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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen.
Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen.
Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
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In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie discuss how anxiety and depression commonly show up in CIRS, and why these symptoms are often driven by biology and NOT personal weakness. Brain and body inflammation can disrupt neurotransmitters, increase inflammatory cytokines, affect mood regulation, and contribute to blood-brain barrier dysfunction and limbic system hypervigilance, leading to depression, anxiety, cognitive issues, and difficulty word-finding. They share personal experiences with OCD, suicidal ideation, and severe anxiety. They emphasize a “bottom-up” approach (reducing inflammation, treating CIRS/co-infections, addressing environment and exposures like mold) alongside “top-down” supports (therapy, limbic retraining, and community), noting therapy may be less effective without addressing root inflammation. They also highlight how mood improves with treatment, and suggest support options including The CIRS Group community and small group coaching through Untamed Iona (Dr. Lauren Sparks and Dr. Brenda Stewart). Check out our helpful links below the time stamps.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Anxiety & Depression in CIRS: Intro + Disclaimer
01:48 What is CIRS? and why mental health symptoms aren’t your fault
02:49 Top-Down vs Bottom-Up Healing (Therapy vs Treating Inflammation)
05:07 Let's talk biology: brain inflammation, neurotransmitters & mood
06:24 Our stories: suicidal ideation, hypervigilance & tick-borne triggers
10:23 Blood-Brain barrier + limbic system: why you feel stuck in "threat mode"
12:42 The Moldy Doc: snowball effect + hope through treatment
14:38 Support Options: therapy, support groups, limbic retraining + resources
16:48 Wrap-Up: Calming the alarm + Finding the right order of healing for YOU
18:54 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Moldy Doc: https://moldymovie.com/
Untamed Iona's support groups: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie talk about the prevalence of Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Despite being relatively unknown, CIRS is not rare; It affects approximately 25% of the population due to genetic susceptibility. They discuss the reasons behind the lack of awareness in conventional medicine, from underdiagnosis and nonspecific symptoms, to larger systemic issues with the medical industry and lack of awareness around mold. This episode highlights who should consider CIRS, the symptoms to look out for, and the steps to diagnosis and treatment. With a mix of personal insights and factual information, this episode aims to arm listeners with the knowledge to make informed decisions about their health. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer
00:36 What is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)?
01:36 Why don't people take mold seriously?
02:55 Why it's difficult to diagnose CIRS
05:22 Prevalence of CIRS and Genetic Susceptibility
10:11 Exposure sources and triggers for illness
11:22 Common misconceptions and normalization, rationalization
15:24 Who should consider CIRS as a potential diagnosis?
19:31 Conclusion and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS
What even is CIRS? episode: https://youtu.be/K-rztn5x7_w?si=kbmVdeVXx8mLLWu7
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this informative episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Anjali Noble to discuss the complexities of perimenopause, menopause, and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Noble, founder of the Noble Center for Health and Healing, shares insights on perimenopause and menopause, potential treatments and ways to support the transition, and how CIRS may complicate this natural process. Viewers are advised to consult their own healthcare providers for personalized medical advice.
Dr. Noble emphasizes the importance of addressing stress, improving gut health, and testing/tracking before employing hormone replacement strategies. Tune in for a deep dive into menopause, its symptoms, and what to look for in a doctor and treatment in order to manage it effectively and safely. To work with Dr. Noble, visit her website at https://drnoble.com
For more CIRS information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:56 What is menopause?
04:32 Hormonal changes and symptoms of perimenopause
07:00 What happens with menopause, or when you hit estrogen depletion?
07:50 What are menopause symptoms and how long do they last?
10:50 Definition of perimenopause
11:55 CIRS vs menopause
17:02 Treatment recommendations for dealing with menopause
18:40 Dangers of pellets as a menopause treatment
21:45 Deal with stress first, adrenal support, then look at hormones
25:30 Lifestyle changes: gut health, methylation, detox
30:00 GLP-1s
31:29 How to work with Dr. Noble
34:30 Outro
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:
Dr. Anjali Noble's informational website: https://dranjalinoble.com/
Work with Dr. Anjali Noble: https://drnoble.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explain what Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) is, how to get diagnosed, and how to treat it. They cover sources of biotoxin exposure that can make you sick and what kind of binders work best for these toxins. Jacie and Barbara also discuss the importance of genetic predisposition, the diagnostic criteria, and testing you can do, including visual contrast sensitivity tests and relevant blood markers. They'll also cover the Shoemaker Protocol for treatment, and acknowledge that many of us need to treat co-infections and other long term damage for complete recovery. This episode aims to empower listeners with the knowledge to seek appropriate treatment and navigate this chronic illness effectively.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
01:09 What is CIRS?
