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NAI Global Presents How's Biz. Gary Marsh interviews NAI Office leaders about the state of Commercial Real Estate in their local markets and what the future of CRE holds.
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This podcast episode features Jason Luckhardt, National Manager, with NAI Harcourts. We reached Mr. Luckhardt at his primary office in Brisbane, Australia. NAI Harcourts is the NAI Global affiliate in both Australia and New Zealand with well-over 20 offices combined that serve every primary metro region as well as the two countries’ regional and more-rural communities. Operated as a franchise model in both countries, NAI Harcourts provides advisory and brokerage services to commercial property occupiers, investors and developers in the core segments of industrial, office and retail real estate, while the Harcourts operation is one of the leading residential real estate service providers in Australia and New Zealand. The Australian economy is largely driven by natural resources (coal and others), mining, and food exports (beef, sheep and seafood including lobsters) while New Zealand’s economy is heavily agricultural, particularly with livestock. Perth, located on the West Coast of Australia (and some 2,044 air miles from Sydney, whereas San Francisco to New York is 2,566 air miles), is where the majority of the country’s mining exports (iron ore and gold) are generated. Consequentially, Perth is home to many of Australia’s wealthiest people. Both countries offer incredibly beautiful landscapes, beaches, mountains, and experience strong tourism. Their largest trading partners are China, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and increasingly, Vietnam. In recent years, there has been a significant influx of immigration to Australia and the country is dealing with housing shortages and processing new residents. Australia’s population is approximately 27 million while New Zealand’s is 6 million. Speaking with Luckhardt revealed some similarities to the U.S. economy, such as the accelerated shift to online retail – even though city center malls are thriving with entertainment-themed venues and there has been a resurgence in high-end clothing and accessories stores.Regarding industrial space, the most entertaining segment of the podcast was during the discussion of what’s driving industrial demand: mancaves. Yes, those!Australia remains an attractive international investment because of its stability and governance and is a sought-after country in which to do business, with Luckhardt noting that his office in Melbourne had recently completed some leasing transactions that were referred by Matt Swash and the team at NAI UK in London. He also noted that NAI Global will be hosting an Asia Pacific conference in Vietnam in the spring of 2025.
In this podcast episode, we spoke with Bryce Custer, SIOR, CCIM, a scientist by background and real estate investor that entered the brokerage business in 2009 and hung his license with NAI Spring in Canton, OH. Fast forward to the present, and Bryce still works in the Ohio market and is affiliated with NAI Spring there, yet also, he was just made Vice President of Energy Services with Pittsburgh-based NAI Burns Scalo to run his energy-focused, commercial real estate practice in West Virginia and a portion of Southern Pennsylvania. Bryce works in the energy-rich Marcellus and Utica shale oil fields -- an area known as the Ohio River Corridor. The region is blessed with rail and river transportation services, and a world-class energy infrastructure because of its history of coal production and steel-making. The geography and natural resources created the basis for what has always been a manufacturing hub of the U.S., yet is fast-becoming the biggest energy-producing pocket of the U.S., in part because it is a one-day drive to 70% of the U.S. population. Listen to Custer describe his use of technical skills and knowledge of chemistry, electrical generation, power, polymers, plastics etc., and even SMRs, or Small Modular (Nuclear) Reactors, and how these elements are driving demand for land and real estate facilities unlike ever before. His comments reinforce the notion that business likes certainty, and Custer is looking forward to both the upcoming presidential election to be over, and for 2025. Backed by the commitment and resources of NAI Burns Scalo, he thinks it will be a very good year. 
