.optics @gunwerks
Talk Is Sheep Podcast – Episode: Maddie Richards | Kicked OutWe welcome Maddie Richards to the podcast to talk about conservation, hunting, family, and her new "Kicked Out" series on the Wild Sheep Foundation’s "Sheep Fever" podcast platform.Maddie is a dedicated, hardcore, and accomplished hunter, having taken several trophy-class animals. This fall, she arrowed a pronghorn antelope buck and continues to spend her weekends and time off chasing elk in Montana.As the Membership Manager for the Wild Sheep Foundation, Maddie grew up in a conservation-minded family and now channels that passion into her work and media projects. She’s recently stepped into the role of host for the "Kicked Out" series on "Sheep Fever". Check out Maddie’s first episode of Kicked Out here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/25ecaVkTO3wQweuJj1zuXo?si=4f6c0079081b4c53Presented by: @sitkagear Supported by: @yeti @zeisshunting @frontiersmengear @onxhunt @stoneglacier @wild_tv @schnee_hunt @precision.optics @gunwerks
We welcome two hardcore mountain hunters to the podcast — Anthony Klubi and Brandon Roth. These guys have been grinding it out in sheep country for the better part of a decade, yet the elusive ram has always slipped through their fingers.That changed this year.After an early-season hunt that came up short on harvest but full of lessons, Anthony and Brandon laced up their boots once again and pushed back into the mountains in pursuit of a mature Stone’s ram. 179 kilometres on foot and fifteen days in the field later — persistence finally paid off.But this story is more than just miles and mountains.Earlier in the year, Anthony lost his grandfather and chose to carry his ashes with him into the alpine. The emotional weight of that journey — combined with the unspoken question of who would take the shot if the opportunity presented itself (neither had ever harvested a ram) — could have made for a tense situation.Instead, it revealed the strength of true hunting brotherhood.Anthony and Brandon walk us through that pivotal moment — and how it unfolded with respect, humility, and friendship. The result? A heavy, dark-caped ram worthy of any sheep hunter’s dreams.This story will make you laugh, pause, and quite possibly wipe away a tear. It’s one for the books.Presented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
We welcome Pursue the Wild host Kristy Titus to Talk Is Sheep!Fresh off an incredible Fannin Sheep hunt with Blackstone Outfitters in the Yukon, Kristy shares the story of harvesting her second North American wild sheep.We retrace Kristy’s steps on this memorable adventure, discuss her journey toward completing the Grand Slam of North American wild sheep, and look ahead to what’s next on her list. Throughout the conversation, Kristy’s gratitude shines through—for the guides, outfitters, pilots, the wilderness, and of course, the sheep itself.Follow Kristy’s journey on Instagram: @kristytitus???? Check out some of Kristy’s mountain hunt episodes:NWT Caribou HuntDall Sheep HuntBC Mountain Goat HuntBC Moose HuntBC CaribouPresented by: SITKA Gear Supported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
The Wild Sheep Jurassic Classic is truly an experience like no other. This past August, 56 conservation-minded anglers joined us on the Fraser River to raise funds for wild sheep. Beyond the camaraderie, fresh air, and world-class sturgeon fishing, the event is about something bigger—coming together to celebrate and support our wild sheep resource.Over the years, the Jurassic Classic has generated more than half a million dollars for wild sheep conservation, with a major focus on the Fraser River California Bighorn project. These efforts have played a pivotal role in restoring Bighorns just a few hundred miles upstream.In this episode, we sit down with Colin Peters and James Mitton, both deeply involved in making this fundraiser a success. With three Wild Sheep Society Directors also on the cast, we share a behind-the-scenes look at what’s ahead for the Society over the coming months—offering listeners a sneak peek into the latest conservation initiatives underway.Presented by: SITKA Gear Supported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
We welcome Doug Chiasson, Executive Director of the Fur Institute of Canada, to the podcast. Doug shares the rich history of Canada’s trapping industry and the critical work being done to preserve trapping and promote sustainable use.Our conversation explores the growing threats to hunting, trapping, and conservation, with a deep dive into the seal industry. Doug highlights how current regulations and market pressures affect not only the seal resource but also the broader fishing resource.With extensive international experience, Doug emphasizes the importance of having a strong presence on the world stage. His decades of work in the non-profit sector have left a lasting impact, earning him wide respect among his peers.For more information, visit fur.caInstagram: @furinstituteofcanadaPresented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
We welcome Chuck Peeling to the podcast to share his recent journey into BC’s rugged North in pursuit of a mature Stone’s Sheep. A dyed-in-the-wool hunter, Chuck had long dreamed of notching his first wild sheep tag — and this year, that dream became reality.We dig into his approach, why he held out for the one, and what it meant when he finally anchored a tremendous Stone’s ram. Together, we relive the moments of challenge, perseverance, and the unforgettable rush of success.Beyond the hunt, Chuck — founder and partner of the Spike Camp platform — speaks to the passion and drive within our conservation community. He shares exciting updates on Spike Camp’s latest developments and the benefits of getting involved.Presented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss.
