The RELEVANT Podcast

Worship leader Pat Barrett — known for "Good Good Father" and "Build My Life" — joins Cameron, Jesse and Emily to talk about his new live album 'Break Open,' why he sat on the title track for nearly a decade, and his late-in-life obsession with surfing (including an upcoming trip to Kelly Slater's Surf Ranch). He also gets honest about how his thinking on songwriting vs. worship leading has shifted, because of course we ask awkward questions.Also, Emily brings RELEVANT Buzz fresh from South by Southwest, where she sat in on a panel with Vince Gilligan — creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul — who said he thinks he owes the world something better than anti-heroes. Plus: High Point University's Cinderella March Madness run, and the faith story behind Chase Johnston's #99 jersey that everyone's been talking about.And to close it out — Pat helps the crew run the Sweet 16 mascots through a no-stats, vibes-only bracket challenge to crown the real national champion. Based solely on mascots, not teams. One with a mustache may or may not have won.Highlights:0:00 – Why last week's episode was late2:30 – Starlink satellites9:30 – Driving gloves17:50 – RELEVANT Buzz: High Point University's Chase Johnston's #99 story27:00 – Emily's South by Southwest panel with Vince Gilligan31:45 – The Lost arc, the Sawyer problem, and what Vince Gilligan owes culture36:00 – Pat Barrett joins the show38:30 – Recording 'Break Open' live in a sweaty tent40:40 – Why the title song sat unreleased for nearly 10 years42:50 – Songwriting vs. worship leading — what's actually better?45:20 – Pat's surfing obsession48:15 – The March Madness Mascot Bracket ChallengeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ryan Gosling joins the RELEVANT Podcast to talk about his new sci-fi film Project Hail Mary — what made him fall in love with this story and why this one might be a "core memory" film for a generation. Before that, Emily reports from SXSW to break down the week's biggest faith-and-culture stories: a Christian animated short film made by two Pixar animators and 200 volunteers (including musician Josh Garrels) got nominated for an Oscar. Also Christian apologist Wesley Huff went on the popular podcast 'Diary of a CEO' and told Stephen Bartlett to his face he's going to hell. Plus, NFL quarterback Justin Fields reveals he wants to become a missionary after football. Then in Slices: the Tooth Fairy economy is growing (Jesse has a lot of thoughts), a huge scandal in a camel beauty pageant, and you'll never be able to predict this week's 'What's Jesse Thinking?' segment. It's a wild ride this week.Highlights:00:25 — SxSW breakdown: The decline from tech-and-music powerhouse 07:38 — RELEVANT BUZZ07:43 — The Office canon errors: a deep dive nobody asked for (Michael Scott's anniversary math)10:11 — Forevergreen: Oscar-nominated Christian animated short by two Pixar animators + 200 volunteers, featuring Josh Garrels19:22 — Wesley Huff talks Christianity on 'Diary of a CEO'26:07 — NFL QB Justin Fields says he wants to be a missionary after football 30:07 — SLICES30:14 — The Tooth Fairy economy 35:34 — Camel beauty pageant scandal 37:53 — RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Project Hail Mary 43:25 — Ryan Gosling on why he keeps making space movies and why he won't actually go to space46:42 — Ryan Gosling on why he picked Project Hail Mary — "you would die for this rock alien"48:54 — Ryan Gosling on Project Hail Mary as a "core memory movie" like E.T. and Back to the Future50:01 — WHAT'S JESSE THINKING?: Should Golden Corral run the US government?56:23 — Post-credits: Apology to the estate of Shel SilversteinAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Colony House is back with a new album, and they sat down with Emily to reflect on 10 years of making music and what they want the next decade to look like. In RELEVANT Buzz: Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his powerful faith journey — from foxhole prayer, to sobriety and a faith that sounds like the real thing. We also bring a story flying under the radar: nearly a million Christians are living inside Iran right now, and we hear directly from believers on the ground to get their thoughts on the war and religious freedom. Plus, the backlash to the Atlanta Hawks announcing "Magic