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Theology for the Church aims to provide accessible, theologically rich conversations that have an eye toward applied theology and a heart for the local church. Weekly episodes hosted by Caleb Lenard (DEdMin, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) cover all kinds of topics and themes in Christian doctrine, biblical theology, and Christian formation through engaging interviews with pastors, biblical scholars, and theologians from across the globe.
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by guest, Edward (Mickey) Klink (PhD, University of St. Andrews) senior pastor of Hope Evangelical Free Church in Roscoe, Illinois to discuss his new book, The Beginning and End of All Things: A Biblical Theology of Creation and New Creation. Resources: The Beginning and End of All Things: A Biblical Theology of Creation and New Creation by Edward Klink Reading Genesis Well: Navigating History, Poetry, Science, and Truth in Genesis 1-11 by C. John Collins Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church by N.T. Wright A New Heaven and a New Earth: Reclaiming Biblical Eschatology by J. Richard Middleton
In this episode Caleb is joined by guest, Peter Gentry (PhD, University of Toronto) Distinguished Visiting Professor of Old Testament and Senior Research Fellow of the Text & Canon Institute at Phoenix Seminary and former Old Testament Professor at Southern Seminary (1999–2021) and Toronto Baptist Seminary (1984–1999). Together they discuss the crucial doctrine of the Imago Dei: what does it mean for humanity to be created in the the image and likeness of God? Resources: Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants by Peter Gentry and Steve Wellum Biblical Studies: Volume 1 by Peter Gentry Humanity as the Divine Image in Genesis 1:26–28 by Peter Gentry (CBMW Article)
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Stephen Dempster (PhD, University of Toronto) professor emeritus of religious studies at Crandall University to discuss a theology of the book of Genesis. Together they answer questions like: What is the literary structure of Genesis? What are the main themes found in Genesis? How does Genesis relate to the rest of the Bible? And more. Resources: Dominion and Dynasty: A Theology of the Hebrew Bible by Stephen Dempster Genesis by Derek Kidner Genesis: A Commentary by Bruce Waltke The NIV Application Commentary Genesis by John Walton Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants by Peter Gentry and Steve Wellum From Eden to the New Jerusalem: An Introduction to Biblical Theology by T. Desmond Alexander
In this episode, Caleb is joined by guest, Devon Kauflin (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) who serves as lead pastor at Grace Church in Clarksburg, Maryland and helps lead Sovereign Grace Music. Together they discuss things like: a biblical theology of worship, how to think through structuring gathered worship, ordinary means of grace, and more. Resources: Reformation Worship: Liturgies from the Past for the Present by Jonathan Gibson https://a.co/d/1ri6A1I How Then Should We Worship by Sam Waldron https://a.co/d/9ZFdKyI Corporate Worship: How the Church Gathers as God's People by Matt Merker https://a.co/d/2iMcRjK Sound and Doctrine Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sound-plus-doctrine/id1534597955
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Brandon Crowe (PhD, Edinburgh) professor of New Testament at Westminster Theological Seminary to discuss a biblical theology of covenant and law via Dr. Crowe's recent book, The Path of Faith: A Biblical Theology of Covenant and Law. Resources: The Path of Faith: A Biblical Theology of Covenant and Law by Brandon Crowe https://a.co/d/7t4VyiG The Wonderful Works of God by Herman Bavinck https://a.co/d/bPF2riU A New Testament Biblical Theology: The Unfolding of the Old Testament in the New by Greg Beale https://a.co/d/brO18Cf Biblical Theology: Old and New Testaments by Geerhardus Vos https://a.co/d/hqcRHRx
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Andy Naselli (PhD, Bob Jones University; PhD Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) Professor of Systematic Theology and New Testament at Bethlehem College and Seminary and one of the pastors of The North Church in Minneapolis, MN. Together they discuss a biblical theology of the Sabbath from progressive covenantalist perspective. Resources: 40 Questions About Biblical Theology (*See Andy Naselli's article/chapter on the Sabbath) by Jason DeRouchie, Andy Naselli, and Oren Martin https://a.co/d/ci5nsZX "3 Reasons Sunday Is Not the Christian Sabbath" by Steve Wellum https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/sunday-not-christian-sabbath/ Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies edited by Steve Wellum and Brent Parker (*see Tom Schreiner article/chapter on the Sabbath). https://a.co/d/29WZZxh
