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Movement Logic: Strong Opinions, Loosely Held

Author: Dr. Sarah Court, PT, DPT and Laurel Beversdorf

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Welcome to the Movement Logic Podcast, with yoga teacher and strength coach Laurel Beversdorf, and physical therapist Dr. Sarah Court. With over 30 years combined experience in the yoga, movement and physical therapy worlds, we believe in strong ideas, loosely held – which means we’re not hyping outdated movement concepts. Instead, we’re here with up-to-date and cutting-edge tools, evidence and ideas to help you as a mover and a teacher. Music: Makani by Scandinavianz & AXM
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In this episode, Laurel and Sarah talk with menopause educator and advocate Amanda Thebe about Midi Health, its public messaging, and what happens when menopause care becomes a venture-backed business model. Amanda shares how she first noticed Midi when a physician moved from a major hospital to join the telemedicine platform, and why she initially saw it as a promising solution to a real problem, women being dismissed, under-treated, and unable to access knowledgeable care. Over time, she describes getting "amber flags" from Midi's marketing, especially the way hormone therapy was framed as a near-universal fix with benefits that outpaced the evidence, a pattern she contrasts with other companies she feels communicate more responsibly. The conversation digs into the incentives created by venture capital funding and what it can do to a company's priorities, shifting from careful medical decision-making to selling more, retaining customers longer, and expanding into profitable add-ons. They discuss Midi's move into wellness-style offerings and unproven products, including rapamycin framed for longevity, compounded and non-evidence-based creams, and the broader drift of menopause platforms into weight loss and longevity medicine to keep people buying beyond the menopause transition. They also unpack why influential clinician-brands can develop intensely loyal followings that resist criticism, and what it signals when platforms partner with high-profile figures like Mary Claire Haver. Throughout, Amanda emphasizes that the real need is ethical, evidence-based care that doesn't put profit before patients, and she offers practical advice for what a solid menopause appointment looks like, how to prepare, where to look for reputable resources, and how to block the noise. FOLLOW @TheMovementLogic on Instagram WATCH @TheMovementLogic on YouTube Sign up for our Free Barbell Mini Course HERE RESOURCES Instagram: Amanda Thebe [https://www.instagram.com/amanda.thebe/] Website: amandathebe.com [https://amandathebe.com/] LinkedIn: Amanda Thebe [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-thebe/] Movement Logic: Doctor vs Brand [https://www.instagram.com/p/DS5cUmlEpdh/?img_index=1] IG post Amanda Thebe: Midi Health [https://www.instagram.com/p/DUyR1m1jiF3/?img_index=1] IG post Instagram: Dr. Pauline Maki [https://www.instagram.com/pauline.maki/] Instagram: Professor Susan Davis [https://www.instagram.com/professorsusandavis/] The Menopause Society [https://menopause.org/]: Provider directory and resources
In this episode, Dr. Sarah Court unpacks scoliosis from the ground up, what it is, how it is diagnosed, the different types, and what we actually know about why it happens. She explains the Cobb angle, idiopathic versus congenital, neuromuscular, and degenerative scoliosis, and why muscle imbalances, heavy backpacks, or "bad posture" are not the root cause. Drawing on her own experience living with scoliosis and her time observing medical care in a pediatric hospital setting, she walks through current medical interventions, including observation, bracing, and spinal fusion, along with the real-world tradeoffs that come with each. The episode then turns to exercise. Do you need scoliosis-specific methods like Schroth or SEAS, and do they meaningfully change outcomes? Sarah reviews the current evidence, which suggests small to modest short-term changes at best, with limited high-quality data, especially in adults. She makes the case that most adults with scoliosis do not need to chase curve correction or cosmetic symmetry. Instead, the focus should be on building strength, addressing meaningful side-to-side capacity differences, supporting breathing where needed, and improving function and confidence. Heavy lifting, including deadlifts and squats, is not inherently dangerous for people with scoliosis, and getting stronger is often the most practical, evidence-informed path forward. FOLLOW @theMovementLogic [https://www.instagram.com/themovementlogic/] on Instagram Movement Logic: Free Barbell Mini Course [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] RESOURCES: The Schroth Method [https://schrothmethod.com/]  The SEAS Method [https://en.isico.it/seas/] VIDEO [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Kcmux6bjJE]: Schroth in action
