HR Leader Podcast Network

The passage of legislation allowing for a right to disconnect for Australian workers provides business owners across the country an opportunity to challenge the paradigms they hold around flexible working and design a workplace that works for their employees and fosters productivity, argues one director. In this episode of The Boutique Lawyer Show, from HR Leader’s sister brand, Lawyers Weekly, host Jerome Doraisamy welcomes in house nous director Natasha Hannah to discuss what is meant by the term “right to disconnect”, whether and how organisations are responding to the passage of its legislation, the concerns that employers have, and hurdles to be overcome in the new environment. Hannah also details the contractual and policy changes that small-business owners will have to undertake, the various conversations that should be had both with one’s staff members and a company’s clients, how to navigate those conversations and textual changes, designing a workplace accordingly, striking the right balance with generational attitudes and business needs, undertaking such changes against the backdrop of other firm concerns, and seeing the new legislation as a business opportunity.

The vital yet often under-discussed realm of work health and safety is a must-know for employers and employees. Education and clarity in this area help protect people in the workplace and avoid legal issues. In this episode of The HR Leader, Kerry Kingham, chief executive of the Chooze Shop, sheds light on the multifaceted nature of workplace safety, its integration into organisational culture, and the evolving challenges in the era of remote and hybrid work. Kingham emphasises the foundational role of work health and safety (WHS) in establishing a company’s culture and standards. Unfortunately, WHS often goes unnoticed until a crisis unfolds. The alignment of WHS policies with an organisation’s vision, mission, and values not only reinforces safety standards but also fosters a culture of care and responsibility. She also points out the necessity of regular reskilling and upskilling to keep pace with evolving safety standards and risks. Moreover, the legal and compliance landscapes have become increasingly stringent, with negligence in WHS potentially leading to severe consequences. The remote and hybrid work models can sow confusion with WHS, as it’s unclear where responsibility lies. Kingham stresses the extension of WHS responsibilities into the home office, challenging traditional boundaries of workplace safety.

Emotional fitness is the key to navigating tricky situations at work. With the landscape of work constantly evolving, understanding and adapting to change has never been more crucial. Emotional fitness expert Joe Pane delves into these themes in this episode of The HR Leader. Emotional fitness, as Pane describes, is fundamentally about our relationship with uncertainty. It’s this relationship that dictates not only our personal growth but also our professional development. The workplace, a hub of constant change, serves as a prime arena for exercising emotional fitness. From promotions and team changes to new leadership dynamics, employees face uncertainty at every turn. Pane emphasises that growth, a perpetual need of the human condition, is inherently tied to our ability to navigate these uncertainties effectively. Uncertainty, according to Pane, is a fabric of life and a precursor to growth. This concept challenges the traditional view of uncertainty as an obstacle. Instead, Pane suggests that embracing uncertainty is essential for development, both personally and professionally. The idea that uncertainty never truly goes away but can be managed more effectively through emotional fitness offers a fresh perspective on career progression and personal development.

The recruitment market has seen a chaotic and tense couple of years. Various factors have caused a skills shortage and trends like quiet quitting and the Great Resignation, to name a few. To discuss the future of the recruitment market, Jesse Shah, nrol’s director, joins The HR Leader. The conversation touches on the current state of recruitment and what can be expected in the coming years. As we conclude the first quarter of 2024, Shah reflects on the noticeable uptick in recruitment activities compared to the previous year. This surge in hiring activities is good news for candidates; however, it creates harsh competition for employers. Salaries, undoubtedly, remain a significant factor influencing job changes. However, Shah underscores the growing importance of workplace culture and mental health considerations. The stress of being under-resourced and overworked has led candidates to value organisations that offer a better work/life balance alongside competitive pay. Addressing the gender disparity in the workplace, Shah acknowledges the impact of recent reporting by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency. While the full effects of these reports are yet to be seen in recruitment practices, there’s an awareness and questioning of pay disparities among candidates. This awareness could potentially drive businesses to reassess their compensation structures to retain and attract top female talent.

Businesses have the sway to enact real change. More and more organisations are leveraging this and entering the activism space. Lucy Piper, director at Work for Climate, joined The HR Leader to delve into the increasingly pertinent topic of business activism and why it’s crucial in the modern workforce. The episode discusses the evolving role of companies in fostering a culture where employee activism, particularly around climate issues, is not just welcomed but encouraged. Creating a space for employee-led initiatives and discussions on shared values is crucial. This approach not only nurtures a culture of engagement and ownership among employees but also aligns with the broader expectation for businesses to play a proactive role in societal issues. Gone are the days when employees were expected to leave their personal values and concerns at the door. This change has led to a more values-driven workforce. Piper points out that this shift is about more than just individual or collective activism within the workforce. It’s about companies re-evaluating their core values and the legacy they wish to leave. It’s a call to action for businesses to align their operations and strategies with a more sustainable, equitable, and resilient vision of the future.  