In this episode of How’s Biz, we invited three professionals from different industry sectors to discuss the state of the office market, and more specifically, how the ongoing remote and hybrid workforces and practices have operated since the pandemic. The panel discussion offered tips on successfully managing in this new era, as well as Return-to-Office mandates and how all this impacts the office market across the U.S.The panelists were:Jim Scalo, CEO of NAI Burns Scalo, based in Pittsburgh. Just before the pandemic, in 2019, he published a book, Work Them to Life: Upgrade Your Office Space to Win the Talent War.Toni Navy is a Future of Work Keynote Speaker and Global Workforce Consultant. She helps companies overcome the challenges of leading a global, multi-generational and hybrid workforce.Mike Robbins is a Keynote Speaker and expert on teamwork, leadership and emotional intelligence. He’s an author and former professional baseball player.The panelists discussed the ever-so-present topic of when, if and how workers will come back to the office 5 days a week, and whether or not the way workforces are operating these days is here to stay, or a temporary moment in time and just an extended consequence of the pandemic.  From a real estate management perspective, Scalo favors more of an all-hands approach to workforce management yet does so with carrots rather than sticks. One of his current mantras include the 3 Ms. According to Scalo, what matters most to employees is Money, Movement, and Meaning.He also used the acronym NOW: New Office Wins, to describe the current success of building owners and managers with new and newer office assets, as they have the most modern amenities and are most often in the best locations and hence, the most occupied. For example, while many cities are experiencing 20%+ vacancy rates, the top tier Class A buildings have single-digit vacancy rates.  All three panelists stressed the importance of building and maintaining corporate cultures among employees. They also talked about doing so in the current environment.Robbins, who has spoken at SIOR conferences and coached leaders at many companies, including real estate firms, addressed the top things corporate leaders should be focusing their people management on. He also spoke about the theme from one of his books—Bring Your Whole Self to Work. The book covers the responsibility of employees to be their most authentic selves to enhance their performances and the workplace as a whole.  Navy, who like Robbins, has worked with many Fortune 500 companies in HR, operations and leadership training roles, touched on some of the issues impacting recruiting, and the war for talent. One of the most pressing issues for management today is to prepare their staffs for the influx of Gen Z workers and an increasingly multi-cultural workforce. As The Greatest Generation, Baby Boomers and even Millennials start to retire, the workplace of the future is going to look much different than the past. 
At the beginning of summer, 2024, NAI Global’s How’s Biz podcast connected with Bjarne Bauer, SIOR, Managing Partner at NAI Sofia Group Shanghai based in Shanghai, China. As anyone that has met or spoken with Bjarne would attest – at an NAI Convention or SIOR conference – he is always upbeat, informed, and articulate, as he was on this podcast. Listen and you will begin to understand why. When asked about how he navigates between Chinese commercial real estate owners and investors, local and state government agencies, with clients, occupiers, and business representatives from all over the world (particularly the U.S. and Europe), he used the word ‘humility’ to describe where that process begins. And goes from there.China’s economy was strictly locked down during the pandemic but has now fully reopened. Its residential real estate industry has made international news for the collapse and bankruptcy by some of the country’s biggest developers, but in the scheme of things, the 20% correction in pricing is small when one considers that housing experienced double-digit price increases for a decade leading up to the over-supply. The office market, like most international cities, is over-supplied, with vacancy rates running around 20% in its largest cities. Overall, however, the Chinese economy is still growing, albeit not at the same pace as before, and commercial real estate investment is quite active. With geopolitical tension in recent years, some capital did leave the country, but that is changing. Driven by efficiency and the fundamentals of capitalism, Western economies are investing in China again. Listeners will also hear about how business-friendly the Chinese government is. Foremost, with all the attention given to global supply chains since the onset of the pandemic, Bjarne’s insights as to how goods are actually produced, assembled, packaged and ultimately distributed between countries and consumers may come as a surprise, as there is a significant amount of nuance to manufacturing and supply chain management. Find out more about Bjarne Bauer and NAI Sofia Group Shanghai here.
Dan Leahy is a founding Partner and Executive Vice President of NAI Hiffman.  He is also the founding member of NAI Global Logistics (which has evolved into the NAI Global Industrial Council). He is annually one of the most successful industrial and logistics advisors/brokers to serve the Chicago marketplace. He is also one of NAI Global’s Top 10 Producers for 2023, where he finds himself in familiar territory, as Dan is consistently one of the highest performers throughout the platform. The secrets to his success are partially revealed by his methodologies and work/life balance. Foremost, he is a thinker, planner, and goes about his business methodically. That’s not to imply he operates robotically. In fact, he has been able to successfully balance family, friends, work and play.  His warm (and family man) personality comes through when he talks about the softer skills associated with successful brokerage work, especially his emphasis as an advisor first, real estate transaction manager second. Understand his background a bit, and none of this comes as a surprise. He was a standout golfer as a teenager and still plays competitively today, for starters. Anyone that knows the game of golf and what it takes to be good at it knows that there is a lot of thought connected to each swing of the club, as well as before one addresses the ball and prepares to strike it. Golf also requires a great deal of practice, and perhaps even more patience. Overcoming adversity, failure and rejection during and after a round of golf is a whole other matter! Yet his real differentiator was his career before he got into the commercial real estate business – a little more than 25 years ago now. Dan Leahy was a management consultant and corporate advisor on business strategy, technology and other key factors for companies and businesses to thrive, gain efficiencies and increase profitability. And as a young man he recognized that the road warrior life of leaving town on Sunday and returning Friday nights, week-after-week, was not the future he wanted. One day he “cold called” Dennis (Denny) Hiffman, the NAI Hiffman founder and Chairman Emeritus, for what Leahy thought would be a brief informational meeting that turned into a couple of hours and the unofficial launch of his new career. And the rest is history! Listen to the podcast for some great insights on how you can up your game as a professional in any industry, though especially commercial real estate.###Gary Marsh is a writer, marketing and public relations advisor with a 38-year career in commercial real estate that has included commission-based outside sales, journalism covering the commercial real estate industry for a business publication, corporate communications, and since 1998, principal of Marsh Marketing. He has provided public relations and writing services for NAI Global since 2016. 