In this episode, Laurel and Sarah are joined by Dr. Joe Schwarcz, Director of the Office for Science and Society at McGill University and one of the most experienced science communicators working today. They explore why pseudoscientific health claims spread so effectively, even among educated and well-intentioned people, and why wellness culture is so drawn to simple explanations for complex biological problems. The conversation moves through three dominant narratives shaping modern health messaging: the obsession with finding a single root cause, the moralization of food, chemicals, and health behaviors, and the pressure to optimize every biological variable imaginable. Dr. Schwarcz explains how these narratives distort public understanding of science, create unnecessary anxiety, and distract from the few behaviors that reliably matter for health, like movement, nutrition, and basic risk management. They also discuss how science actually works, including why it changes over time, how peer review can fail, how industry funding complicates research interpretation, and why cherry-picked studies and observational data are so easily weaponized in marketing. The episode closes with practical guidance on how to evaluate health claims, how to think about trust and expertise, and why asking better questions is often more powerful than finding definitive answers. FREE Barbell Mini Course—SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram Verse Agile Rack, Foldable Home Barbell Rack [https://verse.fit/movement-logic] coupon code MovementLogic50OFF RESOURCES Dr. Schwarz's radio show [https://www.cjad800.com/shows/the-dr-joe-show.html] McGill University blog [https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/our-articles?page=9] McGill University YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/mcgilluniversity] Book: [https://amzn.to/4aMLU07] The Certainty Illusion, by Timothy Caulfield
In this solo episode, Sarah takes the "doctor vs brand" framework that went viral on Instagram and runs it as a real-time case study on a real company. The target is Cadense, an adaptive shoe that claims to help with foot drop, toe catch, and neurologic walking difficulties using "variable friction" tech, basically a glide-to-grip outsole design meant to reduce toe snagging while still giving traction during stance and push-off. Sarah breaks down what foot drop is, who this type of device might help, who it might put at risk, and why any rehab-adjacent product should be judged on more than vibe, testimonials, or white-coat authority. Then she gets into incentives, the part everyone wants to ignore until it's their wallet. She walks through Cadense's ambassador, coach, and affiliate pathways, and uses the full checklist to evaluate where Cadense lands on the clinician-led spectrum, including what they disclose well, what they oversimplify, and what they should tighten up if they want to be truly "do no harm" about a product that can literally change someone's fall risk. Finally, Sarah looks at the actual research (yes, it exists, no, it's not robust yet), explains what a five-person pilot study can and can't prove, and lays out the line she personally won't cross, recommending a product case-by-case versus becoming financially tied to a medical-ish purchase decision. FREE Barbell Mini Course—SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram Verse Agile Rack, Foldable Home Barbell Rack [https://verse.fit/movement-logic] coupon code MovementLogic50OFF RESOURCES Instagram Post [https://www.instagram.com/p/DS5cUmlEpdh/?img_index=1]: When a Doctor Becomes a Brand Cadense, Official Website [https://cadense.com/] Cadense Coaches Program, Clinician Partnership [https://cadense.com/pages/coaches] Pilot Study of Cadence, A Novel Shoe for Patients With Foot Drop, Evora et al. 2019 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/] NIH Clinical Trial, Variable Friction Shoe vs AFO (NCT06234124) [https://clinicaltrials.gov/] Global Wellness Economy Reaches $6.8 Trillion, Global Wellness Institute [https://globalwellnessinstitute.org/?utm_source=chatgpt.com]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel Beversdorf revisits the advice to eat 30 different plants per week and explains why it sounds scientific while resting on a much shakier foundation than it appears. She reflects on encountering the claim, why her and Sarah's initial reaction was skepticism, and how listener feedback led to a closer look at where the idea came from and how it spread. Laurel breaks down what the American Gut Project actually showed: an observational association between self reported plant variety and gut microbiome diversity in a specific, self selected, largely affluent cohort. She explains why this type of research cannot identify an optimal number of plants or justify turning a statistical cutoff into a universal lifestyle rule, especially given the limits of how plant intake was measured. She then examines how the venture backed consumer health company Zoe translated this association into a prescriptive target and built products around it, arguing that the clarity and certainty of the message functions as marketing rather than sound, science backed health advice. Finally, Laurel zooms out to the emotional and social impact of this advice, explaining how moralized wellness claims turn health into a performance metric while ignoring access, instability, and other social determinants of health. FREE Barbell Mini Course—SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram RESOURCES 113: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/113-debunking-menopause-grifters-dr-mary-claire-haver/id1614469934?i=1000731912781] Debunking Menopause Grifters 118: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/118-how-should-we-eat-to-be-healthy-with-abby-langer-rd/id1614469934?i=1000740595453] How Should We Eat To Be Healthy? with Abby Langer, RD 102: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/102-the-problem-with-moralizing-movement/id1614469934?i=1000715400053] Moralizing Movement American Gut Project McDonald, 2018; PMID: 29795809 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29795809/] Book: [https://amzn.to/4aMLU07] The Certainty Illusion, by Timothy Caulfield Guardian Article [https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/may/18/zoe-nutrition-app-diet-tim-spector-wellness-science]: 'Personalising stuff that doesn't matter': the trouble with the Zoe nutrition app Zoe + Science + Nutrition interview [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/zoe-science-nutrition/id1611216298?i=1000742775869] with Prof. Tim Spector Post: [https://www.instagram.com/p/DQrq1kACebR/] Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple's infographic on scientific process Post: [https://www.instagram.com/p/DSnMqbzEfzt/]What Peter Attia gets wrong Post: [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/reel/DTIbcaLjqNE/] Attia & 30 plants/week Post: [https://www.instagram.com/p/DS5cUmlEpdh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D] Doctor vs. Brand
Testosterone is everywhere in menopause conversations right now, often framed as a solution for everything from low energy and brain fog to bone health and longevity. In this episode, Dr. Sarah Court, PT breaks down what actually matters when it comes to testosterone for menopausal women, separating social media hype from clinical evidence. The real questions are not whether women have testosterone or whether levels change with age, but whether testosterone should be prescribed, for whom, and what the data truly supports. Using current consensus guidelines, this episode explains why testosterone has one narrow, evidence-based indication, hypoactive sexual desire disorder, and why claims about mood, energy, cognition, bone health, and longevity are not supported by high-quality research. Dr. Court also walks through how testosterone is prescribed in the real world, why the lack of FDA-approved products for women creates problems, and what the safety data does and does not tell us about long-term risks. If you have heard confident claims about testosterone as a menopause cure-all, this episode provides the context you need to evaluate those messages with clarity and skepticism. FOLLOW @MovementLogicTutorials [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] on Instagram Movement Logic: Free Barbell Mini Course [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] Instagram: Professor Susan Davis [https://www.instagram.com/professorsusandavis/] Instagram: Dr. Kelly Casperson [https://www.instagram.com/kellycaspersonmd/] Global Consensus Position Statement [https://doi.org/10.1210/jc.2019-01603] on the Use of Testosterone Therapy for Women — Davis et al., 2019, Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism ISSWSH Clinical Practice Guideline [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2021.02.667] on Systemic Testosterone for Women — Parish et al., 2021 Testosterone Therapy for Women [https://doi.org/10.1016/S2213-8587(19)30189-5], Systematic Review & Meta-analysis (Lancet Review) — Islam et al., 2019 Androgen Therapy in Women [https://doi.org/10.1016/S2213-8587(15)00128-7], A Reappraisal — Davis & Wahlin-Jacobsen, 2015 Kelly Casperson blog post [https://kellycaspersonmd.com/testosterone-can-help-with-libido-energy-focus-and-more/]— Testosterone Can Help With Libido, Energy, Focus, & More During Menopause You Are Not Broken Podcast [https://www.yournotsobrokenpodcast.com/]— Kelly Casperson, MD YouTube Short: Testosterone and Bone Health [https://youtu.be/nHatCgKJQC4] YouTube Short: Testosterone, Motivation & Vitality [https://youtu.be/ecUoZZTqwIw]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel and Sarah talk with registered dietitian and longtime myth buster Abby Langer, RD, about what it actually means to eat in a healthy, sustainable way. Abby brings clarity to some of the most confusing and overhyped nutrition messages online, explaining the meaningful difference between dietitians and nutritionists, why food guidelines get so much misplaced blame, and why simple habits like eating more fiber, plants, and whole foods still matter far more than clean eating, hormone-balancing diets, or supplement-driven solutions. She breaks down ultra processed foods, weight gain misconceptions, what causes overeating, and why carbs, fruit, sugar, and seed oils have all become targets of unnecessary fear. The conversation also explores protein needs, plant versus animal protein, the role of fiber in digestion and satiety, what gut health is and isn't, and why probiotic claims are often overstated. Abby shares how her decades of experience in hospitals, primary care, and private practice have shaped her evidence-based approach, and she offers grounded advice on how to build a sane, less anxious relationship with food in a culture that thrives on extremes. SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d4c544ab3a5d/minicourse] for our FREE Barbell Mini Course FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram RESOURCES abbylangernutrition.com [https://abbylangernutrition.com/] Substack: Bite Me [https://bitemebyabbylanger.substack.com/] Instagram: @abbylanger [https://www.instagram.com/direct/t/119905326062913/]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Sarah discusses two primary methods for measuring bone density: DEXA (Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry) and REMS (Radiofrequency Echographic Multi-Spectrometry). The episode explains what each method measures, their technologies, reliability, and practical applications. It compares their availability, cost, accuracy, and limitations. DEXA is recognized as the clinical gold standard but has some limitations, while REMS, although newer, shows promise with advantages in certain clinical situations. Movement Logic Site Wide Sale now on! [https://movementlogictutorials.com/movement-logic/sale/] Follow Movement Logic on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] References: 77: Are You Getting DEXA Scammed? [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/movement-logic-strong-opinions-loosely-held/id1614469934?i=1000668259419] FRAX tool [https://www.fraxplus.org/calculation-tool] Best Practices for Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry Measurement and Reporting [https://iscd.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Best-Practices-DXA-Article.pdf] New technology REMS for bone evaluation [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34786596/] Could radiofrequency echographic multispectrometry (REMS) overcome the overestimation in BMD by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry (DXA) at the lumbar spine? [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12891-022-05430-6] DXA beyond bone mineral density and the REMS technique [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11322484/] Cost-effectiveness of radiofrequency echographic multi-spectrometry for the diagnosis of osteoporosis in the United States [https://academic.oup.com/jbmrplus/article/9/1/ziae138/7877142]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel Beversdorf talks with strength coach James Lederach, MS, CSCS, about the deeper side of coaching and how helping someone get stronger often means helping them grow as a person. Together, they explore the benefits of strength development for adults and kids, training that supports rather than interferes with sport, the downsides of early sport specialization in youth, and the broader life lessons that strength training offers beyond physical health and performance. James and Laurel reflect on how training develops resilience, self-reliance, and emotional steadiness for both kids and adults. They discuss how good coaching balances structure with empathy, how strength training teaches self-trust, and why the most meaningful outcomes of training have less to do with performance and more to do with who we become through the process. SITE WIDE SALE — Save $$ [https://movementlogictutorials.com/movement-logic/sale/] on our Movement Logic Tutorials FOLLOW @MovementLogicTutorials [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/]on Instagram RESOURCES Bell, 2018; PMID: 30135085 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30135085/] DiFiori, 2014;  PMID: 24463910 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24463910/] Post, 2017; PMID: 28288281 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28288281/] Post, 2016; PMID: 27807260 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27807260/] VISIT James Lederach's Gym Heavy Athletics [https://heavyathletics.co/]  FOLLOW @james_lederach [https://www.instagram.com/james_lederach/] on Instagram
115: How to Get Abs

115: How to Get Abs

2025-10-2901:58:52

In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel Beversdorf and Dr. Sarah Court examine the enduring myths and misinformation around the aesthetic goal of "getting abs." They analyze the anatomy and function of the abdominal muscles, the cultural evolution of ab training versus core strength and stability training, and the role mechanical tension, muscle length, and training volume play in hypertrophy (muscle growth). Additionally, they discuss how pursuing the aesthetic goal of "getting abs" is different from performance goals related to abdominal strength. The hosts unpack popular misconceptions, such as "abs are made in the kitchen," or that body composition changes work differently for women than men, or that core stability means never moving your spine. They contrast these myths with what current research on energy balance and hypertrophy training show. They also trace how Pilates, physical therapy, and social media helped shape the modern core strength and stability narrative—one that, in some circles, shifted from building strength through movement to "protecting" the lumbar spine by avoiding it. Additionally, this episode aims to clarify all of the factors that influence the appearance of the abdominal region, and how gendered, moralized, and shame-based messaging about the midsection continues to distort public understanding of exercise and body image. CART CLOSES Nov 1st for Lift for Longevity—SIGN UP [https://movementlogictutorials.com/bone-density-course-lift-for-longevity/] FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram RESOURCES Clip: [https://tinyurl.com/ra253jzv]Mel Robbing Podcast interview with Stacy Sims about abs 67: [https://tinyurl.com/22dy48st] Popular Explanations for SI Joint Pain are Wrong, Says Science 78: [https://tinyurl.com/yc7jsm8s] Behemoth Knee Myths 20 [https://tinyurl.com/yjex3bk2]: Pelvic Floor In-Depth with Stephanie Prendergast, MPT 54: [https://tinyurl.com/yyt7h96v] Alignment Dogma - Spine 58: [https://tinyurl.com/3f9mynvp] Alignment Dogma - Shoulders 48: [https://tinyurl.com/m53zjf3u] Alignment Dogma - Pelvis 80: [https://tinyurl.com/26mabmxr] Posture Panic Pt. 3 with Author Dr. Beth Linker, PhD 50: [https://tinyurl.com/32eyf2pz] Bracing versus Breathing Slouch: [https://amzn.to/3LhCBu9] Posture Panic in Modern America, by Beth Linker GHD Sit-Up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pbZ8mX2D1U] Hodges, 2001; PMID: 11181617 Kalantari, 2024; PMID: 38565979 Brown, 2011; PMID: 21325932 Cholewicki, 1999; PMID: 10521659
In this episode of the Movement Logic podcast, hosts Laurel Beversdorf and Dr. Sarah Court PT dive deep into their six-month online barbell lifting course, 'Lift for Longevity.' They discuss the course structure, including linear periodization, high variation, and impact training. Laurel and Sarah also share insights on the benefits of barbell training for women, challenging societal norms about women's fitness, and emphasizing the importance of strength and self-efficacy. They underscore the transformative power of consistent strength training and offer practical advice for those considering joining their course. Sign up for the live Q&A on Wednesday October 22nd here (or get the replay) [https://mailchi.mp/movementlogictutorials/qanda] Movement Logic on Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials] References: Episode 112 Redefining what's possible: Lift for Longevity Alums Share their Stories [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/movement-logic-strong-opinions-loosely-held/id1614469934?i=1000730791636]
In this episode, Dr. Sarah Court and Laurel Beversdorf delve into the claims and marketing tactics used by two high-profile menopause experts and social media influencers, Dr. Mary Claire Haver and Dr. Vonda Wright. They explore and critique various aspects of their advice, including the advocacy for supplements like turmeric and collagen, the promotion of hormone therapy, and questionable exercise prescriptions. The hosts analyze the scientific validity of their claims, the potential harms, and the prevalence of fearmongering in their messaging. The episode aims to empower listeners to become more critical consumers of health information, especially in the menopause space. Sign Up for Our Free Strength Class THIS FRIDAY! [https://tinyurl.com/mr368a4k] Follow us on Instagram [https://tinyurl.com/4znx9a8c] References: Episode 37: Plyometrics – Get More Bang for your Bones [https://tinyurl.com/4ab69rwd] Episode 96: Bone Density Grifters – Introducing the Grift-O-Meter! [https://tinyurl.com/4p4ajrwj] Episode 103: Do Weighted Vests Do Anything For Us? [https://tinyurl.com/37htct47] Episode 109: Hot Flashes, Cold Facts: Menopause Myths That Won't Die [https://tinyurl.com/44zc297s] Episode 110: Fact Checking Female-Specific Training & Nutrition Advice with Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple, PhD [https://tinyurl.com/37ht6y9a] Episode 111: Make Stacy Sims Make Sense [https://tinyurl.com/375cxrme] The Pause Life [https://thepauselife.com/] Calorie Restriction with or without Time-Restricted Eating in Weight Loss [https://tinyurl.com/c489s6n6] Inflammatory mechanisms linking obesity and metabolic disease [https://tinyurl.com/2xdp2sjm] The power of creatine plus resistance training [https://tinyurl.com/yh5nhj22] The Effects of Creatine Supplementation Combined with Resistance Training [https://tinyurl.com/4kpwty63] Dose-Response of creatine supplementation on cognitive function [https://tinyurl.com/44rs4jha] Effects of Collagen Supplements  [https://tinyurl.com/mrhbz6da] Dietary Supplementation with Specific Collagen Peptides [https://tinyurl.com/bdf684r5] Oral intake of specific bioactive collagen peptides [https://tinyurl.com/5xz3bnzm] Specific Bioactive Collagen Peptides [https://tinyurl.com/5as6m99f] Vonda Wright [https://www.drvondawright.com/] The musculoskeletal syndrome of menopause [https://tinyurl.com/2say7ek6] Single Leg Balancing [https://tinyurl.com/2y22xtpk] Managing Menopausal Skin Changes [https://tinyurl.com/2zeukd4u] Topical estrogen for skin aging [https://tinyurl.com/3sh9cu22] Dr. Wright Instagram Posts: MSK Syndrome of Menopause [https://tinyurl.com/bp744pp3] F.A.C.E. [https://tinyurl.com/ysdaddhs] Estriol for face [https://tinyurl.com/3x5hvn24] Canyon Ranch [https://tinyurl.com/y7mhvens] Bone Density [https://tinyurl.com/52tfanfh] Hip Fracture [https://tinyurl.com/3f2bmdmy] Step Down [https://tinyurl.com/4ucnv7z4] Weighted Vests [https://tinyurl.com/nw7axr5a] Grip Strength [https://tinyurl.com/mrrbwh7d]
Welcome to Episode 112 of the Movement Logic Podcast! In this special episode, Laurel and Sarah talk to four women who recently completed Lift for Longevity about their experiences. Whether it's overcoming fear of injury, finally finding a program that sticks, breaking free from perfectionism, or realizing barbells belong in their hands, each woman brings a unique and inspiring story. In this episode, you'll hear from: Karen Klubertanz, an interior designer and yoga therapist who came to us after chronic back pain and years of yoga and kettlebells. Her story is about overcoming fear, learning to train with RPE, and discovering she could get stronger safely and sustainably. Anna Grojec, a freelance writer and editor in New Jersey who found us through the podcast and has now completed the course twice, entirely asynchronously without ever taking a live class. Her story is about making strength training stick for the first time in her life through structure and community support. Terry Littlefield, a longtime yoga teacher and old friend of Sarah's who came in skeptical, took our free class, and realized she had to join. Her story is about shifting from perfectionism to consistency and finding confidence under the barbell. Janai Leeb, a personal trainer in northern Los Angeles County who first got the impression in her PT cert that barbells weren't for her. She joined to build her own barbell skills and now teaches them to her clients. Her story is about finding her lane with the barbell and showing others that anyone can lift, at any age. If you've ever wondered if you're too old, too inexperienced, or too "not a gym person" to lift barbells and get stronger, these conversations will change your mind. SIGN UP for our FREE CLASS [https://mailchi.mp/movementlogictutorials/strength] for Bone Density Course on October 17th WITH REPLAY FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram
In this episode, Laurel and Sarah take a look at one of the most influential and controversial voices in women's health: Dr. Stacy Sims. Known for the phrase "women are not small men," Sims has built her brand on the idea that women need entirely different training and nutrition strategies than men. Laurel and Sarah trace Sims' rise to prominence, the research she leans on, and the rhetorical playbook she uses on major platforms like the Mel Robbins Podcast, and the Huberman Lab podcast. They examine how Sims' is able to persuade listeners of her ideas, even though her catchy slogans and bold claims outpace the evidence. Rather than just fact-checking Sims' most dubious claims on cycle syncing, fasted training, cardio, and how women should train, this episode instead focuses on how Sims' messages are delivered. You'll listen for how Sims' and the hosts of these podcasts frequently employ persuasive tactics like appeals to authority, fearmongering, absolutist framing, pseudo-feminist virtue signaling, and what Laurel and Sarah call "mechanism theater" can make the weak evidence and shaky reasoning behind the claims sound stronger than it is. These strategies aren't unique to Sims; you'll start noticing these persuasive tactics everywhere, especially in menopause marketing and wellness content online. SIGN UP for the FREE CLASS [https://mailchi.mp/movementlogictutorials/strength] for Bone Density Course FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram RESOURCES Sims' TedX talk [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LYGzKUPlE] 110: [https://tinyurl.com/37ht6y9a] Fact-Checking Female-Specific Training & Nutrition Advice with Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple, PhD Debate [https://tinyurl.com/29w4zvpw]between Sims and Colenso-Semple on  Docs Who Lift Post Debate Interview [https://tinyurl.com/mdzphbar] on Barbell Medicine 109: [https://tinyurl.com/44zc297s] Hot Flashes, Cold Facts: Menopause Myths that Won't Die 62: [https://tinyurl.com/mwnmt459] Make McGill Make Sense Bulky mug [https://tinyurl.com/2mzd3rh5] Social Post [https://tinyurl.com/2f36eb75] from Dr. Colenso-Semple about choice to use mechanistic, rat, or men's data 108: [https://tinyurl.com/44zvn7zz] Breathing for Bone Density? YogaU Cannot Be Serious 108: [https://tinyurl.com/er3fukyu] Does it Have to be Heavy? Rethinking the Lift Heavy Shit Narrative 98: [https://tinyurl.com/3xxx4ucn] Capacities for Longevity Part 3 - Cardio Decoding the Gurus [https://tinyurl.com/yntb4tsb] Front Page Fitness [https://tinyurl.com/yc4xucr5] Conspirituality [https://tinyurl.com/4brd6js8] Yoga Meets Movement Science [https://tinyurl.com/4akxnvyh] Barbell Medicine [https://tinyurl.com/3vyu85ar]
In this episode, Laurel and Sarah sit down with  muscle physiology researcher and science communicator Lauren Colenso-Semple to take a hard look at some of the most popular and problematic claims circulating in women's health and fitness. Together, they unpack the slogan "women are not small men," and the idea that women need completely different training and nutrition approaches than men. Lauren explains where the evidence actually stands on topics like muscle loss at 30, lifting to failure, cardio recommendations for women, bone density changes at menopause, training fasted versus fed, cycle syncing, cortisol "hacks," and more. This conversation is a deep dive into separating women's physiology from marketing ploys. Learn why overcomplicating women's training does more harm than good. You'll gain clear, evidence-based guidance for women in perimenopause, post-menopause, and beyond. Sign up [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] for the Bone Density Course Interest list Follow us [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram 04:30 Why Naming Sources Matters 08:15 "Women Are Not Small Men": What's True and What's Branding 16:00 How Much Research on Women Actually Exists 29:30 Training to Failure, Heavy vs. Light Loads, and Age-Specific Claims 31:00 The Case for Keeping Moderate-Intensity Cardio 36:15 Bone Loss Myths and What Exercise Really Helps 46:30 What "Challenging Sets" Mean in Research 49:00 Cortisol, Fasted Training, and Breakfast Timing 52:30 Low Energy Availability vs. Simply Skipping Breakfast 01:08:00 Cycle Syncing and Monthly Program Overhauls 01:15:00 Rapid-Fire Q&A: Creatine, Weighted Vests, Collagen, Protein Targets, Electrolytes 01:23:30 How Overcomplicated Rules Keep Women Out of Exercise 01:24:00 Has Stacy Sims Done More Good or More Harm? 01:26:30 Why Simple, Progressive Training Works for Everyone Dr Lauren Colenso-Semple [https://bit.ly/3I4aail] on Instagram Front Page Fitness [https://podcasts.apple.com/il/podcast/front-page-fitness/id1809853430] Podcast Study [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39630025/] Menstrual cycle phase does not influence muscle protein synthesis or whole-body myofibrillar proteolysis in response to resistance Mel Robbins Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mel-robbins-podcast/id1646101002?i=1000700967350] interview with Dr. Stacey Sims Huberman Lab Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/huberman-lab/id1545953110?i=1000662955352] interview with Dr. Stacey Sims
In this episode of the Movement Logic podcast, Sarah and Laurel take on the most persistent—and profitable—myths about menopause and women's health. From metabolism myths to cortisol panic, creatine hype, and new exercise "rules", they separate marketing spin from actual science. They also unpack the nuanced role of menopausal hormone therapy (MHT)—who it helps, when it's useful, and why menopause isn't a medical emergency needing endless "fixes." Sign up [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] for the Bone Density Course Interest list Follow us [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] @MovementLogicTutorials on Instagram 10:12 8 Menopause Myths and Misconceptions 37:08 Cortisol and Menopause 43:14 Exercise and Menopause 51:33 Muscle Loss and Menopause 55:00 Hormone Therapy and Muscle Mass: The Evidence 57:56 Debunking the Rapid Bone Loss Myth 01:04:31 The Truth About Creatine Supplementation 01:18:48 Menopause Symptoms vs. Aging: What's the Difference? 01:29:24 Menopause Hormone Therapy: Myths and Realities 01:42:25 Concluding Thoughts and Recommendations Ep 8 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/movement-logic-strong-opinions-loosely-held/id1614469934?i=1000571308499] A Perimenopause Perspective 63: [https://tinyurl.com/2rd7bj97] Dismantling Long and Lean Pt 2 108: [https://tinyurl.com/er3fukyu] Does it Have to be Heavy? Study [https://bit.ly/46aKPfW] Daily Energy Expenditure Through the Human Life Course Study [https://bit.ly/4pqb6yj] Changes in Physical Activity and Body Composition in Postmenopausal Women Study [https://bit.ly/4gvBEKr]  Evaluation of sex-based differences in resistance exercise training-induced changes in muscle mass, strength, and physical performance Study [https://bit.ly/3Vn5Ldj] Changes in body composition and weight during the menopause transition Study [https://bit.ly/41Zb9XH] Association Between Hormone Therapy and Muscle Mass Study [https://bit.ly/4mqhpiB] Longitudinal changes in BMD during perimenopausal transition Study [https://bit.ly/4psoLEZ] BMD Changes During the Menopause Transition Study [https://bit.ly/3Iq1cMh]   [https://bit.ly/3Iq1cMh]Efficacy of Creatine Supplementation Combined with Resistance Training on Muscle Strength and Muscle Mass Study [https://bit.ly/4gLqOAh]  Creatine Supplementation During Resistance Training Does Not Lead to Greater Bone Mineral Density The Vajenda [https://bit.ly/4nAbj07] North American Menopause Society [https://menopause.org/] Dr Lauren Colenso-Semple [https://bit.ly/3I4aail] Professor Susan Davis [https://bit.ly/3Ibv0MJ]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Dr. Sarah Court and Laurel Beversdorf critically evaluate the claims made by YogaU Online about the connections between breathing practices and bone health during a recent promotional webinar for a new workshop called "Breath As Medicine: Yogic Breathing for Vital Aging." They meticulously analyze research studies cited by YogaU, debunking pseudoscientific assertions about nitric oxide production, VO2 max, and the impact of breathing on bone density. The hosts highlight the ethical implications of such misleading information and emphasize the importance of evidence-based practices in the fitness and yoga communities. The discussion also touches on marketing tactics that prey on the fears of older women, underscoring the need for transparency and integrity in health advice. Sign up for the Bone Density Course Interest List here! [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] Movement Logic on Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials] 03:48 Calling Out Pseudoscience 05:19 Yoga U's Dubious Claims 17:47 The Breath as Medicine Workshop 18:39 Debunking the Claims 32:57 Understanding Breathing Pathologies 01:01:56 Lung Function and Bone Mineral Density: A Study Review 01:03:57 Debunking Misleading Claims in Yoga Marketing 01:09:38 Sleep Apnea Studies and Their Misuse 01:17:57 Hypoxia and Bone Health: Misinterpretations 01:23:23 Nitric Oxide and Aging: Separating Fact from Fiction 01:41:02 Cardiovascular Fitness: Misconceptions and Realities 01:50:47 Yoga U's Ethical Dilemma and Call for Accountability 01:59:38 Conclusion and Call to Action References: Episode 5 Does Yoga Asana Build Bone Density? [http://bit.ly/4g9ztMp] Episode 38 Got Bones? Yoga Asana Isn't Enough [https://bit.ly/42emsvd] Episode 79 Make YogaU Make Sense [https://bit.ly/4nh3jkq] Episode 92 Make Dr. Loren Fishman Make Sense [https://bit.ly/4per7aA] Twelve-Minute Daily Yoga Regimen Reverses Osteoporotic Bone Loss [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27226695/] Recognizing and Treating Breathing Disorders: A Multidisciplinary Approach by Leon Chaitow [https://bit.ly/4paaxZg] Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor [https://bit.ly/3V4U62D] Association between lung function and bone mineral density in children and adolescents [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38181285/] Assessment of Bone Mineral Density and Bone Metabolism in Young Men with Obstructive Sleep Apnea [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35842641/] Bone Mineral Density and Changes in Bone Metabolism in Patients with Obstructive Sleep Apnea Syndrome [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26204846/] Hypoxia is a Major Stimulator of Osteoclast Formation and Bone Resorption [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12767036/] Molecular Mechanisms Involved in Hypoxia-Induced Alterations in Bone Remodeling [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35328654/] Front Page Fitness podcast [https://bit.ly/47ofhEe] Yoga Meets Movement Science podcast [https://bit.ly/4m7dSFR]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, we take a hard look at one of our own core messages and ask: does it have to be heavy to build bone? We unpack a landmark systematic review and meta-analysis that compared more than 100 exercise interventions in postmenopausal women, looking at low, moderate, and high intensities across resistance training, impact, and combined programs. We explain the big picture: resistance training works across intensities, moderate intensity often performs just as well as heavy, and impact-only isn't the standalone solution it's often made out to be. We also highlight how few truly high-intensity trials exist, why that matters, and what it means for interpreting the data. Along the way, we reflect on why it's important to update your message when new evidence emerges, and how this research shifts—not our programming, but our language—around lifting heavy. You'll come away with a clearer understanding of what actually builds bone, what the science says (and doesn't yet say), and why there's more than one effective way to get stronger bones. SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] for the Bone Density Course Interest List FOLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] Movement Logic on Instagram 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 09:37 New Research on Exercise Intensity and Bone-Building Exercise for Postmenopausal Women 37:08 About the Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis 52:20 Meta-Analysis Results Overview 54:16 Lumbar Spine Analysis 59:00 Femoral Neck Analysis 01:01:43 Total Hip Analysis 01:02:40 Key Takeaways and Summary 01:04:17 Meta-Regression Insights 01:09:47 Clinical vs. Statistical Significance 01:14:14 Discussion on Bias 01:17:26 Engaging with the Community and Expert Opinions 01:39:46 Debunking Myths About Women and Heavy Lifting 01:40:39 Addressing Misconceptions around Lifting Heavy 01:47:25 Cultural Shifts and Women in Strength Training 02:05:58 Practical Benefits of Heavy Lifting 02:11:44 Final Thoughts REFERENCES: LIFTMOR Trial [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28975661/] and YouTube video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZw_wrFnmI] Kistler-Fischbacher Systematic Review [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33357833/] with Meta-Analysis [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33357834/] 91 [https://tinyurl.com/2hrbxft9]: LIFTMOR, Not Less: An Interview with Professor Belinda Beck Stu Phillips IG page [https://www.instagram.com/mackinprof/]and post [https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIoPi0wMeR8/?igsh=MzF5aWJ1cTB2a3Ix] Korpelainen paper [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15889312/] 100: [https://tinyurl.com/5vs9j54u] The Hidden Cost of "Just Do Something" Fitness Advice
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Dr. Sarah Court explores the fascinating impact of the placebo effect on sports performance and rehabilitation. Dr. Court discusses recent studies, including a unique experiment involving a pink, calorie-free drink that boosted bench press performance among trained lifters. The episode delves into how beliefs and expectations can lead to measurable physiological changes, the historical context of the placebo effect, and its implications in physical therapy and exercise routines. Dr. Court also emphasizes the significance of positive mindsets in overcoming physical challenges and achieving fitness goals. 01:31 The Pink Drink Study: Exploring the Placebo Effect 02:36 Understanding the Placebo Effect 04:03 Historical Context and Research on Placebo 06:02 Detailed Analysis of the Pink Drink Study 10:19 Implications of the Placebo Effect in Exercise 12:08 Placebo Effect in Rehabilitation and Pain Science 14:49 Practical Takeaways for Enhancing Performance 16:49 Mindset and Belief in Physical Therapy 20:25 Encouragement and Final Thoughts Bone Density Course Interest List Sign Up Here [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] Movement Logic on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] References:   The placebo effect of a pink non-caloric, artificially sweetened solution on strength endurance performance and psychological responses in trained individuals [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37608532/] Mouth Rinsing With a Pink Non-caloric, Artificially-Sweetened Solution Improves Self-Paced Running Performance and Feelings of Pleasure in Habitually Active Individuals [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055861/] The Placebo and Nocebo effect on sports performance: A systematic review [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31414966/] Placebo effects on kayak sprint performance in child athletes [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11235916/]
In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel unpacks what warm ups actually do—and why cool downs aren't necessary. She explains how warming up sharpens focus, raises tissue temperature, and primes the nervous system, setting you up to perform better and reduce injury risk. Laurel shares five simple principles for effective warm ups, clears up myths about stretching and "activation," and contrasts them with cool downs, which don't aid recovery or prevent soreness. SIGN UP [https://mailchi.mp/d8a4ba1c59c5/bdcwaitlist] for the Bone Density Course Interest List FOLLLOW [https://www.instagram.com/movementlogictutorials/] Movement Logic on Instagram References: Article [https://www.strongerbyscience.com/heavier-warm-ups/] - (Stronger by Science) Heavier warm-ups are best, new study suggests  Paper [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34025459/] - Systematic Review with Meta Analysis on Cool Downs (Afonso, 2021) Ep. 90 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/90-capacities-for-longevity-part-1-strength/id1614469934?i=1000691327896] - Capacities for Longevity: Strength Ep. 39 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/39-rpe-1-rm-3-sets-of-10-oh-my/id1614469934?i=1000611570074] - RPE, 1 RM, 3 sets of 10, oh my?
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