Building a thriving workplace takes time and effort. Data analytics and psychometric testing can make this process easier, particularly at scale. Integrating these processes into everyday practices can foster and propel healthy workforce development and productivity. In this episode of The HR Leader, Alex Bond, Director at PBC Hogan, delves into the multifaceted world of building effective workplaces through building effective leaders. The conversation sheds light on the ever-evolving landscape of workplace dynamics, emphasising the pivotal role of trust, leadership, and data analytics. At the heart of the discussion is the transformative potential of objective behavioural insights and data analytics in leadership development and organisational performance. We discuss in detail how PBC Hogan leverages psychometric testing and data analytics to create a holistic understanding of leadership capabilities and aligning development interventions with organisational strategy. By establishing baselines and measuring progress, organisations can make informed decisions and foster leadership that propels the organisation forward. Finally, we consider the concept of trust, deemed a cornerstone in successful workplace relationships and highlight how trust underpins team performance, and fosters an environment conducive to vulnerability, learning, and positive behaviours, ultimately supporting performance.

Nurturing the next generation of leaders is critical if businesses want to remain competitive in the future of work. In this episode of The HR Leader, Sonia McDonald, chief executive and founder of Leadership HQ, shares her invaluable insights on the importance of promoting future leaders and how current leaders play a role in preparing for a sustainable future through developing the leadership skills of younger employees. According to McDonald, the emerging generations are showing an unprecedented eagerness to learn and grow, making it a good time for organisations to focus on developing their leadership potential. This generation is not just looking to climb the corporate ladder – they are driven by a desire to make meaningful changes in the world. McDonald believes that by equipping them with essential human and leadership skills today, we are paving the way for a brighter future for our communities, organisations, and the planet. However, McDonald points out a significant challenge: the pressure of leadership. She argues that while this pressure is substantial, it is both an honour and a responsibility, and she is confident that the younger generations are more than capable of rising to the occasion.

There are so many amazingly successful women in the finance industry, but only a small number have a strong brand and online presence in this traditionally male-dominated industry.    As we celebrate International Women’s Day, we want to help more women raise their profile and showcase the incredible professionals in this space.   In this episode, partnered by Mortgage Choice (part of the REA Group), we’re picking the brain of its executive manager, corporate communications, events & franchise marketing, Sally Chadwick, to find out: How to build a brand presence.  The benefits of having a strong brand presence. Top tips to help you get started today. And much more!

International Women’s Day is here (8 March), and employers should use the opportunity to recognise the power they have to incite change. In this episode, Angela Coble, the client group technology officer and gender ERG executive sponsor at Accenture Australia, joins The HR Leader. The dialogue is timely, as it aligns with the approach of International Women’s Day. Coble delves into the crucial themes of the year, focusing on investing in women to accelerate progress and inspire inclusion. Her insights shed light on the necessity of a holistic approach to creating an inclusive environment for women across the workplace and society. The discussion underscores the importance of economic empowerment for women, a topic Coble is passionate about. The conversation also touches upon the recent gender pay gap reporting launch, a move Coble views as a positive step towards transparency and equality in the workplace.  As the discussion continues, Coble highlights how employers have the power to enact real change in regard to gender equality. Society is often a mirror of the workplace, and vice versa, driving home just how important empowerment in the workplace is.

Psychosocial risks have been circulating in workplace discussions over the past year quite heavily, and for good reason. They refer to hazards that can harm mental wellbeing, so clearly, it is a critical area that requires attention. In this episode of The HR Leader, Vanessa Fudge, founder and chief executive of Leading Well, sheds light on psychosocial risks. The conversation not only unpacks the essence and implications of these risks but also ventures into the evolving responsibilities of leaders in creating healthier work environments. These hazards, while sometimes physical, predominantly affect the mental wellbeing and overall health of employees. The discussion underscores the legal and moral duty of care leaders have towards mitigating these risks, highlighting the necessity of fostering a conducive and healthy workplace. Vanessa points out that while training and awareness are crucial, they alone are insufficient to address the complexities of psychosocial risks. The real challenge lies in integrating these learnings into the structural and strategic fabric of organisations. The conversation also touches upon the new legislation being rolled out across Australia, emphasising the urgent need for leaders to familiarise themselves with these guidelines.