City Night" — a themed game night centered around an infamous Atlanta strip club.Then, pastor Kyle Idleman joins us to talk about how modern American Christianity has slowly turned Jesus into a therapist and self-help guru — and what we've lost in the process. It's a challenge worth sitting with.In Slices: a Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit mid-game, United Airlines starts banning passengers who refuse headphones, and we close with a Spring Break edition of Would You Rather.01:00 — The crocheting trend taking over 03:48 — The appeal of old stuff10:41 — RELEVANT BUZZ 10:41 — Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his Christian testimony. Foxhole prayers, sobriety and millennial rockers finding faith14:25 — Marty's attempt to join the Elk Club for a Newport parking spot22:04 — Iranian Christians: nearly 1 million believers inside Iran28:33 — Atlanta Hawks "Magic City Night"30:42 — Kyle Idleman interview: How American Christianity has missed the real Jesus35:16 — SLICES35:16 — Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit41:01 — United Airlines bans passengers who won't use headphones45:31 — RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Colony House — 77 Part 2 50:33 — WOULD YOU RATHER: Spring Break Edition | Pullout couches, photo shoots, emo cruises, bad vibes vs. mediocre food, and Marty's 3am cockfight vacationAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Zachary Levi — Chuck, Shazam, and now host of the new docu-drama David: King of Israel — joins us to talk about why the story of David is the one he keeps coming back to. It's a story of someone who's broken, who makes terrible decisions, and who somehow still gets called a man after God's own heart. Levi explains what sets this show apart from all the other David content out there right now and why he thinks everyone needs to hear this story again.Also in this episode: We've been hearing a lot about revival — from the SEU outpouring to Asbury to rising Bible sales. But does the data actually back that up? We talked to Ryan Burge, a pastor, researcher and political analyst who's spent 20 years studying church trends, and his answer might surprise you. Plus, Gen Z is quietly bringing physical media back, why AI in the operating room is already causing problems, and Jesse drops a statistic about cats and birds that is either shocking or deeply unpopular depending on whether you own a cat.And it's the spring edition of One Has to Go!TIMESTAMPS0:45 — Cameron stress-eating popcorn at the Magic game and them losing because of it 5:45 — RELEVANT Buzz 7:00 — Zach Levi on David: King of Israel11:15 — DVDs and physical media are making a comeback, thanks to Gen Z 19:00 — Is revival actually happening in America? Researcher Ryan Burge on the data 28:15 — SLICES: Jesse's very unpopular take on cats and birds 36:05 — Derek: AI in the operating room and why we need to pump the brakes 41:00 — ONE HAS TO GO: Spring Edition Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, Elevation Worship's Chris Brown tells us why the band took an extra year off from releasing music — and what their new album ‘So Be It’ sounds like on the other side of that pause. We also hear from Portland Trail Blazers chaplain Mike Tatlock, who talked to us during NBA All-Star Weekend to share what he's seeing behind the scenes: more players showing up to chapel, more genuine conversations about faith, and a tangible spiritual shift across pro sports.In RELEVANT Buzz, we dig into a new report revealing the alcohol industry has lost $830 billion in the last four years — largely because Gen Z just isn't drinking. Plus, the cast gets real about dealing with hateful internet comments, the Celebrity All-Star Game gets a much-needed fix, and we settle the TGIF sitcom debate once and for all. Oh, and a man at a Nashville Waffle House ordered a hash brown bowl and got bear-sprayed, tased and zip-tied instead. You know, a typical RELEVANT Podcast.HIGHLIGHTS01:07 — Jesse Got Roasted on YouTube and It's Eating Him Alive08:10 — Hate Follows: Why Do People Follow Content That Triggers Them?10:03 — Golden Rule the Comments Section12:57 — RELEVANT Buzz: Is A Faith Revival Happening in Pro Sports?15:12 — NBA Chaplain Mike Tatlock 18:10 — Derek on How Christian Hip Hop Maybe Helped Fuel the Movement19:31 — What Chaplains