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This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features a conversation with Chris Higdon, the voice and creative force behind some of the most beloved bands to come out of Louisville, Kentucky, including Elliott, Falling Forward, and his latest project, Mirroless. Chris reflects on the early days of the hardcore and emo scene, tracing how Falling Forward laid the groundwork for Elliott’s expansive and emotionally charged sound that would go on to influence countless bands.The discussion digs into the stories behind the songs, the friendships and struggles that shaped the music, and what it was like to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground music history. Chris also opens up about his newest work with Mirroless, exploring the ways he continues to challenge himself musically and lyrically. Whether you’ve followed his journey since the ’90s or are just discovering his music, this episode offers an insightful look at the artistry, heart, and longevity of someone who has helped define a genre while always moving forward.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Kevin Campbell from the band Keepwarm joins the conversation for a deep dive into his musical journey. Kevin opens up about the origins of Keepwarm, what inspired their sound, and how the band found its place in a vibrant underground scene. He reflects on the highs and lows of making music during that time and what it was like to collaborate with the friends who helped bring the project to life.The discussion also touches on the broader context of the era—how bands like Keepwarm carved out their identity, navigated limited resources, and connected with fans in authentic ways. Kevin shares stories from the road, lessons learned in the DIY world, and how his experiences in Keepwarm continue to shape his outlook on creativity and music today.Whether you’re a longtime fan of Keepwarm or discovering them for the first time, this episode offers a meaningful look back at a unique chapter of independent music. Kevin’s perspective is equal parts nostalgic and inspiring, making it a conversation worth tuning into for anyone who appreciates the passion behind building music that matters.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Stephen Williams, known for his work with the band Jude Moses as well as playing alongside John Mark McMillan. Stephen shares stories from his journey in music, reflecting on his time creating with Jude Moses and how the band developed its unique sound, as well as his experiences touring and collaborating with McMillan. His perspective offers listeners a glimpse into both the creative process and the realities of being part of two different but deeply impactful musical worlds.In this conversation, Stephen dives into the themes of artistry, community, and the balance between personal expression and collaboration. Whether discussing songwriting, life on the road, or the moments that have shaped his path, his reflections highlight the ways music continues to inspire and connect people. Fans of Jude Moses, John Mark McMillan, or anyone who enjoys hearing the stories behind the music will find this episode full of insight and inspiration.Produce By Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Dan Koch, known for his work in Sherwood, Havana Swim Club, and as the host of multiple thoughtful podcasts including You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Dan shares stories from his journey in the music world, from his time as guitarist and songwriter in Sherwood to his newer creative explorations in electronic music and production with Havana Swim Club. Along the way, he reflects on how his experiences in the industry have shaped his perspective as both a musician and a creator of meaningful conversations.Beyond the music, the episode dives into Dan’s passion for podcasts and the unique space he’s built through shows like You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Listeners will get a deeper look at how he bridges creativity, curiosity, and connection across mediums—whether through a catchy melody, a textured beat, or an engaging discussion. It’s an inspiring conversation that highlights Dan’s versatility and his commitment to exploring both art and ideas.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we’re joined by Dave Swanson, best known for his work with Life In Your Way and The Frozen Ocean. Dave shares stories from his time in the Connecticut hardcore/metalcore scene and how Life In Your Way grew to become a band that blended heavy music with heartfelt and faith-driven lyrics. He reflects on the unique journey of the band, their impact within the scene, and what it was like to be part of a community that emphasized passion and authenticity as much as the music itself.The conversation also dives into his later project, The Frozen Ocean, where Dave explored a more atmospheric and expansive sound that showcased another side of his creativity. He opens up about the transition from the intensity of hardcore to more melodic and ambient songwriting, and how those experiences shaped him both musically and personally. Fans of his bands and those curious about the evolution of underground music will enjoy this deep dive into Dave’s story, his creative process, and the lasting connections that music has built along the way.