The CIRS Group Podcast

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Jacie and Barbara discuss why unlimited money and access to extreme treatments doesn’t usually lead to better or faster healing. Wealth can remove “financial friction,” which inadvertently encourages fear-based, urgent, and uncoordinated decision-making, including fringe or unregulated therapies, constant protocol switching, and symptom-focused biohacking without tracking or testing. They emphasize the importance of strategy, sequencing, and objective measurement, highlighting the Shoemaker Protocol as a foundational, ordered approach for CIRS treatment. They'll also cover how you can evaluate treatments and doctors, and why discernment and thoughtful pacing often matter more than money. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Timestamps 00:00 Intro, let's talk about money 03:33 Does more money mean worse health decisions? 04:22 Acknowledging the difficulty of healing without income 06:04 Sick and Wealthy Psychology Trap 08:51 Real world example of wealthy patient acting recklessly 12:40 Track results, not hype 14:31 There's not one miracle cure for chronic illness 16:00 Timing matters 17:51 Middle class advantages 19:35 How to determine the best treatment and doctor for you 22:40 What makes a great doctor 25:09 Discernment can be greater than money 25:52 Wrap up and encouragement For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Watch our first reaction video to Chris Williamson's health updates: https://youtu.be/5uTs5B6ySHQ?si=qLdsrLLbzmWkiOWK Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie explain why people with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) or mold illness should test their home (and workplaces) and when. They'll dig into why multiple tests are better to understand the full picture rather than relying on a single score, and recommend working with an IEP (Indoor Environmental Professional) for interpretation and creating an action plan. They cover MSQPCR dust testing (ERMI/HERTSMI-2), best sampling practices, testing per room/floor, separate testing for basements/crawl spaces/attics, and using an outdoor control sample as well. They discuss why the mold species matter, where to get tests (LisBiotech), and some other methods your IEP may use to test your home: spore traps/air sampling, tape lifts, swabs, bulk sampling, and cultures. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Timestamps 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:43 Why should you test your home? 02:20 When should you test your home? 04:09 Side note about testing for mold, actinos and endotoxins 05:19 MSQPCR Dust Testing: ERMI, HERTSMI-2 08:26 How to interpret your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 results 11:06 Where to get MSQPCR dust tests 13:15 When should you hire an Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) 14:36 Other methods of testing: Air Sampling 16:52 Tape Lift testing 18:34 Swab testing 19:09 Bulk Sampling 21:31 Culturable testing 23:21 Next Steps: vetting professional help 25:48 Retest during and after remediation For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS: Order your dust testing: https://lisbiotech.com/ Our interview with Bill Weber: https://youtu.be/RlKjTqVAeNU?si=9VZ4RnafI6Gx2QRp Our interview with Michael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/_BEwFVdpRcY?si=kmMrR9lPBgffrFND The CIRSx course for Medically Important Remediation: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101 Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Jacie and Barbara discuss how CIRS commonly affects body weight: often causing weight gain and resistance to fat loss, though some people experience extreme weight loss. They'll dig into why weight changes are driven by chronic, multi-system inflammation from biotoxin exposure (such as mold or Lyme), impacting hormones, metabolism, detox pathways, the brain, and the nervous system. It’s not simply “calories in, calories out,” and listeners are encouraged to stop blaming themselves. Key contributors to weight gain include elevated cortisol, hormone disruption (leptin resistance, insulin resistance, altered thyroid signaling even with normal labs, and sex hormone imbalance), nervous system stuck in survival mode, why calorie restriction can reinforce danger signals, and how toxin storage in fat tissue can slow fat loss during detox. They emphasize supportive strategies aligned with the Shoemaker protocol: reduce exposure, calm inflammation, use binders and support detox (including daily bowel movements, sleep, gentle movement, sweating, and lymphatic support), prioritize blood sugar stability, eat adequate protein, sleep, and nervous system regulation. They caution that trying harder through calorie restriction, excessive cardio, and weight cycling can worsen stress signals, and raise concerns about GLP-1s. Focus on healing first: weight often shifts as a side effect of recovery. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Why weight changes are so common with CIRS 01:00 Medical Disclaimer 01:13 Body image issues and bloating: Be comfy and buy clothes that fit 02:12 Inflammation, genetics, leptin, and why it’s not just about calories 05:38 How CIRS causes weight gain: Cortisol, Hormones, and Survival Mode 10:45 Detox, fat storage & the unsexy truth: You’ve gotta poop! 12:11 Sleep, NEAT/BMR, and Exercise: Finding the Right Dose While Healing 15:02 Why “Trying Harder” Backfires: Dieting, Cardio, Weight Cycling & GLP-1s 17:32 Step-by-Step: Heal First to Lose Weight (Reduce Exposure, Detox, Protein, Sleep) 21:21 Real-Life Results, Encouragement, and Where to Get Support For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS Hashimoto's episode: https://youtu.be/EpmdvcBbsi4?si=Yxq0_lCaW-bXy2Dx Workout episode: https://youtu.be/69Weo6s1FAQ?si=IqJbBdo_upKtTxOJ Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie discuss how anxiety and depression commonly show up in CIRS, and why these symptoms are often driven by biology and NOT personal weakness. Brain and body inflammation can disrupt neurotransmitters, increase inflammatory cytokines, affect mood regulation, and contribute to blood-brain barrier dysfunction and limbic system hypervigilance, leading to depression, anxiety, cognitive issues, and difficulty word-finding. They share personal experiences with OCD, suicidal ideation, and severe anxiety. They emphasize a “bottom-up” approach (reducing inflammation, treating CIRS/co-infections, addressing environment and exposures like mold) alongside “top-down” supports (therapy, limbic retraining, and community), noting therapy may be less effective without addressing root inflammation. They also highlight how mood improves with treatment, and suggest support options including The CIRS Group community and small group coaching through Untamed Iona (Dr. Lauren Sparks and Dr. Brenda Stewart). Check out our helpful links below the time stamps. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Anxiety & Depression in CIRS: Intro + Disclaimer 01:48 What is CIRS? and why mental health symptoms aren’t your fault 02:49 Top-Down vs Bottom-Up Healing (Therapy vs Treating Inflammation) 05:07 Let's talk biology: brain inflammation, neurotransmitters & mood 06:24 Our stories: suicidal ideation, hypervigilance & tick-borne triggers 10:23 Blood-Brain barrier + limbic system: why you feel stuck in "threat mode" 12:42 The Moldy Doc: snowball effect + hope through treatment 14:38 Support Options: therapy, support groups, limbic retraining + resources 16:48 Wrap-Up: Calming the alarm + Finding the right order of healing for YOU 18:54 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com HELPFUL LINKS: For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Moldy Doc: https://moldymovie.com/ Untamed Iona's support groups: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie talk about the prevalence of Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Despite being relatively unknown, CIRS is not rare; It  affects approximately 25% of the population due to genetic susceptibility. They discuss the reasons behind the lack of awareness in conventional medicine, from underdiagnosis and nonspecific symptoms, to larger systemic issues with the medical industry and lack of awareness around mold. This episode highlights who should consider CIRS, the symptoms to look out for, and the steps to diagnosis and treatment. With a mix of personal insights and factual information, this episode aims to arm listeners with the knowledge to make informed decisions about their health. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer 00:36 What is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)? 01:36 Why don't people take mold seriously? 02:55 Why it's difficult to diagnose CIRS 05:22 Prevalence of CIRS and Genetic Susceptibility 10:11 Exposure sources and triggers for illness 11:22 Common misconceptions and normalization, rationalization 15:24 Who should consider CIRS as a potential diagnosis? 19:31 Conclusion and Resources For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS What even is CIRS? episode: https://youtu.be/K-rztn5x7_w?si=kbmVdeVXx8mLLWu7 Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this informative episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Anjali Noble to discuss the complexities of perimenopause, menopause, and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Noble, founder of the Noble Center for Health and Healing, shares insights on perimenopause and menopause, potential treatments and ways to support the transition, and how CIRS may complicate this natural process. Viewers are advised to consult their own healthcare providers for personalized medical advice.  Dr. Noble emphasizes the importance of addressing stress, improving gut health, and testing/tracking before employing hormone replacement strategies. Tune in for a deep dive into menopause, its symptoms, and what to look for in a doctor and treatment in order to manage it effectively and safely. To work with Dr. Noble, visit her website at https://drnoble.com For more CIRS information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:56 What is menopause? 04:32 Hormonal changes and symptoms of perimenopause 07:00 What happens with menopause, or when you hit estrogen depletion? 07:50 What are menopause symptoms and how long do they last?  10:50 Definition of perimenopause 11:55  CIRS vs menopause 17:02 Treatment recommendations for dealing with menopause 18:40 Dangers of pellets as a menopause treatment 21:45 Deal with stress first, adrenal support, then look at hormones 25:30 Lifestyle changes: gut health, methylation, detox 30:00 GLP-1s 31:29 How to work with Dr. Noble 34:30 Outro For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS: Dr. Anjali Noble's informational website: https://dranjalinoble.com/ Work with Dr. Anjali Noble: https://drnoble.com Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explain what Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) is, how to get diagnosed, and how to treat it. They cover sources of biotoxin exposure that can make you sick and what kind of binders work best for these toxins. Jacie and Barbara also discuss the importance of genetic predisposition, the diagnostic criteria, and testing you can do, including visual contrast sensitivity tests and relevant blood markers. They'll also cover the Shoemaker Protocol for treatment, and acknowledge that many of us need to treat co-infections and other long term damage for complete recovery. This episode aims to empower listeners with the knowledge to seek appropriate treatment and navigate this chronic illness effectively. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:09 What is CIRS? 01:32 Common sources of biotoxins that can make you sick 06:01 How CIRS causes inflammation and multiple symptoms 08:10 Why most doctors miss CIRS 09:47 Common ways CIRS is misdiagnosed 11:00 The CIRS Symptom Clusters, and how to get diagnosed with CIRS 16:25 Treating CIRS 20:07 Side Quests (co-infections, damage repair) in CIRS recovery 22:00 We hope you find healing! For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS: Our episode on the Symptom Clusters: https://youtu.be/RyKff3TWBZo VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening Our episode on which bloodmarkers to test: https://youtu.be/XMtbxLLZzaU Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test Our CIRS vs Mold Illness episode: https://youtu.be/ZlYoAcV7uUo Shoemaker Protocol research: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf Our episode on the right CIRS Binders: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explore the connection between Hashimoto's disease and chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS). They dive into the importance of early diagnosis, crucial blood tests, and the differences between conventional and functional treatments. The episode also includes personal anecdotes and practical tips for managing thyroid health, touching on topics like diet, stress management, and the significance of tracking symptoms. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 00:26 Continuing our autoimmune series 00:51 Understanding Hashimoto's Disease 02:40 Symptoms and diagnosis of Hashimoto's 07:50 Hashimoto's causes and triggers 12:29 Treatment Options 13:27 Symptom management with lifestyle changes 18:31 Tracking and monitoring your health 21:43 Community Support For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the complex topic of working out while dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the challenges, benefits, and strategies for maintaining a workout routine despite the debilitating symptoms that CIRS can cause, such as fatigue, joint pain, and hypometabolism. Listeners are advised to consult their healthcare practitioners for personalized advice. Additional insights include using AI for creating custom workout plans, tracking progress, and when to hire a professional to help you. Tune in for practical advice, personal experiences, and motivation to help you navigate your fitness journey alongside CIRS. 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 01:23 How CIRS affects your ability to exercise 02:32 Benefits of exercise during CIRS treatment 04:36 Slowly ramp up exercise to avoid Push and Crash 07:07 Using AI and professional help for fitness plans 08:15 How Barbara got back into exercise after surgery 10:20 Getting started is the hardest part 12:17 Tracking progress, using apps or AI, and when to hire a coach 16:08 The best workout to do is the one you'll actually do and enjoy! 17:37 Everyone is different! For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS! Dr. Stuart McGill's website: https://www.backfitpro.com/ Barbara's PT that built her post-surgery workout program: https://www.d1physicaltherapy.com/ Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS 03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS 04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't 06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols 07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols 11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis 13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs 16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment 19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment 22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors 23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test Our episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOk MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits Study showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Join us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/ Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama It's the last 2025 episode of The CIRS Group podcast! Hosts Jacie and Barbara share their exciting plans for 2026, including upgrades in podcast quality, fun new merchandise, and including more expert-led classes within the membership. They also talk about personal updates, including Barbara's upcoming wedding and health treatments, and Jacie's insights on nervous system regulation. Join the conversation about their goals for the new year by commenting below what YOU want to see in 2026 from TCG. The CIRS Group plans to continue providing valuable resources and support, so thank you for watching and supporting this channel! TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 00:30 Poop talk 01:41 Improved production quality and content! 03:13 Transcripts, Printables, worksheets, and more! 04:19 Merchandise! Want some merch? 05:42 Expert Workshops and CIRS Group membership benefits 07:48 Email newsletters and Q&A webinars 09:35 CIRSx 2026 11:13 Barbara's personal updates and 2026 plans 15:00 Jacie's personal updates and 2026 plans 15:56 Nervous System Regulation insights 17:02 Jacie's word for the year: Stewardship 20:36 Final thoughts and encouragement For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Please note: we filmed this back in November, and moved some episodes around - any comments about the CIRS Summit are a bit out of date, but you can still watch the replays by visiting https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/ Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama In this special episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie answer a variety of questions during a live, recorded Q&A webinar. Topics discussed include identifying whether you have CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome), the Shoemaker treatment protocol, managing symptoms, dietary changes, and the effectiveness of different binders. They also cover secondary topics like dealing with Lyme disease and tick borne illness, experiencing muscle weakness, and incorporating therapies like cranial sacral and lymphatic drainage for better detox. A must-watch for anyone navigating the complexities of CIRS and seeking expert advice on the path to healing. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and Disclaimer 03:01 How do I know if I have CIRS? 07:19 Can I heal on a low dose of welchol? 08:27 Why utilizing a CIRS literate doctor is important 10:00 Tips to poop regularly when taking binders 12:20 How to know when VIP treatment has worked 14:54 Who gets CIRS? What causes CIRS? 16:17 How to manage histamine responses to food 19:43 Addressing Co-Infections: Lyme and Bartonella 24:14 How long does it take to heal? 27:48 Gall Bladder issues in CIRS patients 29:01 MARCoNs Test: Can You Do It Yourself? 29:44 Challenges with binders and intensification or herx reactions 31:56 Binders and The Paper Towel metaphor 33:16 Join the CIRS Group Community 34:37 Addressing full ileostomy concerns 36:37 Muscle weakness and how to build strength 40:51 When to incorporate VIP treatment for neuroinflammation 44:29 Cranial Sacral and Lymphatic Drainage Therapy 50:39 Gut Pain - should I try VIP? Or work with Dr. Lacey 53:51 Final Thoughts and Resources For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com HELPFUL LINKS: CIRS Summit: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/ Find a Shoemaker Certified practitioner or coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates Interview with Dr. Lacey re: GI issues: https://youtu.be/baldT8N7nl4?si=TjgkHXmG8J9psKRQ Interview with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres re: Neuroquant MRIs: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM?si=LtVBCRRicVbVKLgS Order MARCoNs testing: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits Dr. April's website for cranial manipulation: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/ Work with Dr. Lacey on gut issues: https://www.drlacey.org/ Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Join Jacie and Barbara for a cozy holiday episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as they share their favorite gift ideas for the chronic illness community. From simple stocking stuffers to big-ticket wellness upgrades, they walk through options at every price point so you can find something thoughtful—whether you're shopping on a tight budget or going all-out.   You’ll hear practical picks like Epsom salts and blue-light–blocking glasses, mid-range tools that make daily life easier, and even a few dream splurges like an infrared sauna. They also talk about the gifts that cost nothing at all—acts of service, support, and presence—because those often matter the most.   Settle in and gather inspiration for meaningful gifts that can brighten the season for the CIRS or chronic illness warrior in your life.   Timestamps: 00:00 – Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast 00:51 – Under $25: Budget-Friendly Gift Ideas 03:12 – $25–$75: Everyday Wellness Upgrades 06:26 – $75–$150: Mid-Tier Health Investments 09:32 – $150–$400: High-End Health Gifts 13:21 – Splurge Gifts: Over $400 15:59 – Non-Monetary Gifts & Acts of Service 17:42 – Closing Thoughts & Holiday Wishes For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com   Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs   The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com I nstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/   Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/   Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara   Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Register for The CIRS Summit 2025! It's free! https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/ For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interviews on a wide range of topics related to CIRS. From environmental biotoxins and brain health, to legal advice and family dynamics, there is something for everyone. We'll also talk more about how to register for the event, access replays, and contribute to CIRS research. Check out the timestamps to see who's speaking, and register here: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/  TIMESTAMPS 00:01 The CIRS Summit 2025 01:20 This year's Summit is new and improved! 