Back from the Wild: Sixteen Days in Pursuit of Stone’s SheepWe sit down with Hana and Rebecca as they return to everyday life after sixteen days in the deep wild chasing Stone’s Sheep.These two adventurers kicked off sheep season with a fly-in hunt, spending two weeks in pursuit of Rebecca’s very first ram. Hana, an experienced sheep hunter, took on the role of mentor, guiding Rebecca through her first true off-the-grid mountain hunt. From the highs of breathtaking moments to the lows that test grit and resolve, both women share raw stories and reflections from the mountains.Rebecca, fresh off this life-changing experience, is determined to leave the “Less Than One” club behind, while Hana provides the seasoned perspective of someone who’s been there before. Together, they offer a unique lens on the hunt—one from the excitement of a first-timer, and one from the steady knowledge of experience.We also dive into the incredible momentum of Women Shaping Conservation. Rebecca, as Chair, and Hana, as a volunteer, update us on their successful initiatives like Elevate and Aim for Impact, while offering a glimpse into exciting plans for 2026.Presented by: SITKA Gear Supported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss.
In this special episode, we welcome a true legend in wildlife conservation and hunting — Mr. Whitetail himself, Larry Weishuhn. With over six decades of experience as a wildlife biologist, outdoor writer, television personality, and advocate, Larry shares his inspiring journey, the passion that drives him, and his unwavering commitment to conservation. We explore the evolving perception of hunters in society, discussing ways to improve public understanding and bridge the growing urban-rural divide. Larry also highlights his work with the Dallas Safari Club and Texas Wildlife Association, emphasizing how hunters continue to be pivotal stewards of wildlife.Tune in for a heartfelt conversation filled with insights, stories, and a reminder of the vital role hunters play in conserving our natural heritage. Be sure to visit Larry’s website at www.larryweishuhn.net, subscribe to his podcasts, including "DSC's Campfires with Larry Weishuhn," "A Sportsman's Life," and "Catfish Radio with Luke Clayton and Friends," and catch his weekly TV show on Carbontv.com.Presented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss.
