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Andi is the owner and gifted education consultant for A Meaningful Mess, LLC. A recognized thought leader in the field, she was named one of the Top People in Education to Watch by the Academy of Education Arts and Sciences in 2016. Andi is dedicated to helping educators engage and empower today’s learners through practical strategies that foster creativity and student-driven learning.She is the author of several publications, including Genius Hour: Passion Projects that Ignite Innovation and Student Inquiry, A Meaningful Mess: A Teacher's Guide to Student-Driven Classrooms, Ready-to-Use Resources for Genius Hour in the Classroom: Taking Passion Projects to the Next Level, and Designing for Depth: A Framework for Purposeful Differentiation. Andi continues to advocate for gifted learners and strives to make teaching strategies both innovative and accessible.

Emily Mofield, Ed.D., is an Associate Professor at Lipscomb University with more than two decades of experience in gifted education as a teacher, district leader, and researcher. She’s passionate about helping educators challenge and support gifted and high-potential students through meaningful curriculum design, differentiation, and social-emotional learning. Emily is the co-author of several award-winning books, including Collaboration, Coteaching, and Coaching in Gifted Education —named NAGC’s 2021 Book of the Year—(with Vicki Phelps) and Vertical Differentiation for Gifted, Advanced, and High-Potential Students. She’s a frequent keynote and featured speaker for gifted organizations and works with school districts across the country to deepen rigor and create learning experiences that stretch student thinking.Dr. Vicki Phelps is Executive Director/Head of School for Quest Academy, a school for gifted learners in Palatine, IL. She has been involved in gifted education for over 25 years, including teaching and leading gifted services at both the elementary and secondary levels as well as serving as an assistant professor of education. She regularly keynotes and presents at gifted conferences and is the recipient of the 2021 NAGC Book of the Year (with Emily Mofield) for Collaboration, Coteaching, and Coaching in Gifted Education. In addition to her published research and various other articles, she is also the author of Strength-Based Goal Setting in Gifted Education (with Karah Lewis), Coaching in Gifted Education (with Emily Mofield), and Successful Online Learning with Gifted Students. She is excited about her new project with Routledge: The Power of Purpose in Gifted Education: An Instructional Decision-Making Framework for Student-Centered Learning. Dr. Phelps is Chair for NAGC’s Special Schools & Programs and serves as a reviewer for articles, books, and proposals.

UNC Honors Carolina is a premier undergraduate academic program at the University of North Carolina and today we have Jason Clemmons, the Director of Curriculum, Recruitment & Operations for Honors Carolina. In this episode, Jason provides an overview of the program, including its distinctive offerings to these Honor students such as small, faculty-led courses, career and professional development support, priority registration, first-year housing, and an extensive selection of global travel opportunities. He emphasizes how Honors Carolina forms a close-knit community within the larger university, fostering intellectual curiosity and offering students a multitude of opportunities for learning and personal growth.

In this episode of They’ll Be Fine, we speak with Todd Roberts, the Chancellor of the North Carolina School of Science and Math. NCSSM was the first school of its kind, a public residential high school where students study a specialized curriculum emphasizing science and mathematics. Annually, NCSSM serves 11th and 12th grade students in its Residential program across two campuses, plus additional North Carolina students in the NCSSM Online program and through other distance education offerings. NCSSM also provides science and math enrichment opportunities for K-12 students, course content, and professional development for teachers throughout North Carolina.Dr. Todd Roberts was appointed chancellor of North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics (NCSSM) in August 2010. Previously, Dr. Roberts served as superintendent of the 16,500-student Ann Arbor Public Schools in Michigan. A Durham, N.C., native, Dr. Roberts began his career in the Durham Public Schools, where he was a high school teacher and elementary school principal. Dr. Roberts holds a B.A. from Duke University and his master’s and doctoral degrees from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Educator, curriculum designer, parent, and community builder, Leslie Kerner is the COO and co-founder of Silverquicken. She’s spent the last 25 years developing K-12 education products and services. At Amplify, she worked closely with teachers and administrators around the country to bring them solutions that help their students succeed. At Silverquicken, she’s designed, developed, and implemented programs for gifted students, including direct instruction with K-8 students and teacher training for gifted and general education teachers.Teacher, author, and curriculum developer, Chris Ryan is CEO and co-founder of Silverquicken. He spent 15+ years growing an education startup to the world’s largest provider of GMAT test-preparation services, after close to a decade of consulting and teaching high school chemistry/physics. He’s authored, co-authored, and edited numerous nonfiction books, and is working on a middle-grade novel. At Silverquicken, he builds puzzles, games, and stories to help awaken the curiosity and wonder of learning. Links:Silverquicken www.silverquicken.comSilverquicken Instagram: www.instagram.com/silverquickenSilverquicken Facebook: www.facebook.com/silverquicken

Ann Mary is a high school senior in Wake County. She is an advocate for gifted education programs for students and is raising awareness of the importance of student voice in gifted education policy. She currently works with the Wake County Advanced Learning Services team as a student advisor and with the National Gifted and Talented Student Advocacy Board as a senior board member. She is also the president of an international nonprofit called YAPA Kids, which is dedicated to inspiring academic curiosity in students from grades 1-8. In her free time, she loves to go on runs and read mystery novels!Episode Link:Yapa Kids www.yapakids.org

Justin Mitchell, an eighth-grade social studies teacher and gifted and talented coordinator at Franklin Simpson Middle School, shares his unique and engaging approaches to teaching history. Justin discusses the importance of making history come alive for students, particularly gifted learners, through creativity and pop culture. He emphasizes experiential learning, ethical decision-making, and the significance of social studies in fostering future leaders. Justin explains his distinctive methods, such as themed debates, interactive projects, and the integration of contemporary cultural references, to keep students engaged. He also highlights the value of cross-curricular connections and the importance of preparing students for critical thinking and civil discourse. Throughout, Justin offers practical insights and resources for educators to enhance their teaching strategies.Connect with Justin on Instagram at @justinkylemitchell. You can also email him at justin.mitchell@simpson.kyschools.us.

The North Carolina Governor's School is a four-week summer residential program for gifted and talented high school students, integrating academic disciplines, the arts, and unique courses on each of two campuses. Learning focuses on the exploration of the most recent ideas and concepts in each discipline, and it does not involve credit, tests, or grades. Students are selected to attend through a competitive process after being nominated by their public school unit or non-public school.The Governor's School at NCDPI appreciates Lance, Bly, and Alden sharing their experiences from Governor's School. Our alumni are our greatest advocates, and we are delighted to hear them encourage students to apply for Governor's School. If you are interested in applying, please speak with your school counselor or local GS contact about deadlines and your school's process for applying. Deadlines are approaching, and we would love for you to consider joining us on campus!https://www.dpi.nc.gov/students-families/enhanced-opportunities/north-carolina-governors-school

Today, we're tackling a topic that can feel a bit intimidating when teaching gifted students: math. Well known by its acronym, (AoPS), Art of Problem Solving has a unique approach to teaching math, focusing not just on rote memorization but on deep conceptual understanding and creative problem-solving. It's a curriculum that challenges students to think outside the box and build a true foundation in mathematics.Grayson Maas joined Art of Problem Solving (AoPS) in 2015. He earned his PhD in Sociocultural Anthropology from the University of California Santa Barbara where he conducted research, wrote, and taught about the various factors contributing to underrepresentation in STEM education and in the workforce. He has spent the last ten years at AoPS working to deliver the most engaging and transformative educational experiences possible for hundreds of thousands of students.Art of Problem Solving (AoPS)

Summer Cowick is an educator and founder of Brilliant And Then Some who specializes in supporting gifted students, particularly those with Dabrowski's Overexcitabilities (OEs). Her work focuses on managing and leveraging these five intensities—emotional, imaginational, intellectual, psychomotor, and sensual—to help gifted children and families understand and nurture their unique needs in educational and home environments. She offers practical strategies and insights through presentations, workshops, and her coaching organization, aiming to transform teaching and learning by addressing the authentic needs of gifted individuals.Brilliant and Then Some"Mellow Out," They Say. If I Only Could (2013) by Michael Piechowski Fact Check: 85% of gifted have one overexcitability

Chris Rice is an experienced educator, advocate, and speaker. He has over 10 years of experience as a school psychologist and has worked in several states and with students ages 3-21. Currently, Chris serves as a gifted education psychologist for a large school district in North Carolina. He has the opportunity to help influence policy and practice, work directly with gifted learners, and support AIG teachers through professional learning–among other roles and responsibilities. In his free time, Chris is the Vice President of NCAGT, serves on the Public Policy and Advocacy Committee for the National Association for Gifted Children, and enjoys speaking with parents, educators, and anyone else interested in supporting gifted and advanced learners. If not at work, in a board meeting, or on stage, you can find Chris on the lacrosse field coaching his son’s team or spending time with his family–probably outside on a trail.Adele Vensel is a passionate educator, advocate, and PhD student at UNC Charlotte, specializing in Special Education with a focus on gifted education. With over 15 years of experience in public education, Adele has worked in Title I schools across all grade levels, from preschool to high school. She currently serves as a gifted education specialist for a school district in southwestern North Carolina where she collaborates closely with gifted learners and supports teachers through professional development . Adele is also an alumna of the Public School Forum of North Carolina’s Educational Policy Fellowship, which allows her to shape policy and practice. Outside of her professional work, Adele is actively involved with the Advocacy and Engagement committee of NCAGT, leads SENG community groups, and is a dedicated advocate for gifted and advanced learners. When she's not working, you can find Adele enjoying the great outdoors, whether she's swimming, biking, or running.Resources:Proposed Cuts to AP FundingNCDPI Advanced Learning & Gifted Education

