Yet Another Value Podcast

Host Andrew Walker welcomes back Bill Chen for a wide-ranging discussion centered on the world of REITs. Though the conversation was intended to focus on one stock, the duo instead explores why REITs have underperformed in recent years, capital cycle dynamics, governance issues, and where Bill sees current opportunities. They dive deep into the theoretical and practical aspects of REIT investing, dissect recent REIT liquidations, and discuss portfolio construction and leverage in event-driven opportunities.______________________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Intro and sponsor message[00:02:20] Launching into REIT investing theory[00:04:38] Cap rates vs. real estate value[00:08:03] Rent growth, leverage, and returns[00:11:06] Why REITs have lagged recently[00:15:51] Capital cycle theory in real estate[00:17:55] Governance issues with public REITs[00:22:23] Share buybacks vs. reinvestment[00:25:18] Griffin case study and alternatives[00:30:35] Takeouts and market inefficiencies[00:33:37] Where Bill sees dislocation now[00:36:11] Using leverage in liquidations[00:40:14] REIT liquidation downside surprises[00:42:00] Asset quality and bid dynamics[00:45:25] Legal risks in revised estimates[00:47:11] Unique REIT liquidation wave[00:49:31] Navigating current REIT opportunities[00:50:01] Wrap-up and next time teaseLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Andrew Walker returns solo for his January 2026 ramblings and discusses the current market euphoria, responses to his “weird markets” thesis, the allure and danger of stepping outside one’s investing edge, how power laws are often misunderstood, and an evolution in his views on societal vices. From geopolitical risk to sports betting regulation, Andrew digs into ideas that may shape investor mindsets in the months ahead.[00:00:00] January 2026 intro and disclaimers[00:01:15] Face-ripping rally and market euphoria[00:04:54] Greenland, tariffs, and taco trade risk[00:08:50] Weird markets thesis listener pushback[00:13:02] Misuse of AI in generating alpha[00:16:29] Slap-worthy portfolio diversification mistakes[00:20:28] Misreading power laws in indexes[00:22:52] Shifting stance on cannabis and gambling[00:25:42] Tail risk in vices and regulationLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Jeremy Raper returns for a deep-dive postmortem on his high-conviction investment in aviation leasing company AVAP. From sourcing the deal via Twitter, to acquiring a ~20% block at well below book value, to negotiating with key stakeholders and navigating operational hurdles, Jeremy recounts the challenges and victories of shareholder activism in a niche sector. This case study sheds light on the realities of unlocking value in the public markets and the grind behind executing a thesis, even when the setup looks ideal on paper._____________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Andrew introduces Jeremy and episode topic[00:02:11] Investment is a postmortem of AVAP[00:04:01] Jeremy's background in aviation leasing[00:09:41] Block purchase strategy and rationale[00:12:01] Purchase price details and thesis[00:13:45] Value from being largest shareholder[00:15:01] Behind-the-scenes work and learning[00:17:27] Complexity of executing activist strategies[00:23:46] Monetizing intangibles and aircraft rights[00:25:01] Shareholder base and interest after stake[00:28:24] Exiting AVAP and evaluating outcome[00:30:02] Final thoughts on learning from postmortemsLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerThis podcast was sponsored by https://www.youtube.com/@UClqFz8aiVfSV2PviLcQrIbA Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

YAVP hall of famer Jeremy Raper returns to cover a wide range of topics—from Jeremy’s decision to shut down his investment blog to his perspective on underappreciated international markets like Japan and the UK. The episode culminates with an in-depth discussion on Jeremy’s high-stakes activist campaign at HUM Group, a non-bank Australian lender. Jeremy explains why he's pushing for a board overhaul and outlines governance red flags he believes shareholders shouldn't ignore.