With flexible office space making up 8% of occupancy in London – a number that is expected to surpass 10% fairly soon, James Horrocks, MRICS and the Senior Director of Global Occupier Services with NAI UK joined his new colleague, Alex Cooper, Senior Director of Flexible Offices with the firm, to talk about NAI UK’s new enterprise, CORE Working. Like the other business operations of NAI UK and COREP, CORE Working provides advisory services to companies seeking serviced offices – a distinction from traditional office space wherein most companies sign leases for 5-10 years and often face significant capital expenditure (CapEx) or fit out/tenant improvement costs prior to occupancy. Alex Cooper was recruited specifically to launch CORE Working just 6 weeks prior to the podcast recording. Cooper and Horrocks discussed the forces that led to the new business unit. Prior to a focused discussion on the new enterprise, Horrocks provided an overview of recent NAI UK Corporate Services work and talked about how well the firm’s integration with NAI Global has gone since joining over two years ago. Flex or co-working office demand has soared since the pandemic, with hybrid work patterns becoming part of the reason for greater occupancy of flex, or as Cooper says, ‘serviced’ office space. The U.S. parallel to the growth of flex demand is the current flight-to-quality trend, and strong preference for highly Class A space with a plethora of amenities. The same thing is happening in London with demand rising for prime space. Flex is really taking off, with Horrocks asserting that companies of all sizes must now consider flex space when choosing office occupancy. By comparison, flex space was previously considered an alternative, or temporary bridge to more permanent office-lease commitments. With CORE Working, NAI UK has positioned itself to be the UK’s leading provider of serviced office space and occupier requirements. Listen to the podcast to learn why.-How's Biz? is hosted by Gary Marsh, one of the foremost PR experts on commercial real estate in the U.S. Marsh has served dozens of businesses in real estate and hospitality in a variety of relationship-based media relations roles, advisory services, creative content development, networking and business development to generate new business and grow the top line of his clients’ companies.
Kevin Goeller (pronounced Go-Ler), CCIM, SIOR and Principal with NAI KLNB in Tysons VA, is one of NAI Global’s Top 10 Producers for 2023. He and his team have two areas of concentration. Positioned in the Office/Industrial division of their company, the entire team is scouring for new development sites and existing industrial developments as well as buildings. As land specialists, they divide and conquer their respective disciplines. A corner perfect for a new mixed-use development is pursued by one of the team, while an appropriate industrial development site gets the attention of Kevin or one of his colleagues. Their geography centers around the Washington, D.C. suburb and is located in Northern Virginia.However, some 20 years ago, Goeller began shifting his focus to the emerging niche industry of data center development, and now he is recognized as one of the foremost commercial real estate experts in the U.S. on data centers. He spearheads an effort to create and build what are frequently called data farms, or server farms, because data centers house hundreds, and sometimes thousands, of computer servers that run America’s technology. It is ironic because Goeller started out as a farmer, growing crops of food for human and animal consumption, in the farmlands and countryside near his current residence. This is where so many data centers now populate the terrain. We are at a critical juncture in the U.S., because there’s a lot to what’s going on right now with energy demand in this country. The 10-year run on data center development, expansion and ongoing demand for them is straining the power grid like never before. And now, the system is further complicated by the emergence of AI, and more demand on energy supplies.“Regarding power in America:  We are out. There is not one location in the U.S. that can deliver 50 MW immediately.”That’s a line in an email Goeller sent to NAI Global’s Industrial Council, when the group was following up on a discussion about data centers. This podcast delves into the growth areas of data centers, and much more. And it’s fascinating, particularly given the significance of the subject matter to our society. 