Dr. Emily King is a Child Psychologist and former School Psychologist who has worked with neurodivergent children and teens for over 20 years. She received a Ph.D. in School Psychology from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill where she worked at Frank Porter Graham Child Development Institute and the Carolina Institute for Developmental Disabilities. She began her career as a School Psychologist in Houston, Texas specializing in providing school-based mental health in K-12 public schools. Emily now works in private practice in North Carolina supporting the mental health needs of neurodivergent youth, their families, and their teachers.You can find more of her on the Learn with Dr. Emily Substack, where you can find her workshops, blogs, and podcast.You can also find her professional development offerings for teachers here.She is also the creator of The Neurodiverse Classroom, a professional development curriculum for educators. And her new book, THE NEURODIVERGENT LEARNER, will be available for presale in early 2026!https://www.learnwithdremily.com/https://www.learnwithdremily.com/teachershttps://www.learnwithdremily.com/parents@emilywkingphdNCAGT Blogs on this topic:https://www.ncagt.org/post/winter1https://www.ncagt.org/post/winter2https://www.ncagt.org/post/winter3https://www.ncagt.org/post/2elearners

You might know Todd Stanley from his YouTube channel “Todd Talks” or his website “The Gifted Guy” which has a ton of free resources! Todd served as classroom teacher for 18 years and then, has the gifted coordinator for Pickerington Schools the past 10 years. In this episode we discuss the power of project based learning, something he has a lot of experience in and wrote a few books. He shares some of his favorite tools from his book Teachers’ Toolbox for Gifted Education. We also discuss his new book, Letting Student Voices Shine: Using Online Talks to Teach Public Speaking, where he shares the how and why on student presentations. Beyond teaching and writing, Stanley is an active speaker and workshop facilitator and offers professional development sessions. This episode is packed with great nuggets to help you create better structure and empower your students.

Monica Simonds, M.Ed., is a Strategist for K-12 Assessments at Riverside Insights. In this role, she works closely with educators across the U.S. to help them gain greater insight and utility from their assessment data with a specific focus on best practices for identifying and serving gifted and talented students. Monica is the 2017 recipient of the NAGC Gifted Coordinator award and the 2019 TAGT Administrator of the Gifted award. On this episode, she shares resources on how to support gifted students after they receive their Cognitive Ability Test score.https://riversideinsights.com/

Gia Kaul combines her rich background of teaching elementary and middle school to impactful roles at Pearson Education, the National Math and Science Initiative, and the College Board. Currently, she serves in the Schools Development position at Cambridge International Education. Her expertise lies in fostering strong connections with state, district, and school stakeholders to drive educational opportunities for students. In this episode, Gia discusses the mission and impact of Cambridge International, a global leader in education programs and qualifications, and how Cambridge supports students and educators around the world with interesting and advanced curriculum.https://www.cambridgeinternational.org/usa/

In this episode of They’ll Be Fine, we're chatting with Brian Housand and Stephanie Higgs! With a Ph.D. in Gifted Education from University of Connecticut, Brian has written books and given numerous presentations focused on gifted education. As the coordinator of gifted programs at UNC Wilmington, he educates and inspires teachers to bring more creativity to the classroom for their gifted students. He is also known for integrating technology in interesting and exciting new ways. If you have been lucky enough to be a student of his or listen to one of his presentations, you know what I’m talking about. Stephanie Higgs, as known as Little Miss Gifted on Instagram, is an award-winning, Nashville-living gifted educator and differentiation coach. Stephanie is a quick thinking, fast talking, passionate presenter, and your #1 hype girl! After listening to her you will leave energized, equipped, and empowered for an educational glow up!Today they are here to talk about Gripes to Grapes - In their words, Gifted education is magical, but it can also make you feel like you’ve lost your sparkle. You’re pulled in a thousand directions, expected to do it all, and often misunderstood (even by your peers). This summer, it’s time to reconnect with your magic. To pause. To prune. To believe in yourself again. Because you are a gifted teacher. Because YOU are a rare and radiant unicorn! 🦄 And they are here to help you see that again. We hope you enjoy this episode with Brian and Stephanie Register: https://www.brianhousand.com/offers/isStKSoB/checkout

Erik M. Francis, M.Ed., M.S., is an international author, educator, presenter, and professional development provider with 30 years of experience in education. He is the author of Inquiring Minds Want to Learn: Posing Good Questions to Promote Student Inquiry (Solution Tree),Deconstructing Depth of Knowledge: A Method and Model for Deeper Teaching and Learning (Solution Tree), Now That’s a Good Question! How to Promote Cognitive Rigor Through Classroom Questioning (ASCD). Erik is the owner of Maverik Education, providing professional learning and support on how to plan and provide teaching and learning experiences that are standards driven and student supportive. He is also consistently ranked as one of the World’sTop 30 Education Professionals by the international research organization Global Gurus and the Top 10 Global Thought Leaders in Education by the organization Thinkers360.Maverik Education: www.maverikeducation.com Twitter / X: @maverikedu12LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maverikeducation/ Deconstructing Depth of Knowledge: A Method for Deeper Teaching and Learning:www.solutiontree.com/truedok Inquiring Minds Want to Learn: Posing Good Questions to Promote Student Inquiry:www.solutiontree.com/inquiringminds

In this episode of They’ll Be Fine, we speak with Crawford Leavoy, National Speech & Debate Tournament Champion coach. For the past 12 years as Director of Speech & Debate at Durham Academy, he's built a program that consistently dominates the national stage: 12 straight years of Top 20 finishes at the National Speech & Debate Tournament, with multiple Top 10 placements. He's a three-time North Carolina Coach of the Year and a two-diamond coach with the NSDA. Crawford creates an environment where gifted students are challenged, where their passions ignite, and where they learn to apply their academic skills in a competitive, yet supportive, arena. He prioritizes developing well-rounded individuals, fostering leadership, confidence, and critical thinking. For him, it’s about building good people, not just good debaters. Get ready to learn more about Speech & Debate from one of the most successful speech and debate programs in the country in this conversation with Crawford.

Welcome back to They’ll Be Fine, the podcast where we dive into the most impactful practices in gifted education and beyond. In this episode, we’re exploring an instructional approach that transforms classrooms into vibrant spaces for critical thinking, inquiry, and meaningful dialogue—the Paideia approach.We recently had the privilege of sitting down with two incredible school leaders in Charlotte, NC– Kelly Dowdy and Jane Armbruster, They implement the Paideia framework at their schools with remarkable success. They shared invaluable insights into how this philosophy fosters deep learning, student engagement, and a culture of intellectual curiosity.Kelly Dowdy is in her 25th year in education. She has served as the principal of Elon Park Elementary since January 2017. Her career began as a fifth-grade teacher at the same elementary school she attended as a student. She has also taught fourth grade, worked as a literacy facilitator, and served as an assistant principal. In 2005, she earned her National Board Certification as a classroom teacher and has chosen to maintain it even after transitioning out of the classroom. She earned her master’s degree in educational leadership from Winthrop University in 2011. A native of Charlotte and a graduate of Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, Kelly has always had a love for learning at every level. -Born in Hong Kong, Jane Armbruster comes from a family of educators, a legacy that began with her grandparents. Her passion for education runs deep—her sister previously taught at the university level, working with master's students, while her brother teaches in international schools at the middle and high school levels. With 28 years of experience in education, Jane currently serves as the Principal of Providence Spring Elementary in Charlotte, NC, which is home to one of the largest populations of gifted students in Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools (CMS). Since joining CMS in 2000, she has held various roles, including classroom teacher, Academically or Intellectually Gifted (AIG) teacher, facilitator, and assistant principal. She holds National Board Certification and an Academically Gifted Licensure and is deeply committed to creating enriching learning experiences for all students. Beyond school leadership, she has presented at the National Gifted Conference, the NCAGT Conference, and the National Paideia Center. She thrives on problem-solving and critical analysis, always seeking ways to enhance education for all students. The daily joys of working in a school continue to energize her, and she finds fulfillment in collaborating with educators, students, and families to create meaningful learning experiences. She is dedicated to working with all stakeholders to develop not only strong learners but also responsible citizens and stewards of the world.

In this episode of They'll Be Fine, Kim Tredick, a seasoned educator with 36 years in public education, discusses her journey and passion for gifted education. She details her professional background from being an elementary school teacher to an assistant superintendent, emphasizing the need for differentiation. Kim introduces the Depth and Complexity framework, developed in the early 1990s by Dr. Sandra Kaplan and Betty Gould, as a way to enhance critical and creative thinking among students of all learning levels. She explains how the framework utilizes visual icons to help students actively engage in metacognition, promoting inclusive and equitable education. The interview covers practical applications of the framework, its benefits, and success stories, along with resources available through J. Taylor Education and the Center for Depth and Complexity for educators and parents alike.Kim Tredick is currently a lead trainer and curriculum writer for the Center for Depth and Complexity. Kim has applied Depth and Complexity for three decades in various educational roles as a teacher, principal, district administrator, and Assistant Superintendent of Educational Services. In 2006, she was awarded the Milken National Educator award for her work with differentiation. Kim is the author of the best-selling Differentiation Smart Reference Guide, which is used in over 40,000 classrooms. As one of the original participating educators during the first PD rollout of Depth & Complexity in the 1990s, she provides practical, effective strategies for utilizing the Depth & Complexity framework.