The Corporate Couch: Work Stories I Only Tell My Friends

In this February edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I pull up a couple of barstools and let you eavesdrop on a conversation that ranges from Kansas City networking rooms to Florida marinas, from Super Bowl parties to superhero costumes. We kick things off with our new Kansas City business community, “The Table,” a curated group of leaders focused not just on swapping business cards, but actually helping each other make money and grow. It’s intentional. It’s selective. And it’s already expanding our circles in ways that matter.  From there, the stories start flowing: A college senior who read Marc’s book flew himself to Kansas City and offered to volunteer before even interviewing. A February walking meeting through I-Lan Park because “why sit inside?” The ripple effect of writing, speaking, and putting your ideas into the world. Super Bowl parties where no one really watches the game. X-Men marathons, Comic-Con possibilities, and why Wolverine might be the real MVP. We also talk about growth on multiple fronts. Marc’s firm is hiring ahead of demand to protect culture and service. He’s diving deeper into KPIs and strategic finance. I share what I’m reading, including lessons from entrepreneurs who built big, gave generously, and kept things simple. On the community front, we spotlight: The upcoming rebrand and Kentucky Derby fundraiser for Growing Futures. The Wabash Cannonball event. Worthy’s pop-up bar. And the ongoing power of connecting good people to good people. As always, this episode is less “corporate speak” and more happy hour honesty. What’s working. Who we’re meeting. What we’re reading. What we’re building. And how a little boldness, generosity, and consistency can compound in surprising ways. Grab your favorite beverage. It’s five o’clock somewhere.     This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

What do competitive tug-of-war, executive search, career transition, and Kansas City networking have in common? Gentry Ferguson (see his bio below). In this episode, Gentry shares a career journey that spans lawn-care entrepreneurship, leadership roles at Garmin and AMC Theatres, a layoff just months before COVID shut down the world, and the bold decision to build what is now Talent Solutions Partners. We talk about: What he learned working inside two iconic Kansas City companies The emotional reality of being walked out during a corporate layoff Why most hiring processes are broken and how companies can do better The rise of AI in job search and what job seekers are getting wrong How career transition coaching changes outcomes for professionals in crisis The gap in leadership readiness between generations And how Kansas City B2B Networking grew from a handful of pandemic coffee conversations into a thriving give-to-get community Gentry’s story is equal parts resilience, reinvention, and relationship-building. He’s built a career around helping organizations hire smarter, develop better leaders, and treat people with dignity during moments of transition. And yes, he might be the only executive strategist in town who can also explain optimal weight-to-pull ratios in competitive tug-of-war. If you care about talent, leadership, hiring, culture, or simply navigating career pivots with intention, this conversation delivers both practical insight and hard-earned wisdom.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Gentry: ​Gentry Ferguson is the Managing Partner of Talent Solutions Partners, a Kansas City-based full-cycle talent management firm helping organizations navigate today’s evolving workforce. With over 15 years of experience in business development and strategic partnerships, Gentry is a trusted advisor to leaders on executive search, leadership development, and career transition solutions.​ Beyond his day-to-day role, Gentry is a co-founder of Kansas City B2B Networking (KCB2B), a monthly group of business leaders focused on genuine relationships and ‘give to get’ collaboration. He also serves on the board of the Missouri & Kansas Search & Staffing Association (MKSSA), advancing talent-acquisition professionalism and ethics in the region. These roles reflect his passion for building strong business networks and nurturing future-focused talent strategies.

What do you get when you combine Division I basketball, 27 years in the U.S. Air Force, a PhD in Organization Development, and a passion for helping small businesses become profitable? You get Dr. Russ Barnes (see his bio below). In this episode, I reconnect with my former Manhattan College dorm mate, now retired Air Force Colonel, strategist, author, and founder of Systro Solutions, for a wide-ranging conversation about leadership, preparation, resilience, and what it really takes to build a profitable business. Russ shares: What it was like flying B-52 missions and graduating from the Air Force’s elite Weapons School How being an introvert shaped his leadership style and ultimately became a strength The lesson a senior officer gave him that transformed his career: “Do your homework.” Why most small business owners struggle before profitability, and how strategy, not hustle, changes the game We also talk about his unlikely first post-military venture, repairing leather and vinyl, the evolution into organization design, and why helping small businesses succeed is really about strengthening communities. If you care about leadership, lifelong learning, economic impact, or simply doing meaningful work at a high level, this conversation delivers.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Russ: ​Colonel (retired) Dr. Russ Barnes is Chief Strategist at​ Systro Solutions, an organization design firm specializing in small businesses. His 30+ years of experience in organization development are drawn from military service, franchise ownership, academic programs, and strategy consulting, specifically with small businesses. Russ is a best-selling author, speaker, podcaster, strategist, and lifelong learner. He is passionate about serving the community of military veterans and currently contributes as a Director of Education on the​ Action Zone Board of Directors and a course facilitator supporting the mission to help veterans, military spouses, and dependents build profitable companies.​ Russ earned his Bachelor’s Degree from Manhattan ​College (NY), his​ MBA from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, his Master of Science degree in Strategic Studies from Air University, and his PhD in​ Organization Development from Benedictine University.  