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Tony Machabee, CCIM, a Senior Director with NAI Alliance in Reno, NV, serves as the NAI Global Veterans Council Chairman. The Veterans Council is a recently established practice group of NAI Global (launched in late 2023) and is already comprised of some 30 or so men and women commercial real estate professionals that previously served in nearly every branch of the U.S. Armed Forces. Machabee had a distinguished, 30-year career with the United States Air Force (USAF), culminating as a Colonel, pilot, 152nd Operations Group Commander of the Nevada Air National Guard and the USAF Senior Director for FEMA Region 9. He also served as an advisor to Congress and National Guard Bureau that helped broaden the authority of the National Guard State Partnership Program and elevating the position of the Chief of the National Guard Bureau to a statutory member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Machabee also played a critical role in the institution of the Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System (MAFFS) program for the Nevada Air National Guard.Machabee’s work with the USAF National Security Emergency Preparedness directorate, its close coordination with the Federal Emergency Response Agency (FEMA), connected him to the commercial real estate industry in the arena of industrial and logistics requirements associated with disaster response. Along with his long-time friendship with a successful broker with NAI Alliance, Machabee turned to commercial real estate for his post-military service career. In this podcast, Machabee relays some of the transferable skills from the military to CRE and also the formation of the Veterans Council.
Lauren Larson is with NAI Affinity in Ft. Collins, CO. At the beginning of 2024, she was promoted to Managing Broker for the Northern Colorado-based office, where she is responsible for her own book of business (she’s a teammate with company CEO Ryan Schaefer and President Jake Hallauer, CCIM) and also manages the other brokers at NAI Affinity, providing guidance so that each of them achieves their respective goals as measured by key performance indicators (KPIs) and principally, revenue. She started her career at the company while still a sophomore in college, and has been on an accelerated path in commercial real estate ever since. Last year Lauren was asked to join NAI’s national self-storage investment sales group based out of NAI Horizon in Phoenix, AZ, and more recently was added to NAI Global’s National Logistics Team, based in NAI James E. Hanson’s Teterboro, NJ, office. Learn more about Lauren in this podcast.
Amber Brandhagen is a Principal and Chief Operating Officer of NAI Global Wireless (Wireless), an NAI Global member and one of several specialized commercial real estate service providers operating under the NAI Global umbrella of offices. Her business represents property owners and landlords to establish cellular tower infrastructure that is subsequently leased to cell phone carriers throughout the U.S. In fact, approximately 80% of their business comes from NAI Global offices in the continental U.S. and broker referrals, making Wireless one of the most opportunistic fee-sharing and revenue generating members with NAI Global. Amber also chairs the NAI Global Women’s Alliance, and recently traveled to the CREW Convention in Atlanta (with 1,700 attendees!) and also to the Commercial Real Estate Influencers Summit (CREi) meeting in Orlando, where guest speaker Rod Santomassimo, CCIM (and founder of The Massimo Group) wowed the audience on his take of AI’s impact on the CRE industry.Like most of us in the CRE industry, her career path to commercial real estate was indirect. She grew up in a small gold mining town in Nevada and moved to Southern California immediately upon graduating from high school, and eventually met her mentor and business partner, commercial real estate broker and veteran David Moore. At the time, he was with NAI Capital and based in its Inland Empire office. In her 30s and the mother of two young children, Amber is a fine example of the Next Generation of leadership at NAI Global. She can be reached at 760.902.9592.
Gisella Haidar and her family emigrated from Bueno Aires, Argentina to the U.S. when she was 16—originally to a small town near Dallas, TX, where she finished high school, and then went on to Texas Christian University in nearby Ft. Worth. She earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Economics with a concentration in Mathematics. In 2012, she was hired by C-III Realty Services in Dallas as an analyst. It was a challenging period for the commercial real estate industry and C-III Realty Services was active at the time with the disposition of CMBS loans that had defaulted. It was also around the time that C-III Capital Partners acquired NAI Global, and shortly afterward, the two entities merged its Capital Markets sales divisions. In 2015, Gisella was transferred to New York to work with the NAI Global Capital Markets team, and she still does, reporting to Arthur Milston and Alex Waddey. As a team, the group specializes in asset and portfolio investment sales and dispositions, Gisella is instrumental in preparing financial modeling and underwriting commercial properties before the group takes them to market. Like many in the CRE industry, Gisella had not planned for a career in the business, yet shortly after starting with C-III Realty Services, instantly loved what she did. Her learning curve, however, has been quite intentional. During the podcast, she named some of her mentors as well as some of the groups she has gone through mentorship programs with, including ULI (Urban Land Institute and ICSC (formerly International Council of Shopping Centers). Gisella recently earned a Master’s Degree in Real Estate Development from New York University, and most of her courses were taught by Adjunct Professors, where she learned real-world lessons on the development process. Her formal education, she said during the podcast, can only enhance her performance with NAI Global.  Reach Gisella Haidar:  +1 (212) 705 5146Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com 