__________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:02:24] Jeremy reflects on his writing journey[00:05:21] Why Jeremy stopped his pay blog[00:08:58] Loss of inbound connections[00:12:29] State of Japanese event market[00:17:55] Deep value still thrives in Japan[00:19:09] Concerns with UK governance culture[00:25:49] Overview of HUM Group situation[00:30:29] Rejecting undervalued chairman offer[00:36:53] AGM governance failure issues[00:42:43] Call to vote and next stepsLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Adam Buckstein from ASB partners explores Stride Inc. (formerly K12), the largest provider of virtual public schools in the U.S. Adam dives deep into the company's business model, regulatory framework, and competitive position, as well as the company's unique funding structure, post-COVID enrollment growth, market misconceptions, and the complex compliance challenges it faces. The conversation also dives into Stride’s outcomes, criticisms, AI’s future role in education, and the stock’s dramatic drop following an LMS implementation misstep. _____________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:03:30] Stride’s virtual school structure[00:05:34] Funding model vs. for-profit colleges[00:07:16] Why parents choose virtual schools[00:09:19] Learning coach growth post-COVID[00:10:16] Payment structure for Stride[00:12:22] Outcome debates and challenges[00:17:38] Competitive landscape with Pearson[00:21:07] Stickiness of Stride contracts[00:23:22] Curriculum costs and customization[00:25:10] Economic sensitivity discussion[00:28:43] Student acquisition and marketing[00:32:44] October enrollment drop explained[00:35:42] LMS transition and enrollment loss[00:38:22] New Mexico lawsuit context[00:43:26] Outcome data interpretation issues[00:45:27] AI impact on Stride’s model[00:47:17] Financials and cash flow strength[00:51:10] Market overreaction to issues[00:54:09] Risks if outcomes lag in-person[00:56:33] Teachers union and school choiceLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

In this solo episode of Yet Another Value Podcast, host Andrew Walker introduces and unpacks his evolving investment concept: the Theory of Weird Markets. Andrew uses analogies from sports, AI, and Rubik’s Cube competitions to argue that traditional strategies in investing are increasingly obsolete. Instead, he suggests that in an age dominated by quant funds, AI, and machine learning, alpha lies at the edges—in unique, weird, or "N of 1" investment opportunities. This episode is part rough-draft, part invitation, as Andrew seeks listener feedback to refine the theory that will underpin much of his investing outlook for 2026. ____________________________________________________[00:00:00] Introduction and sponsor mention[00:02:02] Overview of episode structure[00:03:08] Theory of Weird Markets explained[00:05:17] Stock market as ultimate competition[00:09:09] Sports performance evolution examples[00:10:00] Rubik’s Cube as improvement analogy[00:13:11] Incentives in Rubik’s vs. investing[00:15:09] Finance history proves competition[00:17:30] Counterintuitive strategies dominate at scale[00:18:42] AI and chess: new strategy insights[00:20:00] AI poker strategy looks irrational[00:21:16] Humans must embrace “weird” edge[00:22:56] AI fails with unexpected variables[00:23:26] Power demand as under-modeled opportunity[00:24:35] Spinoffs and unique events as alpha[00:25:28] Warner Bros. Discovery case study[00:26:26] Management incentives and market edges[00:27:10] Writer’s block and theory reflection[00:28:21] Call for feedback and discussionLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Jon Boyar of Boyar Research for an (almost) annual discussion on the “Forgotten 40” — a curated list of 40 overlooked, value-oriented stocks. Jon outlines major 2025 themes including SMID caps and financials, before diving into deep valuations and sale potential for the Atlanta Braves, plus long-term positioning of Uber in an autonomous future. They also touch on media exposure, structural incentives, and the potential for corporate activism to unlock value in overlooked names.__________________________________________________[00:00:00] Intro to podcast and guest[00:02:53] History and aim of Forgotten 40[00:04:14] Turnover and name selection for 2025[00:05:13] Key 2025 themes: SMID & financials[00:06:42] Financials overweight rationale explained[00:08:07] Braves ownership, real estate, and thesis[00:10:59] Tax code change and sale incentive[00:12:09] Valuation math for Atlanta Braves[00:15:13] Media rights and sale timing risk[00:18:00] Malone incentives and sale complications[00:22:27] MLB work stoppage risk and reward[00:25:50] Baseball trends and geographic pull[00:26:15] MSGS ownership, family dynamics[00:29:53] Generational control and liquidity questions[00:30:54] Mark Cuban sale as precedent[00:33:36] Media names: fewer included this year[00:35:11] Uber thesis: misunderstood and evolving[00:37:25] AV risk vs strategic opportunity[00:39:03] Valuation vs zero-risk scenario[00:41:01] Eats vs Dash vs Instacart[00:41:56] Consumer pushback and price sensitivity[00:45:50] Waymo or Tesla acquisition logic[00:49:17] Bonus pick: UniFirst & Cintas pursuit[00:52:05] Activism, family dynamics, and valuation[00:53:11] Wrap-up and links to Forgotten 40Links:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