01:32 Common sources of biotoxins that can make you sick
06:01 How CIRS causes inflammation and multiple symptoms
08:10 Why most doctors miss CIRS
09:47 Common ways CIRS is misdiagnosed
11:00 The CIRS Symptom Clusters, and how to get diagnosed with CIRS
16:25 Treating CIRS
20:07 Side Quests (co-infections, damage repair) in CIRS recovery
22:00 We hope you find healing!
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:
Our episode on the Symptom Clusters: https://youtu.be/RyKff3TWBZo
VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening
Our episode on which bloodmarkers to test: https://youtu.be/XMtbxLLZzaU
Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test
Our CIRS vs Mold Illness episode: https://youtu.be/ZlYoAcV7uUo
Shoemaker Protocol research:
https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf
https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf
Our episode on the right CIRS Binders: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explore the connection between Hashimoto's disease and chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS). They dive into the importance of early diagnosis, crucial blood tests, and the differences between conventional and functional treatments. The episode also includes personal anecdotes and practical tips for managing thyroid health, touching on topics like diet, stress management, and the significance of tracking symptoms.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer
00:26 Continuing our autoimmune series
00:51 Understanding Hashimoto's Disease
02:40 Symptoms and diagnosis of Hashimoto's
07:50 Hashimoto's causes and triggers
12:29 Treatment Options
13:27 Symptom management with lifestyle changes
18:31 Tracking and monitoring your health
21:43 Community Support
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the complex topic of working out while dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the challenges, benefits, and strategies for maintaining a workout routine despite the debilitating symptoms that CIRS can cause, such as fatigue, joint pain, and hypometabolism. Listeners are advised to consult their healthcare practitioners for personalized advice. Additional insights include using AI for creating custom workout plans, tracking progress, and when to hire a professional to help you. Tune in for practical advice, personal experiences, and motivation to help you navigate your fitness journey alongside CIRS.
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer
01:23 How CIRS affects your ability to exercise
02:32 Benefits of exercise during CIRS treatment
04:36 Slowly ramp up exercise to avoid Push and Crash
07:07 Using AI and professional help for fitness plans
08:15 How Barbara got back into exercise after surgery
10:20 Getting started is the hardest part
12:17 Tracking progress, using apps or AI, and when to hire a coach
16:08 The best workout to do is the one you'll actually do and enjoy!
17:37 Everyone is different!
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS!
Dr. Stuart McGill's website: https://www.backfitpro.com/
Barbara's PT that built her post-surgery workout program: https://www.d1physicaltherapy.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS
03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS
04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't
06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols
07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols
11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis
13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs
16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment
19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment
22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors
23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test
Our episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOk
MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits
Study showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Join us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
It's the last 2025 episode of The CIRS Group podcast! Hosts Jacie and Barbara share their exciting plans for 2026, including upgrades in podcast quality, fun new merchandise, and including more expert-led classes within the membership. They also talk about personal updates, including Barbara's upcoming wedding and health treatments, and Jacie's insights on nervous system regulation. Join the conversation about their goals for the new year by commenting below what YOU want to see in 2026 from TCG. The CIRS Group plans to continue providing valuable resources and support, so thank you for watching and supporting this channel!
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
00:30 Poop talk
01:41 Improved production quality and content!
03:13 Transcripts, Printables, worksheets, and more!
04:19 Merchandise! Want some merch?
05:42 Expert Workshops and CIRS Group membership benefits
07:48 Email newsletters and Q&A webinars
09:35 CIRSx 2026
11:13 Barbara's personal updates and 2026 plans
15:00 Jacie's personal updates and 2026 plans
15:56 Nervous System Regulation insights
17:02 Jacie's word for the year: Stewardship
20:36 Final thoughts and encouragement
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Please note: we filmed this back in November, and moved some episodes around - any comments about the CIRS Summit are a bit out of date, but you can still watch the replays by visiting https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
In this special episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie answer a variety of questions during a live, recorded Q&A webinar. Topics discussed include identifying whether you have CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome), the Shoemaker treatment protocol, managing symptoms, dietary changes, and the effectiveness of different binders. They also cover secondary topics like dealing with Lyme disease and tick borne illness, experiencing muscle weakness, and incorporating therapies like cranial sacral and lymphatic drainage for better detox. A must-watch for anyone navigating the complexities of CIRS and seeking expert advice on the path to healing.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and Disclaimer
03:01 How do I know if I have CIRS?
07:19 Can I heal on a low dose of welchol?
08:27 Why utilizing a CIRS literate doctor is important
10:00 Tips to poop regularly when taking binders
12:20 How to know when VIP treatment has worked
14:54 Who gets CIRS? What causes CIRS?
16:17 How to manage histamine responses to food
19:43 Addressing Co-Infections: Lyme and Bartonella
24:14 How long does it take to heal?
27:48 Gall Bladder issues in CIRS patients
29:01 MARCoNs Test: Can You Do It Yourself?
29:44 Challenges with binders and intensification or herx reactions
31:56 Binders and The Paper Towel metaphor
33:16 Join the CIRS Group Community
34:37 Addressing full ileostomy concerns
36:37 Muscle weakness and how to build strength
40:51 When to incorporate VIP treatment for neuroinflammation
44:29 Cranial Sacral and Lymphatic Drainage Therapy
50:39 Gut Pain - should I try VIP? Or work with Dr. Lacey
53:51 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:
CIRS Summit: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
Find a Shoemaker Certified practitioner or coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners
https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
Interview with Dr. Lacey re: GI issues: https://youtu.be/baldT8N7nl4?si=TjgkHXmG8J9psKRQ
Interview with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres re: Neuroquant MRIs: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM?si=LtVBCRRicVbVKLgS
Order MARCoNs testing: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits
Dr. April's website for cranial manipulation: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/
Work with Dr. Lacey on gut issues: https://www.drlacey.org/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Join Jacie and Barbara for a cozy holiday episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as they share their favorite gift ideas for the chronic illness community. From simple stocking stuffers to big-ticket wellness upgrades, they walk through options at every price point so you can find something thoughtful—whether you're shopping on a tight budget or going all-out.
You’ll hear practical picks like Epsom salts and blue-light–blocking glasses, mid-range tools that make daily life easier, and even a few dream splurges like an infrared sauna. They also talk about the gifts that cost nothing at all—acts of service, support, and presence—because those often matter the most.
Settle in and gather inspiration for meaningful gifts that can brighten the season for the CIRS or chronic illness warrior in your life.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast
00:51 – Under $25: Budget-Friendly Gift Ideas
03:12 – $25–$75: Everyday Wellness Upgrades
06:26 – $75–$150: Mid-Tier Health Investments
09:32 – $150–$400: High-End Health Gifts
13:21 – Splurge Gifts: Over $400
15:59 – Non-Monetary Gifts & Acts of Service
17:42 – Closing Thoughts & Holiday Wishes
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com I
nstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Register for The CIRS Summit 2025! It's free! https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interviews on a wide range of topics related to CIRS. From environmental biotoxins and brain health, to legal advice and family dynamics, there is something for everyone. We'll also talk more about how to register for the event, access replays, and contribute to CIRS research. Check out the timestamps to see who's speaking, and register here: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
TIMESTAMPS
00:01 The CIRS Summit 2025
01:20 This year's Summit is new and improved!
02:57 Register for the CIRS Summit
03:39 Summary of all the scheduled talks! and Disclaimer
03:58 Dr Ritchie Shoemaker - Lessons for Tomorrow from Lessons in the Past
04:33 Dr. Jennifer Smith - Complex Family Systems in CIRS
05:26 Max McCord - Diagnosing the Root Cause of Environmental Biotoxins
06:19 Dr. Andrea Jordheim - How to Improve Your Brain’s Cleaning and Repair System in CIRS
07:35 Mindy Mastruserio - Reclaiming Agency in CIRS: Healing the Self Beyond the Protocol
09:10 Dr. Christian Navarro Torres - How the Latest Nasal Swab Testing Can Help You Heal
10:00 Dr. Paula Kruppstadt - A Perspective on CIRS, Autism and PANS/PANDAS from a Functional Medicine Pediatrician
10:58 Dr. Lacey Venanzi - Are you Celiac or just gluten sensitive?
12:04 Julie Helm - From Reset to Regeneration: Bridging the Shoemaker Protocol to the Bredesen Protocol
13:00 Ian Siegel - How Giftedness Becomes a Curse in a Moldy School
13:55 Louise Carder - the Leptin Connection: Satiety, Signaling and Healing
15:00 Dr. Stacey McLure - Understanding the Skin Barrier: Structure, Function and Care
15:49 Ryan Schnack - How to Build A Strong Legal Case for CIRS
16:40 Dr. April Vukelic - Tips for Managing Back and Joint Pain with CIRS
19:20 Justin Carlson - New Tools for Living Safely with CIRS: Mold Map, Find a Mold Doctor and Aerlume
22:25 Final Thoughts and how to watch for free or get the replays
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why professional help is crucial for CIRS patients. He discusses his experience inspecting buildings for water damage and intrusion, the importance of hiring a certified IEP, and provides practical tips for dealing with home contents after mold contamination. Whether you're in need of understanding your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing results, or just want practical advice on making your home as clean and safe as possible, this episode covers it all. Tune in to gain valuable insights and ensure your living environment is safe and healthy.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:33 Meet Bill Weber: Indoor Environmental Professional
03:20 Bill's favorite testing methods for mold
05:30 Understanding Mold Analysis: ERMI dust tests vs Culture tests
08:30 When to choose an ERMI dust test vs culturing
10:11 Fun fact about the first four mold types on the ERMI
11:50 Why it's so important to hire an IEP for your home
12:54 Context of climate in assessing your home
14:48 Can you interpret your own ERMI without an IEP?
19:06 Actinomycetes bacteria and endotoxin testing
22:11 Tips for collecting dust samples
26:27 Understanding the nuance and context when interpreting the data
31:30 Educating more professionals on remediating properly
34:15 Choosing to clean or throw away personal property
39:09 How to work with Bill Weber
HELPFUL LINKS:
Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/
CIRSx Courses for remediators, indoor environmental professionals, and home owners:
Medically Important Remediation for Professionals: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101
Introduction to Medically Important Assessment 101: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia101
Deeper Exploration of Medically Important Assessment 102: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia102
Bill Weber's CIRSx talk about mold testing: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222?video=955676414
Bill Weber and Michael Schrantz's CIRSx talk about inspecting a convent:
Part one: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856185993
Part two: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856244891
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the importance of accurate diagnosis and effective treatment (The Shoemaker Protocol). They delve into the scientific foundation of CIRS, the role of genetics, and the significance of environmental triggers. The episode aims to raise awareness about CIRS, offer guidance on diagnosis and treatment options, and share personal insights into managing chronic illness. This is NOT medical advice, please consult a CIRS-literate doctor for diagnosis and treatment. For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
00:00 Introduction
01:03 Who we are, and what is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)
02:20 Disclaimer and why we are commenting on Mikayla Matthews
03:50 What is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
05:00 Trigger Warning, opportunity to raise awareness
05:40 Mikayla Matthews' childhood and history of exposure
07:20 The CIRS and Eczema connection
08:03 Understanding CIRS and its symptoms
10:00 Her father's Parkinson's and the genetic factor in CIRS
13:11 Link between CIRS and neurodegenerative diseases
18:05 How trauma and abuse triggers chronic illness like CIRS
23:10 Mikayla's symptoms: eczema, allergies, mollescum, candida, anxiety, pain, vertigo
28:00 Labwork to order when you have Eczema: a-MSH, VEGF, MMP9
33:20 How to get a CIRS Diagnosis: symptoms and tests
42:09 Why therapies Mikayla Matthews tried but didn't work
45:50 Why urinary mycotoxin tests don't work
49:17 Why specific binders are key to healing from mold illness or CIRS
53:04 How to test your home for mold
57:00 CIRS can allow other infections to take hold
58:00 How to find a doctor to help you heal
59:05 You CAN heal with the right treatment protocol (Shoemaker)
For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Work with Dr. Christian Navarro Torres: https://www.cirslab.com/
This episode is a reaction to the podcast interview Mikayla did re: her childhood/history: https://youtu.be/csQJIaNht6A?si=jZyHlzcU3a4cV_bq
HELPFUL LINKS:
How to check if a CIRS diagnosis is the answer to your chronic health issues:
Symptom Clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIsxBShy0bd/
VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening
HLA DR Genetic Test: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test
Dust test your home for mold: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/
Dust test your home for endotoxins (poop): https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/
Dust test your home for actino bacteria: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/
Find a Shoemaker certified doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol
Published research to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf
Published research on the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf
What is CIRS?: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/blog/what-is-cirs/
Our "What is CIRS?" podcast episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg
Learn more about the Brain MRI called the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM
Join The CIRS Group community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season
02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays
04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo
07:10 Set expectations and boundaries
09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions
09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations
12:00 Eat before you go
13:26 Offering alternatives
14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics
16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions
19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking
24:33 The Importance of Boundaries
26:23 Community Support
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report!
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIME STAMPS
00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres
02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED!
03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant
06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant
10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have?
12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version
17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research
19:36 How you can support CIRS Research
20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips!
28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members
How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres:
thecirslab@gmail.com
https://www.cirslab.com/
Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_
Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeuj
The CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/
The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified!
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr and others, his symptoms, the treatments he attempted, and the strong possibility that he may be overlooking the Shoemaker Protocol for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Many people suffer with CIRS and think they're treating it properly, but unfortunately many doctors are not educated on the most efficient and research-backed approach, so hopefully this episode helps spread more awareness. This is not medical advice, please consult with a doctor - especially a Shoemaker certified practitioner - to decide the best treatment for you.
If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Here's the link to the video we're reacting to today: https://youtu.be/IU4D_kjty2k?si=pJTJCkKaWP0wcaSd
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer
01:34 Who is Chris Williamson?
03:03 Health challenges hit everyone, even when you're rich and famous
07:00 Chris' symptoms and diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr
8:55 Lyme or CIRS? or BOTH?
10:30 What is CIRS?
11:45 What Chris tried but didn't work
13:44 Why the RIGHT binders matter to get better
17:34 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis
18:46 Why we talk about the Shoemaker Protocol
20:42 "You're just stressed, you need rest"
23:44 "You have a million problems until you have one of them"
24:55 A unique male perspective on CIRS
HELPFUL LINKS:
Our "What is CIRS?" episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=20xZ5AdP2tDqL1Q2
Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne illness and CIRS: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=Xc7dhc39rLFE99kZ
Our other episode on treating tick borne illness, including Lyme: https://youtu.be/3XyjE2BJvjM?si=SCf85207ricG2n7c
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveitis, reactive arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Jacie shares a detailed account of her rapid symptom progression and how treatment for CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) brought her significant relief. The episode highlights the overlap between CIRS and autoimmune conditions, emphasizing the importance of addressing environmental toxins for effective treatment.
For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer
01:24 Understanding HLA-B27 and it's connection to autoimmune conditions
03:29 Jacie's experience with Ankylosing Spondylitis
6:50 America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys reference to AS
8:03 The connection of arthritis and eyeballs
8:40 Triggers and progression of Ankylosing Spondylitis
11:42 Treatment and Management for Ankylosing Spondylitis
12:35 Interesting connection to Klebsiella
13:25 How CIRS treatment cured Jacie's AS
16:11 Overlap between HLA-B27 and CIRS
19:00 Conclusion and Encouragement
HELPFUL LINKS:
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into practical tips and resources for maintaining a safe and healthy living or workspace. They cover important aspects including managing humidity levels, choosing a home location, working with landlords, utilizing air purifiers, and regular small particle cleaning. The episode also touches on avoiding environmental issues like endotoxins, actinomycetes, & mold. Please note the importance of consulting with a professional for personalized advice and further assistance. Hopefully these actionable steps help you keep your space safe and healthy!
