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Don't Shoot The Messenger
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Caroline Wilson and Corrie Perkin are best friends who share their unique take on life. Nothing is off limits. Just don't shoot the messenger.
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SIX QUICK QUESTIONS
Corrie to Caro: What was the most ridiculous media ban of the summer
Caro to Corrie: What was one of your unexpected late-night happy moments this summer
Corrie to Caro: What humiliating experience had you in fits of laughter over the summer
Caro to Corrie: What was this summer’s car drama
Corrie to Caro: What annual age-old problem did you finally solve this summer - what to do with leftover ham!
RECIPE:
2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
1 garlic clove, thinly sliced or grated
100g or so leftover ham, shredded
200g cherry tomatoes, left whole Salt
Large handful rocket leaves
1 tablespoon butter
Zest of 1 lemon, plus juice of ½ (about 50ml)
3 tablespoons grated Parmigiano
Reggiano, plus extra to serve 200g favourite long pasta
Place a large frying pan over a medium heat. Add the olive oil and ham and cook for a few minutes, or until the ham starts to caramelise. Add the garlic and toss for 30 seconds. Add the cherry tomatoes and ¼ cup (60ml) water.
Season lightly with salt, being mindful that the ham can be quite salty. Cook, covered, for about 10 minutes, until the tomatoes are just soft and starting to release their juice. Meanwhile, bring a large saucepan of water to a lively boil and season until it's as salty as the sea. Add the pasta and cook until al dente.
Add the rocket, butter, lemon zest and lemon juice to your sauce.
Once the pasta is cooked, use tongs to fling it into the pan and give everything a good toss.
Add a splash of pasta cooking water if needed to loosen things up, along with the Parmigiano Reggiano. Toss again, then serve immediately with extra cheese.
Caro to Corrie: Which band did you rediscover this summer
The Cocktail Cabinet: With Myles Thomson of Prince Winestore. This week: Summer Whites picks
And a shoutout to this week’s
tasting – which is supporting Vic wines after the fires
San Moro Fiano Salento 2024
Schloss Lieser Feinherb Riesling 2023
www.princewinestore.com.au 177
Bank Street, South Melb & Hansard Street, Zetland NSW & David Jones
Food Hall, Castlereigh St Sydney
BSF brought to us by Red Energy.
Over Summer we read, watched and cooked…
BOOK:
Caro: Less by Andrew Sean Green
Corrie: Heart, The Lover by Lily King
SCREEN:
Caro: Hamnet
Corrie: The Family Stone
FOOD:
Caro: Beef Rendang by Recipe Tin Eats
https://www.recipetineats.com/beef-rendang/
Ingredients
Spice Paste
• 12 dried chilies, rehydrated in boiling water, or 12 large fresh (Note 1a)
• 1 small onion, finely chopped (Note 1b)
• 5 cloves garlic, minced
• 3 lemongrass stalks, white part only, sliced (Note 2)
• 1 1/2 tbsp fresh galangal, finely chopped (Note 3)
• 1 1/2 tbsp fresh ginger, minced
• 2 tbsp oil (vegetable, canola or peanut oil)
Curry
• 2 lb/ 1 kg chuck steak, or other slow cooking beef, cut into 4cm / 1.6″ cubes (Note 4)
• 1 tbsp oil (vegetable, peanut, canola)
• 1 cinnamon stick
• 1/4 tsp clove powder
• 3 star anise
• 1/2 tsp cardamon powder
• 1 lemongrass stick, bottom half of the stick only and smashed (Note 5)
• 400ml / 14 oz coconut milk (1 standard can)
• 2 tsp tamarind puree / paste, or tamarind pulp soaked in 1 tbsp of hot water, seeds removed (Note 6)
• 4 large kaffir lime leaves (or 6 small) , very finely sliced (Note 7)
• 1/3 cup desiccated coconut (finely shredded coconut)
• 1 tbsp brown sugar or grated palm sugar
• 1 1/2 tsp salt
Instructions
1. Place Spice Paste ingredients in a small food processor and whizz until fine. NOTE: If using dried chilli and you know your food processor is not that powerful, chop the chilli first.
2. Heat 1 tbsp oil in a large heavy based pot over high heat. Add half the beef and brown, then remove onto plate. Repeat with remaining beef.