02:57 Register for the CIRS Summit 03:39 Summary of all the scheduled talks! and Disclaimer 03:58 Dr Ritchie Shoemaker - Lessons for Tomorrow from Lessons in the Past 04:33 Dr. Jennifer Smith - Complex Family Systems in CIRS 05:26 Max McCord - Diagnosing the Root Cause of Environmental Biotoxins 06:19 Dr. Andrea Jordheim - How to Improve Your Brain’s Cleaning and Repair System in CIRS 07:35 Mindy Mastruserio - Reclaiming Agency in CIRS: Healing the Self Beyond the Protocol 09:10 Dr. Christian Navarro Torres - How the Latest Nasal Swab Testing Can Help You Heal 10:00 Dr. Paula Kruppstadt - A Perspective on CIRS, Autism and PANS/PANDAS from a Functional Medicine Pediatrician 10:58 Dr. Lacey Venanzi - Are you Celiac or just gluten sensitive? 12:04 Julie Helm - From Reset to Regeneration: Bridging the Shoemaker Protocol to the Bredesen Protocol 13:00 Ian Siegel - How Giftedness Becomes a Curse in a Moldy School 13:55 Louise Carder - the Leptin Connection: Satiety, Signaling and Healing 15:00 Dr. Stacey McLure - Understanding the Skin Barrier: Structure, Function and Care 15:49 Ryan Schnack - How to Build A Strong Legal Case for CIRS 16:40 Dr. April Vukelic - Tips for Managing Back and Joint Pain with CIRS 19:20 Justin Carlson - New Tools for Living Safely with CIRS: Mold Map, Find a Mold Doctor and Aerlume 22:25 Final Thoughts and how to watch for free or get the replays For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why professional help is crucial for CIRS patients. He discusses his experience inspecting buildings for water damage and intrusion, the importance of hiring a certified IEP, and provides practical tips for dealing with home contents after mold contamination. Whether you're in need of understanding your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing results, or just want practical advice on making your home as clean and safe as possible, this episode covers it all. Tune in to gain valuable insights and ensure your living environment is safe and healthy. For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:33 Meet Bill Weber: Indoor Environmental Professional 03:20 Bill's favorite testing methods for mold 05:30 Understanding Mold Analysis: ERMI dust tests vs Culture tests 08:30 When to choose an ERMI dust test vs culturing 10:11 Fun fact about the first four mold types on the ERMI 11:50 Why it's so important to hire an IEP for your home 12:54 Context of climate in assessing your home 14:48 Can you interpret your own ERMI without an IEP? 19:06 Actinomycetes bacteria and endotoxin testing 22:11 Tips for collecting dust samples 26:27 Understanding the nuance and context when interpreting the data 31:30 Educating more professionals on remediating properly 34:15 Choosing to clean or throw away personal property 39:09 How to work with Bill Weber HELPFUL LINKS: Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ CIRSx Courses for remediators, indoor environmental professionals, and home owners: Medically Important Remediation for Professionals: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101 Introduction to Medically Important Assessment 101: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia101 Deeper Exploration of Medically Important Assessment 102: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia102 Bill Weber's CIRSx talk about mold testing: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222?video=955676414 Bill Weber and Michael Schrantz's CIRSx talk about inspecting a convent:  Part one: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856185993 Part two: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856244891 Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the importance of accurate diagnosis and effective treatment (The Shoemaker Protocol). They delve into the scientific foundation of CIRS, the role of genetics, and the significance of environmental triggers. The episode aims to raise awareness about CIRS, offer guidance on diagnosis and treatment options, and share personal insights into managing chronic illness. This is NOT medical advice, please consult a CIRS-literate doctor for diagnosis and treatment. For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com 00:00 Introduction 01:03 Who we are, and what is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) 02:20 Disclaimer and why we are commenting on Mikayla Matthews 03:50 What is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? 05:00 Trigger Warning, opportunity to raise awareness 05:40 Mikayla Matthews' childhood and history of exposure 07:20 The CIRS and Eczema connection 08:03 Understanding CIRS and its symptoms 10:00 Her father's Parkinson's and the genetic factor in CIRS 13:11 Link between CIRS and neurodegenerative diseases 18:05 How trauma and abuse triggers chronic illness like CIRS 23:10 Mikayla's symptoms: eczema, allergies, mollescum, candida, anxiety, pain, vertigo 28:00 Labwork to order when you have Eczema: a-MSH, VEGF, MMP9 33:20 How to get a CIRS Diagnosis: symptoms and tests 42:09 Why therapies Mikayla Matthews tried but didn't work 45:50 Why urinary mycotoxin tests don't work 49:17 Why specific binders are key to healing from mold illness or CIRS 53:04 How to test your home for mold 57:00 CIRS can allow other infections to take hold 58:00 How to find a doctor to help you heal 59:05 You CAN heal with the right treatment protocol (Shoemaker) For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com Work with Dr. Christian Navarro Torres: https://www.cirslab.com/ This episode is a reaction to the podcast interview Mikayla did re: her childhood/history: https://youtu.be/csQJIaNht6A?si=jZyHlzcU3a4cV_bq HELPFUL LINKS: How to check if a CIRS diagnosis is the answer to your chronic health issues: Symptom Clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIsxBShy0bd/ VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening HLA DR Genetic Test: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test Dust test your home for mold: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/ Dust test your home for endotoxins (poop): https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/ Dust test your home for actino bacteria: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/ Find a Shoemaker certified doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol Published research to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf Published research on the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf What is CIRS?: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/blog/what-is-cirs/ Our "What is CIRS?" podcast episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg Learn more about the Brain MRI called the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM Join The CIRS Group community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/ Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free. For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season 02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays 04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo 07:10 Set expectations and boundaries 09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions 09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations 12:00 Eat before you go 13:26 Offering alternatives 14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics 16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions 19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking 24:33 The Importance of Boundaries 26:23 Community Support Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report! For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIME STAMPS 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres 02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED! 03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant 06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant 10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have? 12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version 17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research 19:36 How you can support CIRS Research 20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips! 28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: thecirslab@gmail.com https://www.cirslab.com/ Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_ Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeuj The CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/ The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified! Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/ In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr and others, his symptoms, the treatments he attempted, and the strong possibility that he may be overlooking the Shoemaker Protocol for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Many people suffer with CIRS and think they're treating it properly, but unfortunately many doctors are not educated on the most efficient and research-backed approach, so hopefully this episode helps spread more awareness. This is not medical advice, please consult with a doctor - especially a Shoemaker certified practitioner - to decide the best treatment for you. If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/ Here's the link to the video we're reacting to today: https://youtu.be/IU4D_kjty2k?si=pJTJCkKaWP0wcaSd TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 01:34 Who is Chris Williamson? 03:03 Health challenges hit everyone, even when you're rich and famous 07:00 Chris' symptoms and diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr 8:55 Lyme or CIRS? or BOTH? 10:30 What is CIRS? 11:45 What Chris tried but didn't work 13:44 Why the RIGHT binders matter to get better 17:34 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis 18:46 Why we talk about the Shoemaker Protocol 20:42 "You're just stressed, you need rest" 23:44 "You have a million problems until you have one of them" 24:55 A unique male perspective on CIRS HELPFUL LINKS: Our "What is CIRS?" episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=20xZ5AdP2tDqL1Q2 Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne illness and CIRS: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=Xc7dhc39rLFE99kZ Our other episode on treating tick borne illness, including Lyme: https://youtu.be/3XyjE2BJvjM?si=SCf85207ricG2n7c Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveitis, reactive arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Jacie shares a detailed account of her rapid symptom progression and how treatment for CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) brought her significant relief. The episode highlights the overlap between CIRS and autoimmune conditions, emphasizing the importance of addressing environmental toxins for effective treatment. For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer 01:24 Understanding HLA-B27 and it's connection to autoimmune conditions 03:29 Jacie's experience with Ankylosing Spondylitis 6:50 America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys reference to AS 8:03 The connection of arthritis and eyeballs 8:40 Triggers and progression of Ankylosing Spondylitis 11:42 Treatment and Management for Ankylosing Spondylitis 12:35 Interesting connection to Klebsiella  13:25 How CIRS treatment cured Jacie's AS 16:11 Overlap between HLA-B27 and CIRS 19:00 Conclusion and Encouragement HELPFUL LINKS: Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.