Are Seeing Behind the Scenes23:23 — Jesse's Celebrity All-Star Game Fix: Danny DeVito & Tom Cruise26:46 — The Worst National Anthems of All Time31:26 — Gen Z Is Killing the Alcohol Industry — $830 Billion Lost35:09 — Elevation Worship's Chris Brown on Their New Album So Be It36:45 — Interview Clip: Why They Took Time Off for the First Time in a Decade38:08 — SLICES: Buffalo Wild Wings Sued Over "Boneless Wings"42:10 — A Man Got Bear-Sprayed, Tased & Zip-Tied at Waffle House Over Hash Browns44:42 — ASK THE CAST: Has Jesse Ever Been Pranked?45:24 — Jesse's Most Diabolical College Pranks (Alarm Clocks, Air Horns & Peanut Butter)48:45 — Cameron Put Squirrels in a Guy's Room49:48 — Dream Guests: The RELEVANT Mount Rushmore50:31 — Which Cast Member Would You Want to Be Stranded With?51:05 — Do Your Families Listen to the Podcast?51:30 — Favorite TGIF Era Sitcom 53:22 — If You Could Go Back to 2003 and Tell Yourself One ThingAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, Zach Williams from indie-folk band The Lone Bellow joins the show to talk about their new album — including the wild story of how their van was broken into, all their recordings were stolen, and their fans raised enough money to help them start over.In RELEVANT Buzz, we show you the ongoing worship outpouring happening at Southeastern University in Florida, where students have been in nonstop prayer, worship and confession for the last week (we talk to the campus pastor). We also break down the viral claim that Christian hip hop is the #1 rap subgenre on Spotify — and why it's not actually true. Plus, a worship pastor goes viral on American Idol, Kevin Durant gets exposed for burner accounts during All-Star Weekend, and a guy who lost a golf bet is now 23 days into eating nothing but Wendy's chili. At the end of the show, we've got Ask the Cast and Jesse and Emily confess to the one question they both regret asking in an interview.TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Jesse's Super Bowl Spreader Event05:46 — RELEVANT Buzz: The SEU Outpouring18:49 — Kevin Durant's Burner Account 22:06 — Is Christian Hip Hop Really Huge on Spotify?24:44 — Worship Pastor Goes Viral on American Idol29:26 — RELEVANT Recommends: The Lone Bellow 34:49 — SLICES: The Wendy's Chili Bet41:31 — AI Is Bad at Medical Advice45:57 — ASK THE CAST: Embarrassing TikTok Purchases & Weird Google SearchesAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, actor Milo Ventimiglia — known for 'This Is Us,' 'Gilmore Girls' and 'Heroes' — tells us why he chose to star in a new Christian movie, playing real-life worship artist Tim Timmons, who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over 20 years ago and is still defying the odds today. In RELEVANT Buzz, the crew recaps the Super Bowl — including the incredible story of Seahawks coach Mike McDonald, who followed God's calling to leave the corporate world to take an unpaid internship in coaching. And now 12 years later, it's led to a Super Bowl championship. We also dig into a new study revealing that Gen Z is statistically dumber than their parents (and why that's significant). Plus, Jesse forces the crew to watch the Carman movie trailer, and at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast! And of course Jesse and Derek have some strong thoughts on Ring cameras and drones.Highlights:01:28 — The Olympics and Derek's New Drone04:59 — Ring Cameras Have Ruined Jesse's Hypothetical Heist06:18 — The Dark Knight Predicted the Ring Camera Era09:20 — Apple Is Buying Tech That Can Hear Your Silent Speech16:29 — RELEVANT BUZZ19:31 — Coach Mike McDonald: From Accountant to Super Bowl Champion23:04 — New Study: Gen Z Is Scoring Lower on IQ Tests Than Their Parents24:40 — The Lost Art of Daydreaming & Why Boredom Matters30:09 — Milo Ventimiglia on ‘I Can Only Imagine 2’33:24 — Jesse Makes the Crew Watch the Carman Movie Trailer (Live Reaction)37:47 — SLICES38:11 — Man Cited for Juggling Fire on a Unicycle in a Crosswalk41:11 — Man Breaks Into Little Caesars After Hours & Starts Selling Pizzas43:09 — ASK THE CAST44:05 — What Belief Have You Changed Your Mind On?45:46 — Boundaries You Didn't Know You Could Set46:40 — What Today Would Shock Yourself 10 Years Ago?47:18 — Podcast Voice vs. Real Voice49:48 — Who Has the Worst Music Taste on the Crew?51:04 — Why Jesse Is a Terrible Texter52:55 — NBA All-Star Weekend: Does Anyone Care?53:59 — Outro & YouTube Growth UpdateAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, legendary Christian rapper Trip Lee tells us about his unexpected move into worship music with his new album. Before that, the crew swaps stories from last week's historic winter storm—Emily survived three days without power in freezing temps and Jesse narrowly avoided going to a fun Orlando Magic game with Cameron.In RELEVANT Buzz, we break down Jelly Roll's powerful Grammy acceptance moment, plus the youngest Grammy winner at just eight years old. We also dive into new research showing the vast majority of people want authentic faith representation in TV and movies, and then Emily previews two interesting new shows: Jury Duty Season 2's unexpected premise and Neighbors, HBO and A24's reality series about strangers forced to live together.Plus, Jesse announces his new podcast Target Intelligence: Psyop and Derek plugs his brand-new show, You Can't Say That in Church. Jesse of course brings his most rewatched video of the week: a Medieval Combat League warrior armed with a real axe who keeps targeting opponents from behind with hilarious headshots. Then in SLICES we cover Miami's iguana apocalypse—dinosaurs falling from trees as residents collect them by the armload (and definitely aren't disposing of them properly).And to close it out, it's Super Bowl week, so we're playing a special edition of "One Has to Go" covering everything from iconic Super Bowl commercials and halftime show moments to game-day snacks and controversial performances. Spoiler: mozzarella sticks do not survive Jesse's hot take.Highlights:00:00 — Intro & Winter Storm Survival Stories07:43 — RELEVANT Buzz08:00 — Jelly Roll's Powerful Grammy Acceptance Speech11:27 — Eight-Year-Old Becomes Youngest Grammy Winner in History12:33 — New Study: 92% of Viewers Want Authentic Faith in TV & Movies16:37 — Jury Duty Season 2 Preview: Hot Sauce Company Chaos18:00 — Neighbors: HBO and A24's New Reality Series24:00 — Medieval Combat League Axe Warrior Goes Viral31:09 — Trip Lee 32:00 — Why Trip Lee Made a Worship Album After Years in Hip-Hop35:00 — Trip Lee on Being a Teaching Pastor and Collaborating With Worship Leaders37:00 — SLICES: Miami's Iguana Apocalypse43:30 — Super Bowl Edition: "One Has to Go" Game45:53 — Iconic Super Bowl Commercials (Doritos, Tide, QR Code)46:21 — Controversial Super Bowl Ads (GoDaddy, Carl's Jr., Axe)47:04 — Super Bowl Snacks Face-Off (Doritos, Lay's, Pringles)47:30 — Soda Showdown (Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, Mountain Dew)48:00 — Jesse's Mozzarella Stick Hot Take Sparks Chaos49:31 — Halftime Show Showdown (Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Beyoncé)50:01 — Most Controversial Halftime Moments (Nipplegate, Dancing Sharks)50:52 — Halftime Props (JLo's Pole, Usher's Skates, Dr. Dre's Lowrider)Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, we talk to ‘Mercy’ star Chris Pratt about how faith shapes his life and career. He opens up about navigating public narratives, using his platform with purpose and why he believes being open about faith matters more than ever.In RELEVANT Buzz, the crew dives into Jelly Roll’s moving moment on 'Star Search,' why Gen Z is intentionally disconnecting from their phones and whether music is actually getting sadder. Plus, stories about AI fatigue, bizarre license plate drama, a ketchup packet felony and a guy trying to create a new nation in Texas. And at the end of the show, don't miss the Best Game Ever!Highlights:01:00 Storm prep anxiety and riding it out03:27 The man who tried to start his own country in Texas06:56 The confidence of mediocre white men18:23 RELEVANT Buzz 18:53 Jelly Roll’s Gospel moment on Star Search21:58 Study finds popular music is getting sadder24:36 Gen Z intentionally disconnecting from phones30:10 Chris Pratt 36:40 SLICES 38:38 Mr. Potato Head license plate controversy39:34 Florida man charged over ketchup packet45:14 “Best Game Ever” Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, we sit down with Chelsea Smith to talk about dating wisely, building a resilient marriage and navigating seasons when love feels harder than usual. She shares practical advice for singles, couples and anyone wondering if what they’re experiencing is normal.In RELEVANT Buzz, we unpack the rise of political independents among Gen Z and millennials, Brandon Lake’s Good Morning America moment and why Christian hip-hop is showing up at Rolling Loud.Plus, the crew debates whether it’s easier to bowl a perfect game or hit a hole-in-one for a million dollars, discusses illegal monkeys in St. Louis and breaks down Gen Z’s newest solution to burnout: a “retirement home” in Malaysia.Highlights:06:30 – Million-dollar question: perfect bowling game or hole-in-one?16:05 – RELEVANT Buzz16:15 – Christian hip-hop at Rolling Loud18:10 – Brandon Lake on Good Morning America (and the Maury joke)20:45 – Gallup: Gen Z and millennials are going independent31:40 – Chelsea Smith on dating33:55 – What every healthy marriage needs35:30 – Advice for couples in hard seasons37:55 – Our new partnership with 316 Financial + Reset Series42:25 – Slices 42:45 – St. Louis offers amnesty for illegal monkey owners47:05 – A Gen Z “retirement home” opens in MalaysiaTo learn more about 316 Financial's $100 offer for RELEVANT listeners, check out https://www.Bank316.com/RELEVANT!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of The RELEVANT Podcast, we break down a surprisingly faith-heavy week in pop culture.In RELEVANT Buzz, Khloé Kardashian opens up in depth about her faith and prayer life, Stranger Things star Caleb McLaughlin shares why he’s returning to faith after growing up as a pastor’s kid. Then we discuss news at the other end of the spectrum: Bestselling Christian author Philip Yancey stepping away from ministry after confessing to an eight-year extramarital affair and Christian pop singer Stacie Orrico’s lawsuit alleging childhood sexual abuse by her former manager. We wrap things on an up-note, highlighting Daniel Caesar’s spiritually charged Tiny Desk performance.Plus, the crew reacts to DMX’s posthumous ordination, Jesse spirals over the murder math of NCIS, shares a wild Lamar Odom encounter and we play another round of ‘Overrated, Underrated or Just Right.’Highlights:03:00 Jesse’s NCIS take and the Navy murder math spiral14:15 RELEVANT Buzz begins17:05 Khloé Kardashian opens up about her Christian faith28:15 Caleb McLaughlin talks faith, deconstruction and returning to God31:55 Philip Yancey steps away from ministry after affair confession34:35 Stacie Orrico files lawsuit alleging childhood sexual abuse37:50 Daniel Caesar’s Tiny Desk and his spiritual journey39:20 Slices: Lottery odds website exposes Powerball math44:10 DMX to be posthumously recognized as a minister46:05 Game: Overrated, Underrated or Just Right (Part 2)47:15 Mayonnaise, squats and Chris Hemsworth49:00 Pet fish, LaCroix and Philip Yancey books50:00 Air fryers, motorcycles and voice notesAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, we tackle the biggest faith questions young adults are asking right now (according to the recent Passion Conference) — from evidence for God’s existence and the tension between free will and predestination, to suffering, salvation and thoughts on hell. It’s an honest conversation about doubt, belief and why curiosity might be essential to spiritual growth.From there, Emily sits down with CITIZENS frontman Zach Bolen to talk about the band’s new album Museum, being in the Christian music bubble while feeling like an outsider and why art doesn’t need to explain itself to be meaningful. Plus, Jesse has some thoughts over the increasingly unhinged Guinness World Records, from pigs on skateboards to LEGO-related pain tolerance, and the crew plays a round of “Overrated, Underrated or Just Right,” covering reboots, word-of-the-year culture and more!Highlights:3:10 New Year check-in4:20 The Crown5:25 Why New Year’s TV is terrible9:55 Fireworks gone wrong14:15 RELEVANT BUZZ17:05 The top faith questions young adults are asking at the Passion Conference31:00 Awards season highlights38:30 Zach Bolen of CITIZENS42:10 Faith, deconstruction, and the Nashville bubble46:20 Curiosity as a spiritual discipline50:10 SLICES50:14 Guinness World Records need a reboot56:20 OVERRATED, UNDERRATED, OR JUST RIGHT?Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We wrap up 2025 and kick off 2026 by catching up on everything from post-holiday chaos to the optimism that comes with starting a new year. Along the way, we touch on Justin Bieber’s recent reflections on faith, how people in 1998 predicted 2025, and surprising new archeological evidence that Noah's Ark was real. From there, the episode takes a turn into full chaos as Jesse introduces his own idea for the “Patriot Games”: teams of Americans competing using everyday life skills, jury duty-style. The episode then wraps with the cast predicting the trends of 2026 — all delivered with the usual mix of humor, honesty and side-tracking that makes the show what it is.Highlights:05:10 — Spring-free trampolines and modern parenting stress07:40 — Childhood injuries, backyard chaos and growing up feral12:30 — The unspoken pressure of being “the capable adult”13:33 — SLICES: Noah’s Ark evidence25:03 — 1998 predicts 202531:53 — Justin Bieber’s faith posts30:45 — WHAT'S JESSE THINKING? Jesse introduces his Patriot Games concept43:20 — IN OR OUT? Predicting 2026 Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In our Christmas episode, Cameron Strang, Jesse Carey, Derek Minor and Emily Brown dive into a packed RELEVANT Buzz, including NFL players putting faith into action in unexpected ways, a Christian animated film debuting near the top of the box office, Timothée Chalamet unexpectedly singing Kirk Franklin and a spontaneous worship moment from Justin Bieber that caught the internet’s attention.The crew also tackles one of the most important questions of the season: what actually makes a perfect Christmas day? From wake-up times and breakfast spreads to family expectations, church plans and evening traditions, they attempt—somewhat successfully—to agree on a Christmas schedule everyone can enjoy.Plus, it’s an Ask the Cast: Christmas Edition, with listener questions about end-of-year burnout, holiday boundaries and when it’s officially time to stop saying “Merry Christmas.”Highlights:1:00 – Emily’s Quilt Room Setup4:00 – RELEVANT BUZZ4:30 – Baltimore Ravens Wash Kids Feet8:20 – David Hits No. 2 at the Box Office11:30 – Is Avatar Still Impressive?14:30 – Timothée Chalamet Sings Kirk Franklin24:30 – Justin Bieber’s Worship Moment25:45 – Designing the Perfect Christmas Day36:12 – SLICES: The 6-7 Meme Gets Real 44:05 – The World's Largest Gingerbread Home Alone House46:05 – ASK THE CAST: Christmas EditionAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In the final episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversations series, we sit down with two influential voices using their platforms to point toward something deeper.First, New England Patriots rookie running back TreVeyon Henderson shares how his faith was shaped long before the NFL spotlight. From a season-ending injury at Ohio State that led him to Jesus to helping spark faith gatherings across campus, Henderson talks about spiritual leadership, obedience over outcomes, and what it looks like to follow Christ inside high-pressure locker rooms. His story is also featured in the new docuseries Redemption, now streaming on Prime Video via The Wonder Project.Then, Lecrae, one of the most influential figures in Christian hip-hop, joins the conversation following the release of his 10th album, Reconstruction. He reflects on misunderstanding, therapy, deconstruction and why he believes Christian hip-hop is entering a new era without categories. Lecrae also opens up about legacy, leadership, and his role as a bridge between faith and culture.This episode is presented by World Vision, a global Christian humanitarian organization working to tackle the root causes of poverty and injustice worldwide.Chapters:01:15 – Why TreVeyon Henderson uses his NFL platform for faith02:01 – Growing up with football as a lifeline04:24 – When faith became real during a season-ending injury06:40 – Sleep paralysis, spiritual warfare and healing through prayer08:28 – Faith leadership inside Ohio State football11:33 – Carrying faith into the NFL locker room12:58 – Spiritual disciplines and the “secret place”16:21 – Why faith is rising among professional athletes18:56 – Why Henderson highlighted persecuted Christians in Nigeria22:45 – Lecrae on why Reconstruction is different24:53 – Transparency vs vulnerability in creative work26:08 – Therapy, confidence and owning your voice29:25 – Why Lecrae chose the word “Reconstruction”30:46 – Leadership, loneliness and stewardship33:01 – The future of Christian hip-hop34:41 – Lecrae on legacy and being a bridge between faith and culture44:17 – How Reconstruction invites people back to faithAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Rian Johnson’s new Knives Out film, 'Wake Up Dead Man,' is sparking conversations few mainstream movies ever touch — faith, forgiveness, power and what it actually means to follow Jesus in a polarized world.In this episode, we talk with the filmmaker about growing up in the Church, walking away from faith and why Christ’s teachings — especially “love your enemy” — still shape the stories he wants to tell. Johnson opens up about wrestling with the us-versus-them mentality, the corrupting pull of power and influence, and why he wanted to portray Christian belief with empathy rather than caricature.Plus, the RELEVANT crew debates the best Christmas movie of all time in a chaotic bracket showdown, reacts to surprising year-end culture stories and discusses new research suggesting adolescence doesn’t actually end until age 32.HIGHLIGHTS:01:40 – Why 'Wake Up Dead Man' Feels Like a Gospel Story04:00 – Serving vs. Fighting: Faith and the Culture War06:45 – Why Culture Is More Open to Spiritual Conversations09:20 – Is Wake Up Dead Man the Best Knives Out Movie?12:10 – Is Rian Johnson Done With Faith?13:10 – Christianity vs. Church Culture20:15 – RELEVANT Buzz22:00 – Forrest Frank Breaks Into Google’s “Hum to Search” List26:30 – Theo Von and Morgan Wallen’s Bible Study Revealed32:00 – Rian Johnson on Growing Up Evangelical34:00 – “Arms Wide Open vs. Fists Up” Faith Explained39:00 — SLICES39:20 – New Research Says Adolescence Lasts Until Age 3245:15 – AI Reality TV Is Here (Unfortunately)47:30 – Christmas Movie Bracket ChallengeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, Andy Mineo joins us for a hilarious and surprisingly vulnerable conversation about reinvention, perfectionism, leaving Reach Records, making his first album in four years and why he almost drove himself crazy trying to get it right. Plus, the cast dives into:– Brandon Lake dominating Billboard’s year-end charts– The ER vs The Pitt IP controversy– Ticketmaster’s takedown– TreVeyon Henderson spotlighting persecuted Christians on the field– A chaotic game of “One Has to Go” that reveals way too much (about Andy)CHAPTERS:1:20 – '90s nostalgia, ER and the IP drama behind The Pitt10:25 – RELEVANT Buzz: Brandon Lake ruled 202515:45 – Olivia Dean takes on Ticketmaster19:50 – TreVeyon Henderson highlights persecuted Christians in Nigeria21:50 – Andy Mineo joins the show22:20 – Why his new album took four years23:40 – Perfectionism, analysis paralysis and moving faster27:10 – More new music is already loading28:35 – Andy & Marty’s 15-year friendship origin story32:05 – “One Has to Go” with Andy41:55 – Parenting, nostalgia and movies that don’t hit the same44:15 – 80s/90s PG movies were NOT PGRemember, you can watch the episode video on YouTube!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Two former Bachelor stars. Two very different, but impactful, post-show paths. One episode about what it really looks like to use your platform well. In this new installment of The RELEVANT Podcast: Impact Conversations, Emily Brown and Cameron Strang sit down with Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins to talk about life after reality TV, spiritual growth, calling, purpose, and how to steward influence in a way that actually matters. First, Emily talks with Madi Prewett Troutt, who has spent the last five years immersed in ministry—preaching, writing, podcasting, discipling young women, and building a life rooted deeply in Scripture and the local church. She opens up about spiritual transformation, accountability, confession, motherhood, leadership, and learning to stay true to her convictions even when it’s costly. Then Cameron sits down with Ben Higgins, who—after his time on The Bachelor—built Generous Coffee, launched multiple businesses, stepped into a major faith-centered role at iHeartRadio, and wrote a book on connection. Ben shares candidly about anxiety, purpose, fatherhood, entrepreneurship, and using business as a vehicle for generosity and Kingdom impact. If you’ve ever wondered how to live out your calling, use your platform responsibly, walk in integrity, or navigate fame and faith in a digital age—this episode is rich, honest, and deeply encouraging. Presented by World Vision.HIGHLIGHTS:01:50 — Madi Prewett Troutt02:13 — Madi on how her life has changed since The Bachelor04:57 — Moving from motivational speaking to biblical teaching07:11 — How moving and finding a new church shaped her spiritual growth09:57 — How Madi discerns what God is calling her to speak into12:21 — Choosing conviction over comfort16:53 — Breaking secret sin cycles and finding freedom22:14 — Protecting peace and setting boundaries on social media28:23 — Why Madi launched her podcast and how God led the timing33:37 — Learning patience when God says “wait”38:21 — Ben Higgins41:28 — Life/work balance as a new dad43:30 — What Ben does for work now45:49 — How his role at iHeartRadio is expanding into faith initiatives50:39 — Rethinking conferences, creativity, and reaching the disconnected52:29 — Mike Foster’s coaching 56:03 — Restaurant ventures, investing and avoiding AI-replaceable spaces59:16 — Why his new book is about connection (not fame)1:02:11 — Feeling like an outsider and the moment everything changed1:04:47 — How vulnerability unexpectedly connected him with millions1:07:21 — Did The Bachelor change him?1:10:06 — A friend’s advice that shifted his entire approach to fameAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Chris Llewellyn from Irish folk worship band Rend Collective joins us to talk about the band’s new album 'Christmas in Belfast,' the surprising Irish traditions behind it and what it’s like navigating life between Ireland and Nashville.We also break down the biggest stories in faith and culture, including NF’s record-setting Billboard debut, the wild rise of AI-generated music, and Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s faith-forward breakout. Plus, the crew swaps celebrity-encounter stories and brings Chris into a special holiday round of “One Has to Go.”CHAPTERS:02:00 – Jesse spots an SNL cast member at the airport06:30 – Marty’s celebrity encounters at LAX08:30 – Cameron’s wild Kanye West airport story09:40 – RELEVANT Buzz 09:55 – NF’s massive Billboard debut12:00 – AI music platform Suno is creating 7 million songs a day14:20 – Is AI killing creativity? The crew debates19:10 – Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s record-breaking game & public faith24:10 – Chris Llewellyn of Rend Collective24:40 – The story behind Christmas in Belfast26:40 – Irish Christmas traditions & late-night candlelit services27:50 – Gaelic football, Welsh kickers & Jesse’s confusion29:55 – Chris on moving from Ireland to Nashville31:00 – How Irish political history shaped his view of division32:15 – Holiday Edition of “One Has to Go” with Chris35:35 – Marty’s trauma with board games36:10 – Brunch vs. naps: the debate38:00 – Emily vs. “crisp evenings”39:00 – Snoopy, Peanuts, and Christmas ornament chaos40:45 – Group prayer handholding horrors43:30 – Emily’s tiny tabletop Christmas tree revelationAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On this episode of our Impact Conversations series, we sit down with Tara-Leigh Cobble, creator of The Bible Recap — one of the most influential Bible-reading podcasts in the world. Tara-Leigh shares how The Bible Recap started, how she built a global Bible-reading community and what she’s learned about Scripture, calling and obedience along the way. If you’re trying to understand the Bible or want to stay consistent in your Bible reading plan, this conversation is for you.We also feature a bonus interview with Christian financial expert Art Rainer, who breaks down how to approach money, generosity and financial stress from a biblical perspective. If you’re looking for Christian financial advice, how to give when money is tight or how to steward your resources well, you’ll want to hear this.Presented by World Vision.CHAPTERS:02:37 — Tara-Leigh Cobble: How The Bible Recap Started06:04 — Building the podcast with a $99 mic08:45 — When the calling gets costly10:55 — The story that kept her going14:43 — Leadership, discernment and calling16:49 — Feeling unqualified but called21:09 — Advice for taking your first step23:17 — Bonus Interview: Art Rainer26:13 — Money is a tool, not a goal28:10 — How to be generous when money is tight33:31 — Giving, debt and proportional generosity37:00 — Creative ways to be generous without moneyAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy