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Author: ALLAN SICARD

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AUTHOR, SPEAKER, PODCASTER, FACILITATOR, LEADERSHIP CONSULTANT FOR LEADERS WHO EMPOWER OTHERS TO CREATE SUPPORTIVE AND INCLUSIVE WORKPLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO THEIR ABSOLUTE BEST.
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I want to share the insights and lessons from my conversation with Abby Jane, a young advocate for the LGBTIQA+ community whose story is a testament to the power of leadership, empathy, and resilience. A Leader in the Making: Abby Jane's Early Steps Abby Jane's journey into leadership began at the tender age of eight when she volunteered and fundraised for cancer research. Her initiative to donate her hair and raise $3500 showcased her early commitment to making a difference. Her involvement in Scouts further honed her skills in team-building and friendship, laying the foundation for her future endeavours. The Birth of the Rainbow Shoelace Project At 12, Abby Jane started the Rainbow Shoelace Project, a beacon of support for the LGBTIQA+ community. The project stemmed from her personal struggle with isolation and fear upon entering high school as a young queer person. Initially, rainbow-coloured beads on her shoelaces were a personal symbol of her identity, but fear of being targeted led her to remove them. This act of self-censorship sparked the idea for the project, aiming to remind individuals that they are loved and supported. The Rainbow Shoelace Project transcends the simple act of threading beads onto shoelaces; it's a metaphor for inclusivity and support. Abby Jane's message is clear: no one should feel alone or isolated because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Family: A Pillar of Support Abby Jane's personal story of coming out as bisexual to her mother, Sophie, highlights the importance of a supportive family. She credits her mother and grandfather as instrumental in her advocacy work, providing a nurturing environment that allowed her to thrive and pursue her passion for helping others. From a Local Noticeboard to Global Impact The project's humble beginnings with six packets of beads on a Woolies noticeboard in Broken Hill have since reached international heights, including places like South Korea. With over 250,000 packs of rainbow beads distributed since March 2022, Abby Jane's initiative demonstrates how small actions can lead to significant change.The beads, given away for free, ensure accessibility for all, particularly young people without supportive parents or financial means. Funded by her single mother and reliant on donations, the project is a labor of love, with each pack of beads carefully assembled with the help of volunteers. Overcoming Adversity: Abby Jane's Resilience Abby Jane's move from Broken Hill to Port Macquarie was a result of the bullying and homophobia she faced. Her experiences at World Pride in Sydney and participation in Mardi Gras were not only opportunities for advocacy but also moments of personal growth and healing. The Power of Community and Acceptance The impact of the Rainbow Shoelace Project is evident in the stories shared by those it has touched. From a 50-year-old man coming out to his doctor, sparked by a conversation about the beads, to individuals feeling safe to express their identity, the project's reach is profound. Abby Jane's Advice to Aspiring Change makers For those looking to make a difference, Abby Jane's advice is invaluable: stay true to yourself, embrace your authenticity, and maintain your passion. Challenges will arise, but with heart and determination, amazing things can be accomplished. A Beacon of Hope Abby Jane's wisdom, bravery, and courage are a beacon of hope for those in need of support. Her work with the Rainbow Shoelace Project is a powerful reminder that even the smallest gestures can have a monumental impact on people's lives. In closing, I want to express my deepest admiration for Abby Jane and her mother, Sophie. Their dedication to creating a more inclusive and accepting world is truly inspiring. As we continue to share stories like Abby Jane's, we contribute to a culture of empathy, understanding, and support for all.
44.  CORINNE WEST

44. CORINNE WEST

2024-03-2901:31:10

I'm excited to share with you the insights and experiences of an extraordinary guest, Corinne West, the head of diversity and inclusion at King and Wood Mallesons. It is a story that I believe will resonate with many of you. The Genesis of Leadership: A Dance Teacher's Journey Corinne's story begins with a touching recollection of her first experience of leadership. As a primary school student, she organised a fundraiser for bushfire victims, showcasing her innate ability to lead and empathise from a young age. This early act of kindness set the stage for a life dedicated to serving others. Her background as a dance teacher further shaped her leadership style, instilling in her the importance of discipline, creativity, and the ability to guide others. Dance, as Corinne would attest, is more than an art—it's a medium through which life lessons are imparted. Triumphs and Tribulations: IVF, Miscarriage, and Loss Corinne's journey, however, has not been without its hardships. She speaks candidly about her personal struggles with IVF and miscarriage, a testament to her resilience. The loss of her younger brother added another layer of grief, yet through these experiences, Corinne's strength and capacity for leadership only grew. Embracing Vulnerability: The Power of Personal Stories Throughout our conversation, Corinne emphasises the importance of sharing personal stories. She believes that by doing so, we can show that adversity is a common thread in the tapestry of leadership. It's not the absence of hardship that defines us, but rather how we navigate through it. A Historian's Heart: Storytelling and Service Corinne's background as an oral and academic historian reveals her passion for storytelling and its power to challenge the written record. Her work with different communities and her involvement in a project on Australia's involvement in global peace operations demonstrate her commitment to giving back and creating positive change. From Academia to the Army: A Leap of Faith Transitioning from academia to a temporary position in the army, Corinne found herself supported in an unexpected environment. Despite fears of failure and the impermanent nature of work, she embraced the opportunity to apply her skills in research and storytelling to a new context, leading to personal and professional growth. Leading Cultural Reform: Empathy and Empowerment Corinne's role in leading the cultural reform framework for the army, in response to reviews on defense culture, showcases her ability to adapt her expertise to drive change. Her work with disadvantaged communities, such as documenting the history of Kew Cottages, underscores the importance of giving voice to marginalized groups. The Fire Services: Confronting Resistance Working in the fire services presented Corinne with new challenges, particularly in promoting diversity and inclusion. She faced resistance and barriers, especially concerning the treatment of women. Through open dialogue and sharing personal stories, Corinne worked to foster empathy and understanding within the organisation. The Ongoing Battle for Inclusivity Corinne's experiences highlight the complexities of driving cultural change in resistant environments. She emphasises the need for humility, respect, and consistent effort to create a positive and inclusive workplace. Her approach to cultural reform is a testament to her leadership and dedication to diversity and inclusion. In conclusion, my conversation with Corinne West has been a profound reminder that leadership is not just about the positions we hold but the lives we touch and the stories we share. Her journey from a young fundraiser to a champion of diversity and inclusion is a powerful narrative of how our experiences shape us and how, in turn, we can shape the world around us.
43. MARK STONE AM

43. MARK STONE AM

2024-03-1901:32:28

Leading Through Adversity: Insights from Mark Stone, CEO of Parks Victoria Mark, the CEO of Parks Victoria, is not only recognised for his leadership but also for his significant role during the harrowing bushfire period in Victoria in 2009. Navigating Crisis with Compassion and Collaboration The 2009 bushfires in Victoria were a time of immense tragedy, and leading an organisation through such a crisis was no small feat. Mark recounted the challenges his team faced, from the heartbreaking loss of lives to the widespread impact on the community. He stressed the importance of collaboration with emergency services, staff, the community, and the government in the recovery process. It was a time that called for leaders to help people heal emotionally, physically, and environmentally. Mark spoke of the resilience and dedication of his staff, who supported each other through debriefings after gruelling shifts. He also highlighted the significance of acknowledging their hard work and the sacrifices made by their families through a heartfelt video tribute. The Roots of Resilience: A Personal Journey Delving into his personal background, Mark shared anecdotes from his early life in a small town in the Goulburn Valley. His strong work ethic was evident from a young age, as he humorously recalled his days as a champion tomato picker at 14. These experiences, along with the influence of his family, shaped the values that would guide his leadership style. Lessons in Leadership from the Football Field Mark's journey in leadership was not confined to the boardroom; it extended to the football field. He drew parallels between his experiences as a player and coach and the world of business. Football taught him the importance of empowering individuals and fostering an inclusive environment. He shared a touching story of a young player who, despite not being able to kick a football well, found a place in the team as a goal umpire, contributing in his unique way. Career Progression and Embracing Change Mark's career trajectory is a testament to his adaptability and willingness to embrace new challenges. From climbing the ranks in the football industry to leading change in business organisations, he never shied away from proving his capabilities. He discussed the consolidation of regional manager roles and the resistance he faced, offering insights into leading through change. Advocating for "Healthy Parks, Healthy People" As the director of national parks, Mark championed the "healthy parks, healthy people" concept, which resonated not only in Victoria but also on an international scale. His efforts were recognised by the US park service and even caught the attention of Michelle Obama. This initiative underscored the importance of community well-being and the role of parks in public health. Teamwork and the Power of Collaboration Throughout our conversation, Mark emphasised the value of teamwork and the collective success achieved when everyone works towards a common goal. He drew on sports analogies to illustrate the importance of each team member's contribution and the need for a team-oriented approach. A Life of Service and the Impact of Mentorship Mark's work with young people in the football industry highlighted the significance of mentorship. He helped them overcome challenges and find meaningful roles, focusing not just on their physical abilities but also on their communication skills and personal development. Recognition and Reflection Mark underscored the importance of listening, learning, and working with a diverse range of people. He encouraged ambition and the willingness to adapt tactics when necessary. The Takeaway Mark's commercial and community-oriented examples throughout the interview were a testament to his wisdom. His commitment to helping others in various capacities is truly inspiring.
42. FELIX ELLIS MP

42. FELIX ELLIS MP

2024-03-0139:39

The Roots of Leadership: From Head Boy to Minister Our conversation began with a look back at Felix's first brush with leadership as the head boy of his primary school in Broome, Kimberley. He candidly shared that he felt ill-prepared at the time and didn't represent his peers as well as he would have liked. This early experience taught him valuable lessons about preparation, focusing on people, and the essence of servant leadership. The Reality of Trade We discussed Felix's background as a plumber and gas fitter. The values of hard work, humility, and practical problem-solving were ingrained in him during his apprenticeship. These skills proved invaluable, enabling him to assist individuals from various backgrounds throughout his career as a tradesperson. Navigating the Challenges of Tasmanian Politics The conversation then turned to the demanding nature of the Tasmanian state government. Felix attributed his success in this environment to his upbringing, voracious reading habits, and admiration for political leaders who demonstrated courage under pressure. His political interests were sparked by his remote upbringing and the influence of his parents, especially his mother, a remote area nurse. When discussing the skills he aspires to emulate, Felix listed several political leaders, noting their courage and conviction in serving the public. He also recognised the importance of humility and the pursuit of continuous learning in politics. A Rapid Rise and the Weight of Responsibility Felix's ascent in the Tasmanian parliament has been swift, with him now holding multiple significant roles, including being the leader of the house. He spoke of the diverse responsibilities he manages and the rapid progression of his political career. The Finite Nature of Political Leadership Felix and I delved into the impact of his senior government positions on his leadership approach, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. He acknowledged the limited time frame of political leadership and the imperative to make a meaningful impact. Felix emphasised the need to consider the future and the challenges that lie ahead for the next generations, such as an aging population, climate change, and global instability. The Role of Family in Shaping a Leader Turning to his personal life, Felix spoke about his wife, Margo, and her role as his moral compass. Their home discussions range from professional matters to the everyday challenges of renovating their old house, illustrating the normalcy behind the public figure. Empowering Others: The Hallmark of True Leadership Felix shared his advice for aspiring leaders, stressing the importance of embracing diverse viewpoints, practicing humility, and empowering those around them. He suggested that careers in the military or policing could provide a solid foundation for future politicians, given the skills and life perspectives these roles offer. Gratitude and Reflections As our conversation drew to a close, I expressed my gratitude for Felix's openness and insights. His leadership philosophy and personal values offer a blueprint for effective governance and serve as an inspiration for current and future leaders alike. Felix's participation in the interview was not only an honour but also a reminder of the profound impact that thoughtful and courageous leadership can have on society. In this podcast, we've journeyed through the experiences and insights of Minister Felix Ellis, a leader who embodies the courage and dedication required to navigate the complexities of government and the ever-changing landscape of public service. His story is a testament to the power of humility, hard work, and the relentless pursuit of improvement – principles that can guide us all, regardless of our chosen paths.
41.  CHERYL MCCARTHY

