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Jokermen Podcast is your spirit guide to the wonderful world of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys. Every song, every record: It’s All Good Music :: Subscribe on Patreon for access to all episodes ad-free, plus the full back catalog of Bob Dylan, Velvet Underground, Steely Dan, Lou Reed, John Cale, Randy Newman, and Billy Joel goods at patreon.com/jokermen :: @jokermenpodcast on Instagram and Twitter
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The Jokermen chat with Ryley Walker about becoming a laptop guy, David Sylvian, Bob Dylan, XTC, compact discs, Van Morrison, Van Morrison's dick and balls, Westerman, Cameron Winter and Geese, the new wave of weird, fun, fresh indie rock, expanding his audience beyond record collectors, and more.
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In honor of Bob Weir, who passed away today at the age of 78, we're unlocking Ian & Evan's positively fried post-show conversation following Dead & Co's penultimate performance in San Francisco on 8/2/25, which previously ran on Never Ending Stories.
Fare thee well Bobby 🌹
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The Jokermen are joined by Daniel Lopatin (Oneohtrix Point Never) to discuss his superb score for the instant classic MARTY SUPREME, American Hauntology, Donald Fagen, Stanley Kubrick, the blimp and much more.
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"MARTY SUPREME" SOUNDTRACK AVAILABLE NOW
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The Jokermen embrace the "Do It Again" ethos of the holidays with two late-era Christmas records: Brian Wilson's warm-hearted What I Really Want For Christmas, and Mike Love's aesthetically abrasive Reason For The Season. Plus: a Root Beer Report unlike any other.
Ian catches up with Daniel Rossen of Grizzly Bear about their just-concluded 2025 tour, revisiting Yellow House, Veckatimest, and Shields, returning to the past with no sense of pressure, community vs. quality of life, solo artists vs. rock bands, the lasting reputation of Grizzly Bear, the GOAT Michael McDonald, and much more.
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Ian speaks with author W. David Marx about cultural atrophy, poptimism, Taylor Swift, Charli XCX, Geese, the "Mike Love Century," The Beatles, the importance of serious criticism, Kanye, Kim, Paris Hilton, new musical genres (or lack thereof), fashion and food scenes vs. music and arts scenes, and Marx's superb new book, Blank Space: A Cultural History of the Twenty First Century.
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The Jokermen consider Carnie and Wendy Wilson's output from the 1990s: the self-titled Wilson Phillips debut, Shadows & Light, and their pseudo-collaboration with Brian, The Wilsons.
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The Jokermen discuss the laziest effort yet from the Beach Boys.
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The Jokermen celebrate Van Dyke Parks and Brian Wilson's collaborative release Orange Crate Art, as well as the California myth, the reclamation of the SMiLE project, the complicated relationship between art and commerce, and the medium of orange crate art itself.
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Ian raps with Julian Ehrlich and Max Kakacek of Whitney about living together as bandmates and working together as roommates, recording and producing themselves, dual breakups, The Band, "Acadian Driftwood," favorite Bob records, the Chicago scene, the depressing state of the Bears and the Bulls, basketball fandom in indie rock, "marinating" before tour, the ubiquity of pedal steel, and their lovely new record Small Talk.
"SMALL TALK" OUT NOW
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Ian chats with the great John Darnielle about the latest Mountain Goats record Through This Fire Across From Peter Balkan, cracking the concept behind the album, collaborating with members of both the Hamilton cast and The Replacements, his upcoming lyrics book, de-centering "John Darnielle" from his work, giving himself permission to look back, becoming an accidental TikTok phenomenon, writing bridges, underrated Bob Dylan records, and much more.
"THROUGH THIS FIRE ACROSS FROM PETER BALKAN" OUT THIS FRIDAY
"THIS YEAR" OUT DECEMBER 2nd
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1The Jokermen forge on into the 90s with Brian Wilson's never-released second solo record Sweet Insanity, the final document of the Eugene Landy era.
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