We sit down with WSSBC Vice President Chris Barker to discuss what is happening in the wild sheep world. We receive updates on our three legacy projects. Specifically:Fraser River Test and RemoveOkanagan Bighorn Disease - Psoroptes Trial Northern Prescribed BurnChris also dives into a story as he has been accused of never talking about his hunting experiences. This is a great update on the work the Society, our members and partners are doing.Presented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
In this episode of Talk is Sheep, we welcome Sam Cunningham to the podcast for a deep dive into one of the Lone Star State’s most pressing wild sheep issues, Aoudad.Often overlooked and sometimes glamorized, aoudad (Barbary sheep) have become a major concern for native wildlife managers. Sam breaks down the challenges these non-native invaders pose to desert bighorn populations, the ecological ripple effects across West Texas, and what’s being done to mitigate the damage.If you're a sheep hunter, conservationist, or just passionate about wild places, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.Presented by: SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee’s, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
Greg and Kyle sit down with Omer Hrbinic for a conversation that started out focused on gear and upcoming fall hunts but quickly transformed into something much deeper.Omer—the gear guru, but also a deep thinker and self-described spiritual individual —opens up about the wild sheep community and what it truly means to be part of it. While the Wild Sheep Society’s mission is to protect wild sheep and their habitat, this discussion reveals that it’s about much more than conservation—it’s about connection, shared values, and a community of like-minded people bound together by a passion for wild places and wildlife.Of course, we couldn’t have Omer on without talking gear. He breaks down his 2025 gear list, sharing what will be on his back and in his pack this fall as he heads into the mountains.This heartfelt and insightful conversation reminds us why we do what we do—and why this community is so special.Presented by SITKA GearSupported by: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee's, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
New Episode: Safeguarding Bighorns – A Health Initiative in the KootenaysIn this episode, we’re joined by the Provincial Wildlife Veterinarian Caeley Thacker and WSSBC representative, Josh Hamilton to discuss an exciting new initiative aimed at protecting one of British Columbia’s most iconic species — the Rocky Mountain bighorn sheep.We’re proud to announce the launch of a comprehensive wild sheep health project in the Kootenay region. This collaborative effort will focus on gathering critical data on disease presence, environmental contaminants, and overall herd health. The information collected will play a key role in identifying emerging threats and informing habitat restoration and conservation strategies across the region.A call to action is going out to Region 4 guide outfitters and Limited Entry Hunt (LEH) permit holders: you can make a significant impact by collecting biological samples from any bighorn sheep you harvest this year. Sampling kits and detailed instructions will be available throughout the summer.Order your free sampling kit here: https://forms.gle/bTWBqCuKee23Depd7This project is a collaboration between the BC Wildlife Health Program, the Wild Sheep Society of British Columbia, and Wildkin Veterinary Services. Your support and participation are vital in our shared mission to protect wild sheep for generations to come.Tune in now to learn how hunters, outfitters, and conservationists are working together to ensure a healthy future for BC’s bighorns.Proudly presented by SITKA Gear.Supported by our Conservation Partners:Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee's, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
Mountain Ready Ep. 5 — Grit, Growth, and Getting It Done with Kaden RomainWe’re back with the fifth installment of our Mountain Ready series — built for sheep hunters preparing for the rigours of fall in the high country. This time, we welcome seasoned mountain hunter Kaden Romain to the show.Kaden shares insights into the mindset of a veteran sheep hunter, recounting the highs and lows of a memorable trip marked by a brutal 48-hour snowstorm. Where many would have packed it in, Kaden and his partner stayed the course — and were rewarded with encounters on multiple bands of rams once the storm passed. It’s a powerful reminder that resilience often separates success from failure in the mountains.We also dive into Kaden’s evolution as a sheep hunter — from his early days cutting his teeth in the backcountry to the refined techniques and strategies that now guide his approach. Whether you're new to sheep hunting or a seasoned vet, there's plenty of insight to take into your own mountain pursuits.Proudly presented by SITKA Gear.Supported by our Conservation Partners: Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee's, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss
Podcast Episode: Healing in the Wild with Todd Hisey, Founder of The Veteran HuntersIn this episode, we sit down with Todd Hisey, Founder and CEO of The Veteran Hunters Canada — a non-profit organization run by retired Canadian Armed Forces Veterans and First Responders who have experienced their own mental health journeys.The Veteran Hunters exists to serve fellow Veterans, Military Members, and First Responders by offering peer support and outdoor therapy through guided hunting and wilderness experiences. Their mission is simple: provide healing in the wild through connection, camaraderie, and purpose.They believe that being in the outdoors is extremely therapeutic — especially when surrounded by fellow Soldiers, Law Enforcement Officers, Paramedics, Firefighters, and Corrections Officers.Todd shares the organization’s origin story, how nature helped him personally heal, and the powerful impact this initiative is having on lives across the country. This is more than a hunting program — it’s a lifeline for those who’ve served.Learn more at: www.theveteranhunters.comProudly Sponsored By: SITKA GearWith Support From Our Conservation Partners:Frontiersmen Gear, Gunwerks, OnX Maps, Precision Optics, Schnee's, Stone Glacier, Wild TV, YETI, and Zeiss