41. CHERYL MCCARTHY

2024-02-1501:20:18

Cheryl's remarkable contributions to emergency services in New South Wales have earned her nominations as the Surf Lifesaver of the Year for both New South Wales and Australia. Collaborative Leadership: A Key to Success During our talk, Cheryl emphasised the importance of a collaborative approach to leadership. Recognising the diverse skill sets and experiences that each team member brings to the table is crucial. She believes that adapting one's leadership style to embrace and enhance the strengths of the team is essential for success. Her insights on leadership are not just theoretical; they are backed by her impressive nominations, which recognise her exemplary leadership qualities. Facing Fears and Embracing Challenges In a lighter moment, Cheryl revealed her fear of elevators, a surprising fact that led to a humorous exchange about the unexpected fears we all face. It's these human moments that remind us that leaders, too, have their vulnerabilities. Her passion for emergency response and management has been a driving force over the past five years, shaped by her diverse background. A Journey of Growth and Adaptation Cheryl's journey is a rich tapestry of experiences, from owning a small business to working in marketing, communications, and fundraising. Her 17 years in Canada, including time spent with the Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra and the University of Calgary, have equipped her with invaluable skills. These experiences have taught her to navigate different organisational environments and to value the contributions of each team member. Learning from Bureaucracies and Self-Reflection Cheryl candidly discussed the challenges of adjusting to new leadership and the importance of honest self-reflection. She shared a poignant example of leaving a job due to a lack of communication, yet doing so with professionalism and dignity. Her ability to preserve relationships and learn from mistakes is a powerful lesson for all aspiring leaders. From Consultancy to Community Leadership Upon transitioning to Australia, Cheryl continued her consultancy business and became deeply involved in the local community. Her volunteer work at the surf club led to leadership roles in emergency management and response. She drew parallels between event management and emergency management, underscoring the importance of collaboration, communication, and preparedness. The Impact of the Black Summer Bushfires Cheryl's involvement in the Rural Fire Service and her experiences during the Black Summer bushfires of 2019-2020 were profound. She recounted the emotional and logistical challenges of managing a large number of people seeking refuge at the surf club. Her story highlighted the power of support, teamwork, and leadership in responding to such a devastating crisis. Teamwork and Recognition Throughout our conversation, Cheryl consistently attributed her success to the incredible team she works with. She expressed gratitude for their collaborative efforts and the inspiration they provide. Her humility and recognition of her team's role in her achievements speak volumes about her character as a leader. Leadership Lessons for Aspiring Leaders Cheryl's insights on leadership are invaluable. She stressed the importance of communication, reflection, and integrity. Aspiring leaders should prioritise listening, understanding motivations, and making tough decisions for the right reasons. Maintaining integrity, honesty, and inclusivity are non-negotiable traits for effective leadership. In Conclusion Our interview with Cheryl McCarthy was not just a conversation; it was a masterclass in leadership. Her experiences during the fires, her humility in acknowledging her team's contributions, and her unwavering commitment to community service are lessons for us all. Thank you, Cheryl, for your service and for reminding us of the impact one person can have when they lead with courage, compassion, and collaboration.
40. SHAUN WARDEN

40. SHAUN WARDEN

2024-01-3101:14:13

A Wild Symphony: Shaun Warden's Journey from Music to Wildlife Advocacy Today, I'm thrilled to share the insights and experiences of Shaun Warden, the remarkable founder of the Growing Food for Wildlife Project, a wildlife rehabilitator, citizen scientist, educator, aspiring vet, violinist, and conductor. A Symphony of Skills: Shaun Warden's Multifaceted Life Shaun's journey is a testament to the power of diverse interests converging towards a singular purpose. From his early days mediating disputes among classmates, Shaun recognised his innate leadership abilities. His love for music and historical performance not only led him to become a musician and historian but also shaped his approach to leading community-driven conservation efforts. Nurturing Nature: The Project's Impact and Expansion Throughout our conversation, Shaun shared the project's evolution, from its humble beginnings to its recognition by notable figures like Costa Georgiadis from ABC's Gardening Australia. The project's reach has extended to various sites in Sydney, such as Pennant Hills, Flat Rock Gully in Willoughby, and the Randwick Sustainability Centre, as well as a site within Melbourne city in collaboration with Melbourne University. Overcoming Challenges: The Art of Collaboration Shaun's ability to bring together different organisations and councils, despite initial resistance, underscores the significance of communication and collaboration. He emphasises the need to prioritise wildlife well-being and the role of mentorship in his personal and professional growth. The project's workshops and educational sessions further highlight the collective effort in wildlife conservation. Tech Meets Nature: An App for Conservation In a move to harness technology for environmental good, Shaun discussed the development of an app designed to connect individuals with native plants to wildlife rehabilitators. This innovative tool aims to simplify the process of caring for local wildlife and encourage community participation. The Harmony of Leadership: Conducting Change Drawing parallels between his musical background and his leadership style, Shaun reflected on the importance of trust and empowerment. He shared how gardening for wildlife has the power to unite people and mend relationships, demonstrating the unifying force of shared goals. Life Lessons and Self-Care: The Elastic Band Metaphor Shaun's personal story of learning the importance of balance and boundaries resonated deeply. He likened life to playing with elastic bands, emphasising the need to challenge oneself without overstretching. His experience with burnout and the crucial role his partner played in finding equilibrium offers a powerful message about self-care and living in the moment. Parting Wisdom: Empowerment and Purpose As our conversation drew to a close, Shaun imparted advice for aspiring leaders: listen to the environment, draw inspiration from others, and lead with purpose and heart. His encouragement to set boundaries and focus on self-care is a reminder of the delicate balance required to sustain passion and avoid burnout. For those eager to learn more about Shaun's incredible work, I invite you to visit the Growing Food for Wildlife Project's website at www.growingfoodforwildlifeproject.org. It has been an absolute pleasure to host Shaun Warden on my podcast, and I am honoured to share his story with you. His dedication to wildlife conservation and community engagement is a beacon of hope and a call to action for us all. Let us take a leaf out of Shaun's book and strive to make a positive impact in our own communities, one plant, one animal, and one conversation at a time.
39. LAUREN CASSIMATIS

