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Mile High FI Podcast
Author: Doug Cunnington & Carl Jensen
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Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Doug Cunnington and Carl Jensen talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
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Doug chats with Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind) about the relevance of The 4% Rule in modern retirement planning. They explore whether it remains a solid “north star” for those in the accumulation phase or if it has become an outdated guideline that potentially hinders retirees from living their best lives. Mark also shares his personal transition from a high-saver to a strategic retiree focused on decumulation & creating memory dividends.
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Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind
David Chilton, “The Wealthy Barber”
Paperback
William Bengen, “A Richer Retirement”
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Hardcover
Audiobook
Audio CD
Retirement and IRA Show
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Big ERN on MHFI episode 280
Aubrey Williams, “Everyone Adjusts! Use Historical Analysis Risk-Based Guardrails to Reach FI Sooner!”
ProjectionLab
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
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Doug and Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind) answer questions from the listener mailbag. They discuss how to prepare for retirement, building social connections beyond work, psychological shifts of leaving a career, strategies for “manufacturing” a retirement paycheck, how to navigate the changing landscape of car ownership (buying vs. leasing), and the mindset shift of decumulation & spending.
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Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind
Mark’s Money Mind Episode 063, “Taxes, Travel, and Market Turbulence”
CampFI
Mr. Money Mustache on MHFI episode 309
Kevin Sebesta on MHFI episode 302
Morgan Housel, “Psychology of Money”
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ChooseFI Ep 022, “The True Cost Of Car Ownership”
MHFI Facebook group
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
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Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
0:56 Recent travels
5:53 Question – Preparing to retire
11:13 Social connections, hobbies, & identity
18:50 Retirement paycheck strategy
23:35 Question – Leasing vs. buying cars
29:16 Longevity & when leasing makes sense
34:17 Question – Decumulation & spending
40:47 Calculating downsid...
Doug chats with his wife Elizabeth about her 2-year anniversary in early retirement. Elizabeth describes why she loves not working, challenges with balancing routine vs. flexibility, and how reduced stress has improved relationships and communication. Doug & Elizabeth also discuss budgeting with a financial advisor, differences in “fun fund” spending, the impact of market returns on retirement confidence, perceived social pressure within the FI community to retire, and not necessarily retiring “to something”.
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Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
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Links
Elizabeth on MHFI episode 281
Leckerlee Cookies
Earn & Invest, “What’s the Point of FIRE?”
The FI Collective
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
“Survive the 9 to 5” podcast
“The Doug Show” podcast
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
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Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
2:08 Leaving a full-time career
8:07 Part-time work experiment
18:36 Retirement surprises
23:03 Finding a routine
29:46 Relationship improvements
36:28 Pressure to retire
43:31 Spending & budgeting
50:30 Influence of the stock market
55:24 Retirement tips & readiness
1:00:05 Wh...
Doug and Kristen Knapp (FI Friends Travel) dive into a listener-submitted topic from Dell regarding the potential benefits of oversaving. Doug & Kristen discuss the pros & cons of oversaving, the necessity of having a plan for “retiring to something” after work, and explore the psychological shifts that occur when you no longer need a paycheck. They also tackle common traps in the FI community such as “One More Year Syndrome”, golden handcuffs, and identity issues tied to a career.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
FI Friends Travel
ChooseFI local groups
EconoMe Conference
CampFI
Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind
Kevin Sebesta on MHFI episode 302
Morgan Housel, “The Art of Spending Money”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
4:17 D...
Please support the show if you like it! I play highlights about Die With Zero, specifically about Time Bucketing.
You can donate via Buy Me a Coffee. You get extra content and know that you’re making the show possible.
Mile High FI is listed as one of the TOP Podcast on Careers in Apple Podcasts!
Spotify is 28% of the audience, so that’s grown in 2025 and higher than I said in this episode.
If you extrapolate the Spotify year end review data to the total downloads, here is what you get…
Mile High FI is a:
Top 5 podcast for about 5,000 people!
#1 podcast for about 740 people!
I don’t have ads anymore so I want to cover production costs. Most of the costs are related to software and tools and hosting. Many other podcasts have sucky ads every 15 minutes. I don’t want to do that.