For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:26 What to look for in a new location and unit
04:13 Humidity Control Tips
06:22 Leak prevention tips and management
08:45 Air Purifiers and Return Air / HVAC Filters
12:13 Preventing sewer gas leaks (endotoxins, aka poop!)
16:37 Small Particle Cleaning to lower actinos
20:52 Handling Mycotoxins and Mold
23:39 Conclusion and Additional Resources
HELPFUL LINKS!
Our past episode on renting with CIRS: https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=6tfF4ixs5dG0fsI3
Hydrometers on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hVz6Jgb
Leak alarms on amazon: https://a.co/d/0v3oCTT
Leak tray for under sinks: https://a.co/d/dQNnClA
IEP Radio episode w/the owner of Air Oasis air filters: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=sbERp6gCZ4c-nJDf
Our "You're leaking, now what?" episode: https://youtu.be/yfnTLvfbuv8?si=4nMso-NeFLm2bC1N
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara are joined by Dr. Lacey Venanzi, a functional medicine practitioner who specializes in treating CIRS and gut dysfunction. Dr. Lacey discusses her insights on the gut microbiome, its connection to chronic illnesses, and how the immune system plays a major role. They explore various testing methods for gut health, the implications of common symptoms, and the importance of maintaining good bacteria in the body. Dr. Lacey also shares her strategies for supporting the microbiome and emphasizes the significance of sunlight and proper blue light management for overall health recovery. The session is filled with valuable information for anyone struggling with gut health issues, offering practical steps and considerations for both patients and practitioners.
To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer
01:08 Start of the interview with Dr. Lacey Interview
02:48 Why is gut dysbiosis so common with CIRS?
03:18 Immune Dysregulation and Gut Health
05:22 Problems with culture-based gut tests
08:50 Comparing the gut tests and Dr. Lacey's favorites
10:10 Reasons you may want a culturing test
11:00 Intestinal Permeability Test
13:49 When should you test your gut health?
15:45 The misconceptions about MCAS and histamine issues
17:28 The issue with normalizing common GI problems
20:00 Sleep Apnea, hormone imbalances, and testing for co-infections
23:00 Blue Light as a carcinogen
23:48 Raising MSH & the Importance of Sunlight
27:52 What does a healthy GI system even look like?
31:07 Signs of Parasites: cravings and always being hungry
32:49 How to Work with Dr. Lacey
34:01 Additional resources for learning about gut health
34:40 Preserving the host (the patient) as a method to eliminate the infection
37:20 Jacie's experience with AS and reasonable expectations for healing
43:00 The dangers of essential oils
45:31 HLA Disorders and CIRS
46:28 Don't assume: Test!
HELPFUL LINKS!
To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/
Our CIRSx 2025 recap of Dr. Lacey's talk: https://youtu.be/hqqluZl28TY?si=s_M3xivsMhUmwmMJ&t=1403
Dr. Lacey's favorite gut tests (DNA sequencing tests) below:
Nirvana Biome: https://www.nirvanabiome.com/
Tiny Health: https://www.tinyhealth.com/
Ombre: https://www.ombrelab.com/products/ombre-gut-health-test
Resource Dr. Lacey recommended: https://www.probioticadvisor.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara dive into the autoimmune condition known as Alopecia Areata. You may be familiar with it because of Jada Pinkett Smith (and the slap heard round the world) or more recently because of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Armani Latimer's brave story on the second season of the Netflix docuseries, America's Sweethearts. Today, we'll cover those stories and Barbara will share her journey with the condition as well. They'll also explore what Alopecia Areata is, as well as its triggers, symptoms, and the connection to Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They also touch on treatment options, genetic predispositions, and related autoimmune conditions. Tune in to learn more about managing this rare condition and how it may relate to other health issues.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast
00:24 Introduction and medical disclaimer
00:48 Barbara's Personal Experience with Alopecia
02:11 Alopecia in the Media
05:24 What is Alopecia Areata?
07:15 Barbara's alopecia areata timeline
08:56 Causes and Triggers of Alopecia
10:50 What Alopecia Areata is NOT
12:06 Prevalence and levels of severity of Alopecia
14:40 Risk factors for Alopecia
16:48 Treatment Options for Alopecia
19:48 Connecting autoimmune illnesses and CIRS
22:29 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.



