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Author: TWFO Couple - Matt & Paige Robinson

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Till The Wheels Fall Off (TWFO) podcast is hosted by Matt and Paige Robinson. TWFO focuses primarily on the relationship dynamics between spouses and partners of alcoholics or addicts and ways to best navigate the difficulties of codependent, addicted, unstable, and narcissistic behavior. The program is enjoyable and informative for anyone seeking self-betterment, inspiration, perspective, or direction with themes ranging from boundaries, recovery, marriage, and parenting with tons of humor built in. With over twenty years of experience in codependency recovery, addiction recovery, mental health battles, and navigating life's hurdles, the duo offers a valuable and unique perspective that is both inspiring and relatable.

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Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week on Paige’s Perspective, we’re digging into DARVO—the manipulative pattern people use to avoid accountability by flipping the script and making you question your reality. You’ll learn what DARVO looks like, why it happens, and how to spot it in both loud and subtle forms (even the sweet, guilt-soaked kind that sounds like love but isn’t). I’ll also share what healthy accountability sounds like and give you practical tools to protect your peace, st...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, we talk with a guest who opens up about the quiet, painful, and often invisible process of leaving a long-term relationship with someone struggling with addiction. This is not a story of one big moment. It’s about years of internal conflict, emotional detachment, financial planning, and facing the truth that love alone wasn't going to fix it. She shares what it felt like to carry the weight of the home, raise children in chaos, and slowly ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! A lot of people believe that once the drinking or drugs stop, life will finally start to feel better. But for many people in recovery, the opposite happens at first. The chaos disappears and what’s left can feel like a huge void. No excitement, no purpose, and no clear direction. In this Mindset Monday episode, we’ll talk about why that happens. Addiction hijacks the brain’s reward system, which is why early recovery can feel flat, boring, and emotionally ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige speaks directly to those who feel like they are just surviving each day. If you feel mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausted… if simple decisions feel overwhelming… if you wake up feeling dread or wonder if you will ever feel stable or joyful again… you may be living in survival mode. Survival mode happens when your nervous system has been under stress for too long. Your brain starts scanning everything...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week you’re hearing from a different Matt. Not Matt Robinson, but Matt Frates, the editor behind the scenes at Till the Wheels Fall Off. Matt shares his story of growing up as the son of an alcoholic, navigating emotional immaturity, estrangement, therapy, fatherhood, and ultimately learning that you cannot control the people in your life, but you can take ownership of your own. This episode is about breaking cycles, choosing intent, and finding light...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode is a direct conversation with the person who’s still drinking, still using, still bargaining, or quietly telling themselves they’re fine while their life feels smaller than it should. It was originally created for spouses to share with their partner, but over time we realized something: this message isn’t just for the people loving someone through addiction. It’s for the person in it. Matt speaks from lived experience, not theory. He walks thr...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige dives into a conversation we don’t have often enough: our own patterns. We spend a lot of time analyzing the behaviors and cycles of others, especially our partners, but rarely pause to examine the patterns we live inside of ourselves. Paige breaks down why patterns are so hard to recognize when we’re in them, why they feel justified and situational, and how the same responses can quietly keep us stuck. She exp...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This is Part 3 of our Boundaries series and the final episode in the three part framework. In Part 1, we focused on values, because boundaries only work when you know what matters to you. In Part 2, we identified the behaviors that violate those values and create confusion, anxiety, and resentment. In this episode, we get practical. We walk through what boundaries actually are, what they are not, and the most common mistakes that cause boundary setting to ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We’ve been taught that not trusting people means something is wrong with us. That if we don’t open up quickly, we must be closed off, bitter, or unhealed. I don’t agree with that at all. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, I talk about why trusting everyone by default is not healthy and why trust should be earned over time. We explore discernment versus avoidance, why caution gets pathologized, and how trusting yourself first is essential, especially a...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In Part 1, we started with values, because boundaries only work when you know what you stand for. In this episode, we move to the other side of the equation. What are the behaviors that make you feel uneasy, disrespected, or unsafe? What crosses a line for you, even if you have been taught to tolerate it? In Part 2, we break down what we call anti-values. The actions, patterns, and dynamics that create anxiety, erode self trust, and slowly disconnect you f...