After a long hiatus, one of the people's most popular guests returns. Randy Baron ventures across the pond to talk about Victoria PLC. Victoria has run into hard times, driven by a bunch of debt and a vicious cyclical downturn, but Randy sees some light at the end of the tunnel and goes into all the ways the company can survive the downturn and the huge potential upside for the common stock if he's right.___________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:01:59] Reintroducing guest Randy Barron[00:02:43] Company overview: Victoria PLC[00:05:16] Stock down 95%, what happened[00:09:58] Audit issue worsens perception[00:11:58] UK flooring market fragmentation[00:15:23] Headlam distress affects Victoria[00:16:40] Business story vs. distressed debt[00:19:44] Victoria's debt breakdown[00:21:04] Coke preferred equity explained[00:25:54] Coke takeover rules in UK[00:28:16] Preferred overhang and resolution[00:30:22] Stock impact from deal structure[00:33:02] Coke debt buyout possibility[00:34:07] Cyclical vs. structural downturn[00:36:36] Housing slowdown impacts demand[00:37:32] 2028 bonds trade at heavy discount[00:41:48] Asset sales to pay down debt[00:43:01] Jeff Wilding's role and strategy[00:47:28] Chairman’s capital allocation record[00:48:01] Assessing market misjudgment[00:50:19] UK market investment case[00:51:46] UK stamp tax impact[00:52:19] Making UK more investible[00:54:38] Macro vs. valuation gap in UK[00:55:16] Downside risk and cash flowLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Judd Arnold from Lake Cornelia Capital joins for a wide ranging discussion of inflection investing, $TOI's unique oncology model, and tons of stuff on risk management and portfolio construction.See Lake Cornelia's Substack here: https://lakecornelia.substack.com/___________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast intro and guest announcement[00:02:41] Judd on becoming a father[00:03:40] Judd discusses launching Substack[00:06:30] Complexity versus simplicity in investing[00:07:52] Liquidity and investor interest matter[00:11:06] Inflection investing over valuation focus[00:15:59] Sector and story versus fundamentals[00:19:55] TOI scalability and market potential[00:25:26] TOI business model and economics[00:31:32] Comparisons with other healthcare models[00:39:31] Consulting impact on investment process[00:44:21] Sizing up at inflection points[00:50:48] Risk profiles in portfolio strategy[00:53:20] M&A strategy and market perceptions[00:57:35] Netflix synergies and investor worries[01:01:45] Warner Bros bidding strategy discussionLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Host Andrew Walker delivers his monthly random ramblings for December 2025, reflecting on a decade of "professional public-market investing". Andrew shares a developing thesis on why markets are becoming increasingly strange, drawing parallels to evolution in sports, chess, and technology. He examines how efficiency, quant strategies, leverage, and speculative behavior have reshaped market dynamics. Andrew also walks through several investing beliefs he’s changed his mind on over the past ten years, including valuation metrics, buybacks, real estate, technical analysis, and holding periods. He closes by reflecting on lessons learned from podcast guests, risk-taking, arrogance, and the role of luck versus skill in generating outsized returns.______________________________________________________[00:00:00] Episode introduction[00:02:19] Monthly solo rambling format[00:04:14] Ten-year investing reflection[00:04:59] Markets growing increasingly strange[00:05:20] Sports and strategy analogy[00:06:45] Market efficiency reaching extremes[00:07:34] Weird situations driving returns[00:09:38] Changing minds over decade[00:10:31] Pure valuation metrics questioned[00:11:36] Buybacks losing importance[00:13:39] Hidden real estate disappointments[00:15:13] Technical analysis partial acceptance[00:16:19] Rethinking long-term holding[00:18:25] Three-year reevaluation rule[00:19:31] Risk management maturation[00:22:12] Podcast shaping investor thinking[00:24:14] Luck versus skill debate[00:26:31] Media deal commentary critique[00:28:45] Looking ahead next decade[00:29:38] Holiday wishes and closingLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Christian Olesen of Olesen Value Funds discusses the opportunities in UK homebuilders. The discussion centers on why the UK equity market remains deeply out of favor and how this pessimism has created compelling value in residential developers. Christian outlines the cyclical dynamics driving depressed demand, explains why Bellway stands out among peers, and explores balance sheet strength, land valuation, and downside protection. The conversation also addresses macro concerns around the UK economy, housing affordability, planning regulations, and management incentives. __________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Episode and guest introduction[00:03:26] UK market deeply discounted[00:05:13] Cyclical demand collapse explained[00:08:20] Bellway valuation framework[00:11:47] UK macro risk debate[00:15:09] Domestic investor pessimism[00:17:37] Quantitative versus qualitative thesis[00:21:15] Land write-down risk discussion[00:26:58] Bellway versus peers[00:30:41] Management incentives concerns[00:32:43] Capital allocation changes[00:38:53] American investor influence[00:41:08] Alternatives within UK market[00:45:23] Planning reform tailwinds[00:46:58] Supply constraints implications[00:49:35] Risk-reward summaryLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Hugo Navarro of Undervalued and Undercovered discusses NCR Atlas (NATL), a company operating at the intersection of legacy cash infrastructure and modern outsourcing economics. The conversation centers on whether ATMs represent a declining business or a misunderstood opportunity, unpacking NCR Atlas’s valuation, free cash flow profile, and competitive positioning within a duopoly market. Hugo outlines the company’s ATM-as-a-service strategy, highlighting scale advantages, incremental margins, and incentives for banks to outsource servicing. See Hugo's NATL write up here: https://smallcaptreasures.substack.com/p/a-127-fcf-yielding-duopoly-growing?utm_source=publication-search___________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:04:01] NCR Atlas business overview[00:05:27] Why valuation appears cheap[00:07:05] Cash usage decline debate[00:12:55] ATM-as-a-service thesis[00:16:54] ATM replacement cycle explained[00:19:15] Industry scale and servicing[00:20:56] Why banks outsource ATMs[00:24:07] Incremental margin economics[00:26:37] Long-term ATM demand risks[00:35:51] Declining industry outsourcing logic[00:38:34] Free cash flow drivers[00:41:11] Share gains from banks[00:47:36] Accounting and governance concerns[00:53:22] Diebold competitive comparison[00:56:04] Tariffs and guidance outlook[00:57:33] Interest rate sensitivityLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

A wide-ranging conversation with Lead Edge Capital's Evan Skorpen talking about applying a concentrated, long-term strategy to growth tech investing. Key topics include capital allocation, executive incentives, and investing in "air pockets."[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:02:59] Lead Edge strategy overview[00:07:16] AI’s impact on software[00:13:32] How CEOs react to markets[00:24:29] Investor days and messaging[00:30:40] Remitly’s capital allocation shift[00:36:09] Importance of long-term KPIs[00:44:07] Aligning shareholder and board goals[00:46:37] Incentives and externalities discussed[00:51:17] M&A risk versus growth[00:57:49] Lead Edge’s unique investing edge[01:01:53] AI risk to software moatsLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