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jon English Lee (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Pastor of Discipleship for Morningview Baptist Church in Montgomery, Alabama and a professor at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary to discuss a biblical theology of the Sabbath from a 1689 Federalist/Reformed Baptist perspective. Resources There Remains a Sabbath Rest for the People of God: A Biblical, Theological, and Historical Defense of Sabbath Rest as a Creation Ordinance by Jon English Lee (Forthcoming Spring 2024) The Christian Sabbath: Its Redemptive-Historical Foundation, Present Obligation, and Practical Observance by Robert Martin https://a.co/d/creD8yJ Call the Sabbath a Delight by Walter Chantry https://a.co/d/8wqpqkK
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Joshua Greever (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Associate Professor of New Testament at Bethlehem College and Seminary to discuss a progressive covenantalist perspective on Paul and Moses's law in the Christian life and civil government. Together, they discuss questions like: What is meant by the term "law"? Does Paul use the tripartite division of the law or does he take the law covenant as a unity or entire entity? How does the law apply to Christians today? Does Moses's law apply to civil governments? And more. Resources: "Paul and the Tripartite View of the Law of Moses" by Joshua Greever https://equip.sbts.edu/publications/journals/journal-of-theology/sbjt-261-spring-2022/paul-and-the-tripartite-view-of-the-law-of-moses/ "A Progressive Covenantal Perspective: Paul and the Tripartite Division of Moses’s Law" by Joshua Greever https://www.9marks.org/article/a-progressive-covenantal-perspective-paul-and-the-tripartite-division-of-mosess-law/ "Applying the Law of Moses to the Christian Life" by Joshua Greever https://christoverall.com/article/concise/applying-the-law-of-moses-to-the-christian-life/ Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies edited by Steve Wellum and Brent Parker https://a.co/d/0oH822s Delighting in the Old Testament: Through Christ and for Christ by Jason DeRouchie https://a.co/d/bjYkRCz Paul and the Law: Keeping the Commandments of God by Brian Rosner https://a.co/d/eOX1hmO
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Justin Perdue (MDiv, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary), lead pastor of Covenant Baptist Church (Ashville, North Carolina) and cohost of the Theocast podcast to discuss a confessional Baptist response to how the law of Moses applies to the Christian life today via discussion on: the tripartite division of the law, moral/natural law and positive law, law/gospel distinction as well as a critique of theonomy and Christian reconstructionism. Resources https://theocast.org/ Justin Perdue A 1689 Baptist Perspective: Confessionalism and Theonomy by Justin Perdue https://www.9marks.org/article/a-1689-baptist-perspective-confessionalism-and-theonomy/ The Mystery of Christ, His Covenant, and His Kingdom by Sam Renihan https://a.co/d/gP57srv Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/2B7yomX Modern Marrow Men Podcast by Tom Hicks https://pastortomhicks.com/2022/01/28/how-can-you-listen-to-the-modern-marrow-men-podcast/ The Lost Soul of American Protestantism D.G. Hart https://a.co/d/hnIB18y
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jason DeRouchie (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Professor of Old Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary to discuss a progressive covenantalist perspective on how Christians are to apply the law of Moses today. Together, they discuss questions like: should we view OT law as a unit/single entity or adopt the traditional tripartite division of the law? What laws apply to Christians today and in what ways? How do we read OT law through the lens of Christ's fulfillment of it? How do we interpret individual laws and apply them in the teaching and preaching ministries of the church. And more. Resources Delighting in the Old Testament: Through Christ and for Christ by Jason DeRouchie https://a.co/d/1k9IcQF 40 Questions About Biblical Theology by Jason DeRouchie, Andy Naselli, and Oren Martin https://a.co/d/ex9OVOF How to Understand and Apply the Old Testament: Twelve Steps from Exegesis to Theology by Jason DeRouchie https://a.co/d/8OfSmas Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies edited by Steve Wellum and Brent Parker https://a.co/d/9OUJAnN New Covenant Theology: Description Definition Defense https://a.co/d/cg74Gn8 Five Views on Law and Gospel (edited volume of essays) https://a.co/d/dx3l7d6
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Fred Malone (PhD, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary) retired pastor and Professor of Pastoral Theology at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary to discuss how Christians are to apply the law of Moses in the Christian life today from a 1689 Federalist/Reformed Baptist Perspective. Together they cover the tripartite division (general equity of civil and ceremonial laws, abiding nature of moral law), Christ’s fulfillment of the law, models of sanctification, law/gospel distinction and more. Resources: The True Bounds of Christian Freedom by Samuel Bolton https://a.co/d/bNGafaj The Whole Christ: Legalism, Antinomianism, and Gospel Assurance―Why the Marrow Controversy Still Matters by Sinclair Ferguson https://a.co/d/6oXCRMc Getting the Garden Right: Adam's Work and God's Rest in Light of Christ by Richard Barrcellos https://a.co/d/aNyXCOt The Law and the Gospel by Ernie Reisinger https://a.co/d/5IIWrWI A Treatise on the Law and Gospel https://a.co/d/4RDKzlF God’s Way of Holiness: Growing in Grace by Walking with God by Horatius Bonar https://a.co/d/d9TUlh7