Using humour at work isn’t about showing off your “tight five”; it’s about making the effort. David Crisante, founder of Sydney Comedy School, sits down on the latest episode of The HR Leader to share what he has learnt about workplace communication from a career spanning diplomacy, journalism, and, of course, comedy. David stresses the importance of so-called “water cooler talk”. He explains what an employer is really saying when they engage in small talk, why it matters, and how it can contribute to a happier, more productive workplace. The topics might be “small”, but their ramifications are anything but. The podcast also covers the “vital” importance of public speaking as a boss. Often, it is the things we overlook that really make a great speech. “When we’re good at public speaking … what we’re saying verbally and what we’re saying physically is in alignment,” David said. Throughout, the case was made for humour in workplace communication. Increasingly, it is seen as a risk to be avoided, but this kind of thinking overlooks the fact workplace relationships are relationships nonetheless. “You can’t make somebody laugh if you’re not a clear communicator,” he said.

There are a variety of trends shaping the business landscape in 2024. Not all of them are positive, however, and keeping your ear to the ground can help in avoiding unfair situations. Sue Parker, a career strategist, communication expert, and the owner of DARE Group Australia, discusses some of these themes in this episode of The HR Leader. Sue uncovers the often-murky waters of salaries, the phenomenon of ghosting, and the contentious issue of being “overqualified”. She challenges the longstanding practice of salary determination based on experience and criticises the lack of clarity and integrity in such an approach. Sue’s stance is clear: a role should have a fair salary band that aligns with its purpose and the problems it aims to solve, irrespective of the candidate’s experience. The discussion also touches upon ghosting, a term that refers to the lack of communication between recruiters and candidates during the hiring process. Sue describes it as putting your head in a bucket and refusing to communicate, highlighting the frustration it causes. Sue takes issue with the term overqualified, which she sees as a smokescreen for ageism, fear, and insecurity. It is often used as an excuse to dismiss candidates, particularly older ones, without addressing the real reasons for their non-selection. According to Sue, this term masks a deeper issue of emotional intelligence and the ability to engage in honest, quality-driven communication.

As businesses resume travel activities in the post-pandemic world, the landscape of corporate travel has significantly evolved. In this episode of The HR Leader, Rodger Cook, general manager of global security services at World Travel Protection, delves into the intricacies of business travel. With costs soaring and risks constantly evolving, leaders must put their best foot forward to ensure their workforce remains safe and secure in business travel. Rodger’s extensive travel experience has been pivotal in understanding the needs of businesses when they send employees abroad. He emphasises the importance of duty of care, ensuring companies are well informed about the risks associated with travel and how to mitigate them effectively. He also discusses the benefit of transferable skills, as his experience boasts diversity in professions. Such transferable skills are becoming increasingly crucial as companies face talent shortages.

Communication is a vital aspect of effective leadership and must be maintained if productivity is to prosper. This was the topic of this episode of The HR Leader, joined by Larry Robertson, adviser, speaker, and author of WHY listen to, work with and follow YOU? Larry specialises in leadership communication and suggests that a staggering 80 per cent of a leader’s role revolves around effective communication. Larry argues that if no one is listening, then no one is following, and consequently, no leadership is taking place. This observation underscores the critical need for leaders to not only manage processes and content but also deeply engage with and motivate their teams. Meanwhile, Larry discusses the benefits of diversity and transferable skills. He recalls his transition from a structured military career to the dynamic and diverse world of advertising, where he was exposed to a melting pot of ideas, cultures, and perspectives. He vividly describes the creative energy that diversity can unleash within an organisation, leading to innovation and success.

Strong IT infrastructure and cyber security systems are crucial in the current workforce, where risks are constant. In a recent discussion of The HR Leader, Simon Cohen, founder and managing director at Cohesis, highlights the pressing need for organisations to properly maintain IT and cyber security measures. Being proactive about potential threats is key, as issues can arise unexpectedly. Simon underscores the importance of technology as a fundamental driver for organisational success. He points out that effective IT systems are not merely a cost but an enabler that can drive efficiency and integration across all operational processes. One of the key points of discussion was the misconception among smaller businesses that cyber threats primarily concern larger corporations. Simon clarifies that this line of thinking often leads to inadequate cyber security measures, leaving smaller enterprises particularly vulnerable to cyber attacks. He emphasises the necessity of data protection and the implementation of robust cyber security measures to safeguard sensitive information and intellectual property.