39. LAUREN CASSIMATIS

2023-12-1301:19:45

In a recent episode of our podcast, I had the pleasure of welcoming Lauren Cassimatis, the principal lawyer and director of Gallant Law, the founder of Connecting Lawyer Mums, and an ambassador for She Inspires Me Australia. Lauren's journey is a testament to her innate leadership skills, her passion for problem-solving, and her commitment to community wellbeing. Advocating for Rehabilitation and Prevention Lauren, a criminal lawyer, strongly believes in the importance of rehabilitation and prevention of crime in promoting community wellbeing and safety. She argues that punitive measures often do more harm than good. She is proud to support Success Works, an organisation that helps women get back on track and contribute to society. The Birth of Connecting Lawyer Mums Connecting Lawyer Mums, initially known as Criminal Law Mums, started with Lauren sharing relatable stories on Instagram. The response from other women was overwhelming, leading to the organisations first networking evening, which saw a surprising turnout of 30 women. This success motivated Lauren to continue organising events centered around resilience, imposter syndrome, and other topics related to wellbeing and empowerment. Within six months, the organisation grew to include over 400 members, prompting the expansion to include lawyers from different areas of law. Building a Community Lauren is grateful for the support she has received from the community in organising events. She mentions Michelle Boundy, who helped her source the venue, and a neuropsychologist from the Gold Coast who connected her with donors for a silent auction. She also mentions a Byron Bay lawyer who has a side hustle in fashion and will be putting on a fashion exhibit at their ceremony next year. The Impact of Connecting Lawyer Mums Lauren shares two stories of women who were motivated by Connecting Lawyer Mums to start their own law firms. One woman had self-doubt and felt stuck in her current workplace, but through Connecting Lawyer Mums, she gained the confidence to start her own firm. The other woman, a single mom, started her own firm after her husband left her, and she found encouragement and support from other Connecting Lawyer Mums members. The Journey to Becoming a Lawyer Lauren shares her upbringing and the values instilled in her by her father and grandmother. Despite facing discouragement from some teachers who doubted her potential, her father always believed in her and supported her aspirations. She pursued legal studies in high school and fell in love with the subject, eventually getting into law school with her father's help. The Values Behind Gallant Law When Lauren started her firm, it was just her, but she has since grown her team to 14 members. She carefully recruits individuals who share her values and care about their clients and the community. She wants to challenge the misconception that criminal lawyers are rogues who cause trouble in the community. The Importance of Believing in Your "Why" Lauren emphasises the importance of believing in your "why." Understanding why you want to lead, why you want to make a difference, and why you want to pursue your goals is crucial. For Lauren, her overarching why is to show people, especially her children, what women are capable of and the power of kindness.
38. ADAM HOLLIOAKE