What happens when a dream career collides with real life and real priorities? In this episode, I sit down with Paul Sullivan (see bio below), a longtime New York Times columnist, author, and founder of The Company of Dads, to explore a career journey that spans elite journalism, bestselling books, keynote stages, and ultimately, a bold reinvention. Paul shares how growing up in a working-class Massachusetts town shaped his ambition, how mentorship and failure sharpened his voice as a writer, and what it was really like covering wealth, pressure, and power during the Great Recession. We talk Tiger Woods, golf under pressure, and the behind-the-scenes reality of writing 600+ columns for the New York Times. But the heart of this conversation centers on Paul’s evolution into what he calls a “Lead Dad” and why millions of fathers are quietly redefining work, parenting, and leadership. From being an “undercover” caregiver while building a high-profile career to launching The Company of Dads, Paul unpacks how outdated workplace norms are colliding with modern family realities and what leaders are still getting wrong. This is a candid, thoughtful conversation about ambition, identity, masculinity, work culture, and the courage it takes to rewrite the script when the old version no longer fits.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Paul: Paul Sullivan is the founder of The Company of Dads, the first platform dedicated to creating community for Lead Dads—men who are the go-to parents at home and allies to working caregivers. A former New York Times columnist for 13 years, Paul became a Lead Dad in 2013 when his wife launched her own asset management firm. After years of navigating this role while balancing a demanding career, he founded The Company of Dads in 2022 to support the roughly one-third of fathers in similar positions. Paul is also the author of Clutch and The Thin Green Line, co-hosts Bright Horizons' Work-Life Equation podcast, and lives in Connecticut with his wife, three daughters, and three dogs.

Do you hate work meetings? Meetings consume more time than any other business process, and yet they’re often the most frustrating part of the workday. According to Rebecca Hinds (see her bio below), that’s not a coincidence. It’s a design problem. Rebecca is a leading expert on organizational behavior and the future of work, with deep experience at the intersection of research, technology, and real-world execution. In this conversation, she shares insights from her new book, Your Best Meeting Ever: 7 Principles for Designing Meetings That Get Things Done. You will learn to rethink your meetings radically. We talk about how her background as a Division I swimmer at Stanford shaped her views on team dynamics, why meetings should be treated like a product, and how organizations unintentionally sabotage themselves with outdated collaboration habits. Rebecca also unpacks the human side of AI adoption, the challenges of hybrid work, and why most AI initiatives fail not because of technology, but because of people. You’ll hear about: Why inefficient meetings resemble a World War II sabotage tactic The “4D + CEO” test to decide whether a meeting should exist at all Why Return on Time Invested (ROTI) is a better metric than meeting satisfaction How hybrid and remote teams build culture intentionally Why empathy and systems thinking mattered during COVID Where AI is actually helping people work better and where it’s falling short How first-time managers can instantly raise their leadership impact This is a thoughtful, practical, and surprisingly fun conversation about how work really happens—and how leaders can redesign it to be more human, effective, and intentional.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Rebecca: Rebecca Hinds is a leading expert on organizational behavior and the future of work. She holds a BS, MS, and PhD from Stanford University. Rebecca founded the Work Innovation Lab at Asana and the Work AI Institute at​ Glean, first-of-their-kind corporate think tanks dedicated to conducting cutting-edge research on the future of work. Her research is consistently featured in top-tier publications and has appeared in places like Harvard​ Business Review, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Fast​ Company, Wired, TIME, CNBC, Bloomberg, Axios, the Washington Post, and more. Rebecca has been invited to speak on major stages all across the world, including Dreamforce,​ SXSW, INBOUND, Ai4, Cloudfest, and the Gartner Digital Workplace Summit. She regularly appears on​ podcasts, webinars, and online education programs, including appearances on Adam Grant’s Worklife​ podcast, Deloitte’s Capital H podcast, and as an instructor for CNBC’s Make It Masterclass, “How to Use​ AI to be More Productive and Successful at Work.” She is a trusted advisor to companies navigating the challenges of modern work—from meeting overload and hybrid dysfunction to the messy realities of AI​ adoption and organizational change.