The recruitment industry has seen its fair share of volatility in recent years, with the pandemic serving as a catalyst for a significant shift in candidate priorities and employer strategies. Greg Powell, a national sales manager with considerable expertise in recruitment, shares valuable insights on the industry’s transformation, particularly in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic. Greg highlights that the market has cooled in the last six to eight months, leading to candidates becoming more cautious about job changes. There has been a noticeable shift in what motivates candidates, with work/life balance and hybrid working models now taking precedence over traditional drivers like career progression and salary increases. The discussion underscores that the pandemic introduced a new set of criteria for jobseekers, with many growing accustomed to the flexibility of working from home. As companies are increasingly looking to bring employees back to the office, albeit not necessarily five days a week, there is resistance from the candidate pool to relinquish the benefits of full flexibility.

In the competitive landscape of talent acquisition and retention, Australian businesses are increasingly recognising the importance of an effective onboarding process. HR Leader’s Jack Campbell sits down with Lauren Karan, director at Karan and Co, to discuss just how crucial it is to get this step right. Lauren emphasises that onboarding should commence the moment a candidate signs their contract. This period is delicate, as new hires are often counter-offered by their current employers and have yet to establish a relationship with their new manager. With the rise of remote and hybrid work models due to the pandemic, onboarding has faced new challenges. Maintaining communication is key. Whether through team chats or scheduled video calls, it’s vital to ensure new hires feel integrated and supported, even when working from a distance. However, the responsibility of onboarding should not be shouldered by HR alone. Managers play a pivotal role in the process. Lauren argues that managers should take the initiative to connect with new hires, scheduling regular check-ins and being readily available to answer questions. This not only helps the new employee settle in but also demonstrates the manager’s commitment to their success.

Christmas is an expensive and time-consuming part of the year as people juggle a variety of responsibilities. Some would argue that this is the most important time of year for employee benefits. Matt Holme, founder and chief executive of YouPay, discusses the exciting and stressful end-of-year rush with The HR Leader and how effective benefits policy can go a long way for employees. The discussion also touches on the types of benefits employees are seeking. Matt emphasises that beyond festive events, there’s a growing expectation for benefits that support work/life balance and personal growth. He shares the importance of offering flexible work arrangements and opportunities for professional development. A personalised approach is crucial, as a one-size-fits-all strategy is becoming increasingly outdated. Matt encourages leaders to engage in direct conversations with their teams to understand individual priorities and aspirations. This approach is particularly effective in smaller businesses, where leaders can more easily tailor benefits to each employee’s unique circumstances.

Payroll is essential for any business. As explained by the Australian Payroll Association’s chief executive, Tracy Angwin: “No one thanks you for getting payroll right. But crikey, do you know when it’s wrong.” This episode of The HR Leader unpacks the potential issues and the need to get payroll right. Here, Tracy shines a light on the complexities and critical nature of payroll management within organisations. The conversation delves into the risks associated with payroll, compliance issues, and the impact these have on company culture and employee morale. Payroll is often perceived as a thankless task within the HR portfolio, where errors can lead to significant financial, regulatory, and cultural risks.  To manage payroll effectively, Tracy highlights three key areas: people, processes, and platforms. Ensuring a competent, well-trained payroll team with appropriate governance structures is vital. The technology platform used for payroll must be fit for purpose, with proper integrations and functionality to meet the business’s needs. Those who do not realise this run the risk of falling behind in the modern workforce.

In the ever-evolving landscape of business, the alignment of people, skills, and strategy emerges as a pivotal factor for organisational growth. This was the focal point of a recent episode of The HR Leader, joined by Mercer’s leadership talent succession practice leader, Gareth Jones. The intricate connection between the workforce, the skills necessary for effective operation, and the strategic path of an organisation was discussed in depth. The importance of this alignment cannot be overstated, as disconnection in these areas can significantly stifle business efficiency. The conversation was timely, as Mercer’s Global Talent Trends Report highlighted that more than a third of HR leaders are concerned about the lack of workforce capability and future skills within their organisations. Another study by Mercer revealed that 50 per cent of executives fear their current talent models may not meet future demands. According to Gareth, technology, artificial intelligence, and environment, social and governance (ESG) are at the forefront of corporate skill requirements. These emerging needs are creating new roles and demanding a fresh set of skills.