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THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
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Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks
This week Kevin plays a game of Gen-Z Slang with his fellow hosts before he shares his in-depth conversation with Jorge Casco. Jorge shares his turbulent start in the arts, how the arts can save lives, the power of an individual, and reminds us that we are all loved.
Jorge Casco is the Executive Director of FLY Dance Company (https://www.flydancecompany.com/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself
Bryan sits down with Lauren Jelencovich to talk about her impressive career. Lauren shares her journey from winning Star Search to attending the Manhattan School of Music to touring with Yanni as his featured vocalist for 13 years. Our hosts share phone calls that changed their lives and the importance of being present and saying yes.
Lauren Jelencovich (https://www.laurenjelencovich.com/) is a touring classical crossover artist.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution
Katie sits down with a former fellow Michigander, David Alpert, to talk all things Broadway. David shares his journey from wanting to be a theatre director in 5th grade to directing on Broadway. Katie and David talk about the impact of their local theatre scene growing up, the different roles on a Broadway directing team, and the importance of “showing up.”
David Alpert is a New York City-based theatre director, adjunct faculty at NYU, and the creator and host of the “E-Ticket to Broadway” podcast (https://www.eticketpodcast.com/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community.
Our hosts spend this week thinking about what they thought they would be when they grew up. Josh and Kevin share their conversation with Mark Morris, who the New York Times called, “the most successful and influential choreographer alive, and indisputably the most musical” and Nancy Umanoff, the masterful executive director whose work creates the space for Mark Morris and the Mark Morris Dance Group to create art. They share their 38-year journey together, the creation of the Mark Morris Dance Center, and the challenges of the evolving funding landscape in the arts.
Mark Morris is the Artistic Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group. Nancy Umanoff is the Executive Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group (https://markmorrisdancegroup.org/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge
This week we start with video games that taught us something before Bryan and Josh sit down with fellow presenter, Merrill Miller. Merrill shares his journey from booking his high school band gigs to booking bands at the North Shore Center. He talks about the challenges of booking a venue so close to Chicago, what a performing arts center can be, the importance of hospitality for performers, and a little about his hobby outside of the industry.
Merrill Miller is the Manager of Concerts/Marketing Assistant at the North Shore Center for the Performing Arts (https://northshorecenter.org/) in Skokie, Illinois.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything
Our hosts start this week’s episode talking about changing traditions. Bryan shares his conversation with award-winning performer, Jeeyoon Kim. Jeeyoon shares how and why she is challenging the traditions of classical music, her unique start in Korea with playing the piano, and the challenges of being a classical music performer after university.
Jeeyoon Kim is a classical pianist, educator, author (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/product-page/whenever-you-re-ready-autographed-copy) and a podcaster (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/podcast) with a mission to create a bridge between her as a performer and her audience to better share classical music.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self
This week, Danielle and Katie share their conversation with the powerhouse that is Sarah Saltwick. They dig into taking ownership of Holden & Arts, managing the agency with three leaders, and what running an agency entails. Sarah also shares how she got started in the industry, how she continues to get involved and learn more, and attempting to balance business, life, and her artistic endeavors. Our hosts this week take a look back in their lives to what seemed like simpler times.
Sarah Saltwick is a Co-Director of Holden & Arts Associates (https://www.holdenarts.org/) and handles Sales & Artistic Relations. She is also a playwright and avid supporter of the industry as a whole through various volunteer roles.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans
To start this episode our hosts discuss the artist they presented that created that surreal moment of “I can’t believe this is happening”. Bryan and John discuss the origin of the Berks Jazz Fest and its subsequent development. His theory on taking care of the artist and the fans and the rest will take care of itself. We learn about how the Jazz Fest developed through community partnerships and everyone being on board.
John is retiring as general manager and artistic director of The Berks Jazz Fest, a festival featuring over 100 performances in 10 days. Find more information at https://www.berksjazzfest.com
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay Flexible
Our hosts share their choices for “live on stage” adaptations before Josh shares his conversation with Jenny and Didi. They share their incredible journey in starting RoadCo in collaboration with Sony Music Entertainment. This honest conversation shares the ins and outs of this relationship, what it takes to put a show on the road, and how relationships with presenters help influence new touring shows.
Didi Perez and Jenny Sirota are both Principal Agents for RoadCo Entertainment (https://www.roadcoentertainment.com/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community
This week Katie and Kevin sit down with Joshua Heim to talk equity, Western Arts Alliance, the state of the arts and more. Josh shares his journey in the arts, Hula as a lifestyle, working with and for constituents, and the role of the arts in communities. Our hosts this week share awkward meetings and interesting meeting locations.