38. ADAM HOLLIOAKE

2023-11-2301:17:11

From Cricket Captain to Cage Fighter: A Journey of Leadership and Self-Discovery with Adam Hollioake Introduction A former cricketer and captain of the Surrey cricket team, Adam's journey of leadership and self-discovery is nothing short of inspiring. The Unexpected Leader Adam's first experience of leadership came unexpectedly when he was asked to captain the Surrey cricket team at the tender age of 21. Among those who mentored him were cricket legends like Alex Stewart, Graham Thorpe, Saqlain Mushtaq, Azhar Mahmood, and Martin Bicknell. Alex Stewart, in particular, played a pivotal role in helping Adam navigate the responsibilities of captaincy and introduced him to the world of cricket committee meetings. The Fiery Leader Adam's fiery and rebellious streak, which initially made others doubt his leadership potential, became a strength as he learned to manage his emotions and anger. His honesty and openness about his struggles and growth as a leader are commendable. The Spiritual Leader In a surprising revelation, Adam shared his newfound religious faith. Despite his background in professional boxing and cage fighting, Adam has become quite religious, attending church a couple of times a week. This unexpected interest in religion, influenced by his mother and a self-help book "The Power of Positive Thinking," shows Adam's willingness to explore new ideas and expand his knowledge - a characteristic of a true leader. The Evolving Leader Adam's journey as a leader in cricket was not something he aspired to. His initial focus was on being the best cricketer he could be. However, he gradually evolved into a leader, taking the role seriously. By the age of 24, he was already captaining the England Lions, and by 25, he became the captain of the English cricket team. The Reflective Leader Adam's leadership journey was not without its ups and downs. He also faced a challenging situation where his own position in the team was being questioned. He made decisions based on others' expectations rather than his own instincts, leading to a loss. This experience taught him the importance of staying true to himself and the pain of regret being worse than the pain of losing. The Humble Leader Adam emphasises the importance of humility as a leader. He believes that acknowledging the expertise of others and showing respect for their knowledge creates a positive and productive atmosphere. He also stresses the importance of self-reflection and honesty in understanding oneself. The Fighter Adam's transition from cricket to boxing and MMA came after he retired from cricket at the age of 32. He felt lost and needed to be back in a competitive world. Boxing and cricket both require mental toughness, and through boxing, Adam learned to organise his thinking and manage his emotions during fights. The Resilient Leader Adam's resilience and perseverance have played a significant role in his life. Despite numerous failures in cricket, fighting, and life, he has learned to overcome these challenges and not let them define him. He is currently involved in mental health initiatives, particularly in men's mental health, and is pursuing a study in sports psychology. Words of Wisdom Adam's advice for someone embarking on a leadership journey is not to take oneself too seriously and not to act as if one knows everything just because they are the leader. He emphasises the importance of humility and accepting advice from the people being led. Conclusion Adam's journey from cricket captain to cage fighter is a testament to his courage, resilience, and leadership. His insights and experiences provide valuable lessons for anyone embarking on a leadership journey. As the host of the Courage to Lead Interview Series, I am grateful for Adam's openness and honesty, and I look forward to sharing more inspiring stories of leadership in the future.
I recently had the pleasure of welcoming Stephanie Copus Campbell, Australia’s Ambassador for Gender Equality, to my podcast. The Role of Gender Equality in Society As Australia’s lead advocate on gender equality, Stephanie works under the portfolio of Minister Penny Wong, Australia’s Foreign Minister. She emphasises that when every person has equal opportunities to reach their full potential, society as a whole benefits. She has witnessed the positive impact of gender equality throughout her long career, including happier and more prosperous families, healthier children, higher incomes, and more peaceful and stable communities. Stephanie also highlights the economic benefits of gender equality, noting that countries with gender equality tend to be more prosperous. However, she acknowledges that women and girls often face greater barriers than men and boys in reaching their full potential due to entrenched social norms and gender perspectives. These barriers can manifest in various sectors, such as education, workforce, and accessing health services. A Journey from Alaska to Australia Stephanie’s upbringing in Alaska shaped her values and understanding of community. After studying international relations in the UK, she met her husband, Angus Campbell, who is now the Chief of the Defence Force in Australia. They made the decision to be together, which led Stephanie to drop out of her PhD program and move back to England. They eventually settled in Perth, Western Australia, where Stephanie began her career with the Australian Red Cross, focusing on international humanitarian law. Balancing Dual Careers and Family Stephanie and Angus have supported each other’s careers, despite the challenges of being in different countries for extended periods. They have had open discussions and made sacrifices to make their dual careers work. Stephanie emphasises the importance of gender equality in their relationship and how it has enabled her to pursue her career in foreign policy. The Importance of Vision and Inspiring Leadership Stephanie believes in the importance of setting a vision and inspiring people to work towards it. She shares an example from her experience in Papua New Guinea, where the urgency of the situation motivated people to step up and take risks. She emphasises the need for a permissive environment for failure, where people can learn from their mistakes and grow. Leading a Gender Equality Life When asked for advice on leading a gender equality life, Stephanie emphasises the importance of self-care and having a well-rounded life. She encourages individuals to prioritise their own well-being, as it enables them to better support others. Stephanie shares her own self-care practices, such as surrounding herself with animals and exercising daily. Everyday Heroes Stephanie shares a powerful story about an incredible woman she met in Papua New Guinea. This woman was a midwife in a remote village, working without running water or electricity. Despite the challenging conditions, this woman prioritised the needs of her community and found ways to provide holistic care with limited resources. Stephanie greatly admires her and often thinks of her when facing tough times. The Importance of Self-Care and Support Stephanie emphasises the importance of seeking support, especially as one advances in their career. She personally relies on good friends and her husband for debriefing and emotional support. She also mentions the significance of finding someone to talk to after witnessing traumatic events or experiencing vicarious trauma.
36. CORDELIA FINE

36. CORDELIA FINE

2023-10-2901:25:10

Hello there, I'm thrilled to share with you the latest episode of our Courage to Lead podcast series, where we had the privilege of hosting the brilliant Professor Cordelia Fine. A philosopher of science, psychologist, and writer, Cordelia's work on gender differences is both enlightening and thought-provoking. Here are some key takeaways from our conversation: 1. The First Experience of Leadership: Cordelia believes that our first experience of leadership begins at birth, emphasizing the role of caregiver-baby interactions in shaping our cognitive, social, emotional, and moral development. 2. Challenging Gender Stereotypes: Cordelia's book, "Delusions of Gender," is a deep dive into the scientific evidence behind gender differences. She challenges popular views and stereotypes, making academic ideas accessible to everyone. 3. The Journey to Professorship: Cordelia's path to becoming a professor was unconventional, filled with periods in and out of academia. Her journey is a testament to the power of perseverance and the importance of having a safety net. 4. Inherited Resources in Human Development: In her book "Testosterone Rex," Cordelia explores the complexities of the relationship between hormones and behavior. She emphasizes that we inherit not just genes and hormones, but also external resources like caregivers, peers, and cultural artifacts. 5. Closing Gender Gaps: Cordelia highlights the closing or reversing of gender gaps over time, attributing these changes to gendered environments and cultural influences rather than genetic factors. 6. The Importance of a Council of Advisers: Drawing from her experience, Cordelia suggests having an informal council of advisers or a "critical friend" to help prevent making unwise decisions. I hope these insights spark your curiosity and inspire you to listen to the full episode. Cordelia's wisdom and courage to challenge the status quo are truly inspiring. You can find Cordelia's books, "Delusions of Gender" and "Testosterone Rex," at reputable booksellers and online platforms. Remember, supporting authors by purchasing from legitimate sources is crucial. Stay tuned for more exciting episodes of Courage to Lead. Until then, keep learning and leading! Best, Allan Sicard
35. THE RESILIENCE PANEL