Producer Chris volunteers to edit and produce the show. We’re not trying to get rich doing the show, but it takes a lot of time, effort, and planning.
You can also check out the affiliate offers here, which are products that I recommend. Mile High FI usually gets a small percentage, say 1% to 15%, depending on the arrangement. It helps, but direct donations are the best.
Doug chats with Pete Adeney (Mr. Money Mustache) about various fears that some people have about early retirement. They explore why some people may be reluctant to retire, despite being financially ready, and specifically how fear of boredom can hold people back. They discuss “One More Year Syndrome” and the irrational fear of running out of money despite what the math says.
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Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
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Links
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Pete on MHFI episode 308
Morgan Housel, “Is the F.I.R.E. Movement Dead?”
The Donegans
The FI Collective
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:51 One More Year Syndrome
5:50 Scared of boredom
10:18 Building social skills
17:22 Boring people are bored
22:03 FI Collective
25:51 Soundcheck – New house
Doug chats with Pete Adeney (Mr. Money Mustache) about evolving perspectives within the FIRE movement. Moving beyond external critiques, they dive into a confessional-style discussion about genuine problems within the community – from the pitfalls of ultra-frugality, over-saving, over-optimizing, and “One More Year Syndrome” to the identity crisis retirees face. They explore why FIRE isn’t a “gospel” but instead a set of ideas that should be modified in real-time based on what actually works for each individual.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
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Links
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Pete on MHFI episode 308
Jacob Lund Fisker/Early Retirement Extreme
Mad Fientist, “Learning How to Spend Money”
New York Times, “Freedom With a Side of Guilt: How Food Delivery Is Reshaping Mealtime”
The FI Collective
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:16 MMM persona & early FIRE ideas
8:50 Ultra-frugality
18:00 Over-saving & One More Year Syndrome
24:23 Over-optimizing in the FIRE community
29:30 DoorDash spectrum
34:24 Paying for convenience
42:21 Balancing the future & the present
48:09 MMM’s retirement spending strategies
53:49 Retiring to something meaningful
1:02:18 Soundcheck – Casa Bonita
Doug chats with Pete Adeney, Mr. Money Mustache, about whether the FIRE Movement is dead, in response to a variety of online commentary claiming this statement as fact. Doug & Pete review and critique multiple perspectives, including notable names like Dave Ramsey and Morgan Housel while also addressing misconceptions, highlighting the value of Financial Independence, and acknowledge the movement’s evolution.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
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Links
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Jared Dillian, “The FIRE Movement”
Jarrad Morrow, “The FIRE Movement Won’t Work Like It Used To (Here’s Why)”
Dave Ramsey, “Why the F.I.R.E. Movement Isn’t Sustainable”
Ramit Sethi, “The Problem with the “FIRE” Movement”
Mindy & Carl on Ramit Sethi’s “I Will Teach You To Be Rich”
Brian Farrell, “What Happened To The FIRE Movement?”
Morgan Housel, “Is the F.I.R.E. Movement Dead?”
The Knowledge Project podcast, “Morgan Housel: Wealth is What You Have Minus What You Want”
Gregory Galant, “Mark Cuban on the FIRE Movement: Financial Independence, Retire Early”
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
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Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
6:11...
Doug chats with Carl about finding purpose in life. They discuss the benefits of preparing for retirement by building a rich life outside of work, taking sabbaticals, and conducting small experiments to explore new hobbies and interests. They also talk about the importance of community, the idea of redefining success, achieving flow state, and finding meaningful ways to spend one’s time while maintaining good mental and physical health.
Note: This is a rebroadcast of MHFI episode 268
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Carl Jensen/1500 Days to Freedom
1500 Days to Freedom, “Introducing The FI Collective”
“How to Money” episode 1091, “The Art of Spending w/ Morgan Housel”
CampFI
EconoMe Conference
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
5:34 What FIRE life looks like
13:35 Is retirement overrated?
22:09 Relationship with work
28:24 Seeking validation
34:58 Challenging the corporate ladder
40:31 Setting up for a successful retirement
46:57 Redefining success & finding flow
54:41 Leveraging community & taking action
Doug and Producer Chris chat about a very controversial topic in the FIRE community – working with a financial advisor. They explore the reasons someone might or might not want to work with an advisor, discussing common pitfalls like high fees & hidden motivations, while emphasizing the benefits of getting an outside perspective & professional guidance, especially in areas like decumulation and complex financial situations.
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Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Jeremy Schneider on MHFI episode 122
Jeremy Schneider on MHFI episode 243
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
4:35 Insurance agents
9:24 The problem with fees
15:21 The downsides of DIY
19:57 Identifying blindspots
27:58 Dealing with complex situations
33:20 Actually working with an advisor
38:23 The importance of professional help
43:20 Mindset & spending in retirement
50:03 Soundcheck – Kitchen gadgets
Doug chats with Pete Adeney (Mr. Money Mustache) and Rusty about prominent themes related to Financial Independence found in popular movies & TV shows. They delve into iconic films such as “The Matrix”, “Office Space”, and “Fight Club”, extracting key FIRE principles such as anti-consumerism, the quest for personal freedom, and breaking away from traditional corporate paths.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Email Rusty: rustyfromco@gmail.com
The New York Times, “How to Retire in Your 30s With $1 Million in the Bank”
BiggerPockets Money, “Is the FIRE Movement Dead?”
Dave Ramsey, “Why the F.I.R.E. Movement Isn’t Sustainable”
Ramit Sethi, “The Problem with the “FIRE” Movement”
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
3:24 The Matrix
10:44 Office Space
17:50 Parenting & keeping busy in retirement
26:58 Corporate
31:32 Fight Club
36:52 Reacher
42:21 Local Hero
48:33 FIRE backlash (teaser)
54:39 Soundcheck – Early retirement
Doug chats with Rusty about one of their mutual passions: food and cooking. They each explore their food “origin stories”, discussing childhood memories and the evolution of their culinary interests. They touch on how food plays a significant role in their lives and walk through various food-related topics including favorite recipes, cooking styles, and essential kitchen equipment. They also discuss how cooking can be a meditative process, how food can help build community, and how it all relates to FI.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Email Rusty: rustyfromco@gmail.com
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
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Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:31 Gourmet sandwiches & chili
9:13 Food origin stories
18:59 Cost of food vs. FI
25:07 Leftovers & meal-planning
31:03 Community & mindfulness in cooking
41:24 Recipes & exploring YouTube for inspiration
50:28 Essential kitchen equipment
57:36 Experimenting with eating out
1:06:12 Soundcheck – DIY guitar projects
Doug chats with Carl & Rusty about each of their adventures with housing projects and renovations. Carl details his current project of tearing down a “Frank Lloyd Wrong house” and building one from scratch while sharing insights into his motivations, costs, and specific financing strategies. Rusty shares his experience renovating two homes and the strategic use of a line of credit. Additionally, they delve into considerations of downsizing and the potential of owning second homes.
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Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Email Rusty: rustyfromco@gmail.com
Carl Jensen/1500 Days to Freedom
Leif Dahleen (Physician on FIRE) on MHFI episode 112
Buy, Borrow, Die discussion on MHFI episode 252
Mindy & Carl on Ramit Sethi’s “I Will Teach You To Be Rich”
Philosophy & ethics discussion on MHFI episode 298
MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
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Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:31 Carl’s home building journey
8:10 Unique systems & building challenges
15:41 Financing with the Buy, Borrow, Die Strategy
24:09 Rusty’s renovation stories
30:25 Balancing joy & investment
38:58 Downsizing dilemmas
44:03 Different places in different stages of life
51:46 Second homes
59:24 Soundcheck – Taco Bell
Doug chats with Kevin Sebesta, a self-proclaimed “high-achieving slacker”, about lessons learned from 12 years of early retirement. Kevin discusses the importance of building a supportive community, how living child-free influences lifestyle choices, the concept of a “Fun Bucket” for guilt-free spending, the balance between optimizing finances & enjoying life, and how curiosity drives his fulfilling retirement.
Do you like the podcast and want to support the show? Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/
Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses? Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you!
Guitar Accessories
Hiking & Outdoor
Essentials for Sleep
Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers? Of course you do! We ALL do! Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington
Links
Connect with Kevin:
Email: kevin@rockretirementclub.com
Blog: http://www.lifeinfire.com/
FI Friends Travel
Rock Retirement Club
Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind
Amy Minkley/FI Freedom Retreats
CampFI
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Retirement and IRA Show
Jordan Grumet, “The Purpose Code”
Kindle
Hardcover
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Jordan Grumet on MHFI episode 249
Cody Garrett & Sean Mullaney, “Tax Planning To and Through Early Retirement”
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Doug chats with Rebecca Herbst about her post-FI life including challenges of finding community & the right place to live, experimenting with increased spending, the mental shift from a scarcity to an abundance mindset, and the complexities of personal identity after leaving a career. Rebecca also discusses her work with Yield and Spread, a nonprofit promoting generosity in the personal finance community including a call to action and The FI-lanthropy Pledge.
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Links
Yield & Spread
ChooseFI Episode 483, “Effective Giving Strategies for FI”
The Fioneers, “Financial Independence Milestones that Actually Motivate”
Scott Rieckens, “Playing With FIRE”
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The Center For Midlife Success (formerly Joy Collective), “Annual Clarity Retreat”
Cal Newport, “Digital Minimalism”
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0:00 Introduction
3:10 Search for a post-FI home
11:23 Experimenting with increased spending
21:04 The role of financial advisors
29:21 Rebecca’s path...
Doug chats with Kristen Knapp (FI Friends Travel) about the challenges of unwinding deep-seated frugal habits and learning to spend at the “right level” after achieving FI. Inspired by a recent blog post from the Mad Fientist, Doug & Kristen explore the nuances of maintaining a balance between saving & spending and discuss why many people struggle to actually spend money once they hit their financial goals. They also emphasize the importance of spending on what brings joy and the necessary shift in mindset that’s required to enjoy financial freedom without guilt.
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Links
FI Friends Travel
Mad Fientist, “Learning How to Spend Money”
Mad Fientist on MHFI episode 048
CampFI
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
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0:00 Introduction
2:19 Frugality
9:02 Spending after FI
16:43 Reframing expenses
24:41 FI Friends Travel
31:44 Award travel using points
37:05 The Fun Fund
44:18 Balancing present & future spending
51:25 Shared experiences
55:39 Soundcheck – Winter weather
Doug chats with Nik Johnson (Everyday Money Heroes) about his journey to Financial Independence and retiring early. He discusses an early passion for personal finance, how he discovered FI during the pandemic, the value of being part of a community, and the importance of a supportive spouse. Nik describes his post-retirement life emphasizing a commitment to community service & financial literacy. And excitingly he also describes what it’s like to be featured on national television (CBS Sunday Morning).
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Links
Everyday Money Heroes
Website
YouTube
CBS News Sunday Morning, “How the FIRE movement is inspiring early retirees”
CampFI
CampFI YouTube
ChooseFI local groups
Our Rich Journey
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
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MHFI Facebook group
Doug’s site
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0:00 Introduction
0:57 CBS Sunday Morning experience
7:48 Discovering FI & building community
15:15 Career & financial journey
23:52 CENT & achieving FI
29:58 Quit...
Doug chats with Rusty about an intense neighborhood dispute involving prairie dog conservation, highlighting how ethical frameworks and philosophical approaches can guide community decisions. Doug shares his experience working through this issue while emphasizing the importance of patience, humor, and effective communication in resolving disputes. Rusty provides additional philosophical and ethical considerations while touching upon related communication strategies & improved community engagement.
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Amy Karofsky, “Philosophy Through Film”
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Michael Schur, “How to be Perfect”
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Oliver Burkeman, “Four Thousand Weeks”
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Oliver Burkeman, “The Antidote”
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Lucius Annaeus Seneca, “On the Shortness of Life”
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Marcus Aurelius, “Meditations”
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Aristotle “The Nicomachean Ethics”
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Mile High FI stats and a correction:
Spotify is 28% of the audience, so that’s grown in 2025 and higher than I said in this episode.
If you extrapolate the Spotify year end review data to the total downloads, here is what you get…
Mile High FI is a:
Top 5 podcast for about 5,000 people!
#1 podcast for about 740 people!
I don’t have ads anymore so I want to cover production costs. Most of the costs are related to software and tools and hosting. Many other podcasts have sucky ads every 15 minutes. I don’t want to do that.
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