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features an in-depth conversation with Ben Crist, the voice and songwriter of The Glorious Unseen. Known for crafting raw, atmospheric worship music that spoke to a generation hungry for honesty, Ben shares the story of how the band came together and the heart behind their deeply emotional songs. He talks about the unique balance of creating music that felt authentic both as worship and as art, as well as the challenges of navigating faith, creativity, and personal struggles along the way.The episode also highlights the impact of their standout releases, including Tonight the Stars Speak and The Hope That Lies in You, albums that gave us unforgettable songs like “Hear Our Prayers,” “Meet Me Where I’m At,” and “Burn in Me.” Ben reflects on what inspired much of this music, the ways it connected with listeners in raw and vulnerable moments, and the lasting influence The Glorious Unseen continues to carry today. Fans of heartfelt storytelling and those who found solace in the band’s music will enjoy hearing Ben’s reflections, behind-the-scenes insights, and thoughts on where life and music have taken him since.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast brings Milam Byers, Davy Baysinger, and Sam Barnhart from the influential rock band Bleach for a deep and heartfelt conversations. The guys open up about the band’s beginnings in Nashville, their creative process in the studio, and what it was like carving out their place in the late ‘90s/early 2000s alternative rock world. They share road stories, the ups and downs of touring, and the experiences that shaped them both as musicians and as friends.Listeners will also hear about the band’s connection to their fans, how their music continues to resonate years later, and what it meant to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground and faith-driven music. With plenty of laughter, nostalgia, and honest reflection, this episode paints a vivid picture of Bleach’s journey and why their songs still matter today.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this special three-part series of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Sam Barnhart, Davy Baysinger, and Milam Byers of the beloved alt-rock band Bleach for an unforgettable deep-dive into their story. Across these episodes, the band opens up about their early days cutting their teeth in the late ’90s scene, the friendships and creative spark that fueled their music, and the highs and lows of life on the road. They share honest reflections on personal loss, the challenges of sustaining a band, and the bittersweet decision to step away from the spotlight. With a mix of heartfelt storytelling, candid humor, and behind-the-scenes memories, the trio recounts how time apart led to growth—and what ultimately brought them back together for an emotional and inspiring reunion. Whether you’re a lifelong Bleach fan or discovering their music for the first time, these conversations capture the heart, soul, and enduring legacy of a band that left an indelible mark on their listeners and on the alternative rock landscape.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this special three-part series of The Rumors Are True, we’re honored to welcome Davy Baysinger, Sam Barnhart, and Milam Byers from the beloved alt-rock band Bleach to celebrate their long-anticipated reunion. As a cornerstone of the late ’90s and early 2000s alternative and Christian rock scenes, Bleach built a reputation for honest, emotional songwriting, anthemic guitar-driven sound, and high-energy live shows that left a lasting impression on fans around the world. In these episodes, the guys open up about the band’s origins, the unique chemistry that brought them together, and the journey through success, personal loss, creative shifts, and eventual disbandment. They reflect deeply on what the band meant to them then—and what it means now—as they revisit the passion and purpose that inspired them to make music in the first place. We also talk about the heart behind their reunion, the unexpected spark that brought them back to the stage, and the renewed connection they feel with each other and their fans. Whether you’ve been singing along since Static or Again, For the First Time, or you’re just now discovering Bleach, these episodes offer a raw, heartfelt, and often hilarious look at the life of a band that never really left our hearts.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we welcome Brandon Mullins, vocalist of the post-hardcore band Across Five Aprils and metalcore outfit Embraced. Brandon takes us back to the early 2000s underground scene, where both bands made their mark with emotionally intense lyrics, chaotic live shows, and a DIY spirit that resonated with fans across the country. He talks about joining Across Five Aprils, recording their breakthrough releases like A Tragedy in Progress, and the evolution of the band’s sound and lineup over the years.We also explore his earlier days with Embraced, a band known for blending melodic elements with brutal heaviness, and how that experience shaped his approach as a frontman. Brandon shares honest reflections on touring life, navigating the ups and downs of the music industry at a young age, and how it felt to step away from it all. He also opens up about his reconnection with music years later, the lasting friendships from those years, and the legacy of both bands in the scene.Whether you were stage-diving at a VFW hall back in the day or discovering these bands for the first time, this is a deep and personal conversation you won’t want to miss.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we welcome Dan Bonebrake, a key figure in the South Florida underground music scene and a seasoned musician known for his work with Dashboard Confessional, The Vacant Andys, Seville, War Generation, and more. Dan dives deep into his musical journey, tracing his roots in the 1990s alternative and emo scenes and offering a personal perspective on the cultural moment that helped launch Dashboard Confessional into the national spotlight.He shares stories from his time in The Vacant Andys—one of the foundational bands in the scene—and how that experience connected him with Chris Carrabba. Dan discusses the formation of Seville, a short-lived but beloved project, and how it became a key bridge between the early South Florida sound and the evolving emo genre. He also talks about his later work in War Generation and other creative pursuits over the years, giving listeners a glimpse into both the highs and challenges of life as a working musician.Whether you’re a longtime fan or just discovering this era of alternative music, Dan brings honesty, insight, and a wealth of behind-the-scenes stories to this can't-miss conversation.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork By Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we’re joined by two voices from the world of music podcasting: Dana Bollen from Two Week Notice and Andrew Mall from Live Free or DIY. Dana shares stories from his time as a tour manager for Piebald, as well as behind-the-scenes insights from his popular podcast, which has featured a wide range of artists from the alternative and punk scenes. Andrew, a scholar and author of God Rock, Inc., brings his unique perspective on faith, DIY culture, and underground music communities, as explored through his own podcast. Together, they talk about podcasting, their shared love for music, and the sometimes overlooked spaces where faith, fandom, and creativity intersect. A fun, thoughtful conversation you won’t want to miss.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, legendary frontman Les Carlsen of the pioneering Christian metal band Bloodgood joins the show for a powerful and heartfelt conversation. Les opens up about his musical journey—from his early days in theater and rock 'n' roll to fronting one of the most influential Christian metal bands of the 1980s and beyond.Listeners will hear Les share stories of the early Bloodgood days, including how the band formed, their mission to combine faith and heavy metal, and the impact they made on stages across the country. He speaks candidly about his personal faith, the role of prayer in their music, and the deep spiritual purpose behind their performances.The episode also explores Les’s recent solo work, including new music he’s releasing that continues to carry the same passion and message he's always been known for. He reflects on the legacy of Michael Bloodgood, his longtime bandmate and friend, and how his passing has shaped the future of the band and Les’s own creative vision moving forward.This is a meaningful and inspiring conversation that offers a glimpse into the heart and soul of one of Christian metal’s most respected voices. Fans of Bloodgood and anyone interested in faith-driven artistry will find a lot to connect with in this episode.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
The Rumors Are True Podcast features a powerful and heartfelt conversation with Joe Musten, the legendary drummer and vocalist known for his work with Beloved, Advent, The Almost, Torn, and more. In this episode, Joe dives deep into his musical and personal journey—from the emotional weight and passion that shaped Beloved’s melodic hardcore sound, to the aggressive, no-holds-barred intensity of Advent, and his time playing drums with Aaron Gillespie in The Almost.Joe talks about growing up in the North Carolina scene, the DIY roots of his early bands, and how faith, family, and personal struggle have shaped his approach to music and life. He shares stories of touring, breakups and reunions, mental health, and what drives him to keep creating honest, soul-stirring music even decades into his career.Listeners will get an inside look at what it takes to stay true to yourself in an ever-changing scene and how Joe continues to use his voice—both literally and figuratively—to speak truth with conviction. Whether you’ve moshed in a sweaty club to Advent or cried to a Beloved breakdown, this episode is a raw, real, and redemptive look at one of hardcore’s most respected and enduring artists.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
Special Episode: Moontraveling x Roster Music Club — A Crossover CelebrationThis episode is truly something special. I’m honored to host a crossover between two of my absolute favorite podcasts: Moontraveling and Roster Music Club — each with its own distinct heart, voice, and deep love for music.Moontraveling is hosted by Aaron Sprinkle (from legendary bands like Poor Old Lu, Fair, and Rose Blossom Punch) and Matthew Schwartz (of Pacifico and Pacifi Records). The show explores the emotional, spiritual, and often mysterious ways music shapes our lives. Their conversations are vulnerable, insightful, and always full of heart.Roster Music Club, hosted by Joey and Jared Svendsen (you may know them from Bad Christian), is a deep-dive love letter to overlooked or underappreciated albums. Every episode feels like hanging out with old friends who absolutely love talking music—and who have the knowledge and passion to back it up.As someone who’s been deeply impacted by both of these shows, this crossover means a lot to me personally. These are the kinds of podcasts that remind me why I fell in love with music in the first place—and why I keep falling for it again and again.This episode is more than a conversation—it’s a celebration of community, creativity, and connection. I’m thrilled to bring these voices together for something truly one-of-a-kind.Pls enjoy!
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Kevin Schlereth—musician, independent touring veteran, and key figure behind the Audiofeed Music Festival. Kevin shares the story of how Audiofeed rose from the ashes of Cornerstone Festival, the values that drive its unique community, and what it means to hold space for artists, fans, and seekers alike. From grassroots organization to faith-fueled creativity, this conversation digs deep into why Audiofeed isn’t just another summer festival—it’s a movement.Whether you’ve played the fest, attended as a fan, or never heard of it until now, this episode offers an honest look at how passion, purpose, and people collide in unforgettable ways.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Sunbears “Little Baby Pines”Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode, Jeremy sits down with musician, producer, and DIY lifer Tommy Rehbein to talk about his multi-decade journey through underground music—from the emotive soundscapes of Small Towns Burn a Little Slower, to the alternative grit of Farewell Continental, to his current synth-punk solo project Toilet Rats.Tommy shares how his passion for creating never stopped, even as projects came and went. He opens up about his love for physical media (especially CDs), his experience working with Steadfast Records, and what it’s like making records entirely on his own terms from his Minneapolis home studio.The conversation dives into topics like: • The evolution of Toilet Rats, and the story behind his newest release Synth Redux Vol. 1 • Memories and milestones from Small Towns Burn a Little Slower’s emotionally raw run in the mid-2000s • Playing guitar in Farewell Continental alongside Justin Pierre of Motion City Soundtrack • The challenges of staying creative, sane, and self-sufficient as an independent artist in 2025 • Why making art for the right reasons still mattersWhether you were raised on basement shows and emo singalongs, or you’re just discovering the wild, weird world of synth-punk, Tommy’s story is a testament to how underground artists survive, evolve, and thrive.⸻Links & Mentions:🎧 Toilet Rats on Bandcamp🏷 Steadfast Records🎸 Small Towns Burn a Little Slower🎤 Farewell Continental📷 Follow Tommy on Instagram: @toiletratsProduced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we’re honored to host Father Jamey Bozeman, guitarist and songwriter for iconic bands including Luxury, Golf Slang, They Sang as They Slew, Champion Leader and Canary. Jamey opens up about his remarkable dual life—shifting between performing emotionally charged indie rock and serving as an Orthodox priest. We trace his musical journey from the early days of Luxury’s explosive debut on Tooth & Nail Records, through near-death experiences, lineup changes, and the spiritual transformation that led several members of the band toward the priesthood.We also dive into the story behind the acclaimed documentary Parallel Love: The Story of a Band Called Luxury, which chronicles the band's rise, struggles, and rebirth. Jamey reflects on how themes of faith, suffering, and transcendence are woven through his songwriting, and how each of his projects—whether it's the raw energy of They Sang as They Slew or the experimental textures of Golf Slang—captures a different piece of his creative spirit.This conversation explores deep waters: the role of beauty in belief, the tension between performance and humility, and how decades of friendship and music have shaped one man’s life in profound and surprising ways. A must-listen for anyone who believes music can be more than just sound—it can be sacred.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we’re joined by the members of Hot Pink Turtle—Jamin Rathbun, Dion Tyler, Dave Mora, and Jay Cleem—for a rare and engaging conversation about their time as one of the most offbeat and genre-defying bands on the R.E.X. Records roster. Known for blending elements of jazz, funk, alternative rock, and quirky experimentation, Hot Pink Turtle created music that was wildly ahead of its time and stood out in a scene largely dominated by heavier or more straightforward styles.The band reflects on their origins, the creative energy behind their only full-length release Ticklewigglejigglepickle, and how they balanced humor, musicianship, and message in a scene that often took itself seriously. They share stories from touring, the challenges of being so sonically different, and what each member has been up to since the band’s brief but impactful run. This episode offers deep insight, laughs, and a true appreciation for a band that embraced weirdness and carved a lasting cult following in the process.Apologies for some of the technical difficulties Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, we sit down with Chase Moore, a cornerstone of Florida hardcore known for his roles in seminal bands like Seventh Star, Call to Preserve, and The Deal. Chase walks us through his early days in the scene, his introduction to hardcore, and how faith and conviction have played a central role in his life and music.We dive deep into the rise of Seventh Star and how their aggressive sound and spiritual backbone carved out a unique place in heavy music. Chase also reflects on the formation and legacy of Call to Preserve, offering insight into the straight edge and Christian hardcore movements of the 2000s.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
Wanting more The Never Was poscast, and yeah, let Mark talk more, geez.
there is a way too much interjecting/interupting..calm down and let the guy talk