35. THE RESILIENCE PANEL

2023-10-1301:31:39

Hello there, I'm thrilled to share with you some exciting insights from our latest podcast episode of the Courage to Lead series. This time, we had an enlightening discussion on resilience with four distinguished leaders: Carlene York, Amy Brown, Mick Willing, and Peter Scott. The Resilience Factor: Our panelists shared their personal experiences, emphasising the importance of resilience in overcoming setbacks. Carlene and Mick, both having faced unexpected departures from their respective organisations, highlighted how resilience helped them bounce back and continue their journey. Support Systems: The panelists unanimously agreed on the significance of having a strong support system. Whether it's trusted mentors, friends, or family, these relationships can provide the necessary support during challenging times. Authentic Leadership: Amy stressed the importance of authenticity and culture in organisations. A culture where people feel comfortable being themselves and expressing their ideas is crucial for navigating challenges and seizing opportunities. The Power of Purpose: Peter pointed out that resilience is not just about overcoming adversity, but also about adapting and thriving during successful periods. He emphasised the importance of purpose in fostering resilience. Turning Challenges into Opportunities: Carlene shared her experience leading the State Emergency Services during crises like floods and the COVID-19 pandemic. She emphasised the importance of being positive and proactive, turning challenges into opportunities. The Importance of Self-Care: Peter reminded us that self-care is crucial for leaders. It enables them to make good decisions and effectively serve others. The Constant Value of Individuals: Amy encouraged listeners to remember their worth, regardless of their circumstances, and to look for the positive aspects even in challenging times. I'm incredibly grateful to our panel for their candidness and the dynamic discussion we had. I hope their stories inspire you as much as they inspired me. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation. Tune in to our latest podcast episode and let's continue to learn and grow together! Best, Alan
34. MICHELLE BOUNDY

34. MICHELLE BOUNDY

2023-10-0401:16:24

I'm thrilled to share with you the latest episode of our "Courage to Lead" series, where we had the pleasure of hosting Michelle Bundy, the inspiring leader behind the "She Inspires Me" movement and the "Tell Your Story" initiative. 1. The Power of Persistence: Michelle shared her first leadership experience, where she led a major wellbeing reform in the state government. Despite facing opposition and disciplinary action, she never gave up. Her initiatives like Wellness Wednesday and Fresh Fruit Friday impacted thousands of workers, a testament to her courage and determination. 2. The Human Side of Leadership: Michelle opened up about her personal struggles, reminding us that even the strongest leaders have their moments of vulnerability. She also shared her journey of resilience, from her son's tragic incident to her own battles with self-doubt. 3. The Unexpected Path: Michelle's journey into modelling and her return to it at the age of 52 is a fascinating story of seizing opportunities and breaking societal norms. It's a reminder that it's never too late to pursue your passions. 4. The Power of Kindness: Michelle's work with the Salvation Army and the Alison Baden Clay Foundation highlights her commitment to serving others. Her passion for supporting women and helping them move forward from difficult situations is truly inspiring. 5. The Birth of "She Inspires Me": Michelle's initiative, born out of a desire to celebrate women's contributions and achievements, has become a platform for sharing inspiring stories and building each other up. 6. Connect with Michelle: You can find Michelle on LinkedIn, her website, She Inspires Me Australia, and on social media platforms like Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. Don't forget to check out our co-hosted podcast, "She Has the Courage to Lead." 7. Living Life to the Fullest: Michelle's perspective on embracing aspirations, cutting off toxic relationships, and surrounding oneself with supportive people is a valuable lesson for us all. I hope Michelle's story inspires you as much as it did me. Remember, it's never too late to take charge of your life and create your own story. Until next time, Allan
33. FLEUR HEAZLEWOOD

33. FLEUR HEAZLEWOOD

2023-09-2201:32:59

Discover the Power of Resilience and Well-being in Leadership I'm thrilled to share with you the latest episode of the Courage to Lead Interview Series, where I had the pleasure of hosting Fleur Heazlewood, an award-winning author and founder of the Blueberry Institute. Fleur's journey is a testament to resilience and well-being in leadership. She shared her experiences as a young female leader in a male-dominated industry, facing adversity, bullying, and even manipulation. Yet, she stood her ground, advocating for herself and others, and setting a new standard for leadership. Here are some key takeaways from our conversation: Leadership and Well-being: Fleur's first true experience of leadership was during the global financial crisis. She made a bold decision to prioritise her employees' well-being over commercial requirements, proving that doing right by people is also right for business. The Importance of Psychological Safety: Fleur emphasised the need for a safe and supportive work environment. She believes that no one should be treated poorly because of differences or needing help. The Power of Resilience: Fleur's personal journey of resilience is inspiring. She faced burnout, recovered, and used her experiences to educate others about the importance of well-being in the workplace. Well-being as a Business Strategy: Fleur demonstrated that investing in well-being is also an investment in business performance. She shared a case study where a company saw significant improvements in engagement, reduced absenteeism, and safety incidents after implementing a well-being and resilience training program. The Role of Books: Fleur sees her books as an act of service, sharing the strategies and techniques she teaches in her programs. She prefers speaking and facilitating over writing, valuing the dialogue and interaction with people. I'm grateful for the opportunity to share Fleur's wisdom with you. Her story is a reminder that resilience and well-being are not just personal pursuits but essential elements of effective leadership. I encourage you to listen to the full episode and discover more about Fleur's inspiring journey. Until next time, keep leading with resilience and well-being.
32. AMY BROWN