David Thomas, author of The Fairfax Way (amazon link: https://amzn.to/4adQ7JS), comes on the podcast for a wide-ranging podcast on Fairfax, including the company's origins, macro wins, missteps in insurance, and what the future looks like for Fairfax as Prem approaches his 80s.__________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Andrew returns with David Thomas[00:02:31] David’s background in business journalism[00:06:25] Fairfax’s long-term investment returns[00:08:16] Evolution of investment and insurance strategy[00:13:01] Fairfax’s stock picking and equity style[00:16:39] Inflation themes in stock selection[00:20:32] BlackBerry investment strategy and challenges[00:24:14] Macro success: shorting housing and tech[00:29:20] 2010–2016 bearish misstep reflection[00:35:12] Politics influence on macro decisions[00:36:56] Prem’s current macro outlook[00:40:55] Discussion of Fairfax valuation[00:41:34] Book value and buyback logic[00:44:28] Overview of the short seller campaign[00:49:04] Perspective on Fairfax's hedge fund lawsuit[00:51:14] Succession planning at Fairfax[00:53:44] Stability of all business segments[00:57:45] 15% target: still realistic?Links:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Host Andrew Walker delivers his November ramblings with four key themes. He kicks things off with a story about craps in Vegas to illustrate how early wins in investing can falsely reinforce flawed strategies. Andrew also explores the mental traps of buying stocks he initially passed on, offers cautious commentary on shorting the so-called "AI bubble," and reflects on why trusting management projections and NAV estimates often ends in disappointment. With a new baby on the way, Andrew signs off with personal updates and an open invitation for listeners to reach out and discuss these topics further._________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast intro and disclaimer[00:02:05] Wins lure into false security[00:12:45] Passed stocks drop, then buy[00:20:00] Shorting AI bubble discussed[00:26:20] Trusting management and NAV[00:28:40] Final thoughts and baby updateLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

On the heels of sending an open letter to the Golden Entertainment's (GDEN; disclosure: long) board, host Andrew Walker dives deeper into Golden's take private deal and why he believes it transfers ~$300m of value from minority shareholders to insiders.Open letter to GDEN board: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/an-open-letter-to-the-golden-entertainment___________________________________________________________[00:00:02] Intro to special episode[00:03:26] Comparison to Louvre heist[00:04:20] Smoking guns and IR site change[00:07:35] Sale leaseback structure details[00:09:15] Valuation analysis and critique[00:13:30] Everbay letter and valuation math[00:16:45] Management buyout vs. fair value[00:19:00] Critique of go-shop process[00:21:10] Regulatory hurdles for go-shop[00:23:40] Call for fair deal structure[00:24:50] Closing thoughts and disclaimerLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Chadd Garcia joins the five timers club and talks about his investment thesis for WaterBridge (WBI). WaterBridge is a recent IPO that manages water from oil drilling, largely in the Permian Basin. Chadd's spent a lot of time on oil services and infrastructure, and he breaks down how this investment relates to prior investments in LandBridge, Texas Pacific, and Secure. He also talks about the opportunity for growth and pricing power at WaterBridge.__________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast intro and Chad returns[00:02:24] WaterBridge’s core operations explained[00:04:41] Pipelines and disposal network details[00:06:03] Missed waste parallels in analysis[00:10:52] Valuation setup and contract pricing[00:13:04] 2025 EBITDA forecast discussed[00:14:45] Scalability from current infrastructure[00:15:37] Infrastructure ROICs and economics[00:17:33] Land ownership and strategic value[00:19:05] WaterBridge vs. LandBridge relationship[00:22:25] Why Devon partners with WaterBridge[00:27:35] Sponsor structure and conflict resolution[00:29:30] Regulatory risk and permitting update[00:33:39] Permian basin long-term outlook[00:35:10] Increasing water cuts impact volumes[00:36:41] Oil price sensitivity and volume trends[00:38:03] Organic growth via MVC contracts[00:39:11] Maintenance capex benchmarking[00:41:40] Capital allocation and future returns[00:42:31] Waste comps and multiple discussion[00:45:49] Terminal value and ROIC comparisons[00:47:57] Key risks: spills and short reports[00:49:12] Environmental downside vs. oil spills[00:51:25] Short reports and perceived conflicts[00:52:21] Why WaterBridge and LandBridge are separate[00:53:08] Investor day importance and growth[00:54:10] Chad’s visibility helps spread thesis[00:56:54] Housing workers for Texas data center boomLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Andrei Stetsenko from Gymkhana Partners explores the investment case for Indian holdcos in general and Maharashtra Scooters in particular. Andrei outlines why he isn't just looking for a discount to NAV; he talks