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Unreal Results for Physical Therapists and Athletic Trainers

Author: Anna Hartman

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The Unreal Results podcast helps physical therapists and certified athletic trainers feel confident and get better outcomes for their clients by teaching about the influence of the viscera organs and the nervous system on human movement, pain, and injury. Explore how a visceral and neural-based lens of view can provide a new perspective to performance-based physical therapy, athletic training, and sports medicine.

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In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack the connection between heart rate, heart rate variability, and the autonomic nervous system and how these measures can give you real-time insight into your clients’ state of regulation. You’ll hear about what heart rate variability and respiratory sinus arrhythmia actually reflect, why vagal tone matters, and how to recognize when someone’s nervous system is stuck in a sympathetic “on” state versus a dorsal vagal “shut down.” I als...
LTAP™ alumni Beth Drayer (athletic trainer in Los Angeles) and Sarah Lane (lymphatic and soft tissue therapist in London) join me to share how the LTAP™ framework completely shifted their practices. Sarah opens up about her own 18-year battle with chronic pain, how the Missing Link training led her to the discovery of fibroids that no one else had identified, and how learning LTAP now helps her guide chronic pain clients out of overwhelm with clarity and confidence. Beth reflects on her decad...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I host a powerful conversation with two LTAP™ alumni, Maria Delliveneri and Sarah Leong-Lopes. Maria shares how she integrated LTAP™ into her private practice in Bend, Oregon, where she specializes in shockwave and laser therapy for older active adults. She reveals how LTAP gave her a way to deliver immediate wins to patients who were discouraged after years of failed treatments, transforming skepticism into motivation.Sarah, a mobile PT in Calif...
In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, I sat down with LTAP™ Level 1 alum and fellow athletic trainer, Jen Tirillo (aka JT the AT), owner of Concentric Care and Wellness in Connecticut. With over 20 years of experience in athletic training, plus certifications in yoga, strength training, and more Jen shares her journey of stepping outside the traditional sports medicine “box” and finding a system that finally made everything click. We talk about: Why she was drawn to LTAP™ after...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I sit down with physical therapist and LTAP™ alum, Greg Moe, to explore how he’s using the LTAP™ framework with a completely different population than my own: older adults. Greg shares his journey from relying on trial-and-error treatments to finding a clear, principle-based system that gives him confidence and helps him stand out in both clinical practice and business. You’ll hear why the LTAP™ has been a game changer for him, not just in restor...
In this live training call from the mini-course: The Missing Link, we build on the foundation from Call #1 and show how to interpret and apply the SI Joint Mobility Locator Test inside real clinical scenarios. What you’ll learn in this replay: Why adding a breath hold to your SI joint test is the missing link that reveals visceral, CNS, or neurovascular drivers.The 3-round protocol for assessment + treatment → reassessment, so you stop chasing symptoms and start peeling back protection patte...
Do you really think 60–80% success rates over 2 weeks to 8 months is successful? I don’t. In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I answer a great question someone recently asked me in the Missing Link Facebook group: what are my success rates? I break down why I think the industry average doesn’t cut it, and why I confidently guarantee results in just 1–3 visits. I also dig into what “success” actually means, why context and nuance matter, and how clarity in assessment can shift outco...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I sit down with physiotherapist and LTAP™ alum, Storm Baynes-Ryan, who brings a whole-human approach to care from her rural practice in Gisborne, New Zealand. Storm shares how stepping away from physiotherapy to raise her four kids shifted her perspective on empathy and the importance of treating people, not just diagnoses. She brings that perspective to powerful case studies of stubborn shoulders, decades-long back pain, and even an old farmer w...