The first It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere of the new year felt less like goal setting and more like catching up with a friend who knows you well enough to keep it real. In this January conversation, Marc Shaffer and I ease into 2026 by talking about what actually matters when the calendar flips: health, energy, relationships, and letting go of the pressure to start the year at full throttle. We swap stories about holiday parties that got a little bigger than expected, birthdays for four-year-olds, bourbon tastings, Guinness on tap, and the quiet week between Christmas and New Year’s that never quite goes according to plan. We also dive into: Reframing health goals beyond the gym and focusing on how you feel The difference between being busy and being in flow Mid-career shifts from building to maintaining without burning out New experiences with meditation and energy work, and what surprised us most Speaking goals, books coming to life in audio form, and unexpected feedback from listeners Why slowing down, creating space, and being present might be the smartest way to start the year As always, the conversation wanders in the best way, touching on family, work, giving back, creativity, and the power of staying connected. It’s a relaxed, honest start to the year and a reminder that progress doesn’t always come from pushing harder. Pull up a chair. It’s always 5 o’clock somewhere :-)   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

What if being a great leader isn’t about having all the answers, but about how people feel when they’re around you? In this episode, Jason Young (see bio below) joins me on The Corporate Couch for a wide-ranging, candid conversation about leadership, emotional intelligence, burnout, and why “likability” may be one of the most underrated leadership skills in business today. Jason shares stories from his early life, formative mentors, and unexpected career pivots that shaped his approach to leadership. We dive into the moments that changed his trajectory, including an unforgettable job interview that exposed a blind spot around emotional intelligence and ultimately became the catalyst for his work as a leadership consultant, speaker, and author. We also unpack ideas from his book The Likeable Leader, explore why burnout is not a badge of honor, and discuss how leaders can create cultures where people feel seen, valued, and motivated to follow. Along the way, Jason offers practical insights on mentoring, self-awareness, emotional regulation, and what it really means to lead in a people-first way. This episode is thoughtful, honest, and surprisingly fun, especially if you care about building teams people actually want to be part of.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Jason: Jason Young, PhD, is a leadership consultant, speaker, and author with more than 25 years of experience helping organizations and churches build thriving, people-first cultures. With doctoral degrees in hospitality and leadership, Jason is known for his practical, story-driven, and research-based approach to leadership, emotional intelligence, and team health.​ He has partnered with a wide range of clients, including Chick-fil-A, Delta Air Lines, Google, Procter & Gamble, Global Leadership Summit, North Point Ministries, and many other respected organizations, to design strategies that improve guest experience, build healthy leaders, enhance team engagement, and reduce burnout. His work includes keynotes, workshops, coaching, and consulting, all centered on creating psychologically safe, high-performing environments.

In this powerful episode, Jeff Pelaccio sits down with Seth Deutsch (see his bio below), founder of Samson Partners Group and former President and CEO of multi-billion-dollar divisions at AECOM. Seth shares his unconventional journey from Division I basketball player at Rice University to leading global teams across 80 countries and executing over 70 acquisitions. Seth opens up about growing up in a small Ohio town, choosing basketball as his path forward, and dealing with career-ending injuries that forced him to pivot from his dream of coaching college basketball. He discusses how he accidentally fell into business, starting with an oil and gas company in Houston and eventually finding his way into technology, industrial manufacturing, and service businesses. The conversation explores Seth's unique leadership philosophy, shaped by his background as a coach and teacher. He shares insights on building high-performing teams, often comprised of first-generation immigrants, trauma survivors, military veterans, and former college athletes who understand sacrifice and teamwork. Seth explains how he grew a business from $25 million to $2 billion in revenue, managed international teams across vastly different time zones, and why he believes constraints bring out the best ideas. Seth discusses his decision to step away from traditional corporate roles to found Samson Partners Group, where he helps founders prepare their businesses for exit through an investor lens. He introduces the concept behind his new book, "The Owner's Manual," which teaches business owners how to think about their companies as investors would—comparing it to preparing a rental property for sale by understanding what drives valuation gaps. Throughout the episode, Seth emphasizes the importance of work ethic, developing marketable skills, and finding what you're truly good at early in your career. He shares his "USA" framework for new managers: Understand first, Simplify operations, then take Action. Seth also candidly discusses his journey with complex post-traumatic stress disorder, the importance of mental health, and how he spent the last few years focused on healing while building Samson Partners. This conversation offers invaluable lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone navigating career transitions while dealing with personal challenges.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Seth: ​​Seth Deutsch is the founder of Samson Partners Group, where he advises founders and CEOs on achieving their business goals. He serves on the boards of multiple family-led and private equity-backed companies across restoration, roofing, industrial construction, and flooring platforms, and acts as an operating partner at several mid-market PE firms. Throughout his career, Seth has architected nine buy-and-build platforms and executed over 70 acquisitions. He previously served as President and CEO of two multi-billion-dollar divisions at AECOM and led a national PE-backed HVAC services company. His diverse experience spans the blue-collar trades, built environment, software (with two exits), and legal services. Notable achievements include scaling a finance and accounting services firm from 50 to over 400 employees in two years, achieving a 6.5X MOIC upon exit.

Frank Keck (see his bio below) believes leadership starts with being fully yourself and laughing a little more along the way. With over 25 years of experience helping leaders and teams communicate better, Frank blends humor, neuroscience, and real-world insight to show why people thrive when they feel seen, heard, and empowered. In this conversation, he shares how his journey from teaching Dale Carnegie courses to building a speaking career around “Embrace Your Freakness” shaped his approach to leadership and culture. We talk about why humor builds trust faster than titles, the danger of putting people into personality or generational boxes, and how leaders can better read the room and connect in real time. Frank also reflects on failure, authenticity, and why amplifying what makes people remarkable matters more than fixing what’s broken. This episode is thoughtful, funny, and practical, a reminder that great leadership doesn’t require perfection, just presence.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Frank: ​Frank Keck is a dynamic speaker, facilitator, and leadership expert who helps people and organizations unlock their full potential by being boldly and authentically themselves. With over 25 years of experience working with leaders, teams, and associations, Frank blends humor, neuroscience, and real-world strategy to create lasting impact. Whether he's teaching communication, collaboration, or confidence,​ Frank’s message is simple: when people feel seen and empowered, they thrive​ and so do the organizations they​ are part of.

Rich Chungong’s (see his bio below) story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly the point. A former professional football player, lifelong gamer, and naturally curious builder, Rich has reinvented himself at the intersection of Web3, AI, gaming, and community-driven innovation. In this conversation, Rich shares how the abrupt pause of the 2020 pandemic forced him to confront a question many athletes and high performers eventually face: What’s next when the identity you’ve always known comes to a stop? That moment of uncertainty became the spark for a deep dive into money, technology, and value creation, ultimately leading him to found Dash In Between, a creative agency helping organizations apply emerging technology in practical, human-centered ways. We talk about: Growing up in Lee’s Summit, MO and chasing the dream of playing professional football Competing and winning championships across Europe, and what life looks like when the game ends How curiosity, not hype, pulled him into Bitcoin, Web3, and digital ownership Why Dash In Between is named after the “dash” on a gravestone, and what that says about purpose and creativity Using Web3 and AI to solve real problems in food access, agriculture, healthcare, and local economies The rise (and fall) of NFTs, and what real utility actually looks like Building platforms like Produce Matrix and KC SMB to support farmers, small businesses, and the 2026 World Cup in Kansas City Why following curiosity beats following passion, and how leaders can better listen, stay patient, and empower teams This episode blends personal reinvention, practical innovation, and big-picture thinking about where technology is headed and how it can be used to create abundance rather than confusion. It’s a wide-ranging, honest conversation about building what matters in the time we’re given.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Rich: As a former professional athlete and lifelong gamer, Rich Chungong has always thrived in high-stakes environments where strategy, creativity, and execution are everything. Now, he has brought that same mindset to the world of emerging tech—building a cutting-edge creative agency specializing in Web3, AI, and game development. At Dash In Between, we fuse innovation, storytelling, and next-gen technology to help our clients craft truly innovative solutions. From immersive gaming worlds with AI integration in the metaverse, digital farmers' markets for easier food access, to using cutting-edge technology for patented medical device creation, our work pushes boundaries and redefines what’s possible.

