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Welcome to Beyond the Vow! Beyond the Vow is hosted by Nick and Janelle Lavender and focuses on religious and marital topics. We delve into the ups and downs, the twists and turns, the victories, the struggles, and everything that a couple may encounter as they journey through life and faith together. Habits will be tested, boundaries will be stretched, views will be analyzed, and compromises have to be made. All this and MORE as we go "Beyond the Vow!" You can find us on Facebook by simply searching for "Beyond the Vow".
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In this 42nd episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the problem of Narcissists who are in positions of leadership within the church. Immense damage can be done by these individuals leading to the abuse of the congregation as well as the destruction of the church in some cases. Can we identify these individuals, what makes them so prevalent in the church and what should we do about them?
In this 39th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine some of the thought processes behind the ban on wedding rings within the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM). The ring has been a point of contention. We examine a book by Dr. Dale Yocum, "On Pleasing the Heavenly Bridegroom," and its influence on some of the thinking behind the stand taken on rings within the CHM. Our goal with this episode is not to force a view on anyone but to provide and highlight information that we have found, as well as some of the teachings from the early church fathers and other historical writings on the subject. We also dive into scripture to see what the Bible says on the topic. We hope you enjoy this episode!
In this 38th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle talk about some of the subjects being taught within the public school system, including ideas concerning Transgender identity, as well as other LGBTQ ideas even being taught in some kindergartens. We look at what the Bible says about these topics and how these issues led up to the flood in Genesis.
In this 37th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss an article written by Pastor Peter Jones and his theory that Conservative women may not necessarily be living as God intended them to live. He presents the idea that they can be deceptive by presenting a false image of humility and submission to the public, but at home, in private, they are actually the opposite, and he thinks this can both stunt the masculinity of their boys as they grow and their husbands.
In this 36th episode of "Beyond the Vow," Nick and Janelle discuss the "woke" culture and its war on history and the reversal of roles. We also discuss the importance of taking a stand with regards to issues outside and within the church.
In this 35th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss Artificial Intelligence, and its impact on education, the church, and the music industry. We also discuss recently discovered evidence supporting the biblical account of the Red Sea crossing in Exodus. We hope you can join us!
In this 34th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how the lack of gratitude can affect friendships, marriages, and even our spiritual walk with God.
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine Deuteronomy 22:5. This passage is commonly referred to by those in the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM) as the foundation for modesty standards in the CHM. We dive into this text to examine who it was written for, when, and why it was written.
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the dangers of religious isolation within the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM), the Dylan Mulvaney controversy, a new guitar, our crazy dogs, and more!
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how worship in the early church compares to the modern day as well as some really strange incidents that have taken place in recent services, all under the umbrella of "worship." Are these true expressions of the movement of the Holy Spirit, or is it manipulation and, in some situations, a spirit that is not of God? We also discuss nicks new "hairstyle", Sweetwater, etc. We hope you enjoy it!
In this 30th episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss how our responses serve as a way of teaching our kids and others, how to react to situations in work, marriage, the church, and life in general. What if we find ourselves in a certain place, but wish for something else? Do we panic? Do we get angry? Do we find a solution? Do we allow ourselves to be defeated? We discuss this and more!
In this 29th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle give an update on their fertility struggles and Janelle discusses her recent "awkward" procedure. We also discuss "Baby boxes".
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss an update concerning their fertility, relaxing and enjoying the journey both spiritually and with fertility, and the Silicon Valley Bank collapse.
In this 27th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss 12 tips for dealing with negative people, as well as an update on their fertility struggles.
In this 26th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss their struggles with fertility, Janelle's love for junk journaling, the Asbury revival, and more. Life is full of ups and down's but through it all, God is able to get us through!
In this 25th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the importance of having boundries within marriage with a focus on John Wesley, Perry Stone, and others. We must make sure we never sacrifice our family on the altar of ministry.
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine Bethel Church and the Word of Faith Movement or as its also known, "The New Apostolic Reformation". We examine the affiliation that Bethel Church has with the Word of Faith Movement and how the Word of Faith Movement was founded. We also discuss some of the music that Bethel produces. If the music from Bethel is "Holy" and "Doctrinally sound" then should we listen to it even if Bethel is not?
In this 23rd episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "faith builders" which are events that strengthen our faith in God. Nick discusses a few of these events from his own past as well as how God has helped him overcome some negative experiences.
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "Heart talks to Girls" a book written by Julia Shelhamer around the 1930's. This book has played a part in providing an idea of what an early understanding of sex for girls was like within the conservative holiness movement (CHM) and the lasting influence that this book and others like it, have had to this day.
In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle dig a bit deeper into some of the claims that E. E. Shelhamer made in his book, "Heart Talks to Boys" (which we covered in our last episode). Along the way we discuss his claim concerning 100,000 boys being sent to the insane asylum annually, as well as some of the documented early claims for why you could legitimately be sent to the insane asylum. We also look at some of the early treatments for patients within the asylums.
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