32. AMY BROWN

2023-09-1401:33:52

In the latest episode of the Courage to Lead series, I had the pleasure of interviewing Amy Brown, a highly regarded leader with a diverse career spanning various fields, including homelessness. I've known Amy for a while and have always admired her leadership abilities. * Introduction of Amy Brown as a highly regarded leader * Amy's background and experiences as a leader * Amy's career journey and early career experiences * Amy's reflections on being a young woman in the workforce * Amy's experiences in managing public-private partnerships and privately financed initiatives * Amy's mentorship and the impact of mentors on her career * Amy's work at PwC and the projects she worked on * Amy's approach to peer relationships and networking * Amy's reflections on leadership, including acknowledging mistakes and learning from them * Amy's support system and giving back to others in leadership roles FAVOURITE QUOTES: "When we do push ourselves out of the comfort zone and into the courage zone, that's actually where the magic happens." "I think I'm always out of my comfort zone. It tends to be where I hang out." "Courage is the ability to keep moving forward even in times of setbacks and even when you feel alone."
31. EMELDA DAVIS

31. EMELDA DAVIS

2023-09-0101:42:49

In this podcast episode of the "Courage to Lead" interview series, I interview one of my favourite guests so far, a truly beautiful human being, Emelda Davis, a councillor on the City of Sydney Council who is deputy to Clover Moore Lord Mayor of Sydney in a myriad of important areas. We laugh and we cry and we are exposed to some of the best leadership wisdom on the program so far. We discuss Emelda's background as as a proud Australian South Sea Islander and survivor of trauma of the “Black-birding” trade that occurred in Australia history that not many Australians know anything about. We then discuss Emelda’s leadership experiences, and challenges she faces in her role. Emelda shares her heritage and reflects on the challenges of transitioning from grassroots community advocacy for the Australia South Sea Islanders to council work. We also discuss Imelda's experiences as an activist, her work in community engagement, her involvement in the film industry, her role as a single mother, and her advocacy for climate change and indigenous voices. Throughout the interview, Imelda emphasises the importance of inclusivity, kindness, and building strong relationships within communities. My Favourite Emelda quote is: "wherever I am in the world or working, I've always tried to provide a pathway for those that wouldn't necessarily have that opportunity because I know someone did that for me and that's my grounding in everything I do." At the end of the interview I highlight some further leadership wisdom shared by Emelda Work with the positive and step around the negative. It’s about listening, work with your agreed vision, respect the process and empower voices. We don’t have to like each other, you go home and I go home to separate houses but we do have to get on with it.
30. SCOTT CHAPMAN

30. SCOTT CHAPMAN

2023-08-2001:19:43

There is so much to say about Scott Chapman. To get the full bio go to https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-chapman-48804921/ To give you a hint. Scott is the CEO of the Royal Flying Doctors in Victoria and has held that position for 14 years. 3 weeks before this interview he was awarded the 2023 Melbourne Achiever Award Committee for Melbourne which is no small feat. One of the best adaptive leaders I have interviewed, to mould his organisation in a changing world, Towards the end of the interview he came out with this quote from his mum. I love it. "Good better best, never let it rest, until your good is better and your better is best, not perfect just best. Be the best you can be, not perfect."
This is one of my first interviews on The Courage to Lead Interview Series, and I must confess one of my favourites. I just learnt this week that the interview ended at 48 minutes with another 20 minutes to go. I have reedited the Interview so everyone gets to hear one of the best leaders I have ever met, tell his complete story. Please excuse the audio, I have remastered it as best I can but this was one of my first interviews where I was only just learning the best way to record what was said. Alex Greenwich MP, Independent Member for Sydney, is a wonderful human being. After 12 years in the New South Wales State Parliament as an Independent Member he has achieved some amazing outcomes. Alex has some incredible credentials. - the Co Chair behind the Marriage Equality Act which eventuated in the act being passed into Legislation. - A driving force behind the legalising of Abortion in NSW 3 years ago - A driving force behind Reproductive Health Care Reform - A driving force behind having Euthanasia legalised. This interview delves into how Alex was formed into the leader he is today. His parents encouraged discussions about anything at any time, sex workers, drug addicts, homelessness, nothing was off the table. His Grandmother, Jacqui, lived in America and was a loud and proud advocate against President George Bush’s Abortion Policies. Alex’s grandmother was his first exposure to My Body My Choice, I should control my own body, and set up his passion for what eventuated in legalising Abortion in NSW three years ago. Alex worked with his parents in their HR Recruiting Firm, Winning Attitudes, learning over 12 years, every day what motivated people around their lives in regards to dignity, purpose and salary. It was during his time with Winning Attitudes that Alex began his work as a Marriage Equality advocate at a time when no government would discuss the topic, Alex helped changed the landscape across high profile Australian Corporates that it was time to discuss Marriage Equality. Alex talks us through his wonderful relationship with his husband Victor, and you will be left with a smile on your face with the relationship they share, having fun in life’s most simplest moments. Alex then takes us to how he became a member of parliament. At at time when Clover Moore was the Mayor of Sydney and also the Member for Bligh/Sydney, the then Liberal Government changed the laws and said a member of parliament could not hold both positions. When this happened Alex contacted Clover asking what he could do as he felt his democratic vote had just been taken away by a political process. Clover asked Alex to work for her people, and then Clover’s people became Alex’s people. The bi election was brought on by the Liberal Party within 3 weeks of Clover Moore stepping down because of the new legislation. However Clover Moore backed Alex Greenwich to be her replacement and that endorsement rewrote history. In Alex’s words, “Now there are two of us.” Alex see’s his role as ensuring no one gets left behind, even those most challenged and disadvantaged in our community. On his office wall he has the picture of a homeless man, sitting with his dog on a Sydney street. Alex know the story of that man, “It’s who I work for” Alex was a lived experience candidate on the show Filthy Rich and Homeless, living on the streets of Sydney without support for 10 days. Alex describes this time as a lightbulb moment, anybody can become homeless, all it takes is some of life’s misfortunes to occur and homelessness is a reality. Alex views his role in parliament as a privilege but he is aware that politicians are human beings. They are flawed, they make mistakes and we change our minds. Forgiveness is important. Alex makes his business not to leave anyone behind. A final piece of advice from Alex for empowering future leaders - “Don’t be afraid.”
28. MELO CALARCO