3. Lower heat to medium low. Add Spice Paste and cook for 2 – 3 minutes until the wetness has reduced and the spice paste darkens (don’t breathe in too much, the chilli will make you cough!).
4. Add remaining Curry ingredients and beef. Stir to combine.
5. Bring to simmer, then immediately turn down the heat to low or medium low so the sauce is bubbling very gently.
6. Put the lid on the pot and leave it to simmer for 1 hr 15 minutes.
7. Remove lid and check the beef to see how tender it is. You don’t want it to be “fall apart at a touch” at this stage, but it should be quite tender. If it is fall apart already, remove the beef from the pot before proceeding.
8. Turn up heat to medium and reduce sauce for 30 – 40 minutes, stirring every now and then at first, then frequently towards the end until the beef browns and the sauce reduces to a paste that coats the beef. (Note 9)
9. The beef should now be very tender, fall apart at a touch. If not, add a splash of water and keep cooking. Remove from heat and serve with plain or Restaurant Style Coconut Rice.
Corrie: Minted Pea and Toasted Almond Salsa Tartines by Donna Hay
Minted pea and toasted almond salsa tartines
Serves 4
1½ cups (360g) fresh ricotta
4 large slices bread of your choice, toasted Minted pea and toasted almond salsa 2½ cups (350g) frozen peas
½ cup (50g) toasted flaked almonds
¼ cup (14g) finely chopped mint leaves 2 teaspoons finely grated lemon rind
1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil sea salt and cracked black pepper
To serve
shiso leaves (optional), dried chilli flakes and lemon wedges
To make the minted pea and toasted almond salsa, cook the peas in a small saucepan of boiling water for 2-3 minutes or until tender. Drain and refresh under cold water, then drain well again.
Transfer to a large bowl and roughly mash. Add the almonds, mint, lemon rind and oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper and mix to combine.
Spread the ricotta over the bread. Top with the minted pea and toasted almond salsa, and the shiso leaves, if using. Sprinkle with chilli flakes and serve with a squeeze of lemon.
ON THIS SHOW
-Ups and downs of summer …
-Corrie’s thoughts on Adelaide Writers Festival drama
-Caro’s take on the footy news
-Myles is back with Summer Whites
-Recommendations from the summer – BSF
-Media bans, mother/son bonding, rediscovering old bands and more!
What Silly Season?
A Summer of big news stories. Nothing silly about any of that!
How do we feel about – and how did we process the stories from the summer.
What did Corrie make of the Adelaide Writers Festival controversy?
What did Caro make of the footy news over the summer?
The Cocktail Cabinet: With Myles Thomson of Prince Winestore. This week: Summer Whites picks
And a shoutout to this week’s tasting – which is supporting Vic wines after the fires
San Moro Fiano Salento 2024
Schloss Lieser Feinherb Riesling 2023
www.princewinestore.com.au 177 Bank Street, South Melb & Hansard Street, Zetland NSW & David Jones Food Hall, Castlereigh St Sydney
BSF brought to us by Red Energy.
Over Summer we read, watched and cooked…
BOOK:
Caro: Less by Andrew Sean Green
Corrie: Heart, The Lover by Lily King
SCREEN:
Caro: Hamnet
Corrie: The Family Stone
FOOD:
Caro: Beef Rendang by Recipe Tin Eats
https://www.recipetineats.com/beef-rendang/
Corrie: Minted Pea and Toasted Almond Salsa Tartines by Donna Hay
Minted pea and toasted almond salsa tartines
Serves 4
1½ cups (360g) fresh ricotta
4 large slices bread of your choice, toasted Minted pea and toasted almond salsa 2½ cups (350g) frozen peas
½ cup (50g) toasted flaked almonds
¼ cup (14g) finely chopped mint leaves 2 teaspoons finely grated lemon rind
1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil sea salt and cracked black pepper
To serve
shiso leaves (optional), dried chilli flakes and lemon wedges
To make the minted pea and toasted almond salsa, cook the peas in a small saucepan of boiling water for 2-3 minutes or until tender. Drain and refresh under cold water, then drain well again.
Transfer to a large bowl and roughly mash. Add the almonds, mint, lemon rind and oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper and mix to combine.
Spread the ricotta over the bread. Top with the minted pea and toasted almond salsa, and the shiso leaves, if using. Sprinkle with chilli flakes and serve with a squeeze of lemon.