In this special episode of Unreal Results Podcast, I share the replay of Live Training #1 from The Missing Link (Fall 2025). You’ll learn how one change to your assessment—adding a simple breath hold—reveals whether the viscera, CNS, or peripheral neurovascular system is driving a patient’s presentation, so you can stop chasing symptoms and start getting faster, stickier results. What’s inside: Why most clinics plateau at 60–80% success—and how to break that ceiling without overhauling your e...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I take you inside a case study of ulnar nerve entrapment and hand pain - ME! These symptoms are something I’ve dealt with in the past, but after doing a lot of hands-on work with clients recently, they flared up again. So I thought this was the perfect opportunity to share my thought process with you of how I would assess and treat this. I walk you through the history of my symptoms, the classic entrapment sites for the ulnar nerve, and why treat...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I sit down with athletic trainer and LTAP™ alum, Maria DelliVeneri, to explore what it looks like to run a private practice that blends regenerative medicine, shockwave and laser therapy, and whole-body assessment. Maria shares her journey from working in high school and collegiate athletics to serving an older, but still very active, population in Bend, Oregon, and how she’s using LTAP™ to get breakthrough results with some of the most complex c...
What’s the “right” frequency for treatment sessions? Once a week, twice a week, three times? In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack one of the most common questions I get from clinicians: how often should you be scheduling your clients? I share why treatment frequency isn’t black and white, how precision in your assessment changes how often you actually need to see someone, and why constraints like client goals, financial realities, and training demands all shape ...
What if the reason your go-to treatment isn’t working… isn’t because it’s the wrong technique? In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack a question I’ve been sitting with a lot lately: how much do precision and specificity actually matter in treatment? You’ll hear why I believe the right place to treat matters more than the right tool, and why even the most advanced technique can fall flat if it’s not directed by a clear assessment. I share examples from clinical practice and re...
If you’ve ever asked yourself, “Where should I treat first,” this is the episode for you. This episode of the Unreal Results podcast, is all about one of my favorite tools that’s simple to implement and wildly effective at uncovering what’s actually driving pain: inhibition tests. You’ve probably heard me reference inhibition tests in past episodes and today I’m breaking them down into what they are, how they work, and why they can be a game-changer in identifying hidden drivers of pain, mobi...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I unpack how something as small as a single tooth can ripple through the entire nervous system and impact everything from movement quality to emotional regulation. You’ll hear my traumatic dental experience that helped me understand how clenching patterns are tied to much more than the jaw. Clenching isn’t just a bad habit, it’s a signal from the brainstem, often tied to unresolved stress, nervous system dysregulation, and patterns we’re no...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I’m talking all about the spine, not just as a mover or stabilizer, but as one of the body’s most important protectors. You’ll hear why I believe spinal mobility is one of the most underrated keys to vitality, healing, and nervous system regulation. I break down how improving segmental movement in the spine can have cascading effects throughout the body, impacting everything from organ function and cerebrospinal fluid flow to emotional wel...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I dive into the duodenum and how this area can be a powerful lever in your treatment outcomes. You’ll hear why the duodenum can influence everything from hip mobility and lower back pain to breathing mechanics and even emotional states like frustration and anxiety. I break down the anatomy in a clear, practical way to help you understand how the duodenum connects to the lumbar spine, diaphragm, and core function, and why treating it can make such...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I dive into the bronchus, trachea, pleura, and mediastinum, breaking down how these “tubes” influence pain, movement, and posture in ways you might not expect. You’ll hear why addressing the bronchus can help with everything from shoulder and neck pain to foot pain, and why the mediastinum is one of the most powerful areas to assess and treat for whole-body changes. I share practical, immediately applicable insights on how to approach the bronchu...
What happens when you don’t get results in 1–3 visits? In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I get honest about some recent challenging cases and how they’ve affected my confidence and creativity. While I often talk about guaranteeing results in just a few visits, this week is a reminder of what it really means when that doesn’t happen and why that’s not a failure, but a signal to dig deeper. You’ll hear me break down two challenging client cases that pushed me to reassess everything...
In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I’m joined by my friend and Doctor of Physical Therapy, Missy Albrecht. I first connected with Missy through our mutual friend Jill Miller, and I’ve been fascinated by her ability to seamlessly blend visceral and orthopedic approaches in a way that’s both grounded and effective. In this episode, Missy shares how her journey from chronic fatigue and unresolved back pain led her to the transformative power of visceral work. You’ll hear us talk abou...
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