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! What if the thing holding you back isn’t your past…it’s the story you keep telling yourself about it? In this Mindset Monday, I’m coming for limiting beliefs. The quiet “rules” you picked up in survival mode and never updated. The lie that you’re not smart enough, not disciplined, not the “type” who gets sober, not the “type” who succeeds, not the “type” who gets a healthy relationship or a fresh start. I break down how these beliefs form (childhood chaos,...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! So many of us are incredibly hard on ourselves. We struggle to see the good in who we are, to trust our perceptions, or to believe we are capable of more. When you’ve been blamed, betrayed, or emotionally worn down in your most intimate relationship, it makes sense. Those experiences shape the stories we tell ourselves. In this episode, I walk through a practical, step-by-step way to identify limiting beliefs, understand the cost of believing them, questio...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Boundaries are the most requested topic we get, and most advice out there leaves people asking the same question: "Okay, but how do I actually do this?" This is Part 1 of a three-part Boundaries series, and we start where boundaries actually begin. With your values. Before you can decide what behavior you will tolerate, what is non negotiable, or what needs to change, you have to know what you stand for. Boundaries exist to defend what matters most to you....
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, I’m calling out the most common, most immature move men make after they finally start doing the bare minimum: demanding their spouse regulate perfectly while they’re still paying off a decade of damage. You don’t get to rack up the emotional debt and then complain about the interest rate. You don’t get to wreck the foundation and then cry about dust. We’ll talk about why spouses can’t “just flip the switch” (stress, hypervigilance, ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The recovery world loves to talk about healing, but who is it really built for? This episode was originally released in May 2025, and we are bringing it back because the conversation is just as relevant now as it was then. In it, Matt and Paige take a hard look at what treatment centers, therapists, and traditional recovery programs often miss when it comes to spouses, partners, and families. Why are partners so quickly labeled codependent? Why is their an...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Today is a big one. Paige and I are celebrating 25 years together, and I’m recording this Mindset Monday in that headspace, reflective, grateful, and honestly a little stunned that we’ve lived so many lifetimes inside one relationship. We met at 14. I always knew we’d make it. I just didn’t realize how non-linear the path would be, or how much of the turbulence would come from my addiction, my selfishness, and my immaturity. So in this episode, I look back...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige explores why so many of us feel like we are constantly running out of time, even when nothing is actually on fire. From the nervous system’s need to stay in survival mode to the fear of making the wrong choice in relationships and life, Paige talks about what’s really behind that sense of urgency so many of us carry. If you’ve ever felt behind in life, stuck waiting for someone else to change, or afraid that yo...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! A listener posted a question in our free TWFO Facebook community that I’ve heard a hundred times in recovery spaces: “You have to separate the person from the addiction. That wasn’t them.” And I get why people love that line. It reduces shame, makes forgiveness feel possible, and gives families hope. But for a lot of spouses and partners, something about it doesn’t sit right… because they’ve seen the “good version” and the “destructive version” show up in ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Some mornings feel like a personal attack. You are late. You are out of coffee. The house is a mess. Your kid’s shirt is dirty. Your nervous system is already fried and suddenly it feels like the whole day is ruined. In this Paige’s Perspective, Paige reminds you that one bad moment is not a bad day. She explains why our nervous systems treat small chaos like danger, how survival mode makes everything feel heavier than it actually is, and why acting like e...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Your kids are watching you. Not in a cute way. In a blueprint way. In this episode, we talk about the moment that punched Matt in the gut: watching our son at practice miss a shot, make a shot, and immediately scan the room for Dad’s face. Like, “How should I feel about this?” That was the reminder we all need. We are the emotional thermostat in the room. We get into what kids pick up from us way earlier than people think, how our phones and work habits qu...
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Nicole Brewer

I would seriously love to meet with you all when in McKinney!! My husband and I really enjoy this podcast as well as Tik Tok

Jun 18th
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Eva Winans Camp

matt, I want to challenge you regarding paige's car. maybe she doesn't want it to be a hot mess either. being a mom with kids ill tell you, she probably doesn't have control over it and has let go of it. maybe grab the kids and help her clean it out.

Jan 23rd
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