Joshua Heim is the Executive Director of Western Arts Alliance (https://www.westarts.org/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the Flow
Our hosts share just some of the many influential women in their lives. Danielle sits down with another influential woman in our lives, Ally Haynes-Hamblin. Ally shares her lineage in the arts, the challenging role of being a "fixer,” her leadership style and philosophy, and how to get involved in a community.
Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Performing Arts Professionals (APAP).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust
Our hosts share their dreams on what they would do with an abandoned mall before our guest Jim Lenz joins Josh for a conversation. Jim shares his love for live music, booking artists into venues in high school, importance of artists taking control of their marketing, and changes in PAC rock shows over the years.
Jim Lenz is with TKO Booking Agency (https://tkoco.com/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an inside look at the program at Dean College.
David Rowell is the Associate Professor and Program Coordinator of Arts and Entertainment Management at Dean College in Franklin, Massachusetts (https://www.dean.edu/academics/majors-degrees/arts-and-entertainment-management/). Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller are students in the Arts and Entertainment Management Program.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an Honor
Before we kick-off this week’s interview the Pod Squad gives their opinion on camping, and the team congrats Josh on his appointment to the board of NAPAMA (https://www.napama.org/). The Okee Dokee Brothers join the podcast to be interviewed by their number one grownup fan, Katie Miller! They share how they started the group, their adventure albums, engaging with their fans to market their shows, turning down a GRAMMY nomination, and more.
Joe Mailander and Justin Lansing make up The GRAMMY Award winning group, The Okee Dokee Brothers (https://www.okeedokee.org/). Joe and Justin record and perform family music with a goal to inspire children and their parents to step outside and get creative.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most Rewarding
Our hosts talk about big professional risks and this week Kevin shares his conversation with Sarah Rogers. Sarah shares her early introduction to the arts, her introduction to being an agent, the challenges of touring major dance pieces and more. Sarah also shares the importance of mentorship and the importance of funding mentorship programs. Our host continue the conversation about dance, international work, and green touring.
Sarah Rogers is an agent and producer representing Dana Gingras, Animals of Distinction (https://animalsofdistinction.org/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of Rebranding
Our hosts talk about “pandemic pivots,” before Josh’s engaging conversation with Dan Talmi. Dan Talmi shares his almost reluctant start in the family business, overseeing an impressive rebrand amid global conflict, the evolution of marketing, merchandising as an experience, and so much more. Our hosts continue the conversation and discuss the concept of the “house merch cut.”
Dan Talmi is a Producing Director at Talmi Entertainment, the company behind the holiday classic, Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet (https://nutcracker.com/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With Respect
The Pod Squad talks who they would play in a biopic, with varying levels of seriousness. This week Katie talks with Jared Freiburg, who “can play like a mother”, about his incredible and short (but still unfolding) career. Jared shares how he started working in the touring industry, life as a cruise ship performer, life on the road, starting his own band, the challenges of being a performer, and so much more. Jared also shares some tangible takeaways for new artists who want to get started touring.
Jared Freiburg (https://jfreiburg.com/) is a musician, performer, and front man of Jared Freiburg and The Vagabonds. Jared toured as Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet and helped create the role of Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet Christmas.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be Funny
Our hosts share embarrassing moments before Bryan and Josh share their conversation with comedian Dena Blizzard. Dena tells her story of being a comic, creating an off-Broadway show, and eventually creating a multi-media company, starting with her unique approach to marketing. Dena shares funny stories and poignant moments in her career.
Dena Blizzard is a comedian, mother of three and creator of “One Funny Mother”, a multi-media company creating content (https://www.onefunnymother.com/), products and live comedy shows about “Wine, Women and Laughter”.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service
This week Katie shares her conversation with friend of the podcast Pam Komar of the Pittsburgh Cultural Trust. They discuss the power of embracing change, how to focus on wellness and taking care of yourself, and how particular programming areas are avenues to connecting with disengaged audiences. Pam also shares the history of the Cultural Trust and the impact it continues to have on Pittsburgh. Our hosts share how they unplug and take time for themselves, and we discover that Kevin is actually from the Jersey Shore.
Pam Komar is the Director of Programming at The Pittsburgh Cultural Trust (https://trustarts.org/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Ep. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams
Kevin tries out his old-timey radio voice before sitting down with Wone Vang. Wone shares the struggle of being a full-time artist and full-time employee, the Guaranteed Income Program she is managing for Springboard for the Arts, and the importance of pay equity. Our hosts talk about their life in cross stich, what individuals can do to increase pay equity, and how we can learn more on these topics.
Wone Vang is an artist (https://3drdcrafts.com/) and the Economic Opportunity Director at Springboard for the Arts (https://springboardforthearts.org/).
Resources mentioned in this episode:
The Art of Economic Justice: https://springboardforthearts.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/GI_Impact_Report_SBftA_2023.pdf
Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez: https://tooambitious.com/
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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