SIX QUICK QUESTIONS
Corrie to Caro: What was the most ridiculous media ban of the summer
Caro to Corrie: What was one of your unexpected late-night happy moments this summer
Corrie to Caro: What humiliating experience had you in fits of laughter over the summer
Caro to Corrie: What was this summer’s car drama
Corrie to Caro: What annual age-old problem did you finally solve this summer - What to do with leftover ham! (full recipe on Six Quick Questions podcast episode)
Caro to Corrie: Which band did you rediscover this summer
Hear Myles Thomson from the Prince Wine Store discuss Irish drinks from Episode 347 in 2025.
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BOOK: CORRIE HAS A BOOK: Wild Dark Shore by Charlotte McConaghy
SCREEN: CARO HAS A SCREEN: All Her Fault
FOOD: CARO HAS A RECIPE: Home-cooked Pork Chops with Sage and Prosciutto
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BOOK:
Caro reviews The Friday Afternoon Club by Griffin Dunne
SCREEN:
Corrie reviews Fellow Travelers on Netflix
FOOD:
Lemon, Sicilian Olive and Jalapeno Spaghettini with Pecorino (from Delicious
magazine: the Italian Cookbook
Produce
• 1/2 bunch Flat-leaf parsley
• 4 Garlic cloves
• 2 Jalapenos
• 2 Lemons, zest and juice of large
Condiments
• 150 g Olive Pasta & grains
• 500 g Spaghettini Oils & vinegars
• 80 ml Olive oil
Dairy
• 80 g Pecorino
The Cocktail Cabinet: Myles discusses Sicilian wines
www.princewinestore.com.au
177 Bank Street, South Melb & Hansard Street, Zetland NSW & David Jones Food Hall, Castlereigh St Sydney
Benanti Etna Bianco 2024
Feudo Arancio Grillo 2023
Feudo Montoni Lagnusa Nero d'Avola 2022
The Cocktail Cabinet: With Myles Thomson of Prince Winestore. This week: wines from the Hunter Valley.
Caro reflects on her appearance on The Front Bar.
SPECIAL GUEST Shaynna Blaze, Founder of Voice of Change
https://shaynnablaze.com/about-shaynna/voice-of-change/
VOICE OF CHANGE – supported by Red Energy:
Voice of Change was founded to amplify the voices of victim-survivors of family violence, to champion meaningful education about – and action against – family violence, and to bring about prevention and change.
We chat with Shaynna about her role within the Voice of Change campaign, why she is so passionate about this issue, the importance of discussing domestic violence issues and to raise awareness particularly as we head towards Christmas.
And Shaynna also speaks to us about her role as Executive Producer of the film The Fort, made with her two kids and this spearheaded her co-founding the not-for-profit charity ‘Voice of Change Australia’ using the arts to create meaningful conversations from using survivor and victim’s stories to change the cultural attitudes that underpin family violence.
• Red Energy is proud to support Voice of Change (https://www.voiceofchangeau.org/)
• Voice of Change is a national non-profit organisation dedicated to ending domestic and family violence using arts to break down the barriers to empower storytelling, community education and collective action.
• Founded by Shaynna Blaze and backed by a team of changemakers, Voice of Change was born from a belief that stories can change attitudes, behaviours, and cultures — to drive national impact.
Myles Thomson's recommendations relations to 'oranges and lemons'.
PRINCE WINE STORE with Myles Thomson.
THIS WEEK: Oranges and Lemons
Departed Spirits Bloody Cello (500ml) 37%
Folle Envie 750ml
www.princewinestore.com.au 177 Bank Street, South Melb & Hansard Street, Zetland NSW & David Jones Food Hall, Castlereigh St Sydney
Hear Caro and Corrie's recommendations this time last year, after their summer of reading, watching and cooking!
The Cocktail Cabinet: Myles discusses Rieslings
www.princewinestore.com.au 177 Bank Street, South Melb & Hansard Street, Zetland NSW & David Jones Food Hall, Castlereigh St Sydney
Wittmann Estate Riesling 2023
Dr Loosen Dr L Dry Riesling 2024
Hear our interview with Troy Bramston, about the release of his book -
Gough Whitlam: The Vista of the New: the Definitive and Most Up-to-date Biography.