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Daniel Scheiderer (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Senior Pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Chambersburg, PA to compare Baptist covenant theologies: 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism from a 1689 Federalist perspective. Together they discuss questions about theological method, how each system understands the theological and historical covenants, what similarities and differences there are between these two systems, and more. Resources: Comparing Baptist Covenant Theologies by Richard Lucas ⁠https://equip.sbts.edu/publications/the-past-and-future-of-baptist-covenantal-theology-comparing-1689-federalism-and-progressive-covenantalism/⁠ Christ Over All (Long and short form journal articles overviewing PC) ⁠https://christoverall.com/theme/a-primer-on-progressive-covenantalism/⁠ Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants by Stephen Wellum and Peter Gentry ⁠https://a.co/d/2fH7oHt⁠ Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies ⁠https://a.co/d/9EQIqTr⁠ Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture edited by Brent Parker and Richard Lucas ⁠Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture⁠ 40 Questions About Biblical Theology by Jason DeRouchie, Oren Martin, and Andy Naselli ⁠https://a.co/d/aEz0HIS⁠ Covenant Theology: From Adam to Christ by Nehemiah Coxe ⁠https://a.co/d/11VEmhK⁠ The Mystery of Christ, His Covenant, and His Kingdom by Samuel Renihan ⁠https://a.co/d/apIdFdD⁠ The Distinctiveness of Baptist Covenant Theology by Pascal Denault ⁠https://a.co/d/bgnLIAH⁠ 1689 Federalism.com ⁠https://www.1689federalism.com/
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Richard Lucas (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Pastor of Teaching and Reaching at First Baptist Jacksonville to compare Baptist covenant theologies: 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism. Together they discuss questions like: Where did these systems emerge from? How does each system understand the theological and historical covenants? What similarities and differences are their between these two systems? And more. Resources: Comparing Baptist Covenant Theologies by Richard Lucas https://equip.sbts.edu/publications/the-past-and-future-of-baptist-covenantal-theology-comparing-1689-federalism-and-progressive-covenantalism/ Christ Over All (Long and short form journal articles overviewing PC) https://christoverall.com/theme/a-primer-on-progressive-covenantalism/ Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants by Stephen Wellum and Peter Gentry https://a.co/d/2fH7oHt Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies https://a.co/d/9EQIqTr Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture edited by Brent Parker and Richard Lucas Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture 40 Questions About Biblical Theology by Jason DeRouchie, Oren Martin, and Andy Naselli https://a.co/d/aEz0HIS Covenant Theology: From Adam to Christ by Nehemiah Coxe https://a.co/d/11VEmhK The Mystery of Christ, His Covenant, and His Kingdom by Samuel Renihan https://a.co/d/apIdFdD The Distinctiveness of Baptist Covenant Theology by Pascal Denault https://a.co/d/bgnLIAH 1689 Federalism.com https://www.1689federalism.com/
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Constantine Campbell (PhD, Macquarie University) Professor of Biblical Studies and Research Director at Sidney College of Divinity to discuss the doctrine of Union with Christ. Together they discuss questions like: What is union with Christ? How are believers identified with the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Christ? How does God communicates all his blessings of salvation through this union? How does union with Christ and the fact that God personally dwells with believers by means of the Holy Spirit work? How are believers united in community with one another by means of union with Christ? And more. Resources: Paul and Union with Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Study by https://a.co/d/659f7Vj Union with Christ: The Way to Know and Enjoy God by Rankin Wilbourne https://a.co/d/62vD8nu Salvation Applied by the Spirit: Union with Christ by Robert Peterson https://a.co/d/7Tm4zfU Living in Union with Christ by Grant Macaskill https://a.co/d/3u5tQDL
In this episode, Caleb discusses the topic of divine missions with Brandon Smith (PhD, Ridley College) Associate Professor of Theology and Early Christianity at Oklahoma Baptist University. Together they discuss questions like: What are the divine missions? How do the divine missions relate to the divine processions? How do we avoid conflating the inner life of God and the divine economy? How are the divine missions to shape our understanding of the doctrine of salvation and how we share the good news of the gospel with others? How do divine missions relate to the mission of the church today? And more. Resources: The Biblical Trinity: Encountering the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Scripture by Brandon Smith https://a.co/d/02HpddU The Trinity in the Canon: A Biblical, Theological, Historical, and Practical Proposal by Brandon Smith https://a.co/d/4edb4Gs Delighting in the Trinity by Michael Reeves https://a.co/d/2pKklKk The Trinity: An Introduction by Scott Swain https://a.co/d/gZTze3P On the Incarnation: Saint Athanasius https://a.co/d/bBf0CI4 On God and Christ by Gregory of Nazianzus https://a.co/d/1umguYS Learning Theology with the Church Fathers by Christopher Hall https://a.co/d/64M2TpZ
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Shawn Wilhite (PhD, Durham University; PhD, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Associate Professor of Christian Ministries at California Baptist University to discuss the relationship between theology and exegesis in the interpretation of Scripture. How does Scripture speak of the Triune God and the two-natured Christ and what does creedal orthodoxy have to do with biblical interpretation? And why does it matter for the church today? Listen to find out! Resources Biblical Reasoning: Christological and Trinitarian Rules for Exegesis by Tyler Wittman and Bobby Jamieson https://a.co/d/8DLbQz5 Interpreting Scripture with the Great Tradition: Recovering the Genius of Premodern Exegesis https://a.co/d/47N1TVq The Trinity by Donald Fairbairn https://a.co/d/gsVq7x5 The Trinity: An Introduction by Scott Swain https://a.co/d/47N1TVq Trinitarian Dogmatics: Exploring the Grammar of the Christian Doctrine of God by Glenn Butner https://a.co/d/6EpdXfS Simply God: Recovering The Classical Trinity by Peter Sanlon https://a.co/d/019S6ed On the Incarnation by Athanasiushttps://a.co/d/biQa8ER Five Theological Orations: Christian Classics Series by Gregory of Nazianzus https://a.co/d/eW3OeKd On the Unity of Christ (Popular Patristics) by Cyril of Alexandria https://a.co/d/0t5VPXs
In this episode, Caleb discuses the theology of John's gospel account with Andreas Köstenberger (PhD, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) a retired professor of New Testament and biblical theology for over 25 years and leading scholar on the gospel John. Together they discuss things like: the structure, main themes, key passages, and application for today. Resources Encountering John: The Gospel in Historical, Literary, and Theological Perspective by Andreas Köstenberger https://a.co/d/2zOTx1K A Theology of John's Gospel and Letters: The Word, the Christ, the Son of God by Andreas Köstenberger https://a.co/d/4ZBljX8 John: A Commentary by Andreas Köstenberger (*free) https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/commentary/john/ Biblical Theology: A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach by Andreas Köstenberger and Gregory Goswell https://a.co/d/j5eHPoa Signs of the Messiah: An Introduction to John’s Gospel Signs of the Messiah: An Introduction to John’s Gospel https://a.co/d/9ipKvT8
In this episode Caleb talks with Matthew Emerson (PhD, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary) Dean of Theology at Oklahoma Baptist University about the Center for Baptist Renewal. Together they discuss the mission, vision, and work taking place at CBR and how local churches can benefit from their efforts. Resources https://www.centerforbaptistrenewal.com/
In this episode, Caleb is joined by David Haines (PhD, Université Laval) Assistant Professor of Theology and Philosophy at Bethlehem College and Seminary to discuss the topic of Natural Theology. Together they discuss questions like: What is natural theology? How does it relate to other theological disciplines like systematic and biblical theology? How does is relate to natural law? What exactly does it tell us about God and his creation? What use does it have for apologetics? And more. Resources Natural Theology: A Biblical and Historical Introduction and Defense by David Haines https://a.co/d/5mU5Zlv Natural Law: A Brief Introduction and Biblical Defense by David Haines and Andrew Fulford https://a.co/d/733L8Fs Natural Law: A Short Companion by David Van Drunen https://a.co/d/7aX3Q4Q Wisdom in the Face of Modernity: A Study in Thomistic Natural Theology by Thomas Joseph White https://a.co/d/1EUNsni Biblical Faith and Natural Theology: The Gifford Lectures for 1991 Delivered in the University of Edinburgh by https://a.co/d/ccXufBo Reforming Apologetics: Retrieving the Classic Reformed Approach to Defending the Faith by J.V. Fesko https://a.co/d/cVbZD4R
In this episode, Caleb discusses the topic of how to apply scriptural truth and biblical teaching to everyday life with Dan Doriani (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Covenant Theological Seminary. Together they discuss a framework for applying Scripture to everyday life, as well as what that looks like in various contexts such as preaching/teaching, small groups, or during personal devotions. Resources: Putting the Truth to Work: The Theory and Practice of Biblical Application by Dan Doriani https://a.co/d/bifes7O Getting the Message: A Plan for Interpreting and Applying the Bible by Dan Doriani https://a.co/d/cuZS3aA Applying Scripture (Short Article) by Dan Doriani Preaching: Communicating Faith in an Age of Skepticism by Tim Keller https://a.co/d/0vizSgP Reading the Gospels Wisely: A Narrative and Theological Introduction by Jonathan Pennington https://a.co/d/8yuDxHB The Cross of Christ by John Stott https://a.co/d/g1CRMJ4
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