28. MELO CALARCO

2023-08-0401:19:22

Melo Colarco is the Author of "Beating Burnout Finding Balance" A Mental health support coach, mindfulness and meditation expert across mental health facilities, the highest echelons of business, sporting and entertainment excellence arenas. There are so many gems in this interview but here are a couple of stand outs Humans need to be growing, learning, developing and challenging ourselves we if we are doing the opposite, we are shrinking and dying, loosing purpose and direction. “ Hibunto. “ is an African phrase: It means: "I exist because of the other people around me" "Serving others is a worthwhile goal" "Empower others so they can do better in the world." To do something for someone else and they don’t know you have done it for them is also a wonderful way to live your life. In Chinese the sign for Crisis is "Danger and Opportunity" Always look for the opportunity in any crisis. 3 main leadership tips if you want to pursue being a really effective leader: 1. Self awareness 2. Self regulation 3. Self care If you want to find out more about Melo, buy his book or book him for the multitude of skills he has you can find him at https://www.melocalarco.com
27. JOHN TREVILLIAN AM

27. JOHN TREVILLIAN AM

2023-07-2101:21:02

John Trevillian AM DIRECTOR Planning and Events for NSW GOVERNMENT (1999-2015) Some of the large jobs he coordinated at a Government level: The Sydney Harbour Bridge turf the deck The Olympics The Oprah Winfrey show at the Opera House. Indigenous Walk Across the Sydney Harbour Bridge Centenary Celebrations Trust and confidence in people’s abilities are crucial. 110% support not a competitive environment but a friendship environment where people can makes mistakes and still grow. Need a strong team with you that support each other and does not compete against each other. Enjoying yourself is a crucial part of the mix, no matter the situation or environment. Humour is a crucial part of JTs life and ingredients of success. Started World first - work experience for year 11 young girls, who were traditionally supposed to finish school early at Year 10. We got them jobs and senior jobs that needed education. In his mid 30s - 1980s. Take the good people with you - good people normally have time for other people. Good people are hard to find. Came from a humorous and generous family. Trying to big things in a small way. People power - fairness and generosity - with trust - there has to be bravery in the way people lead. Trust and honesty in leadership are crucial in order to achieve respect. Weekly meetings with the junior school and we could not make a negative comment in any of those meetings. Des Renford - important person in JTs life - helping people with disabilities. Had a big heart - loved helping people. Had the best sense of humour in Australia. “ I never learned to tumble turn.” That’s why he swam the English Channel so many times. Most important thing in interagency meetings: All we did was respect the meeting where government agencies come together. How important is that? Respected the meeting and the tools of the meeting. Minutes taken, got out in a couple of days. All actions progressed and results were respected and implemented. The Sydney Olympics were a success because we got the mechanics right. We provided information and why each agency’s job was important. Bicentenary celebrations put Australia on the map as an event capital. Be successful with what is front of you. Surround yourself with good people. Brave young leaders - their ability and strength of character. 2000-2010 Sydney had event after event at an international level. Sydney Harbour Bridge with grass all across the car deck. Put Sydney on the front page of the New York Times for the first ever. Trust across all the agencies that made it possible. We had the bridge open 30 minutes early - wouldn’t happen anywhere else in the world. Jeff Parmenter - Brisbane Olympics now but at the time he had just lost his wife to cancer. Quality of people were working with. That quality was replicated tho their own family. His daughter ended up in the Australian Netball team. Working with Good Leaders Worked in an environment of success not an environment of failure. Humour is a big part of JTs live When he left Education he turned up for his next job interview one day early because he was so keen. You get to hear JTs laugh when he tells this story. This is the laugh we were used to hearing almost daily. Most proud event The Olympic Games - Sydney had the right spirit Intellectually Disabled Games in the Asia Pacific Special Olympics - 17000 disabled kids came to Newcastle. Mentor to one Special Olympics competitor. Mentored her through her schooling and now as an employee. Working on creating an annual concert to celebrate and promote people with a disability with John Foreman at the ICCC in Sydney. 3 leadership tips: 1. Be themselves 2. Be joyous in what you are doing 3. Work with people with real abilities and add your qualities to the other people and do not try to distract from them.
Welcome back from to Part 2 of the Andrew Colvin Interview. In Part 2 we hear Andrew talk about - [ ] His Commissionership - [ ] His ongoing role in the Champions of Change organisation - [ ] His role in leading the National Bushfire Recovery Agency - the first of it kinds at national level in response to the 2019 Black Summer Fires As Commissioner he identified the AFP had a negative culture that was holding the organisation back from what it could be. So he took culture on at a hierarchical level with a radical transformational leadership approach. Andrew makes the assertion that you can never claim victory on culture-the inertia of an organisation will always try to bring culture back to where you started. Andrew makes the observation that police have 2 main traits. They hate the way things are and They hate change. Andrew sought to make change - Business as Usual as a leaders job is to do 3 things. Improve yourself Improve your people by giving them the support to continually improve Improve your organisation The content of Part 2 of Andrew Colvin is like no other interview. It really is a blueprint on how to achieve a better culture for any workplace. Andrew’s three areas of focus for leaders who want to do things better. 1. Find a way to have fun at work and if it is not fun look for another opportunity. 2. It doesn’t matter what level you are in an organisation you are a leader. You influence a better environment in where you are at. Over time your leadership style and skills will evolve. 3. Andrew is proud he didn’t take the easy path. He never accepted the status quo. Thank you Andrew Colvin.
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