Chase Miller of NAI Robert Lynn is a Dallas native and his industrial brokerage practice (with teammates, Robert Blankinship and Anna Pierce) focuses on the Brookhollow/Trinity submarket, which is the closest infill submarket to downtown Dallas. Not surprisingly, the submarket has a significant amount of showroom warehouses that want close proximity to customers, as well redevelopment projects – particularly with product from the late 50’s to early 60’s. In just four years in commercial real estate, Chase has become one of the company’s top producers and also became a partner at the firm – the youngest ever for NAI Robert Lynn. Chase played four years of college hoops at a D1 school – Middle Tennessee State University, and transferred his collegiate college career straight into commercial real estate, and namely, the competitive spirit. Even though his father is historically one of the top producing industrial real estate brokers in Dallas and at NAI Robert Lynn (as well as NAI Global), Chase didn’t think about a career in commercial real estate until he was mid-way through college. He did, however, get a great deal of inspiration from his father growing up, even when it was “passive” learning such as going to a Texas Ranger game and hearing his dad take a cell call from a client on the way to games. Chase lists his partner Robert Blankinship as well as a number of clients that have served as a mentor thus far in his career. He talked about the state of the industrial market in Dallas/Ft. Worth and how it is beginning to ‘normalize’ after years of being over-heated.  Reach Chase Miller:  (214) 256-7100Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com 
On the first day of February in 2023, Bhagyesha Darji left her job as an assistant controller at NAI Chase Commercial in Huntsville, Alabama, to become a commercial real estate sales professional. Three days later she was on an airplane bound for Las Vegas to attend the annual NAI Global convention. Her journey as a rookie broker had begun. This podcast was recording just five months after she started working in brokerage. She has already closed a restaurant lease and an industrial sale, and is leaning toward focusing her career in investment sales. Yet as a tertiary market (the population of Huntsville is about 216,000 and the metro area is comprised of 500,000 people), Bhagyesha is likely to serve clients in a variety of property types and assets. In fact, she is helping a client with a search to acquire an operating hotel anywhere in the U.S. and priced between $4M and $7M.Douglas McCullough, VP and CCIM at NAI Chase Commercial, is her mentor. Some of the time she works on a team with 3 or 4 other agents yet otherwise is building her own book of business. Huntsville -- rich in engineering talent, is a rapidly growing community, and Bhagyesha, who grew up there, is one of its biggest fans. Two of the major corporate draws in the area are Redstone Arsenal and Cummings Research Park. Redstone Arsenal is a United States Army post and a census-designated place adjacent to Huntsville in Madison County. The Arsenal is a garrison for various tenants across the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and NASA.Cummings Research Park, located primarily in the city of Huntsville, is the second largest research park in the United States and the fourth largest in the world. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, IBM, Lockheed, Northrop, and the University of Alabama in Huntsville all soon located within the park, all of which grew tremendously.A pair of the better-known tenants with a presence in Huntsville are Blue Origin, the rocket manufacturing company owned by Jeff Bezos, and SpaceX, the rocket company owned by Elon Musk.To accelerate her learning curve in brokerage, Bhagyesha started a Rookie’s ‘club’ as part of the North Alabama Commercial Realtors Association, or NALCOM, and helps organize regular and informal lunch-and-learns with other commercial real estate agents with fewer than five years in the business. One of her short-term goals is to close a really big deal and buy a pearl-white Corvette.Bhagyesha Darji earned a B.S. in Accounting from The University of Alabama in Birmingham, and is a licensed broker in Alabama. After college she worked in public (tax) accounting and financial planning, and some of the executives at NAI Chase Commercial were her clients. She was recruited in March 2021 to work in the company’s financial administration department. Reach Bhagyesha Darji: (256) 529 1995Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
Gael Zongazo started his commercial brokerage career in early 2021 by joining NAI Elliott’s Retail Advisors Northwest team, led by George McCoubray and teammates Nick Stanton and Emmy Johnston. Based in Portland, Zongazo focuses his retail brokerage practice in the region’s suburbs (the metro market has some 2.6 million residents), preferring to represent tenants, though he does some landlord work as well. He uses a product called Retail Lease Trac to identify tenants in the market for nationwide expansion space, but he also uses good old fashion cold calling by walking into local retail stores and asking to talk to the management or proprietors. Among other projects, he is currently working on a big assignment with an NAI colleague out of Charlotte, North Carolina, on behalf of the Veterans Administration.Formerly of the San Francisco Bay Area, his brother-in-law is NAI Elliott President Jordan Elliott, who had recruited Zongazo for a number of years, and finally got him to relocate to the Portland area. Zongazo’s entrepreneurial background is perfectly suited for retail brokerage, having founded Bay Area Fit, a business supplying fitness classes for corporations and multifamily residential properties that is now an online fitness-training tool. That business ended up providing him with passive income that allowed him to transition into commissioned-based brokerage services. An accountant by training, he also worked in residential real estate in California. Reach Gael Zongazo: (503) 972-5403Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
“Everything I did leading up to starting in commercial real estate prepared me for this moment.”This podcast shifted gears to host one of NAI Global’s rising stars and an excellent representation of the Next Generation, Marcus Daniels, a Vice President with NAI Michael based in Prince George County, Maryland. A region that borders the eastern portion of Washington, D.C., Daniels works in a market with about 1 million people.  It’s a diverse marketplace of property types, and Daniels is involved with a variety of commercial real estate assets, including assorted business properties, churches, commercial office and retail, and most recently, land that is being marketed for industrial developers and occupiers.  Hyper focused on developing and nurturing relationships, Daniels’ practice has evolved after six years as a broker with NAI Michael to the point that many of his clients have become personal friends.  Somewhat ironically – given that he specializes in investment sales during a period of rapidly rising interest rates and high inflation, his phone has been ringing off the hook the past year. Business and property owners want more information in the current market, and Daniels recognizes his opportunity to be a resource to investors.  His early career work was in public policy fields and community development; it was a background perfectly suited for commercial real estate and the potential to create sustainable communities. Accordingly, he approaches his work in CRE as one big eco-system and recognizes the role and importance of all stakeholders associated with the process. He serves small business owners, non-profits, entrepreneurs and increasingly leverages the NAI Global platform to work across state lines.  Now in his early 30s and an astute networker, Daniels is a proud Morehouse College graduate, and he embraces and epitomizes the iconic HBCU’s slogan: “We are a brotherhood of men on a mission to lead lives of consequence.”Click here to listen to the half-hour podcast with Marcus Daniels.  Reach Marcus Daniels: +1 301 918 2954Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com 
Arie Salomon, CCIM, SIOR, is (once again) one of NAI Global’s Top 10 Producers for 2022. A highly accomplished industrial broker, Arie is also one of the top producers in the Pacific Northwest as recognized by the Society of Industrial and Office Realtors. He leads a five-person team with the core group having been together for over two decades! Arie’s teammates are: Jeff Forsberg (28 years), Patty Bell (26 years), Connor Powell and Bret Matysik, the last two of which were added to the team within the past few years. They divide their duties and use each other’s strengths to complement each other. Originally from Israel, Arie served as an officer and tank commander in the Israeli Defense Forces after finishing high school. He attributes much of his success to the discipline learned and the merit-based promotional structure of the Israeli army that he experienced as a young man.For brokerage houses and managers interested in hiring and training new brokers, listen to how Arie and Jeff started Connor and Bret out to get their careers launched. By comparison, when Arie started commercial real estate brokerage 32 years ago, he received a $600 draw for the first few months and then was straight commission. Here are some of the highlights of the NAI How’s Biz Podcast with Arie Salomon. Arie first moved to Washington State to attend college in 1984 at the University of Washington in Seattle, and at first wanted to be an architect, yet decided on a business degree instead. He started his career with Norris, Beggs & Simpson in 1990.Fast forward to the more recent past, Arie and Jeff’s team client list reads like a Who’s Who of Fortune 500 Companies and some of the most recognized developer names in the industry: Boeing Realty Corp., DHL Worldwide Express, Formica Corp., Steelcase, Invesco, Prologis, Industrial Property Trust, Lowe’s, RREEF, and LBA Realty.Listen to how the team acquired those accounts and largely managed to retain them through the years.NAI Puget Sound Properties is one of the top exporters of referral transactions within the NAI Global platform, and has recently completed deals in Dallas, Portland, Atlanta, Chicago, North Virginia and Detroit – all with other NAI Offices and professionals. Arie loves the business—the competition, the knowledge, client service and particularly creativity. One of his team’s biggest deals last year exemplified his creative approach to brokerage, as well as his persistence, and by his own acknowledgement, the transactions (yes, plural) came about by a bit of luck. That part of his story is about 28 minutes into the podcast. It involved a 1.2-million-square-foot lease followed by a sale to an institution. A European football fan, Arie has attended World Cup Tournaments in more than one country, even seeing a ‘hat trick’ from the most recent World Cup hero, Argentina’s Lionel Messi.  Reach Arie Salomon: +1 (425) 586 5636Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
On excellent service: “Before you get something, be prepared to give something.” A high performing broker of many years and Executive Vice President with the Industrial Services Group at NAI Hiffman in Chicago, Kelly Disser III was one of NAI Global’s Top Producers in 2022. Early in the year, the How’s Biz, Gary Marsh, host spoke with Kelly about his career path and history, some of the work he and his team have been doing and what are some of the contributing factors to his success. Here’s a brief recap of the podcast.  The Fort Wayne, IN-native has a near-perfect background to thrive in the commercial real estate industry – especially brokerage, because he is both competitive and collaborative in nature and is a self-described people pleaser, meaning he likes to make people happy, and that often translates in business as helping his clients make money. A high school standout in (American) football (QB), after interviewing with a number of Big 10 schools (+ the Naval Academy and Air Force Academy) Kelly opted to attend and play for Butler University, which is in Indianapolis. However, because he wanted to be a starter on the Butler team and just before the 2-a-day workouts ended, Kelly switched to cornerback – a decision he said in the podcast was a youthful exhibit of impatience, and something he learned from that has been helpful in his career development. For his last two seasons of collegiate football, he switched to wide receiver on the offensive side.  During college, Kelly did a two-year internship with Indy-based Duke Realty Corporation, which hired him out of college in 2002. With Duke, he was responsible for financial and operational management of a 22 million square foot portfolio. After four years (professionally) with Duke, Kelly was recruited to Dallas, TX, where he worked for Tabani Group, where he helped facilitate the growth of the company’s existing real estate portfolio through investments and new development. In 2008 he moved to Chicago – in part lured by his fiancé and later wife, Audra, who he credits as being a big part of his success early and currently with his career. In Chicago, he started in brokerage with NAI Hiffman – just as the Great Financial Crisis began and without any contacts in the Windy City. By 2015, he was a shareholder of NAI Hiffman and today, runs point on a team of four people – two other brokers and a senior administrator.  Kelly’s team divides duties but in some instances, overlaps on work when the deals demand it. His strengths are with business development and some of the underwriting as part of the overall development process. The team typically is involved in two or three new development deals per year. However, the team balances its activity and revenue by working closely with tenants about the half the time and landlord/developers for the other half of their transaction volume. They do a lot of work with Prologis and Link Logistics yet also work with middle-market investment companies that often do not have directors of real estate, so Kelly and his team effectively become an outsourced real estate department.  Kelly described two of the team’s bigger deals in 2022, including a 450,000-square-foot, build-to-suit on behalf of Atlantic Packaging and another project (which he called equally complex) – a 150,000-square-foot deal, for a 100-year-old company, Clyde’s Donuts. One of the takeaways on those start-to-finish projects (site selection and entitlement process through construction completion) is how much service and the amount of detail associated with information gathering with each transaction and how that information goes into analysis and decision making by Kelly’s team and their clients.  The team also had just closed on a land sale that was indicative of the current market in Chicago. A client/developer has been doing a land assemblage project and started purchasing property a couple years ago when land was being sold at $15 a foot. During the interim land values shot up to $40 a foot and the last parcel – 7 acres, closed at $32 per-square-foot in December. When the project started there was a target audience of 40 developers and by the time it got closer there were only six or seven developers that had the capital and ability to close and build the project.  Currently, there is approximately 37 million square feet of industrial property under development in the Chicago market that is expected to finish this year. Kelly said on the podcast that he thinks there will be fewer starts on speculative industrial projects in 2023, and largely associated with the higher cost of money and change in Cap Rates in the investment markets as well as the threat of an economic slowdown.  Kelly described his commitment to service as a large contributor to his success, and he recognizes that without excellent service a broker can become nothing more than a commodity. For someone new in the brokerage business, there’s a really strong message to be heard in Kelly’s comments on service. Reach Kelly Disser III: +1 630 317 0721Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
Todd Hubbard, SIOR is a player-coach with NAI Robert Lynn Fort Worth office and one of NAI Global’s Top Producers in 2021. He opened the Fort Worth office for NAI Robert Lynn several years ago. The company now has over 100 employees and 65 agents between Dallas and Fort Worth, the latter of which has 16 agents. NAI Robert Lynn’s core businesses include office, industrial, retail and capital markets brokerage services, as well as property management. The offices are led by George Dutter, CEO, and player-coaches Mark Miller and Todd Hubbard.  There is also a group of about a dozen principals that participate in company guidance, strategy, initiatives and management. NAI Robert Lynn is one of the biggest names in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market and consistently a top 3 company in the market based on transaction volume. A Brownwood, TX native, Todd earned an MBA from Texas Tech and went back home after college and started his career in accounting, yet left for an opportunity with Robert Lynn Company to launch his career in commercial real estate.Todd’s main practice is in industrial real estate and runs a team of four. Some of the deals the team did in 2022 (over 240 transactions!) included working with an investor that acquired an older industrial park comprised of crane-served metal buildings with 980,000 square feet and upgrading the condition of the buildings and park overall, which led to getting 8 lease transactions completed in the year and over 500,000 square feet. He mentioned some other deals his team closed last year as well as a reference to the off-market work that they do. For listeners unfamiliar with the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, both markets have become more institutional. While there has been some blending of the two communities, they each have their own unique qualities. Fort Worth itself has grown substantially and is now the 12th largest city in the U.S. One of the biggest reasons the DFW Metroplex has grown in recent years can be attributed to the collaboration of the economic development groups from Dallas and Forth Worth, compared with earlier years when the two municipalities competed with each other for business. Todd spoke of his SIOR designation and how it really is a prerequisite to success in industrial and office brokers.When asked why he is a successful broker and business man, Todd gave an excellent and extended answer that is very much worth a listen. He started by talking about mindset and managing one’s emotions, then shifted to responsiveness, listening more than talking, having systems in place and other elements, such as being a professional at all times. Being prepared, being nice and loving what you do are the keys to success, as simple as it sounds. In terms of developing careers in commercial real estate, Todd would tell a high school senior or college student that commercial real estate is not for everyone, and the most important thing for young people is to find something they love. He encouraged people to get internships and talk with as many people as possible before fully committing to a career in CRE. For 2023, his company is setting goals and doesn’t expect the year to be as good as the last few. However, Dallas-Ft. Worth is a little more insulated compared with other U.S. markets because of ongoing population growth and business expansion in the Longhorn State. Todd also mentioned that DFW’s office market is relatively strong and more and more companies are bringing employees back to the office, which should strengthen that sector of their business. They do expect some challenges in the capital markets but are optimistic based on the strength of owner-user sales. Todd reminded us that even in a down market there are tons of opportunities and you just have to find them.  In early January, the announcement was made that NAI Robert Lynn has taken over the Houston territory in 2023 and backfilled a vacated spot in the NAI Global platform.As a company, the NAI Robert Lynn leadership team is very excited to expand into America’s 4th largest city. He expects a seamless integration between the three offices and the move will be beneficial to their corporate clients, tenants and investor relationships. A group of seven principals have been tasked with identifying and recruiting a leadership team for the Houston office. NAI Robert Lynn does business a little differently than many brokerages, by assigning brokers and brokerage teams to specific submarkets within a wider marketplace. Cultural integration is one of the cornerstones of its business. They plan to take that same territorial, market-knowledge approach to the new operation in Houston. Reach Todd Hubbard: 817-501-2012Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
“We exceed the level of professionalism that I had with my former organization (the largest real estate company in the world).”Doug Sharpe is one of NAI Global’s Top Producing Brokers in 2022. Based in Silicon Valley and specializing in tenant representation and corporate services with NAI NorCal, Doug has leveraged his 30-year career and relationships to become one of the leading experts on real estate requirements for Electric Vehicle (EV) car companies and more recently, a rocket (ship) manufacturing company. He is also working with Vietnamese-based VinFast with site selection and location requirements associated with the company’s first batch of Electric Vehicles that were recently shipped to the U.S.Sharpe said during the podcast that he is actively seeking retail and automotive showroom space in numerous U.S. cities and encouraged NAI Global brokers that work in these areas to contact him. There are numerous challenges to getting EV car dealerships and manufacturing plants opened. In the first instance, many cities and municipalities require that cars be sold through dealerships, whereas many of the EV car makers’ business models are manufacturer-to-consumer direct sales. As for manufacturing, auto manufacturing plants require significant power supplies and not all states or regions have sufficient energy and power capabilities to supply both industry and residential energy requirements. Labor, proximity to ports and rail services are other issues associated with opening any type of manufacturing facility, Sharpe said on the podcast. Sharpe has sent numerous referrals to NAI Offices in many markets, including a number of deals in South Korea, Hawaii, Alaska. In Florida, Sharpe and NAI colleagues helped facilitate several transactions including logistics, flex industrial and retail space. He has also coordinated some of the work he does with NAI Global’s Elite Corporate Services team. Remarkably – and after work with Grubb & Ellis, CBRE and NAI BT (before the latter merged into one of the national companies) about 10 years ago Doug was caught in the cross-hairs of the Grubb merger with Newmark Knight Frank and in his own words, “needed a life boat.” He called a friend with NAI Global and that has led to his status as one of the company’s top producers! Sharpe was recently in New York and in a meeting with iconic investor Sam Zell, the latter shared his opinion about what to expect in the CRE industry in the next 24 months. Listen to the podcast to hear those thoughts as well as other insights from Doug Sharpe. His story and journey to success will resonate with hundreds of professionals throughout the NAI Global platform.  Reach Doug Sharpe: 408-740-7224Find out more about NAI Global: www.naiglobal.com
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