Todd Ziegler (see his bio below) has seen the trucking industry from angles most people never do, from stolen loads of six-figure filet mignon to the quiet financial mechanics that determine whether carriers survive or fail. And according to Todd, the biggest issue in trucking isn’t drivers, trucks, or capacity. It’s how long it takes people to get paid and how much it costs them to wait. Todd is a seasoned C-suite transportation veteran and the CEO of TCS, a company using blockchain technology to solve the most expensive and broken part of the supply chain: freight payments. In this conversation, he walks through his unlikely path from law school and commercial real estate to freight brokerage, trucking, and ultimately building a Web3 solution that settles invoices same day or next business day at a fraction of the cost of traditional factoring. Along the way, we cover: Why trucking is a nearly $3 trillion industry that most people don’t fully understand The infamous disappearing truckload of $100,000 worth of filet mignon How factoring really works and why many carriers are trapped in 30–60% annualized interest rates Why the cost of capital, not capacity, is the biggest threat to the supply chain How blockchain creates faster, cheaper, and more transparent settlement rails What it was like being invited to the White House twice and attending the signing of the GENIUS Act Why Todd believes most B2B payments will be on-chain within the next 3–5 years And why truck drivers might be the most underestimated business minds in America This episode blends real-world trucking stories, hard economic truths, and a practical look at how new technology actually solves old problems. Whether you’re curious about blockchain, supply chains, or how innovation really happens on Main Street, this conversation pulls back the curtain.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Todd: ​​Todd Ziegler is a decade-long C-suite transportation veteran. As CEO of TCS, Ziegler is leading a revolution of innovation, making B2B blockchain settlement industry standard in transportation trade finance. TCS settles freight invoices on-chain same day, or next business day, up to 90% cheaper than invoice "factoring." TCS is a main street use case for digital assets that has solved the largest payments problem in North American supply chains - an Industry valued at nearly $3T.

In this December edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I wrap up the year the only way we know how by catching up like old friends over a wide-ranging, unscripted conversation that blends business, life, laughter, and reflection. We talk about the blur between November and December, holiday parties, birthdays, book parties (not book launches), and the reality of trying to slow down during the busiest time of the year (including Jeff's Reiki session). Marc shares what he’s learning through his Acumen peer group, why trusted circles matter more than ever, and how seeing behind the curtain as a financial planner reshapes how he thinks about success, wealth, and priorities. Jeff shares The conversation also touches on: Creating time wealth and why “slowing down” is a serious goal for 2026 Books that are shaping our thinking, including simple sketches that reframe money and meaning Giving back through organizations like Big Brothers Big Sisters and Growing Futures The power of small connections, unexpected introductions, and Kansas City’s culture of generosity Meditation streaks, habits, golf goals, and why being present matters more than being productive New family traditions, travel dreams, and what unplugging actually looks like. As always, it’s a mix of thoughtful insights, honest self-reflection, and a few laughs along the way, exactly what a December happy hour conversation should be. Pull up a chair, take a breath, and enjoy this end-of-year conversation. It’s always 5 o’clock somewhere!   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

Casey Wright’s (see his bio below) career has been shaped as much by people and perseverance as by placements and performance. As President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, he brings nearly two decades of recruiting experience and a deeply relational approach to helping companies and professionals find the right fit far beyond what an algorithm or job board can deliver. The conversation traces Casey’s journey from a football-playing, piano-playing Kansas kid to leading one of the region’s most respected recruiting firms. Along the way, he shares how personal loss, career-ending injury, and early professional pivots reshaped his view of success, leadership, and work. What emerges is a candid look at why culture matters more than credentials, why resumes still matter but never tell the whole story, and why real recruiting is ultimately about trust, timing, and long-term relationships. Casey also offers grounded insight into hiring trends, age bias, job hopping, the limits of technology in talent decisions, and what both early-career professionals and first-time leaders often get wrong. It’s an honest, wide-ranging discussion about building teams the right way and building a career that fits the life you want to live.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Casey: For the past 19 years, Casey ​Wright has specialized in placing finance and accounting professionals in the Kansas City area. Prior to becoming the President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, Casey built his career with accounting and finance recruiting firms that operated on national, regional, and local levels—giving him a broad perspective and deep expertise across diverse markets. He began at a multi-billion-dollar national recruiting firm, where he quickly rose through the ranks and earned numerous awards for performance and leadership at the local, regional, and national levels. In June of 2019, Casey took over as the President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, an award-winning firm serving the Kansas City community since 2011. Under his leadership, the firm has experienced significant growth. In 2024, Chief of Staff KC expanded to a 20-person internal team, moved into a new office with four times the space, and successfully placed professionals at over 200 companies throughout the metro area.

Shannon Nash’s (see her bio below) career doesn’t follow a straight line—and that’s exactly the point. Attorney. CPA. CFO. Board director. Podcast host. Film producer. Zumba instructor. Her journey is a masterclass in saying yes to growth, even when it means rewriting the plan entirely. In this conversation, Shannon shares how growing up between the Midwest and the East Coast, sitting outside law school classrooms as a child, and watching her father blaze a trail into the legal profession shaped her sense of discipline, ambition, and possibility. She opens up about the pivots that changed everything, from leaving traditional professional services to building a global career in corporate leadership, from living as an expat in Switzerland to stepping away from full-time work to support her son during critical developmental years. We talk about: Why career “detours” often become the most meaningful chapters What global living taught her about leadership, culture, and perspective How improvisation, creativity, and even group fitness classes sharpen leadership skills The realities of board service and how leaders actually get invited into the boardroom Her experience as CFO of Wing, Alphabet’s autonomous drone delivery company Why relationships, not résumés, drive long-term career success The inspiration behind her podcast, No Boxes: Just Verses, and why music tells leadership stories better than titles ever could Shannon brings candor, humor, and deep reflection to a conversation that challenges traditional definitions of success. Her story is proof that leadership isn’t about staying in one lane—it’s about knowing when to change course and having the courage to keep moving forward.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​S​hannon: Shannon Nash is a global C-suite leader, Qualified Financial Expert, attorney, and CPA with 30+ years of experience at the intersection of technology, finance, and governance. She serves as an independent board director for NetScout Systems, SoFi Bank, and Lazy Dog Restaurants. Formerly CFO of Wing, an Alphabet company, she led global finance and operations for its autonomous drone delivery service. Shannon has also held CFO roles at Reputation.com and Inside Source, and senior finance roles with Amgen and Cumulus Media. She started her career at KPMG and Cooley LLP. She is a 2025 NACD Directorship 100 honoree and one of Silicon Valley’s 100 Most Influential Women, with cybersecurity certifications from MIT, the AICPA, and NYU Law–Nasdaq. Shannon is also host of a new leadership podcast No Boxes: Just Verses, which ranks in the top 10% of all podcasts globally and top 40 in its category, and an award-winning film producer. She holds both a BS in Accounting and JD from the University of Virginia.

Lori Tauber Marcus (see her bio below) has lived a career many only dream about, 24 years rising through the ranks at PepsiCo during the height of the Cola Wars, followed by C-suite roles at The Children’s Place, Keurig Green Mountain, and Peloton. But what makes Lori remarkable isn’t just her résumé. It’s her candor, her humor, and her relentless commitment to helping leaders build workplaces where everyone can thrive. In our wide-ranging conversation, Lori shares stories from her early days growing up in New Jersey, the lessons she learned navigating high-performance corporate cultures, and why her mornings often start with a Peloton ride and a tube of M&Ms. She opens up about the moment she realized it was time to leave corporate life, the leap into her “portfolio career,” and the joy she found helping others through board work, executive coaching, and keynote speaking. We also dive into: Her decade-long board journey, including Fresh Del Monte Produce and 24 Hour Fitness The origin story of The Band of Sisters, a powerhouse group of former PepsiCo executives dismantling gender bias one story at a time Why language matters, and how subtle micro-moments shape culture more than we realize How she built a career on curiosity, grit, and paying attention to “signals from the universe” The surprising similarities across industries—from CPG to retail to tech Her belief that leadership is less about perfection and more about awareness, intention, and impact Lori brings the perfect blend of insight, experience, and straight talk. Whether she’s talking about the corporate tax, the evolution of DEI, or why she will always be a Springsteen fan, this episode is packed with wisdom and personality. If you’re looking for a masterclass in leadership with heart, humor, and honesty, you’ll love this conversation.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Lori: Lori Tauber Marcus is the kind of leader who’s seen it all from the C-suite to the boardroom, and everywhere in between. She’s currently serving on the boards of Fresh Del Monte Produce and 24 Hour Fitness, and she brings nearly 10 years of experience helping companies navigate major transitions, including CEO changes, mergers, and turnarounds. Before her board journey, Lori held senior executive roles at powerhouse brands like Peloton, Keurig Green Mountain, The Children’s Place, and PepsiCo (where she spent 24 years). She knows how to build brands, drive innovation, and lead with both head and heart. Lori is also a passionate advocate for women in leadership. She’s a co-founder of The Band of Sisters, a group of powerhouse women executives working to dismantle gender bias in the workplace. Together, they co-authored the book "You Should Smile More", which Lori speaks about on stages around the country. In addition to her board work and speaking, she coaches Fortune 500 executives through Crenshaw Associates and still finds time to stay active in organizations like C200, Women’s Forum of New York, and NACD. Lori is a proud Wharton grad and lifelong learner, always exploring new ways to build better businesses and stronger leaders.

Lindsay Howerton’s (see her bio below) leadership journey begins long before she coached executives, scaled companies, or became a sought-after fractional COO. It starts with a 10-year-old kid in rural Missouri waking up at 2:30 a.m., layering up against the winter cold, and heading out to tend hogs before school. That grit never left her...it just evolved. Today, Lindsay is a performance coach, operational strategist, and property investor who has helped more than 70 organizations across 35+ industries find clarity, build accountability, and scale with purpose. But her path to leadership is anything but traditional. In this conversation, Lindsay shares: Her farm-to-boardroom journey, including running a 20-sow operation before she could drive. How early hardship, a tough father, and a special-needs brother shaped her resilience and empathy. The surprising launchpad of her career - including Farm Aid, Willie Nelson phone calls, and learning to “sell” by watching strangers shop the meat case. Why Original Juan became her real-world MBA, giving her hands-on experience in sales, operations, and process improvement. Her signature 10-question assessment - including the now-famous “monkey bars question” and how it helps her decode people in minutes. Her belief that business is simple when you understand the skeleton beneath every organization. Honey Hill Property Investment, the company she built with her husband to revitalize workforce housing in rural Missouri and honor the legacy of her grandparents. And the personal mission that drives everything she does: to positively impact one million lives. Lindsay’s story is a masterclass in grit, clarity, and purpose, and a reminder that leadership isn’t about titles or pedigree. It’s about knowing who you are, doing the hard things, and lifting others along the way.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Lindsay: Lindsay Howerton is a performance coach, fractional COO and property investor with a track record of helping over 70 organizations across more than 35 industries clarify operations, scale sustainably and build resilient teams. With a no-nonsense leadership style and a deep commitment to purpose-driven growth, Lindsay brings operational clarity, team accountability and practical systems to businesses that are ready to level up.  She is the founder of a property investment company focused on revitalizing uninhabitable properties and increasing access to workforce housing, particularly in rural and underserved areas like Brookfield, Missouri. Through this work, she blends real estate strategy with social impact, transforming forgotten spaces into opportunity. Married for over two decades and a proud mother of two daughters, Lindsay’s personal values are to respect what you have, grow to your greatest potential and love people more than things. She has traveled extensively with her husband, coached hundreds toward self-discovery and is on a mission to change one million lives through her work.

In this November edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I trade year-end reflections, fresh goals, and a few laughs as we wrap up 2025 and look toward the year ahead. Marc kicks things off with a big reveal of his word for 2026 and shares how health, proactivity, and a soon-to-be scheduled executive physical have moved to the top of his priority list. We talk about the value of choosing a “word of the year,” why intentional planning should start long before December, and the role his long-time life coach has played in shaping his annual reset process. We also cover: The art of simplifying goals and actually sticking to them Why Marc’s assistant Amy might be the MVP of the year The magic of handwritten cards (and how Marc systemizes kindness with SendOutCards) Holiday plans, family photos, and the value of slowing down Books we’re reading from digital assets to leadership Searcy Financial’s upcoming 50th anniversary celebration And the impact of Giving Tuesday, including Marc’s work with Wabash Cannonball This episode is equal parts practical and warm, a blend of goal-setting, personal stories, and the reminder that connection, consistency, and gratitude matter more than ever this time of year. Pull up a chair, pour a glass of whatever feels right… it’s all part of the 5 o’clock philosophy.   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

Dr. Nicholas Comninellis (see his bio below) has lived a life most of us only read about. From treating patients in Shanghai’s charity hospital to serving in war-torn Angola, where soldiers once knocked on his door in the middle of the night, Nicholas has devoted his career to providing care where it’s needed most. Founder and President of the Institute for International Medicine (INMED), he has trained thousands of healthcare professionals to serve vulnerable populations around the world. But his story begins long before global health leadership shaped by summers spent on a tiny Greek island, a father who survived wartime hunger, and a childhood in Parkville, Missouri. In this conversation, we explore: How his multicultural upbringing set the stage for a life of service. What he learned practicing medicine in poverty-stricken communities in China and Angola. The moment a commander told him, “We’ve been watching you,” and how it reshaped his understanding of unseen impact. Why he founded INMED and how it has grown into a graduate-level institution preparing clinicians to serve the forgotten. His newest book, Five Bags of Gold, explores the deeper meaning behind investing time, talent, and resources in others. How classical guitar became his unlikely creative outlet. Dr. Comninellis brings humility, courage, and conviction to every part of his story. This episode is a powerful reminder that compassion in action, not comfort, is what changes the world.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Nicholas: Nicholas Comninellis, MD, MPH, is President and Professor at INMED, the Institute for International Medicine, and practices emergency medicine. He founded INMED in 2003 to advance global health education and service. Dr. Comninellis previously served for two years at Shanghai Charity Hospital, providing care to inner-city communities, and led a healthcare ministry in war-torn Angola for two years. He also taught family medicine and public health for six years at the University of Missouri-Kansas City (UMKC) School of Medicine while caring for patients at Kansas City’s public hospital. He graduated from the UMKC School of Medicine and Saint Louis University School of Public Health and was a family medicine resident at John Peter Smith Hospital. Dr. Comninellis also earned a diploma in tropical medicine from the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and became board-certified in both public health and family medicine. Among his authored books is Five Bags of Gold – a Modern Parable of Wealth, Responsibility, and Eternal Investment. Dr. Comninellis is a classical guitarist and faculty co-advisor for UMKC Cru. He was honored as the 2009 United Nations Association of the United States World Citizen and the 2015 University of Missouri-Kansas City Alumni of the Year.

Chandra Clark’s story (see her bio below) is one of courage, compassion, and transformation. From raising her three younger siblings as a child to becoming the inaugural President of the Corey C. Griffin Foundation, Chandra’s life is a testament to turning adversity into impact. In this conversation, she shares how her unconventional path from a childhood in Louisiana to leading major nonprofits across Kansas City and Boston shaped her purpose-driven approach to leadership. We talk about: How early responsibility and hardship fueled her desire to serve others. Her love for art, fashion, and creativity and how it shows up in her leadership style. What it means to lead with empathy while navigating rapid organizational growth. How trauma and healing intersect with career development and confidence. Why she believes self-worth and service are the foundation of success. Chandra’s journey reminds us that leadership isn’t about titles, it’s about impact, integrity, and using your story to help others rise.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Chandra: Chandra Clark is a nonprofit executive driven by purpose and mission. For over a decade, she has served in nonprofit leadership by developing innovative programs, initiatives, and collaborative opportunities in the community to support and advance the lives of underrepresented children, youth and women. She is honored to currently serve as the inaugural President of the Corey C. Griffin Foundation. Her previous roles include Executive Director of VHL Alliance, the inaugural Director of Community Outreach for Big Brothers Big Sisters Kansas City, and Founder of Be Loved, a lifestyle brand. As a celebrated speaker, mentor, and life coach, she has been honored to receive numerous awards and recognitions, including the Young Athena Leadership Award from the Kansas City Chamber, Rockhurst Faber Young Alum of the Year from Rockhurst University, Top Connector in Education and Entrepreneurship from the Kauffman Foundation, and Most Influential Women in Kansas City Business from the Kansas City Business Journal. Chandra holds a Master of Education degree from Rockhurst University, a Bachelor of Liberal Arts degree from the University of Missouri-Kansas City and is a graduate of the Central Exchange Emerging Leaders program. She currently serves on the board of The Boston Club, and Advisory Council for the Women’s Foundation of Boston. Her former board and civic engagement include serving as President of the Missouri Career Development Association, member of the Executive Women’s Leadership Council, member of the Junior League of Greater, and founding member of the Central Exchange Young Professionals Council.

Brett Carey (see his bio below) has built his life and leadership philosophy around three cornerstones: faith, family, and endurance. As Vice President of Human Resources at The University of Kansas Health System, Brett draws on lessons from his 25+ years at Hallmark Cards, his dedication to triathlon, and his belief that leadership is less about control and more about connection. In this conversation, Brett shares: How small-town values and faith laid the foundation for his leadership approach. What he learned from Hallmark about aligning people, purpose, and performance. How endurance sports have shaped his mindset for leading through uncertainty and change. The importance of simplifying complexity, whether managing teams or competing in a triathlon. Why trust, humility, and follow-through are the hallmarks of great leadership. We also discuss how he balances family, career, and competition, and why he believes that success on the course or in the boardroom comes down to perseverance and purpose.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Brett: Brett Carey serves as an executive leader in Human Resources, a loving leader in his faith and family, and practices personal leadership in his passion for triathlon. For the past 5 ½ years, he has served as the Vice President of Human Resources for The University of Kansas Health System. As a trusted advocate, Brett is a strategic HR leader with broad expertise simplifying complex situations through holistic thinking, ideation, and execution. Brett works with the Senior Executive Team as well as Physicians and all employees to ensure he is aligning HR strategies with the health system’s vision and mission. Throughout his career, he has been known for developing solutions to align business priorities while leading teams with collaboration and influencing with interpersonal and organizational savvy. Prior to the health system, Brett enjoyed 25+ years with Hallmark Cards, progressing from sales and customer development into and through operational and human resources leadership positions. Integral to his personal and professional ethos is the integration and intersection of competitive triathlon and testing the limits of physical and mental boundaries.