Recap one of the highlights of 2025, our Women In Sport live panel discussion, with ERIN PHILLIPS, TAYLA FRASER AND RANA HUSSEIN.
Join Corrie, Caro, Anna from the Op Shop and Rebecca Barnard for Six Quick Questions!
SIX QUICK QUESTIONS -
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Caro to Anna: What has been your festive or cultural highlight
Corrie to Beck: Real Tree/fake tree/no tree
Caro to Anna: Sister Julie starred on the Pod back in October- she is your Christmas Day host this year, what’s her theme?
Corrie to Beck: Complete this sentence: ‘The most stressful thing about Christmas Day is….”
Caro to Anna: What has been your personal Christmas hosting highlight
Corrie to Beck: What’s your favorite Christmas carol (and any chance of a sing-a-long?)
and Anna From The Op Shop, Anna Barry
OUR BEST FOR 2025
BOOK:
Beck: The Names by Florence Knapp
Anna: Our Evenings by Alan Hollinghurst
Caro: Tenderfoot by Toni Jordan
Corrie: What We Can Know by Ian McEwan
SCREEN:
Beck: Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix)
Anna: Season 3 Blue Lights (SBS On Demand)
Caro: One Battle After Another (cinemas)
Corrie: Mobland (Paramount)
FOOD: (FULL RECIPES ON FACEBOOK PAGE)
Beck: Marouloslata (Greek Lettuce Salad)
Anna: Lemon Pistachio Cake with Lemon Syrup
Caro: Agrodulce
Corrie: Coq au Vin from Sunday Life Magazine
St Kilda coach Ross Lyon and SEN commentator Dwayne Russell join Caro and Corrie for the live Christmas show special.
Ross Lyon discusses his coaching career, his two stints at the Saints and some topical footy discussion points. And Dwayne Russell has just written a fiction novel, which we were excited to chat to him about!
ON THIS EPISODE
- Live from the Continental Hotel, Sorrento
- Special guests – St Kilda coach Ross Lyon, SEN commentator, broadcaster and now author Dwayne Russell, Anna Barry, and Rebecca Barnard
We chat with Ross Lyon about his two stints at St Kilda, and what drew him back to the club for a second coaching stint.
Dwayne gives us his thoughts on AFL leadership, his role in the media, working with Caro over the years and of course, his debut novel ‘Killing For Sport’.
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Introducing Rebecca Barnard, musician, singer, songwriter and producer, and Anna From The Op Shop, Anna Barry
OUR BEST FOR 2025
BOOK:
Beck: The Names by Florence Knapp
Anna: Our Evenings by Alan Hollinghurst
Caro: Tenderfoot by Toni Jordan
Corrie: What We Can Know by Ian McEwan
SCREEN:
Beck: Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix)
Anna: Season 3 Blue Lights (SBS On Demand)
Caro: One Battle After Another (cinemas)
Corrie: Mobland (Paramount)
FOOD: (Best recipe)
Beck: Marouloslata (Greek Lettuce Salad)
Anna: Lemon Pistachio Cake with Lemon Syrup
Caro: Agrodulce
Corrie: Coq au Vin from Sunday Life Magazine
SIX QUICK QUESTIONS -
FOR RED ENERGY Red Energy. Moving home? Stress less and make the move to Red Energy. Call 131 806.
Caro to Anna: What has been your festive or cultural highlight
Corrie to Beck: Real Tree/fake tree/no tree
Caro to Anna: Sister Julie starred on the Pod back in October- she is your Christmas Day host this year, what’s her theme?
Corrie to Beck: Complete this sentence: ‘The most stressful thing about Christmas Day is….”
Caro to Anna: What has been your personal Christmas hosting highlight
Corrie to Beck: What’s your favorite Christmas carol (and any chance of a sing-a-long?)



Hey hey Caro & Corrie...love the pod. FYI Jennifer Ehle was born in North Carolina to an American mother actress & English author father, hence her fluency in both dialects. Happy Christmas kc
FYI North sea Connection is on SBS on demand not netflix. Thanks for the recommendation. Love the podcast. Ros
Hi Caro, Just caught Footy Classified. Must say I totally love that slight adjustment to your hair part....superbo! Kind regards Catherine Capes
love your work ladies
Love listening when I am walking