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The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet.

From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world.

The Greener Way is the podcast of FS Sustainability, the premier weekly trade publication that covers how investors and companies are changing real world outcomes across environmental, social and governance issues.
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When it comes to advancing outcomes for First Nations Peoples, economic empowerment, accessibility, and financial literacy are at the fore.In this episode of The Greener Way, senior journalist and host Rose Mary Petrass is joined by Phil Usher, a proud Wiradjuri man, born and raised on Gomeroi country. He serves as CEO of Australia’s only national Indigenous financial wellbeing provider, the First Nations Foundation.Phil is on a mission to help Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities emerge from the effects of historical exclusion and oppression, empowering Community to deconstruct and unpack their relationship with money.Cultural competency is vital for finance and business to better engage with First Nations Peoples. The foundation is also equipping professionals with the cultural tools they need to ensure they safeguard respect and effective engagement through this process. 
In this episode of The Greener Way, we welcome to the show Erin Remblance – founder of (re)bBiz and Project Tipping Point.Erin runs programs teaching professionals how implementing the theories of de-growth and post-growth economics into their business strategies can address the ecological and climate crises.FS Sustainability senior journalist and host, Rose Mary Petrass, chats with Erin all about regenerative and sustainable systems, the concept of social tipping points, and the importance of partnering with First Nations organisations. 
Today, senior journalist and host Rose Mary Petrass sits down with Sharon Davis, Executive Director of Investments at Future Super, a superfund that invests for a fossil fuel free future with no coal, oil and gas holdings, and an ethos rooted in ethical investment with a focus on clean energy and social impact projects.The pair chat impact investing, stewardship (proxy voting and engagements), and how to approach divesting from fossil fuels while at the same time ensuring the fiduciary duty of long-term returns for members.
In the wake of the Qantas and ongoing Boeing scandals, investors – and the public – are asking questions on corporate governance, risk management, and ethical conduct.Today we chat with Megan Motto, CEO of the Governance Institute of Australia - a professional association for company secretaries, governance advisers and risk managers.Aircraft manufacturer Boeing is embroiled in a quality control scandal that included doors blowing off mid-flight and allegations of defects at a key supplier; while Qantas deals with the fallout of its CEOs Alan Joyces quitting in September following intense scrutiny from the national consumer watchdog for selling tickets on flights that didn’t exist.On the show today, Motto discusses how communication, transparency, and accountability, can safeguard trust, confidence, and company success.
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Rose Mary Petrass welcomes sustainability expert John Pabon to discuss the importance of international collaboration in combating greenwashing. They discuss cultural attitudes, consumer awareness, and regulatory frameworks around greenwashing, and dissect Australia's new climate reporting laws and its impact on corporate transparency. John's book The Great Greenwashing: How brands, governments, and influencers are lying to you, has just launched in the UK, North America, and Singapore.
On this episode of the Greener Way, we’re talking sustainability and intersectionality with Kylie Porter, Group Head of Sustainability, SunRice Group.Kylie has worked across a wide variety of organisations, but always at the intersection of the E the S and the G in sustainability.
Joining us for this conversation on The Greener Way is Brighter Super head of Aussie equities and ESG Fiona Mann to talk about the fund’s approach to ESG and what high performance means in a variety of settings and professions.
On today's episode, we are talking to the multi-hyphenate sustainability and responsible investment leader Fiona Reynolds about the intersection of the E and the S and why it matters for business.
Our guest today has been a leading voice in the economic case for managing climate change since before net zero was a thing. In addition to authoring two landmark papers on climate change and Australia’s future in 2008 and 2011, Ross Garnaut was the principal economic adviser to Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke from 1983 to 1985, and Australian Ambassador to China from 1985 to 1988.Now he and former ACCC chair Rod Sims have launched the Superpower Institute, which is designed to provide analysis to help Australia take advantage of the economic opportunities of the post-carbon world.Ross Garnaut explains the mission of the Superpower Institute and why he still believes Australia isn’t a pissant country when it comes to managing climate change.
What’s on the sustainability agenda for Australia’s publicly listed companies? Every Year, Perennial Better Futures takes the temperature of a wide range of companies to answer just that question, and on this episode, we’re talking with Emilie O’Neill, co-head of ESG and equities analyst of the Perennial Better Future Trust on the results of their 2024 survey and how those results shape their conversations with companies.
In this episode brought to you by Igneo Infrastructure Partners, part of First Sentier Investors, we’re talking poles, wires and utilities – the infrastructure sector. Infrastructure is one of those asset classes that is heavily exposed to the risks of climate change, but which is also key to decarbonizing our global economy. Joining us to talk about what that means for an investment strategy is Niall Mills, Igneo’s managing partner and head of global infrastructure investments.First Sentier Investors communicate and conduct business through different legal entities in different locations. This material is communicated in: •       Australia and New Zealand by First Sentier Investors (Australia) IM Ltd, authorised and regulated in Australia by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (AFSL 289017; ABN 89 114 194311).•       European Economic Area by First Sentier Investors (Ireland) Limited, authorised and regulated in Ireland by the Central Bank of Ireland (CBI reg no. C182306; reg office 70 Sir John Rogerson’s Quay, Dublin 2, Ireland; reg company no. 629188). •       Hong Kong by First Sentier Investors (Hong Kong) Limited and has not been reviewed by the Securities & Futures Commission in Hong Kong. First Sentier Investors, FSSA Investment Managers, Stewart Investors, and Realindex Investments are the business names of First Sentier Investors (Hong Kong) Limited. •       Singapore by First Sentier Investors (Singapore) (reg company no. 196900420D) and this advertisement or material has not been reviewed by the Monetary Authority of Singapore. First Sentier Investors (registration number 53236800B), FSSA Investment Managers (registration number 53314080C), Stewart Investors (registration number 53310114W) and Realindex Investments (registration number 53472532E) are the business divisions of First Sentier Investors (Singapore). •       Japan by First Sentier Investors (Japan) Limited, authorised and regulated by the Financial Service Agency (Director of Kanto Local Finance Bureau (Registered Financial Institutions) No.2611). •       United Kingdom by First Sentier Investors (UK) Funds Limited, authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (reg. no. 2294743; reg office Finsbury Circus House, 15 Finsbury Circus, London EC2M 7EB). •       United States by First Sentier Investors (US) LLC, authorised and regulated by the Securities Exchange Commission (RIA 801-93167).•       other jurisdictions, where this document may lawfully be issued, by First Sentier Investors International IM Limited, authorised and regulated in the UK by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA ref no. 122512; Registered office: 23 St. Andrew Square, Edinburgh, EH2 1BB; Company no. SC079063).
We’re well into the beginning of 2024, so it’s a good time to look back at what happened in sustainability in 2023 and what the big events and trends will be this year. Joining us for this conversation is Julia Leske, senior consultant ESG strategy at ISS ESG. ISS STOXX is the owner of both ISS ESG and ISS Media, publisher of this podcast. 
On this episode, we’re going to do a deeper dive into how we measure sustainable finance, and how we value the dollar impact of financing emissions-intensive activities. This is a key discussion point particularly as we look at Australia’s sustainable finance strategy and net zero targets. Here to help us understand it all is Nishtha Aggarwal, financed emissions analyst at think tank Climate Energy Finance.
In this conversation, we’re talking about making gold a little more green. If noted commodities experts and rock group Smashmouth taught us anything, it’s hey now, all that glitters is gold. Now the World Gold Council is working to make gold more sustainable and traceable.Link: https://www.gold.org/industry-standards/responsible-gold-mining
On this episode brought to you by First Sentier Investors, we’re talking responsible investment from the top down and the bottom up, and how an institutional investor builds its responsible investment strategy through an organisation. Joining us for this conversation is FSI global head of responsible investment Kate Turner, who is pretty much everywhere when it comes to the big discussions on responsible investment!First Sentier Investors communicate and conduct business through different legal entities in different locations. This material is communicated in: •       Australia and New Zealand by First Sentier Investors (Australia) IM Ltd, authorised and regulated in Australia by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (AFSL 289017; ABN 89 114 194311).•       European Economic Area by First Sentier Investors (Ireland) Limited, authorised and regulated in Ireland by the Central Bank of Ireland (CBI reg no. C182306; reg office 70 Sir John Rogerson’s Quay, Dublin 2, Ireland; reg company no. 629188). •       Hong Kong by First Sentier Investors (Hong Kong) Limited and has not been reviewed by the Securities & Futures Commission in Hong Kong. First Sentier Investors, FSSA Investment Managers, Stewart Investors, and Realindex Investments are the business names of First Sentier Investors (Hong Kong) Limited. •       Singapore by First Sentier Investors (Singapore) (reg company no. 196900420D) and this advertisement or material has not been reviewed by the Monetary Authority of Singapore. First Sentier Investors (registration number 53236800B), FSSA Investment Managers (registration number 53314080C), Stewart Investors (registration number 53310114W) and Realindex Investments (registration number 53472532E) are the business divisions of First Sentier Investors (Singapore). •       Japan by First Sentier Investors (Japan) Limited, authorised and regulated by the Financial Service Agency (Director of Kanto Local Finance Bureau (Registered Financial Institutions) No.2611). •       United Kingdom by First Sentier Investors (UK) Funds Limited, authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (reg. no. 2294743; reg office Finsbury Circus House, 15 Finsbury Circus, London EC2M 7EB). •       United States by First Sentier Investors (US) LLC, authorised and regulated by the Securities Exchange Commission (RIA 801-93167).•       other jurisdictions, where this document may lawfully be issued, by First Sentier Investors International IM Limited, authorised and regulated in the UK by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA ref no. 122512; Registered office: 23 St. Andrew Square, Edinburgh, EH2 1BB; Company no. SC079063).
The Clean Energy Finance Corporation is Australia’s green bank. Over the last 10 years, the CEFC has deployed more than ten billion dollars to invest in decarbonising Australia with an annualised cumulative return of 4.24%. But almost more importantly, because of their co-investment model,  each dollar of CEFC capital attracts just over five dollars of additional private capital to projects. CEFC Executive director Richard Lovell joins us for this conversation to talk about the past decade and the future of green investment in Australia.
Empirical evidence is clear: having a workforce that is diverse across a broad range of gender, cultural background and cognitive background results in better decision making. Here to talk about this topic is Raymone Jackson, head of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at T. Rowe Price
As we’re now in peak summer season, we here at the Greener Way are reviewing our swimwear wardrobe with an eye as always on the intersection of fashion and ethics. Joining us is Charys Caldarella, founder of ethical swimwear line Styelle Swim to talk about how to build a sustainable fashion brand from the ground up.
From December 12th, workplaces will be legally required to manage psychosocial risk in much the same way as physical risk - meaning workplaces can be held liable for sexual harassment and gender-based discrimination, and investigations can be made regardless of whether a complaint has been filed. In this podcast FS Sustainability Senior Journalist Rose Mary Petrass chats with new Sex Discrimination Commissioner Dr Anna Cody about the laws and what they mean for financial practitioners. Anna has a distinguished career as an academic and lawyer specialising in discrimination and human rights, working on cases involving domestic and family violence, LGBT+ discrimination and the Stolen Generation. 
Sure, you’ve got the know-how on all shades of green – but have you heard of blue finance?In our latest episode Lucy Holmes, Senior Director of Blue Finance at WWF US Oceans Markets & Finance, joins FS Sustainability senior journalist Rose Mary Petrass.Lucy works with banks and investors to identify the risks of a business-as-usual approach and to incorporate ocean-related ESG metrics into financial decision making. 
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