about how he breaks down the underlying NAV and incentives of the key players when assessing an Indian holdco, and how he believes the control of the Bajaj Group can create long term value.Gymkhana Partners website: www.gymkhanapartners.comGymkhana's Q3 letter: https://www.gymkhanapartners.com/investor-letters/gymkhana-partners-q3-2025-quarterly-letterPost on financialization of Indian savings: https://www.gymkhanapartners.com/dispatches/the-equitization-of-indian-savingsDoug's Alphasense webinar: ______________________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:02:57] Indian holdcos and Bajaj group[00:05:47] Maharashtra Scooter NAV breakdown[00:06:45] Growth prospects in Bajaj firms[00:09:03] Insurance and lending discipline[00:12:45] Risks of investing abroad[00:15:25] India research and diligence[00:17:03] India-dedicated fund strategy[00:19:08] India’s economic transformation[00:22:20] Attractive Indian holdcos overview[00:25:36] Holdco incentive and structure[00:28:50] SEBI reforms and catalysts[00:29:41] Parallels with Japan’s reforms[00:32:58] Professionalization and buyback signs[00:33:46] Shareholder alignment and liquidity[00:36:48] Family dynamics and governance[00:39:23] NAV reliability and fundamentals[00:42:03] Buybacks, dividends, and hurdles[00:43:59] Governance: India vs US[00:47:06] Potential unlock mechanisms[00:49:56] Past performance and future growth[00:52:33] Closing thoughts and blog postsLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.comSee our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Doug O’Loughlin of Fabricated Knowledge and SemiAnalysis returns to the podcast in to dive into all things AI, Power, and Corporate Governance. On the AI side, they discuss where we are in the cycle, if AI is a bubble, and what will drive the next leg of growth. On the corporate governance side, they discuss using signals like off-cycle PSU grants to reflexive incentive structures to find investments, as well as diving into some topical examples. (PS- Doug’s last appearance was podcast #166 on AppLovin $APP, which doubles as the best performing pitch in YAVP history).LinksDoug's AppLovin $APP podcast appearanceDoug's Webinar with AlphaSenseFabricatated Knowledge: ____________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast intro and Doug’s background[00:02:36] AI sector partying vs. value sadness[00:04:06] AI’s capital cycle and bubble setup[00:07:04] Oracle’s shift to debt-fueled capex[00:09:45] Why capital intensity changes multiples[00:11:48] TPU vs. Nvidia: a real challenger[00:13:07] Google’s evolving TPU go-to-market[00:16:02] AI scaling walls and RL progress[00:18:24] Reinforcement learning and Dota AI[00:20:15] Token economics and GPU monetization[00:22:02] OpenAI, profitability, and token resale[00:24:00] AI’s deflationary impact and services[00:26:51] Revisiting the power bottleneck thesis[00:27:44] Power grid constraints and worker shortages[00:31:33] Industrials benefiting from AI buildout[00:32:22] Generalist vs. specialist investor gaps[00:33:47] Specialist traps in relative valuation[00:36:36] Doug’s obsession with board behavior[00:38:19] Do boards game investors with PSUs?[00:41:12] Reflexive incentives at Broadcom example[00:42:17] Mimification and pump incentives at Opendoor[00:44:46] Performance incentives vs. job requirements[00:46:19] Biotech boards failing shareholder alignment[00:46:42] PSU timing around Target Hospitality’s drop[00:52:09] ICE contracts and bed shortage opportunity[00:56:54] Housing workers for Texas data center boomLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

In this month’s episode of Yet Another Value Podcast, host Andrew Walker reflects on key investing themes from October 2025. He probes Warren Buffett’s late-stage performance, introducing a concept called “risk riding” and considers the unseen risks that may have shaped Buffett’s recent success. Andrew also critiques excessive investor relations spending, explores a tweet on the underappreciated value of averaging up, and questions the mindset behind stocks being “cheaper today than yesterday.”_____________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Intro, Buffett, risk riding[00:02:45] Returns vs risk over time[00:06:30] Buffett aging, investment impact[00:12:30] Investor relations overspending[00:16:55] Gifts, wasteful IR practices[00:21:20] Tweet on averaging up[00:24:00] Cheaper today vs yesterday[00:25:10] Personal updateLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer